Talk:Copycat (Billie Eilish song)

Latest comment: 4 years ago by YoungForever in topic Requested move 2 July 2020

GA Review

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Reviewer: LOVI33 (talk · contribs) 00:31, 25 June 2020 (UTC)Reply

Hey DarklyShadows, I'll start my review now. LOVI33 00:31, 25 June 2020 (UTC)Reply

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Criteria: 1a. prose ( ) 1b. MoS ( ) 2a. ref layout ( ) 2b. cites WP:RS ( ) 2c. no WP:OR ( ) 2d. no WP:CV ( )
3a. broadness ( ) 3b. focus ( ) 4. neutral ( ) 5. stable ( ) 6a. free or tagged images ( ) 6b. pics relevant ( )
Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked   are unassessed

Infobox and lead

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  • Cover art needs alt text
  • Remove wikilink to Billie Eilish under songwriters WP:OVERLINK
    • You haven't addressed this
  • NEW: the a in 'audio' needs to capitalized
  • MOS:CAPS under audio video
  • Wikilink EP to extended play
  • "Don't Smile at Me" → "Don't Smile at Me (2017)"
  • "Eilish and her brother Finneas O'Connell co-wrote "Copycat"" → "Eilish and her brother, Finneas O'Connell, co-wrote the song"
  • "with the latter producing it solely" → "with the later solely handling the production"
  • "Musically an electropop and electronic track, with hip hop-influenced instrumentation" → "Musically an electropop and electronic track with a hip hop-influenced instrumentation"
  • wikilink Billboard to Billboard (magazine)
  • "Commercially, the song" → "Commercially, "Copycat""
  • "The song has been awarded several certifications" → "It has also received several certifications"
  • "The Sofi Tukker remix was officially released on January 12, 2018" → "A Sofi Tukker remix was released on January 12, 2018"

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Background and composition

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  • Release date here doesn't match release date in infobox
  • Giving a release source to the EP on iTunes isn't really a good source unless it is archived. Replace with this.
    • You haven't done this.
  • "by the singer and her brother Finneas O'Connell, the latter of which solely produced it" → "by the singer Finneas O'Connell, her brother and the track's sole producer"
  • "the studio personnel John Greenham and Rob Kinelski" → "the studio personnel, John Greenham, and Rob Kinelski"
  • "A remix by Sofi Tukker was officially released on January 12, 2018" → "A remix by Sofi Tukker was released on January 12, 2018"
  • Wikilink Genius to Genius (website)
    • You haven't adressed this.

user:LOVI33 I now put a wikilink to it.

  • ""Copycat" is moderately fast at 64 beats per minute (BPM)" → "It has a moderate tempo of 64 beats per minute", with target, moderate per source
  • "a minimalist production consisting of bass guitar and piano" → "a minimalist production consisting of a bass guitar and piano"
  • "Eilish states that" → "Eilish stated that"
  • "Matt Rucker of Ones to Watch's has compared Eilish's vocal's in the song to Lorde" → "Matt Rucker of Ones to Watch compared Eilish's vocals in the song to that of Lorde"

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Reception

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  • "Niall Byrne ofThe Irish Times described" → "Niall Byrne of The Irish Times described"
  • "did not enter the Billboard Hot 100, it peaked at number 12 on the" → "did not enter the Billboard Hot 100, however, it peaked at number 12 on the"
  • Last sentence is too similar to that of the intro, maybe remove the "most notably" and comment on it's other certifications

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Live performances

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  • Move citations 21 and 22 to end of sentence
  • Move citation 24 to end of sentence
    • You haven't addressed these.

  Done

Personnel

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"Credits adapted from the album's liner notes" → "Credits adapted from the liner notes of Don't Smile at Me", with target

  Done

Charts

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  • MOS:TABLECAPTION. maybe, Chart performance for "Copycat"
    • MOS:TABLECAPTION is a caption on the table, not the subtitle


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Certifications

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  • Again, MOS:TABLECAPTION. Maybe, "Certifications for "Copycat""
    • MOS:TABLECAPTION is a caption on the table, not the subtitle.

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References

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  • Make sure that all of these archived by using the tool
  • Copyvio score looks good at 21.3%
  • ref 3, change Spotify to publisher and wikilink
    • NEW: remove Spotify from title so it's just "COPYCAT (Sofi Tukker Remix) by Billie Eilish"
  • ref 4, wikilink Genius to Genius (website) and MOS:QWQ issues
  • NEW: ref 5, wikilink Billboard
  • ref 6, MOS:QWQ issues
  • ref 7, remove wikilink to Billboard
    • Still haven't addressed this.
  • ref 8, MOS:QWQ issues
  • ref 10, MOS:QWQ issues
  • ref 24, MOS:QWQ issues
  • ref 25, MOS:QWQ issues

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Final comments and verdict

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LOVI33 All of the issues should be fixed! Let me know if anything else needs to be fixed. DarklyShadows (talk) 03:13, 25 June 2020 (UTC)Reply

    • DarklyShadows, you say you've addressed all my comments but you haven't. I have added a few new ones above and commented on the ones you haven't addressed. If you do not think those edits will be good for the article, please respond why you are not doing them. Thanks. LOVI33 12:42, 25 June 2020 (UTC)Reply

Sources

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user:LOVI33 I have removed both the sources. DarklyShadows (talk) 12:32, 25 June 2020 (UTC)Reply

user:LOVI33: I have removed ones to watch and medium and fixed the other issues.

Requested move 2 July 2020

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The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Consensus to not move. (non-admin closure)YoungForever(talk) 22:58, 9 July 2020 (UTC)Reply



Copycat (Billie Eilish song)Copycat (song) – Other songs had little-to-no notability before the Billie Eilish song came out. DarklyShadows (talk) 22:37, 2 July 2020 (UTC)Reply

It should only be in extraordinary circumstances. This song is far from reaching Thriller (album) status. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 05:58, 3 July 2020 (UTC)Reply
That's a matter of opinion, of course, but with 96% of pageviews, I think it does reach that status. Like Thriller, it even gets more views than the article at the basic title Copycat. - Station1 (talk) 06:18, 3 July 2020 (UTC)Reply
Station1, you have consistently agitated against title policy for several years. At some point it becomes disruptive. In ictu oculi (talk) 10:16, 3 July 2020 (UTC)Reply
Just for the record, I favor current title policy. - Station1 (talk) 20:08, 3 July 2020 (UTC)Reply
Compare Hurricane (song). The Dylan song is better known than the others (and indeed better known than some of the other recording artists), but it isn't WP:PTOPIC. Narky Blert (talk) 13:15, 6 July 2020 (UTC)Reply
The Dylan song was at Hurricane (song) until an unnecessary and undiscussed move back in 2013. It should be the primary topic. And that's despite 17 other songs with WP articles (as opposed to only 2 in this case) and it getting around 70% of the pageviews (as opposed to 96% in this case). Station1 (talk) 18:28, 6 July 2020 (UTC)Reply
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.