Talk:Blue & Lonesome (Rolling Stones album)

Duplicate article

This page is duplicated by Blue & Lonesome (The Rolling Stones album). On the other talk page, a user points out there is more than one album named Blue and Lonesome Jjwyatt (talk) 20:30, 9 October 2016 (UTC)

Moving article to Blue & Lonesome (The Rolling Stones album)

The article for the Rolling Stones newest album was created twice, once as Blue and Lonesome (album) on 6 October at 0600, and again as Blue & Lonesome (The Rolling Stones album) on 6 October at 0607. It was mentioned by Jjwyatt on 8 October on the talk page of the other article and at 9 October on this talk page that there was a duplicate, and that there was another album named Blue & Lonesome, a 1964 album by George Jones. Then without a discussion, Igordebraga merged the two articles to Blue and Lonesome (album) on 9 October. I think a mistake was made, and propose moving the album back to article title Blue & Lonesome (The Rolling Stones album). First, some references either way. In support of the title Blue & Lonesome:

Blue & Lonesome : The Rolling Stones (The Rolling Stones website)

Rolling Stones Announce New Blues Cover Album 'Blue & Lonesome' (Rolling Stone Magazine)

The Rolling Stones announce new album, Blue & Lonesome (Entertainment Weekly)

And in support of Blue and Lonesome:

The Rolling Stones are back with Blue and Lonesome, their first album in 11 years (Consequence of Sound)

The Rolling Stones' Blue and Lonesome: the classic songs they're covering (The Guardian)

Therefore, there are arguments either way, but I find the Rolling Stones website to be the most compelling. Because the redirect page Blue & Lonesome (The Rolling Stones album) has three days of history, I don't think I can just move the article over without the help of an administrator. The administrators make it easy with a request if no one objects to the move, so I am posting this talk page and letting it sit until 21 October before making a request to see if there is any discussion or any objections. If there are objections, I hope to convince the users otherwise, but for all I know, in a civilized discourse, I will be convinced to leave the article mostly alone.

However, the other reason I want to move the article is that there are two albums labeled Blue & Lonesome/Blue and Lonesome, so to avoid confusion, one should say either Blue and Lonesome (The Rolling Stones album), or Blue & Lonesome (The Rolling Stones album), while the other should be changed to Blue & Lonesome (George Jones album), as one of the goals of Wikipedia is to make it easier to search for articles, not more difficult.

Therefore, I wish to throw out this request. Should this article be moved over to the current redirect page Blue & Lonesome (The Rolling Stones album), or moved to Blue and Lonesome (The Rolling Stones album)? Mburrell (talk) 04:35, 13 October 2016 (UTC)

Comment:

The official album name is: 'Blue & Lonesome':

The Rolling Stones Official Website

Universal Music Japan

iTunes

Amazon

Google Play

Rolling Stone Magazine

Therefore the title should be: Blue & Lonesome (The Rolling Stones album) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.45.37.162 (talk) 09:10, 13 October 2016 (UTC)

I am strongly in favour of Blue & Lonesome (The Rolling Stones album) as this page's address. Not only was it the name of the page I created, but also it is what it says on the album artwork and official material. Therefore I definitely support Mburrell's suggestion.Smintili (talk) 12:06, 14 October 2016 (UTC)

As promised, I tried to move the article to Blue & Lonesome (The Rolling Stones album) today, but as expected Wikipedia software would not allow it because of the existing article which is now the re-direct page. Therefore, I have posted this on Wikipedia:Requested moves/Technical requests as an uncontroversial move, due to the discussion on this talk page. Ideally, an administrator should either move the article in the next few days, or maybe post further comments on the talk page to ensure the move is not controversial. Mburrell (talk) 18:16, 21 October 2016 (UTC)

Reference to Further Material

I found an interesting reference in the standard booklet for Blue and Lonesome which implied the Stones are working on a new album of original material. The quote is:

"This was not a record the band had planned on making. According to [Don] Was, "We were recording some new songs and we just hit a wall on this one particular track. We needed to 'cleanse the palate' and the ginger for the palate came about when Keith said, 'Let's play "Blue and Lonesome".'"

The "new songs" could be demos, but I wouldn't expect you would need a producer and would "hit a wall" when recording a demo. At any rate I thought this may be useful information for the Background section of the page.

--Fatal97 (talk) 19:35, 9 December 2016 (UTC)

Move discussion in progress

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This issue was resolved in September 2019 by moving page Blue & Lonesome (The Rolling Stones album) to Blue & Lonesome (Rolling Stones album). — CuriousEric 15:07, 7 October 2021 (UTC)

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As a compilation album

What makes Blue & Lonesome a studio album and not a compilation album? If it is a collection of just covers and not original songs, shouldn't it be listed as a compilation album? 24.127.236.115 (talk) 22:46, 17 December 2019 (UTC)