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My name is on the blacklist for some reason Matithegamer (talk) 14:22, 15 June 2023 (UTC)

@Matithegamer: What makes you say that? Describe what you try to do and what happens. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:26, 15 June 2023 (UTC)

Fully protected edit request 5/25/23

# Stop repeated creations of G1 word salads
.*mixing.*sailors.* # See https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?prefix=draft%3Amixing+sailors&title=Special%3AUndelete&fuzzy=1

Append this section with

.*rooster.*inversions.* # See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Gsthae_with_tempo!

Looks like Gsthae with tempo! is repeatedly using this title to create patent nonsense pages now - I think it would be a good idea to blacklist titles that consist of some combination of "rooster inversions".

-- Shadow of the Starlit Sky 14:52, 25 May 2023 (UTC)

I'm leaning towards decline. Fuzzy undelete of Draft:Rooster inversions currently shows all hits (there aren't any outside of draft), including two your pattern won't match. There's only been ten, and all are relatively recent: two created early January, two late January, one each in mid- and late February, and four spread out over the last two weeks. By way of comparison, Mixing Sailors has been over a hundred titles, in multiple namespaces, and has persisted at least eight years. Blacklisting now is likely to do more harm than good; they'll just work around it and the new variants will go unnoticed, like how Draft:Rooster-Inversions survived almost three months (because nobody was looking for the pattern yet) and how Draft:Mÿxing-Säïlors was crafted specifically to evade its pattern and lasted more than a month. —Cryptic 06:53, 28 May 2023 (UTC)

Request refactored for clarity. SWinxy (talk) 20:07, 30 May 2023 (UTC)

I noticed that Draft:Rooster.Inversions was created today. -- Shadow of the Starlit Sky 04:51, 31 May 2023 (UTC)

 Not done for now: per Cryptic Izno (talk) 00:56, 17 June 2023 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 22 July 2023

Add the .webp file extension to # Prevent accidental creation of files with double extensions or unconventional spacing Jonteemil (talk) 19:42, 22 July 2023 (UTC)

@Izno: Would you be able to add it? Jonteemil (talk) 00:14, 26 July 2023 (UTC)

 Done Izno (talk) 00:49, 26 July 2023 (UTC)

Salt Zepotha-related pages

I'll preface this by saying that I don't know if this, WP:EFR, or nowhere is the most appropriate venue for this. There appears to have been a recent TikTok trend involving a fictional 1980s horror movie named Zepotha. I am not entirely sure of the story behind it, but it seems like a user publicized the idea of spreading this nonexistent movie to promote their music. Since then, many IPs, new accounts, and in one case I have seen, an autoconfirmed account have created and edited hoax drafts (and userpages/project pages/mainspace articles). By my count, pages have been G3'd (or similar) at least 13 times in the past 24 hours. See Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Zepotha for some examples, but there are several more.

Given the fairly consistent disruption recently, this might be a candidate for title blacklisting. I am assuming the trend will be relatively short-lived (although who knows). A few of the pages have been salted, but obviously that is not an great option since people just keep creating differently titled pages. Blocks are also not an option since the disruption is distributed across multiple accounts and IPs who, for the most part, don't seem to be socks.

Note that if someone does go ahead with this, there have been some cases of (probably intentional) misspellings like Draft:Zapotha, so that might need to be accounted for to try to mitigate circumvention. —⁠PlanetJuice (talk • contribs) 16:58, 13 August 2023 (UTC)

All of the pages the accounts on that SPI page have edited are in the list given by Liz on the SPI (and B3251 in the MFD; the lists are the same), except for Draft:Zepotha 3, User:Asoterria, and draft talk pages. None of the accounts have any live edits. List of existing and deleted pages (and deletion logs) matching /.*z[ae]potha.*/i, which includes everything in the SPI/MFD lists, the pair of Zepotha 3 pages, the Zapotha page, and a bunch more (but neither the user page nor Zephota, which was moved by its creator to Zepotha), is at quarry:query/75837.

