Talk:Bayume Mohamed Husen

Latest comment: 8 years ago by Royalcourtier in topic Frontkämpfer-Abzeichen

Tag edit

Sources for the alleged loss of citizenship are a) not refering to Husen and b) the purported mechanims is a rather maybe in the German article. Better check that. Whoever let that loose on DYK, has neither understood nor read the sources in question. Serten 09:05, 2 December 2014 (UTC)

That part's ok. The source he had his passport taken away. I've clarified it. I'm more concerned about the fact that I don't see support in the source for the previous sentence, which says he tried to join the Wehrmacht. I'm gonna reply the big tag by a little tag.Volunteer Marek (talk) 21:22, 6 December 2014 (UTC)Reply
Point is, Hansen probably never had a full German citizenship, so he couldn't loose it. 1934 he was allowed to travel to Tanganyika for a film shot, so I doubt the dogooder story about him being discrimized from scratch. According the biogyrphy, he applied for service in the Wehrmacht and I don't see any reason to doubt that. He was neither a "child soldier" nor a scholar nor an actor, but a sort of working class jackofalltrades, and a Ladies guy as well. He managed to marry a pregnant lass while another kid was underway and got both kids and a third one raised as one family with the official broad. That wouldn't be the trodden path today, but doing that as a black guy in 1933 berlin shows some skill. Serten II (talk) 01:29, 9 December 2014 (UTC)Reply
Unfortunately too many people use passport as a synonym for citizenship, when they are quite different.Royalcourtier (talk) 04:22, 9 January 2016 (UTC)Reply

Biography edit

Isn't it more conventional to refer to his "life" being covered by a biography, rather than "His afro-German fate", which is a rather unusual (if not bizarre) wording.Royalcourtier (talk) 04:21, 9 January 2016 (UTC)Reply

Citizenship edit

There is some speculation about citizenship. However shouldn't the starting point be what is actually known of the citizenship of the residents of German East Africa?Royalcourtier (talk) 04:26, 9 January 2016 (UTC)Reply

Frontkämpfer-Abzeichen edit

If Husen was eligible for the Frontkämpfer-Abzeichen he would have received it. Eligibility would have been described in the relevant regulations. I doubt that the regulations exclude Africans, in fact I am sure that I have seen photos of African veterans with medals. If Husen wore the Frontkämpfer-Abzeichen don't we have to assume that he was awarded it, rather than assume that he broke the law by buying a medal from a dealer? Don't Wikipedia rules require that we presume that someone has not broken the law?Royalcourtier (talk) 04:30, 9 January 2016 (UTC)Reply