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On Kluge (again!)Edit

In the next week, when I have more free time to re-read books and research, I will finish my part on Kluge. Once we are content with the article’s quality, it will be your turn to pick a subject :) We can discuss that and some books you recommend for me to prepare researching.TheGracefulSlick (talk) 20:20, 1 December 2018 (UTC)

@TheGracefulSlick: it's good to see you back. I need to dust off my Barbarossa books; I believe I've already moved the content pertaining to the Battle of Moscow to Kluge's article. Regarding WWII books in general, my library is here: User:K.e.coffman/Library. I can recommend all of these books; it just depends on what topic areas interest you. I got many of these books after watching the authors' talks on Youtube. If you'd like, I can link some of my favourite ones. --K.e.coffman (talk) 03:07, 2 December 2018 (UTC)
If it is not too much trouble, I would like those links. I think I want to contribute to articles on the Einsatzgruppen and the Holocaust on the Eastern Front, if there is room for improvement in those areas of course. I am also open to other suggestions.TheGracefulSlick (talk) 04:55, 2 December 2018 (UTC)
I have nearly completed editing Kluge on the Western Front; all that is left to discuss is the Falaise Pocket. It is odd researching this stage of his career and the rapidly changing situation in France, knowing he would be dead by the end of August. I probably do not have the books to sufficiently cover the Eastern Front, but I can pick up a few you recommended if you need help.TheGracefulSlick (talk) 04:49, 12 December 2018 (UTC)
@TheGracefulSlick: Kluge in 1943 would be good to cover. If you are interested in the Eastern Front, then getting Robert Citino's book on 1943 would be useful. It was a great read (although I don't own it; I borrowed it from the library):
  • Citino, Robert M. (2012). The Wehrmacht Retreats: Fighting a Lost War, 1943. Lawrence, KS: University Press of Kansas. ISBN 978-0-7006-1826-2.
Here's the corresponding lecture on YouTube: "Fighting a Lost War: The German Army in 1943", which is quite engaging. --K.e.coffman (talk) 06:34, 12 December 2018 (UTC)
Just so you know, I was not the one who added “Hans” to Kluge’s name. None of my sources claim that was his first name. I will remove it from the lead.TheGracefulSlick (talk) 20:03, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
@TheGracefulSlick: My addition at User:K.e.coffman#Apocryphal nicknames was not directed at you at all; I apologise if it came across this way. When I edit articles, I sometimes look up the old version. In Kluge's case, I came across the section name "Opposition to Hitler", which I found odd. While Kluge turned a blind eye to the conspirators on his staff, he did not oppose Hitler per se, and the section more or less discussed this lack as such. I did find the uncited passage in re: the nickname to be hilarious, especially given where it was placed. This topic area sometimes contains such irrelevant trivia, so that was no surprise, but the link to Clever Hans was too much :).
BTW, "Hans" does appear to be part of his official name: "Hans Günther von Kluge 1882-1944". at Deutsches Historisches Museum., but I've not seen it in English-language sources, so I think it's fine to keep it out of the article. --K.e.coffman (talk) 03:11, 3 January 2019 (UTC)
No apology is necessary. By the way, does anything suggest his birth name is “Gunther Adolf Ferdinand Kluge”? The article is coming together well. After some touchups to his role (or lack thereof) in the 20 July plot and the intro, it should nearly be ready for review.TheGracefulSlick (talk) 06:35, 3 January 2019 (UTC)
  • I need some clarity before I finish editing Kluge. From what I have researched, Kluge had conferences with conspirators of the 20 July plot, and he agreed to cooperate but only if Hitler was dead. When it was discovered that he survived, Kluge backed out. On 17 August 1944, he was dismissed because he refused to order a counter-attack, and Hitler was convinced he was negotiating with the Allies. Does that align with what you have read? Also, how much weight should be given to Stroop’s claim of killing Kluge?TheGracefulSlick (talk) 02:48, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
    • @TheGracefulSlick: Since this part of the discussion may be of interest to other editors, I responded on the article's Talk page: Talk:Günther von Kluge#20 July plot; manner of death. Hope you don't mind. K.e.coffman (talk) 05:45, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
      • I finished work on Kluge during the 20 July plot and his death. Would you be willing editing the introduction? I only ask because I do not consider writing those to be a strength of mine. Once that and whatever else is left on the Eastern Front are complete, we can probably consider nominating the article for review.TheGracefulSlick (talk) 07:51, 10 January 2019 (UTC)
        • @TheGracefulSlick: I'm pretty much finished with the 1941-43 period as well. I've expanded the lead; I'm open to improvements. Please feel free to suggest other articles to work on; there are plenty to pick from. --K.e.coffman (talk) 23:27, 10 January 2019 (UTC)
          • Is it alright with you if I nominate the article for review? You will receive a notice when an editor picks it up, correct? I am pretty set on Guderian being our next topic, but I will think it over in case anything else comes to mind.TheGracefulSlick (talk) 01:35, 11 January 2019 (UTC)
  • That was fast!TheGracefulSlick (talk) 02:10, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

