Talk:Autonomous spaceport drone ship

A Shortfall of Gravitas

Looks like A Shortfall of Gravitas is still coming per [1]. Removed coming in "mid-2019" note though. OkayKenji ^{(talk page)} 23:30, 9 October 2019 (UTC)

It's (finally) here and has been out doing powered operations on the sea, as of 9 July 2021. See article history from that date, and shortly thereafter, for sources. N2e (talk) 19:15, 10 July 2021 (UTC)

Could we include the coordinates of the landings in the landing table? or at least downrange distance

I think it would a useful to capture where each landing attempt/succesfull landing occured. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1700:E70:A9A0:5CD4:4B60:6821:C5E1 (talk) 20:56, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

Should be easy enough to figure out by using the launch location, target inclination, and landing downrange distance, unless there is a verifiable source that says the coordinates. Kadermonkey (talk) 20:22, 6 March 2021 (UTC)

Even just Distance downrange, or distance offshore would be interesting and may be regularly available. I came here looking for downrange distances, but found only a few. - Rod57 (talk) 13:39, 16 October 2021 (UTC)

Name: Autonomous SpaceX droneship? or Autonomous spaceport drone ship? Time will tell

Well, we've had another change of name by SpaceX and SpaceX CEO Musk. While the existing drone ships have consistently been referred to as Autonomous spaceport droneships since c. 2015, by Musk... ... this time, he referred to the new (more self-propelled) ASDS, A Shortfall of Gravitas (Marmac 302) as an "Autonomous SpaceX droneship". What's new is "...SpaceX..." in the name in the place of "...spaceport...".

What does this mean? This is SpaceX, after all, where descriptors of vehicles (whether space, land, or marine) seem to be free to change frequently, much to the dismay of Wikipedia editors who try to explicate this stuff. And, clearly, "Autonomous SpaceX droneship" is not yet WP:COMMONNAME, so not suggesting we change the article at this time. But do think it something to watch, and begin to observe the secondary sources, and see if the new name is both a) repeated by SpaceX and b) begins to catch on in other media sources. The new ship is rather clearly a bit different class/variety of ASDS, due to propulsion, outer form line, and likely other characteristics that have not (yet) been publicly released. N2e (talk) 18:49, 10 July 2021 (UTC)

Or, perhaps, Mr. Musk just mistyped in a tweet. Or simply got his own company's terminology wrong. Fcrary (talk) 22:28, 10 July 2021 (UTC)

A Shortfall of Gravitas -- July 2021 - video footage - licence ?

For the record, Port Canaveral posted video footage today of several good angles/vies of the new droneship, A Shortfall of Gravitas (ASOG), Marmac 302, coming into port on the Florida coast for the first time. From the shipyard in Louisiana, before the paint job has gotten messed up from Falcon 9s landing on it. video link Perhaps could be possible to get them to release their video, or some snippets from it, with a Creative Commons license, to improve the article for the long term. N2e (talk) 23:29, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

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I made a new ASDS statistics chart for each ASDS on this page

hi @Ergzay, @C-randles, @Mfb, @Inertiabikes, @GigaShip and @AmigaClone, from the day of 100th successful Droneship landing of a Falcon booster i was thinking if we had a chart for each Droneship like all landing charts on pages of SpaceX landing zone. so i made 4 charts for the 4 ASDS under their name in characteristics section. if you saw a merged chart is also possible that will be placed in vessel missions (as all LZs (especially 1 and 2 on same site) have a separate chart of themselves, i made a separte one for each Droneship). please voice your opinion. Thank you for visiting this discussion if you visit. Chinakpradhan (talk) 06:23, 19 June 2022 (UTC)

I don't see a benefit from that many graphs, but maybe a single one (only showing the ship used, not the outcome) could give an overview what was used when. --mfb (talk) 07:26, 19 June 2022 (UTC)

but outcome is neccessary @Mfb Chinakpradhan (talk) 07:37, 19 June 2022 (UTC)

