Talk:Assassination of John F. Kennedy

Information to real shooter of Kennedy Semi-protected edit request on 4 March 2024

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2 different zapruder tapes are known to exist. The one you see used is highly edited as there is half a tree displayed and people missing from the shot. The second tape that wasn't edited, was able to be slowed enough that you see Bill Greer (JFKs driver) pull an electric gun and shoot Kennedy from the front. This correlates with why the back of Kennedys skull was the majorilty reflected damage. Had L.H.O been the killer, the bullet wound would have been in the larger in appearance at the front of his skull, not the back. The assassination was a coup designed for Lyndon Johnson to give control back to the elites since Kennedy had issued executive orders to get rid of the federal reserve.

YouTube video interview: https://www.facebook.com/share/r/BcLatuUGg5QoBgCM/?mibextid=oFDknk 24.235.148.150 (talk) 15:39, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: You have not indicated what exact changes you would like to be made (e.g. "change X to Y"), nor have you provided a reliable source for your claims (a Facebook post of a TikTok clip of a YouTube video of a someone filming their TV is not a reliable source, see the Sagan standard). You also leave out the part where Seymour, the only person to have seen the supposed "real" tape, also says that both it and the version with the floating tree were fabrications created to discredit her. --Ahecht (TALK
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An electric gun seems so very James Bond. Wouldn't it have been easier just to poison JFK's coffee? EEng 02:41, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

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Kennedy and Connally name mixup

In the caption under the images of the bird’s eye view of the bullet trajectory (black ink drawings with red markings) it reads “Kennedy’s non fatal wound and Connally’s wounds” when I believe it should instead read “Connally’s non fatal wound and Kennedy’s wounds”. Fixing this would improve readability of this very important article. I have never edited Wikipedia (or written on the talk page) before but I noticed this error and I thought it would be good to point out. Lightningbolt007 (talk) 23:10, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

Kennedy was shot more than once, with fatal and non-fatal shots. Acroterion (talk) 23:16, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

Ok, thanks for clarifying. Lightningbolt007 (talk) 02:16, 30 March 2024 (UTC)

Very slight correction on Kennedy's Arrival in Dallas.

Hi I'm Sleep, I'm a Belgian final year student that has chosen the assassination of John Fitzgerald Kennedy as my final year essay. I wanted to be as diligent as possible in the flight arrival hours so I searched for official documentation on such a precise thing as Kennedy's arrival in Dallas. I noticed that it shows as 11:40 on this page although official flight logs from the National Museum of the United States Air Force shows the arrival to be at 11:38. Here is the document. https://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/Visit/Museum-Exhibits/Fact-Sheets/Display/Article/579674/sam-26000-logbook/

I hope my correction doesn't come across as petty or irrelevant, I just want to contribute to improving what will be for most the go-to source of information on this subject. I lack sleep (talk) 11:22, 30 March 2024 (UTC)

It's not petty or irrelevant at all, but it does highlight yet another reason we prefer secondary to primary sources. No doubt there are many logs and records reflecting "arrival" -- pilots, Secret Service, airport tower, etc. Each may have its own definition -- wheels touched down, aircraft stopped at a designated disembarkation point, door opened, Kennedy appears at door, who knows? All these might be valid "arrival times". Plus in those days, everyone was just looking at his watch and writing down what it said. That's not the sort of thing we as editors can sort out, nor should be try.

Presumably the "11:40" figure you mention as currently being in the article comes from some reliable source which made a reasoned choice among the above. Perhaps that source took the figure from e.g. the Warren Commission, which itself found a center point among several records at slight variance. But in any event, we rely on secondary sources to do that for us.

Now, if there's conflict or controversy among secondary sources on this point, that might be worth bringing out in the article. But on this particular point I doubt there will be.

So while your attention to detail is laudable, it turns out that this is one of those places that we as editors make our lives easier by letting others do the work. EEng 02:35, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for your answer, I understand. I lack sleep (talk) 10:29, 1 April 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 May 2024

Change

“ Common culprits include the FBI, the CIA, the U.S. military,[277] the Mafia,[278] the military-industrial complex,[278] Vice President Johnson, Castro, the KGB, or some combination thereof.”

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“ Common culprits include the FBI, the CIA, the U.S. military,[277] the Mafia,[278] the military-industrial complex,[278] Vice President Johnson, Castro, the KGB, Israel, or some combination thereof.”

with this source cited next to “Israel”: https://www.nsa.gov/portals/75/documents/news-features/declassified-documents/jfk/jfk00067.pdf Spiritedpause (talk) 15:11, 2 May 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: For several reasons. One, this is a primary source that's not necessarily neutral, see WP:PRIMARY specifically point four, which states Do not analyze, evaluate, interpret, or synthesize material found in a primary source yourself; instead, refer to reliable secondary sources that do so. (emphasis in original). Two, the sentence in the article says "common culprits include", and one instance doesn't equal common. Three, the article states "Zionists" and not explicitly Israel. Bestagon ⬡ 16:59, 2 May 2024 (UTC)

CIA Involvement.

https://www.archives.gov/research/jfk/release2022

Its been declassified and confirmed that the CIA had direct involvement in the JFK Assassination down to recruiting the shooter. So why hasn't this information been added to the page yet? Why has my query from last year been deleted from record... and why do you keep denying CIA involvement when they've confirmed it in black and white? 2A02:C7C:4CAE:6C00:4133:C91A:3A18:9B97 (talk) 14:47, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

You linked to a primary source of thousands of pages. What do you think we are supposed to do with this? Find a reliable secondary source WP:RSPRIMARY O3000, Ret. (talk) 14:52, 23 August 2024 (UTC)