Talk:A Monster Calls

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2012 Carnegie and Greenaway Medals

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Patrick Ness and Jim Kay have won the British CILIP year's best awards as author and illustrator, akin to (author and illustrator of) one book winning the U.S. ALA Newbery and Caldecott Medals. The British awards are open to all books published in the UK within three months of their original publication (since when is that true?); Carnegie Medal in Literature dates from 1936; Kate Greenaway Medal dates from 1955; this is the first double win for one book, by one person or two.

As I depart --the second editor to work here today, having updated the Carnegie and Greenaway articles-- this article cites Daily Telegraph news coverage of the award and The Guardian interview with Ness & Kay. Here is a longer list of references, more or less complete. Beside further work here, they will be useful for the Stub! Patrick Ness and for Jim Kay "if and when".

Bold distinguishes the two sources now given in this article (but i have added data to name=telegraph).

--P64 (talk) 19:48, 14 June 2012 (UTC)Reply

Date formats

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Yesterday we used Retrieved date format yyyy-mm-dd and publication date dd month yyyy (dmy) --copied from theguardian without paying any attention. Previously almost everyone has used the American style month dd, yyyy (mdy) and the exception is not the first editor.

Rather than edit to match the majority, I suggest we use dmy which is the norm for UK-related articles. --P64 (talk) 17:44, 16 June 2012 (UTC)Reply

Sources

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Regarding the Carnegie and Greenaway Medals won by Ness and Kay, we use two articles in The Guardian newspaper. That's an outside source worth using in other articles on CILIP medal winning works. At the same time we may/should consult other official sources here.

Beside the Carnegie Medal citation (book and author blurbs) that is now referenced in the article [ref name=medal2012], official CILIP press releases are available online. --back to 2002, so this may be essentially permanent

Two releases 14 June 2012 feature Ness, Kay, and Monsters of Men (the two Medal announcements, which are not (yet?) accompanied by "Background" press kits as they have been for a decade.) Four earlier releases 27 March 2012 may be useful, two "Shortlist ... announced" and two "... Judges comments on the shortlist".

The CILIP "Shadowing Site" seems at a glance to serve a youth program for the current/latest year. --As of July, 2012 is latest rather than current. Maybe it's worth a look on a slow day (but wikipedia editors never have those, eh?)

--P64 (talk) 00:57, 31 July 2012 (UTC)Reply

TWO MORE REVIEWS
MISSING REVIEWS. We quote reviews by Philip Pullman and Meg Rosoff in section Critical reception, previously with reference to a dated publisher presentation (not the current ref name=walker):
  • "A Monster Calls". Walker Books. 2010 (publisher's contemporary blurb with book trailer). Retrieved 2011-12-07. {{cite web}}: Check date values in: |date= (help)
There I do not Pullman, Rosoff or the words we quote, nor links to reviews, so I have deleted the reference. (I do find both in a retailer presentation at Barnes & Noble[1].) The Rosoff does appear at ref name=walker, attributed to Library Mice but no reviewer. The Pullman does not appear there and I have tagged that {{citation needed}}.
--P64 (talk) 19:51, 5 November 2012 (UTC)Reply
The Siobhan Dowd Trust's presentation leads with the same four-word quote of Pullman:
  • "A Monster Calls (2011)". The Siobhan Dowd Trust. 6 September 2011 — ("Books" blog? with links to latest news and to archives)
The Trust may be useful as a substantial source. Anyway, it links some worthy material:
Wheeler was consulting pediatric oncologist for the novel. She explains that she has recommended it to patients and notes its review by The Lancet medical journal. The Lancet review is online for subscribers or pay-per-view.
  • "A Monster Calls". Odhran O'Donoghue. The Lancet Oncology 13.5 (May 2012) page 458. (subscription required) — "The result is a harrowing and deeply engaging account of the heartbreaking effects that cancer has on the children of afflicted patients." (from the lead)
--P64 (talk) 20:33, 5 November 2012 (UTC)Reply
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