Recommended WWII lecturesEdit

The Wehrmacht myth (both are must see)

WWII strategy / operational history / Wehrmacht criminality

Holocaust in Eastern Europe

@TheGracefulSlick: This would be a good start. I own books by all of these historians and can recommend them all. K.e.coffman (talk) 03:19, 4 December 2018 (UTC)

@TheGracefulSlick: Adding Victor Davis Hanson:
  • Why World War II Matters -- this was really interesting because Hanson provides a 30,000 view of the conflict, and some of the stats he used were new to me, putting the conflict into a different perspective. Recommended.
  • World War II Leadership -- a deeper dive into the leaders.
--K.e.coffman (talk) 03:59, 23 December 2018 (UTC)
Thanks Coffman, I nearly finished the first set of videos; House and Citino were my particular favorites. I will watch these after the holidays (Merry Christmas by the way!).TheGracefulSlick (talk) 19:09, 23 December 2018 (UTC)



Die Zeit, die Tag und Jahre macht

Happy 2019 -

begin it with music and memories

Thank you for your project help last year! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:44, 1 January 2019 (UTC)

@Gerda Arendt: thank you & same to you! K.e.coffman (talk) 01:10, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
Thank you! Please check out "Happy" once more, for a smile, and sharing (a Nobel Peace Prize), and resolutions. I wanted that for 1 January, but then wasn't sad about having our music pictured instead. Not too late for resolutions, New Year or not. DYK that he probably kept me on Wikipedia, back in 2012? By the line (which brought him to my attention, and earned the first precious in br'erly style) that I added to my editnotice, in fond memory? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:27, 12 January 2019 (UTC)

Draft:Pete DemersEdit

Hello - thanks for reviewing the page I submitted. I can shorten it as requested. I object to your criticism that the article should "be written from a neutral point of view" - as it is written from a neutral point of view. I also object to the criticism that the article "should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources, not just to materials produced by the creator of the subject being discussed." The footnotes include 14 independent sources. The information provided by the subject is the only way to confirm some facts of his life.

I intend to continue working on this entry as the subject is valid and merits inclusion. Further clarity about sourcing criticism and tone are needed. Thank you MarionPB (talk) 14:22, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

@MarionPB: Please see User talk:MarionPB#Paid editing disclosure. The disclosure being placed on your user page and the article's Talk page is mandatory. --K.e.coffman (talk) 01:09, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

Hi there - thanks for this information. I already posted the disclosure on my talk page. The disclosure is also on the entry talk page. Can you tell me why his original headshot was removed from the article. Revisions to shorten the article are in progress. Thanks - MarionPB (talk) 16:17, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

@MarionPB: The image was deleted on Commons via a deletion discussion, in which you participated. For general advice on how to improve your draft, please see Wikipedia:Your first article. Once you feel that the draft has been sufficiently improved, you can resubmit it. --K.e.coffman (talk) 23:24, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

Hi - Thanks for your response. I did not participate in the discussion about the photo that was deleted. I have permission to use the image as well as the pictured content. I would like the image restored as part of the editing. Thanks MarionPB (talk) 14:39, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

@MarionPB: Here's the Commons discussion: c:Commons:Deletion requests/File:Peter G Demers with Hall of Fame Plaque.jpg. Wikimedia Commons is a separate from; you can inquire with the deleting administrator there. K.e.coffman (talk) 23:24, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

Einsatzgruppen in August 1941Edit

What were the Einsatzgruppen doing in August 1941? Hunting partisans of course, per this diff. Icewhiz (talk) 16:24, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

@Icewhiz: That's a good one. I added the article to my collection at User:K.e.coffman#"Ah, partisanen!". It's disturbing that we get such diffs in the year 2018. --K.e.coffman (talk) 06:08, 11 January 2019 (UTC)


I saw Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bounce Exchange. Anyway I found an article in the Commercial Observer about a company called "Bounce Exchange" or "BounceX" leasing space in the new World Trade Center. I might be able to make a truly independent article on this company.... BounceX Moving to 79K SF at 1 World Trade Center. --WhisperToMe (talk) 17:40, 5 January 2019 (UTC)

