Talk:Ashok Swain

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There seems to be ongoing sabotage regarding Mr Swain´s name involving changing the name to swine on and around the 16 march 2019. Noted by Mr Swain himself on twitter the same day. Franke 1 (talk) 17:19, 16 March 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 17 March 2019

Darkstarmanny (talk) 15:28, 17 March 2019 (UTC)

@Darkstarmanny:  Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate.--Breawycker (talk to me!) 20:23, 17 March 2019 (UTC)

Delete

Subject clearly fails notability. It should be deleted per WP:BLPSELFPUB and WP:BASIC. You should have discussed it on talk page rather than reverting me. DogsFrogs (talk) 18:17, 18 June 2020 (UTC)

• The subject is obviously notable Atlantic306 (talk) 18:21, 18 June 2020 (UTC)

@Atlantic306: And how is that? It clearly fails the above mentioned policies. He's hasn't received any coverage in multiple third-party sources. The sources cited in the article are just accumulation of websites where he works. See WP:BLPSOURCES and WP:BLPSELFPUB DogsFrogs (talk) 18:31, 18 June 2020 (UTC)

@Atlantic306: Reply? DogsFrogs (talk) 19:43, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

• • Google scholar here shows well cited works which mean he passes WP:NPROF criteria 1 which is determined by cite count in most cases, Atlantic306 (talk) 20:03, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

@Atlantic306: Please read WP:NPROF again. He doesn't meet the criteria stated by the policy. Secondly, the Google scholar link is not a criteria for notability. There are thousands of academicians like him contribution far more than his work, but that doesn't mean they deserve an article.DogsFrogs (talk) 20:15, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

You read the whole page again and you will see that citations are used to determine criteria 1 and also google scholar is nearly always used as a reliable source to prove citations.Also thousands of similar professors do have Wikipedia articles Atlantic306 (talk) 20:25, 19 June 2020 (UTC) See the special criteria section of WP:PROF Atlantic306 (talk) 20:27, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

@Atlantic306: Subject clearly fails General notes. Subject has neither received coverage in media, nor has he received any awards, nor his work has any significant impact. Subject clearly fails notability both in media and academics. I am nominating article for deletion, we can discuss it there. DogsFrogs (talk) 20:47, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

The special criteria overrides the general notes Atlantic306 (talk) 22:32, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

Public Intellectual

One Wikipedia editor appears insistent about not letting me use 'public intellectual' to describe the professor.

Hence, I am initiating this discussion.

When you search 'who is a public intellectual' in Google, the response the Google AI generates is this:

" A public intellectual is an intellectual who participates in society's public affairs discourse in addition to their academic career. They are often well-known specialists in a particular field who are willing to comment on current affairs.

Public intellectuals are individuals who are in the pursuit of knowledge-making and knowledge-sharing. They are often believers in the importance of fact-finding, researching, sharing insights, and hearing diverse perspectives.

Public intellectuals can include:

Writers, Journalists, Philosophers, Professors, Bloggers, Vloggers.

Becoming a public intellectual often requires a degree of success within academia while also having excellent communication skills and spending significant time building a public profile. "

I believe Ashok Swain qualifies based on his extensive engagements with the media on a wide range of public affairs including the democratic backslide occurring in India.

I have refrained from mentioning on the Wikipedia page that Professor Swain is a prominent critic of the current Modi Government in India. Since the Government of India cannot jail him, it has chosen to target him by canceling his OCI card and blocking his entry into India.

All this has received wide coverage in Indian media.

This is part of a pattern which includes laws targeting and persecuting Muslims in India — prominent figures like student activist Umar Khalid have been in jail for more than three years — and jailing of independent journalists such as NewClick founder Prabir Purkayastha. Other independent news organizations have faced tax raids in the form of 'surveys.'

These references above point to these raids on both NewsClick and Newslaundry.

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There is also this definition of 'public intellectual' shown in Google's search results:

" public intellectual in American English

an intellectual, often a noted specialist in a particular field, who has become well-known to the general public for a willingness to comment on current affairs.

Webster's New World College Dictionary. "

The Wikipedia page about public intellectual itself defines a 'public intellectual' thus:

" The term public intellectual describes the intellectual participating in the public-affairs discourse of society, in addition to an academic career. Regardless of their academic fields or professional expertise, public intellectuals address and respond to the normative problems of society, and, as such, are expected to be impartial critics who can "rise above the partial preoccupation of one's own profession—and engage with the global issues of truth, judgment, and taste of the time". "

This should settle the matter about whether Professor Swain qualifies as a public intellectual or not.

Some others on Wikipedia who have been described as public intellectuals incldue:

Noam_Chomsky

Ramachandra_Guha

Bertrand_Russell

Bernard-Henri_Lévy

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AltruisticHomoSapien (talk) 11:17, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

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