Talk:Carnac stones

Sources

"I would like to hear from people whether they consider this level of footnoting excessive" [1] No. Global spread of H5N1 has 125 sources cited. Sources good. Nonsourced content bad. But if you are worried about appearances you can put multiple sources in one single footnote at the end of a paragraph or section. (WAS 4.250) 4.250.177.133 14:06, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

excessive in some places and absent in others. For example, I'd like to see even one footnote documenting that Egyptian royals were buried inside pyramids ( they were buried in square tombs in front of pyramids; perhaps there are one or two pyramid burials but I can find not a single academic source for that) 69.235.15.206 (talk) 18:17, 9 March 2013 (UTC)

Aerial Photos

Some of the sections are hard to understand without aerial photos. Can some be had via a free source, say, a government? Anybody have a small plane? —ScouterSig 18:09, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

I've done my best - Added three photos from a recent visit. Marek.69 ^talk 04:23, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

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Map needed

This article needs an overview map/diagram showing the big picture arrangement. -69.87.200.153 02:04, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

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• The article contains interesting images that help with the understanding of the topic--however, as noted above it could benefit from a map/aerial photo.
• I feel like the editing/style could be worked on a little--some of the subheading are only one/two sentences long and give the article a "cluttered" effect.
• There is still some unreferenced info, for example in the "Dolmen" section: "these dolmens are generally considered to have been tombs, constructed with several large stones supporting a "capstone", then buried under a mound of earth."

In general though, the article seems informative and was interesting to me. Good work. Lazulilasher (talk) 18:22, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

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The meaning of the word Carnac

Hi my surname is CARNOCHAN,im decended from the village of CARNOCH in Glencoe Scotland CARNOCH is gaelic for stony place,could ther be a connection??? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.115.230.32 (talk) 11:34, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

Carnac stones explanation

Hi, there is a new and compelling explanation of the Carnac alignments in a recent book called BEFORE THE DELUSION by Wm Gleeson. The book is presented as a historical novel but it contains a lot of 'information' impressively researched and documented. I don't know if you could call the proposal 'verifiable' but it is well documented and certainly worth considering Regards, Ross — Preceding unsigned comment added by RossMelb (talk • contribs) 05:12, 11 November 2012 (UTC)

map

A map over the localisation in France would be good. Adville (talk) 05:56, 22 October 2013 (UTC)

Other possible interpretation

Is it possible the Carnac stone algnments have to do with wildfire prevention? I have made a similar hypothesis on the Stonehenge Cursus, the Dorset Cursus and the like (see the talk page in the articles on the Stonehenge and the Dorset Cursus). As far as I know there were no ditches and banks in the Carnac alignments. Did the stone rows fulfill to a certain degree a similar function?

Have these hypothetical firebreaks in Carnac been gradually widened so to become more and more secure?

Are the Petit-Ménec alignments revealing in this respect?

VandenheedeJanGJ (talk) 15:27, 7 November 2013 (UTC) Docteur en Arts et Sciences de l'Art (Université de Paris I - Panthéon - Sorbonne)

The exceptional height of several stones in the Kerzerho alignment ("Géants de Kerzerho") do certainly not invalidate the hypothesis of a firebreak.

Maybe stone circles were intended, a.o., as meeting points when wildfires occurred. The distance for "débroussaillement" in France is nowadays 50 meters. This seems frequently about half of the width of these (hypothetical) firebreaks of the Carnac alignments, the Dorset Cursus, the Stonehenge Cursus and the like! This suggests that people could possibly escape via those firebreaks, probably the most important thing when such a wildfire occured.

It is maybe not immediately clear for many of us what a wildfire meant at that time. People could probably not stop it in most cases. Even now wildfires are frequently very difficult to halt. The people of that time could loose not only a complete harvest, their houses but also their lives, children, etc.. Animals fled or died to a certain extent, so there was less to hunt for after a wildfire. Fruits were burnt, etc. Probably all this could imply moving, with all consequences this brought with it in a society that was in essence not any more nomadic.

A big wildfire was maybe the type of disaster that occurred most often and which they feared most. By consequence, it seems normal they spend quite some effort, time and land to cope with wildfires.

VandenheedeJanGJ (talk) 16:15, 7 November 2013 (UTC) Docteur en Arts et Sciences de l'Art (Université de Paris I - Panthéon - Sorbonne)

History?

A history section would be nice, detailing mention of the stones in literature, something akin to what is given in the Uffington White Horse article. Rwflammang (talk) 22:57, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

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==WikiProject France Assessment== WikiProject France Assessment This article was listed on WikiProject France under articles needing assessment. This article has been rated B-class because: It contains a sufficient amount of information for the reader to feel satisfied, further it is well sourced/cited. The article contains interesting images that help with the understanding of the topic--however, as noted above it could benefit from a map/aerial photo. I feel like the editing/style could be worked on a little--some of the subheading are only one/two sentences long and give the article a "cluttered" effect. There is still some unreferenced info, for example in the "Dolmen" section: "these dolmens are generally considered to have been tombs, constructed with several large stones supporting a "capstone", then buried under a mound of earth." In general though, the article seems informative and was interesting to me. Good work. Lazulilasher (talk) 18:23, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

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Name in French

I'm just wondering, why is there a translation of the name in Breton, but not in French? 2A01:CB08:9026:E800:580F:6636:42BD:B4B4 (talk) 21:36, 18 June 2022 (UTC)

June 2023 additions

@Alves Stargazer: am I missing something in the sources? I can't find where the second half of your recently-added paragraph (beginning "The town's mayor, Olivier Lepick...") is supported by either the Le Monde or the Ouest-France article? I would consider at least the information about Lepick and the Olbetz quote to be covered by WP:MINREF, and thus cannot stay in the article without suitable referencing... Caeciliusinhorto-public (talk) 08:54, 9 June 2023 (UTC)

I noticed that a line was not covered anymore (I had to remove a link because it was from a blacklisted site), so I added references. I can confirm that everything written in the paragraph is reported by the linked newspapers. Alves Stargazer (talk) 21:30, 10 June 2023 (UTC)