@WhisperToMe: this is basically a rewarmed press release, even including a quote from the exec:
  • “We are thrilled BounceX is relocating their New York office to One World Trade Center,” Jonathan “Jody” Durst, the president of Durst Organization, said in a statement. “Companies choose 1 World Trade Center because the building fosters innovation and attracts growing companies that thrive in our energetic and creative environment.”
Companies move to new offices all the time; this is a routine piece of news. In any case, I don't see sources that would meet WP:CORPDEPTH in re: this company. --K.e.coffman (talk) 18:18, 5 January 2019 (UTC)
Re: Newspapers substantially using press releases as sources, unfortunately that is a common issue; even if the newspaper employee technically wrote it, he/she possibly isn't adding enough unique information and would be too beholden to the company, so I suppose it's better to wait until other sources about Space X come up.
As for companies moving offices, I agree that with branch offices it is routine. With their headquarters/principal places of business it often is a big deal; I recall the Mayor of Houston being overjoyed when Continental Airlines moved Downtown, while NYC Mayor Ed Koch didn't like it when American Airlines moved to Fort Worth.
There are occasions where branch offices moving are a big deal: Shell Oil Company probably didn't think much about shutting its offices in Southside Place, Texas, but that was a big chunk of tax money going away for the tiny municipality, so for them it was a big deal, and the Houston Chronicle articles covered that info.
WhisperToMe (talk) 19:51, 5 January 2019 (UTC)
  • @WhisperToMe: Please see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bounce Exchange which was quite thorough. K.e.coffman (talk) 23:51, 5 January 2019 (UTC)
    • I had beforehand read the final comments from people stating that they used your rationale to vote delete. After seeing your detailed comments, I recognize the whole "not intellectually independent" rationale straight-away. Frankly I agree that articles about companies need to be intellectually independent to count as notable. One unfortunate thing is, with cutbacks in the newspaper/media industry, new articles will be less and less likely to be intellectually independent :(
    • Also I've seen somewhere (I forget where) that "Business Journals" often just rehash press releases...
    • WhisperToMe (talk) 05:54, 6 January 2019 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CLIII, January 2019Edit

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If you are a project member who does not want delivery, please remove your name from this page. Your editors, Ian Rose (talk) and Nick-D (talk) 23:58, 6 January 2019 (UTC)


Hello, thanks for your feedback on this article - I responded to your query on paid editing in my user talk space. As I am getting more and more familiar with the wikipedia community rules, I would love to get your advice on what defines the notability status (I have read over the WP:NCORP guidelines numerous times and believed that this article met the regulations - has substantial and independent coverage from multiple sources). I chose to write about Service Titan because I am familiar with the industry, and they accumulated numerous characteristics that make them extremely well-known in the venture capital and startup community in general, and in the gig economy marketplace in particular: - Unicorn status (market valuation over $1 billion) - Market leader with 20% market share across two countries - Part of the American-Armenian commercial agreement

I would love your guidance: is this is sufficiently notable but not well explained? If so, how can I improve on this? Thanks so much. - Accessexpertise (talk) 17:10, 7 January 2019 (UTC)

@Accessexpertise: The draft was rejected for notability reasons. Please see Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies), and especially WP:CORPDEPTH. --K.e.coffman (talk) 04:29, 8 January 2019 (UTC)

Belated happy holidays and happy new year!Edit

Thank you, K.e., for your thoughtful holiday greeting on my talk page; I had great holidays and hope you did, too, and I hope you have a great 2019, as well! —Undomelin (talk) 19:46, 7 January 2019 (UTC)

Same here! Waleswatcher (talk) 17:43, 9 January 2019 (UTC)


Hello @K.e.coffman:

I pray all is well... It was disappointing when I received a reject e-mail of my created article due to my last name Kiwanuka as a Conflict of interest I would like you to please reconsider this decision. Due to my last name, it may seem that I might be related to Hemdee Kiwanuka, but that is far from the truth, I am just a fan of anyone with the name Kiwanuka. As a Ugandan, the name Kiwanuka means so much, your last name identifies what tribe and clan you belong to, but it doesn't mean that you are related to that person with the same last name. Below are more people with the name Kiwanukas but we are not related. As I was following and searching for singer Rachel K (musician) and actress/singer Halima Namakula, sister and mother to Hemdee Kiwanuka, I realized that Hemdee Kiwanuka doesn't have a page so I read/researched and created one for him as a tribe's mate and fan of the Kiwanuka family, plus I know what Hemdee Kiwanuka as done for my country Uganda via seeing him on TV and reading about him in the local news.

There is also a singer Michael Kiwanuka, business woman Kiwanuka, Maria and football player Mathias Kiwanuka... I reference all this people with the same last name as mine, not to undermine you at all, but to show you that we are not so many Ugandans highlighted, so when a few makes it internationally, the entire country gets to know about it, so we follow those who makes it very closely.

