Talk:Benedict Joseph Labre

Latest comment: 11 years ago by Daniel the Monk in topic The question of insanity

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Icon edit

Why does the icon have him dressed in a leather jacket and holding handbags? Clinkophonist 21:39, 27 May 2006 (UTC)Reply

He did come from a well-to-do family. These may have been gifts. The handbags are more like travelling bags. 27.110.193.72 (talk) 08:44, 30 June 2012 (UTC)Reply

Attributes edit

Where are the attributes documented?--evrik 00:43, 18 June 2006 (UTC)Reply

No clue. I didn't put them in there and don't like infoboxes. I only worked up the hagiography, though, and don't believe in listing associations, patronages, etc. To me, those things cross the line from information about the saint to information about an active cultus. Unless they have been historically important (and Labre's dates mean that they pretty much can't have been (cf. someone like Roch who was invoked during the Black death)), I don't see much reason for them. Geogre 03:21, 18 June 2006 (UTC)Reply

The question of insanity edit

He is a patron of the insane, as someone added in a template, but the question is whether or not we should indicate why. The hagiographies I drew upon for writing this danced around the issue. Anyone object to the change I'm going to make, which is to the sentence "unsuitable for communal life." I'm planning on adding, "as the religious houses judged him as mentally ill." Geogre 12:55, 11 February 2007 (UTC)Reply

No, I wouldn't object. Quite a few of the most popular Roman Catholic "saints" from after the Great Schism might today be classified are mentally ill or even mentally retarded if they were still alive. Catherine of Siena was almost certainly an anorexic, and several such as Francis of Assisi and Theresa of Avila might actually be dignosed mental patients were they not deceased. --71.240.139.254 (talk) 20:16, 2 October 2011 (UTC)Reply

To Geogre. What documentation from these religious houses that "judged him as mentally ill" can you reference? I am looking for a saint whose mental illness is a documented fact. 27.110.193.72 (talk) 08:54, 30 June 2012 (UTC)Reply

Look at the book noted below, in the section on the site of his death, which gives as reference a book by a Franciscan priest, Father Benedict Joseph Groeschel, who has a doctorate in education and decades of counseling experience. He is convinced that Labré was bipolar. Daniel the Monk (talk) 18:33, 30 June 2012 (UTC)Reply

Burial Site edit

His tomb is in the church of La Madonna dei Monti(aka Santa Maria ai Monti), in the poor Subura neighborhood of Rome where he died.

4.243.101.51 15:58, 16 August 2007 (UTC) Daniel F. BaedekerReply

This is completely appropriate. He was mentally ill. Franciscan priest Benedict Groeschel discusses this aspect of his life in his monograph, Stumbling Blocks to Stepping Stones. --Midnite Critic 15:01, 11 February 2007 (UTC)Reply

Source for his collapse at Santa Maria ai Monti and death at Via dei Serpenti 2 is a historical marker on that house. Emporostheoros (talk) 00:09, 28 July 2009 (UTC)Reply