Talk:COVID-19 pandemic in South America

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Falklands issue

I don´t care about the article of the British Overseas Territory, it is another topic at all and I'm not worried at the moment of it because it is the name of the british administration unit as for us the Malvinas are under the Department of the Islands of the South Atlantic wich flag is the one you delated. I remember you that in 1965 94 countries voted positive to recognize a sovereignty dispute. This means that from a neutral point of view like the Wikipedia´s one the Malvinas/Falklands are a part of the UK in the same way they are a part of Argentina. So there are two options, we add the Malvinas infected to the column of Argentina or we add the Tierra del Fuego flag in equality to the overseas territory´s one. You decide KittenKlub --Facu Guti (talk) 20:38, 12 April 2020 (UTC)

The flag of a country or a territory is decided by who rules it. In this case the Falklands is a British territory and uses the flag of the British territory. Nowhere you can see two flags for disputed areas. KittenKlub (talk) 20:42, 12 April 2020 (UTC)

"Corona in South America" listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Corona in South America. Please participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so. -- Tavix ^(talk) 13:28, 24 April 2020 (UTC)

It's understandable the most affected countries are on the Pacific coast of South America (Ecuador, Peru and Chile) when you go by per capita. Chile uses a different standard of measuring a confirmed case by including asymptomatic. Just like Spain uses serological to determine an undetected case, and Sweden believes over a million were already infected without being tested. I would suggest to include the reason why Ecuador, Peru and Chile had more cases than usual in South and Latin Americas on the article if it's verified. 2605:E000:100D:C571:7D82:A683:E434:DB3D (talk) 03:43, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

We need information on why some countries Bolivia, Paraguay, Argentina and Uruguay are less affected, they happen to border Brazil who has the most Covid-19 cases in the continent as of May 14, 2020. Argentina and Uruguay have close connections to Europe (esp Spain and Italy, these are the most affected European nations in the pandemic), but Argentina locked down quickly and Uruguay has a good health care system as the continent's most developed country. And Bolivia and Paraguay are landlocked countries, but they seem to handled the spread of Covid-19 easier, probably for being more rural and having less population density than many coastal Brazilian states. 2605:E000:100D:C571:6DCE:ABEA:BC50:DF93 (talk) 06:37, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

Brazil

As of May 31st, many scientists believe 500k-1.5 million Brazilians are infected and there were between 50-280k deaths from COVID-19. The rate of viral transmission is very high in Brazil, esp. in the southern states despite the lockdowns and in equatorial regions. Official sources on the article are more reliable than guessing estimates. 2605:E000:100D:C571:6DCE:ABEA:BC50:DF93 (talk) 04:41, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

chart of cases per 100 000 population in South America

User:Weyyabiya keeps removing a chart of COVID-19 infections because it does include the trend of the USA as a reference. The US line is clearly different to South American lines, since it is dashed instead of continous. USA have the highest case numbers within the world. Thus I feel it is appropriate to compare South American numbers with this both global and American (continent) reference. I'd like to ask for a vote whether to include this reference or why to exclude it. --Traut (talk) 09:13, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

COVID-19 cases per 100 000 population in South America

Why not make a data chart with South American countries only considering that its posted to an article for South American countries? It's the same logic why data from Mexico, Panama & Dominican Republic should not be included because none of them are South American.

Why not posted North American data in the North America article? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic_in_North_America ? It would be more relevant if it is posted there. Weyyabiya (talk) 09:21, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

Hi guys. Let's try and settle this once and for all. So, there seems to be a disagreement with Traut's chart containing data from non-South American countries. I've looked through the "View history" section as well as the conversations between you two and it appears that Traut's data initially included data from North America as well as South America and then it just continued. I have to admit that it seems odd to list USA on a chart for South American data when the USA is on a different continent especially when countries such as Qatar, San Marino & the Vatican City have higher cases per 100,000 than the USA does according to https://i.ibb.co/Pw9Snsy/100-PCChart.jpg which is from https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ and Traut's chart does not include Qatar, San Marino & Vatican City. Russia has 423,741 cases but isn't included on the chart. China has 83,022 cases and is where COVID-19 was first identified but isn't included on the chart.

Here's my suggestion Traut makes a data chart featuring COVID-19 information from South America for this South America article & Weyyabiya stops deleting those charts.

If not, let's keep discussing this. Nuzaliwaj (talk) 10:34, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

It's news to me that that South America would be on a different continent than North America - although both parts are much bigger than Europe. So I stand corrected, from the South American point of view there are more than the traditional five continents. Continent#Number. Concerning countries with a much higher head count: Yes, Vatican city could be considered as leading here. But please do get serious and do not overestimate dwarf states. A reasonable base for comparisons are states with at least 1 Mio, better 10 Mio people. Would it be that useful to include Suriname, which has 2 cases per 100 000, compared to Chile, which had an increase of 25 between two days!? --Traut (talk) 10:55, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

What can be seen from such a chart: 0.5 Mio cases in Brazil are the second highest world wide, after USA with 1.8 mio. But as soon as you do compare those countries by population, the situation in Chile and Peru appears to be much, much worse than the (official) cases in Brazil. --Traut (talk) 10:55, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

Then feel free to include data from Brazil, Chile, Peru as well as Argentina, Bolivia, Colombia, Ecuador, Falkland Islands, French Guiana, Guyana, Paraguay, Suriname, Uruguay and Venezuela because all of them are in South America. South America is one continent & North America is one continent. This is also about South America not the Americas.

There is a difference between South America and North America. This article covers the pandemic in South America NOT North America. This article is not an international comparison but a specific article dedicated to to the COVID-19 pandemic in South America not North America or the Americas.

South America ≠ North America and, therefore, no North American data should be covered in an article discussing the pandemic in South America. This is not an international COVID-19 pandemic data article but a South American COVID-19 pandemic data article. Weyyabiya (talk) 12:31, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

From today on Peru has more cases/100k than USA --Traut (talk) 10:05, 5 June 2020 (UTC)

Brazil claims that no more case numbers will be published - so the question is, whether and which numbers to use for the future. --Traut (talk) 09:20, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

Chile has 1% of their population infected in some point in the 3 month pandemic they had, close to the percentages of Spain, Italy and Qatar. To the north of Chile is Peru which was also highly infected but has twice the population of Chile. And Brazil now has more deaths than Britain, now Brazil has the second highest COVID death toll after the USA. 2605:E000:100D:C571:4C1D:EB7D:B365:D7B4 (talk) 00:47, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

So you won't like this this image either, because it does not show SA only. However, you may find out, that especially countries from America do have the most significant increase not only in infections, but also in death numbers. --Traut (talk) 08:49, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

which countries do show the highest increase in death numbers

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