This isn't yet at the point where it would normally merit a title blacklisting, unless there's more pages/accounts I don't know about, but does look like it might get there pretty quickly. In particular, the currently-existing Draft:Zepotha seems perfectly reasonable as a draft, even though it wouldn't survive in mainspace with the sourcing it has. Since all the deletions happened on the 12th and 13th, I'm inclined to wait and see how persistent this is. —Cryptic 02:25, 14 August 2023 (UTC)

This is probably unnecessary now and in hindsight was perhaps a bit premature. Disruption seems to have slowed down and moved to userpages and Draft:Zepotha, which now has ECP for the time being. Thanks for the advice. —⁠PlanetJuice (talk • contribs) 01:50, 16 August 2023 (UTC)

Declining the edit request for the time being. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 08:29, 15 August 2023 (UTC)

Overly broad new entry

A recently added entry regarding NCircle Entertainment, a non-notable home video distributor, is overly broad — as currently written, it covers any word containing the letter n or N that precedes the word circle, e.g. Netcong Circle. I'd suggest changing the entry to .*N[\s-]?[Cc]ircle.* <casesensitive> to prevent only new articles about NCircle. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 05:15, 22 August 2023 (UTC)

I agree (and should have looked at the diff instead of just the edit summary on my watchlist). Full list of matches here. I'll edit as soon as I have results for your pattern. —Cryptic 05:37, 22 August 2023 (UTC)

OK, done. Results for your pattern here. @Ivanvector: - any problematic titles not in that list? I don't see any in your deletion logs, but I certainly haven't gone through all 7000-and-some entries in the first query. —Cryptic 05:47, 22 August 2023 (UTC)

Thank you both for checking my sloppy work. I do try to test against edge cases and possible false positives but of course I can't think of everything, and this is a bit of a tough case on top of all that. Nothing problematic that I can see not being captured by your refined query, but it also doesn't need to catch entries for "NCircle Network Security" which seems to be a distinct topic, and "ncircle" on its own is fine. I had tried adding .*[E|e]ntertainment.* but then it seemed overly specific. The entry was meant to catch a UPE case that was repeatedly recreating NCircle Entertainment as well as multiple drafts and userspace pages with the same title (sometimes with a numeral in parenthesis, like how Windows renames duplicate files), so salting was not going to go far enough. Please adjust as you see fit, or if this can't be refined enough to be useful then I'll try salting some of the pages instead. Thanks again. Ivanvector (^Talk/_Edits) 14:45, 22 August 2023 (UTC)

I'm not concerned about the NCircle Security false positives, since they're all deleted and all long ago; and the most recent NCircle was related to the Entertainment company. Somewhat more bothered by it catching File:TKTNcircle.jpg and similar (despite that being even older); I might have tried something like .*\bn\W*circle.* (case-insensitive again) if I was blacklisting this de novo, but it wasn't worth bikeshedding LaundryPizza03's version while we were still blacklisting so many false positives. —Cryptic 15:38, 22 August 2023 (UTC)

Zero-width joiner

I would suggest adding:

.*(?=.*[A-Za-z])(?=.*[\x{200C}\x{200D}]).* # Zero-width (non)joiner with Latin letter

Or, equivalently, if for some reason lookahead (?= ) doesn't work:

.*[A-Za-z].*[\x{200C}\x{200D}].*

.*[\x{200C}\x{200D}].*[A-Za-z].*

The characters zero-width non-joiner (200C ~ %E2%80%8C) and zero-width joiner (200D ~ %E2%80%8D) are generally invisible, which is potentially problematic. For example, recently Giancarlo DiTrapano was at Giancarlo DiTrapano‍ (Giancarlo DiTrapano%E2%80%8D).