Why? We don't have that in e.g. our launch pad graph either. --mfb (talk) 08:30, 19 June 2022 (UTC)

i am comparing with Landing Zones 1 and 2 and SpaceX Landing Zone 4 graph i told at the start only i made the graph because we have a graph of lzs @mfbChinakpradhan (talk) 09:45, 19 June 2022 (UTC)

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•   Falcon 9 Failure (Marmac 300)
•   Falcon 9 Success (Marmac 300)
•   Falcon 9 Success (Marmac 304)
•   Falcon Heavy Success (Marmac 304)
•   Falcon 9 Failure (Marmac 304)
•   Falcon Heavy Failure (Marmac 304)
•   Falcon 9 Failure (Marmac 303)
•   Falcon 9 Success (Marmac 303)
•   Falcon 9 Success (Marmac 302)
•   Falcon 9 Failure (Marmac 302)

@mfb i made one for rough how is it. Chinakpradhan (talk) 10:18, 19 June 2022 (UTC)

I think that's far too crowded to be useful. --mfb (talk) 10:57, 19 June 2022 (UTC)

While I like the concept of the graph above, I agree that it appears too crowded. AmigaClone (talk) 11:32, 19 June 2022 (UTC)

i dont see crowding to be a issue otherwise why would this List of Falcon 9 first-stage boosters#Booster turnaround time ever exist?? @mfb Chinakpradhan (talk) 13:01, 19 June 2022 (UTC)

All these are identical reuses of essentially identical boosters, excluding some historic categories. We use different colors just so you can see where one bar ends and the next bar starts, not to distinguish one or even two types of information (ship and landing outcome) at the same time. --mfb (talk) 13:49, 19 June 2022 (UTC)

@Chinakpradhan Your graph above is too crowded. If you want to make a drone ship landing graph. I'd include only successes and then split them up by drone ship. Including successes and failures simply duplicates a graph we already have. Ergzay (talk) 04:59, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

@Ergzay so I think I should make the graph as @mfb said . BTW Ergzay, @Mfb and @AmigaClone there are 3 no attempts (1 JRTI (I) and 2 OCISLY) do i need to count them if as mfb noted "only showing the ship used". i consider touchdown under this graph only. here's it

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•   A Shortfall of Gravitas (Marmac 302)

i would also like to link List of Falcon 9 and Falcon Heavy launches#Booster landings on this page Chinakpradhan (talk) 09:43, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

btw @mfb please tell if my above idea was right to be published in place of 4 existing bar charts Chinakpradhan (talk) 14:59, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

A simple error solving

hi @Ergzay, @C-randles, @Mfb, @Inertiabikes, @GigaShip and @AmigaClone, I know you make be busy but please tell which droneship mission till starlink 3-1 is missing on this page. This https://spacexfleet.com/droneship-data tells us till 94 attemplts, remove 2 cancelled attempts form 92 but my count says 91 for starlink 4-11. Please help out guys in this topic Chinakpradhan (talk) 19:45, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

I count 110 in our statistics. 10 failures, 100 successes. Something larger is missing here. --mfb (talk) 02:23, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

hi @Ergzay, @C-randles, @Mfb, @Inertiabikes, @GigaShip and @AmigaClone, what a flaw in this page i discovered. i salute the spirit of wikipedians that edited this page before i joined wikipedia. comparing with our statistics table, i found they forgot to add the Telstar 18V to the vessels section. And we followed and built onto this mistake for 3 years, 10 months and 3 days. thanks i rectified it it by edits.Chinakpradhan (talk) 11:33, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

Landing date

Most of the references for launches use UTC time and date. For consistency, should that not also be the case for landings?

Case in point, the Falcon 9 launching Starlink 3-4 took off 10:40 pm on 30 August 2022 local time (Pacific time). That launch was 5:40 am on 31 August 2022 UTC. AmigaClone (talk) 15:00, 31 August 2022 (UTC)