So @K.e.Coffman, Instead of rejecting my article, I humbly request you to please help me make it better, so that I can also continue creating articles for others Ugandans who deserves it. Could you please Re-Review the article... You also declined due to Notability of Hemdee Kiwanuka's credentials as an actor/producer and concert promoter, so I deleted the acting and concert credentials and only kept Film and Television Producer because Hemdee Kiwanuka had more articles written about him as a producer than an actor and concert promoter.

Thank you Leah Kiwanuka (talk) 02:59, 8 January 2019 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) @Leah Kiwanuka: Your draft was not rejected because of a potential conflict of interest. Instead, the draft was rejected because its subject was not shown to be notable. It's great to see more articles about African topics, but Wikipedia has to be based off of reliable sources and if there's not enough coverage, we can't justify an article. I would encourage you read up on notability guidelines and contribute to articles whose topics are notable. buidhe (formerly Catrìona) 03:04, 8 January 2019 (UTC)

@Buidhe: Thank you so much for taking a pick at my creation, I've read over notability guidelines rules and guidelines over and over again, can you please clarify and help me understand what is notable, because I looked at other artists, business people and actors from Uganda and they all used the same references as I used creating Hemdee Kiwanuka's page. I will try to create another artist or personality page and see if that will pass the wiki criteria, but the only reference I can make are our local news papers. Leah Kiwanuka (talk) 04:33, 8 January 2019 (UTC)

@Leah Kiwanuka: I think an easier way of learning the ropes may be trying to edit existing articles. See for example Category:Uganda. There are various sub-categories listed there that may interest you, such as Category:Ugandan culture, also with multiple sub-categories. K.e.coffman (talk) 04:41, 8 January 2019 (UTC)

Draft:Martin SpeakeEdit

I had a bit of a go at cleanup, what do you think? Govvy (talk) 20:43, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

  • (talk page stalker) @Govvy: I just rejected this draft again, as a copyright violation. buidhe (formerly Catrìona) 20:56, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
@Buidhe: I add a couple of citations, I was thinking of removing two paragraphs because of that mention. Govvy (talk) 21:08, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

Draft:Benjamin Teixeira de AguiarEdit

Hi There, Thanks for pointing out the article inconsistencies with the Wikipedia standards. As a fan of sharing useful information on the internet, I'll change the article to fit the Wikipedia standards and I'll resubmit if for review. Further, I'd like to let you know that I do not get paid, neither I'm trying to promote or advertise anyone. There is already a Wikipedia page about Benjamin Teixeira de Aguiar in Portuguese Wikipedia, so I'm just sharing it with the non-Portuguese speakers. Also, I don't have any relationship with Benjamin Teixeira de Aguiar. I got to know his work by the Ph.D. thesis of Dra. Emma F. Stone and from articles about Spirituality with or without religion.

Thank you again and I'll copy this declaration o my profile in the WP:COI layout. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ijgsantos (talkcontribs) 05:31, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

@Ijgsantos: the article is still highly promotional, and even more so, with the latest expansion. The notability is questionable if any. It's unlikely to pass review, to be honest. K.e.coffman (talk) 10:31, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!Edit

  The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar
For your tireless work keeping the Nazi's and their pals away!★Trekker (talk) 03:12, 11 January 2019 (UTC)

Counsel on a crypto company page creationEdit

Hello, I saw on WikiProject Crytocurrency that you are quite interested in moderating cryptocurrency related articles and even proposed some articles for deletion and AFDed others. I'm looking to create a page for a Crypto company "Paxful", here is a quick google search result about the company. Checking through Wikipedia I discovered a draft has previously been created in 2016 by a user that seems to have WP:COI but was rejected. So I seek your advice as a more experienced colleague, do you think it's worth giving a shot? or I should divert my energy to something else. Regards Epaomo (talk) 12:30, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

@Epaomo: The company doesn't look notable to me. Most of the search results are press releases, blogs, or a Forbes contributor, which do not count for notability per WP guidelines (see WP:Perennial sources). If you're interested in crypto, I would encourage you to improve existing articles, such as cryptocurrency, bitcoin, etc. buidhe (formerly Catrìona) 12:43, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
Same thing my gut was telling me but felt I should seek clarification. Thanks for your time I really appreciate it. --Epaomo (talk) 14:15, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

Bespoke PostEdit

Hi, although I know following the standards outlined in the Notability section on Wikipedia doesn't guarantee submission, I'd like to request a re-review since the publications cited in this article do meet the notability criteria. Citations are from major news outlets and trade magazines - and talk in length about the company (they are not small spots).

If you still feel differently, I ask for advice on where to look for sources.

GregBrianData (talk) 21:35, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

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