However, these two characters have legitimate use in redirects from emojis and words in non-Latin scripts, including these redirects that have one or the other, which is why I am limiting this to titles that also have Latin letters. SilverLocust 💬 07:44, 26 August 2023 (UTC); revised 05:48, 27 August 2023 (UTC)

Remove Entry

For some reason WikipediaDoesNotAllowSnakeCase is not allowed as a username. 73.69.254.249 (talk) 17:40, 28 August 2023 (UTC)

The local title blacklist has no impact on what usernames are allowed. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 04:18, 1 September 2023 (UTC)

Edit request May 2023

Please blacklist:

• "Object show"
• "Inanimate Insanity"

WP:COATRACK for WP:BFDI, already blacklisted. Thanks 118.149.80.96 (talk) 22:30, 28 April 2023 (UTC)

 Not done it isn't clear what you want done. Please provide the exact text of the change you would like to make, as if you could edit the page yourself. — xaosflux ^Talk 14:51, 1 May 2023 (UTC)

These terms are closely related to the YouTube series Battle For Dream Island (BFDI), which are a salted topic due to repeated re-creation. Inanimate Insanity is a BFDI spin-off, and BFDI-esque content are called "object shows", which is not a notable concept. Ca ^{talk to me!} 06:21, 8 September 2023 (UTC)

Request salting en:Category:Honorary citizens

Per Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 August 1#Category:Honorary citizens. Long story short: categories about honorary citizens have been created and deleted and created again and deleted again etc. since 2007, while there is a very strong consensus that these categories are en:WP:NONDEFINING and en:WP:OCAWARD. I think salting it would save Wikipedians a lot of time and energy in the future instead of having to track this down and rehash the same deletion discussions over and over we've been having for over 16 years, but always ended with the same result: deletion. Cheers, Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 08:42, 9 August 2023 (UTC)

For the record, I directed Nederlandse Leeuw here in the closing statement for the linked discussion, on the grounds that they had requested salting but ordinary salting wouldn't work since the problem wasn't the same page being recreated but different pages with similar titles being recreated. The entry to add would be Category:.*honorary citizens.*, preferable with a custom error message explaining the problem, but I'm undecided as to whether it is actually necessary and would prefer an admin other than me make that call. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 21:27, 9 August 2023 (UTC)

List of previous deletions here. I widened the pattern to /^Category:.*honorary.*citizen.*/, which finds 8 more deletions among 7 titles. There's also three currently-existing categories - Honorary citizenship, Lists of honorary citizens, and Lists of honorary citizens by city - but that's not much of an issue in this namespace. —Cryptic 22:31, 9 August 2023 (UTC)

@Pppery @Cryptic Do either of you want to add these? Izno (talk) 22:32, 8 September 2023 (UTC)

Probably if this remains unanswered for long enough I will eventually do it, but as I said above it was my preference for someone else to make the decision. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 00:04, 9 September 2023 (UTC)

I don't work with categories enough to be able to make a competent decision either way. —Cryptic 01:03, 9 September 2023 (UTC)

So over a month after the initial request nobody cares -  Done * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 01:19, 10 September 2023 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 22 September 2023

Add the <antispoof> attribute to .*[D|d]om.*[P|p]ewee.* as per the recent creation of DDP DJ Dominic Pewe€ (DJ D P) this page via a sockpuppet. Deauthorized. ^(talk) 03:13, 22 September 2023 (UTC)

 Done * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 18:05, 24 September 2023 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 23 October 2023

Please remove (?!(?:Talk:|(?:User|Wikipedia|File|MediaWiki|Template|Help|Category|Portal|Draft|TimedText|Module) talk:)).*\/Print <noedit|errmsg=titleblacklist-custom-print> from the title blacklist.

It has been ten years since the potential security problems were discovered, and they ought to have been fixed by now. Also, certain non-print templates are also locked such as Template:HD/print. Book namespace was disabled and the default MediaWiki print service were disabled for security reasons. Awesome Aasim 23:49, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

Also delete MediaWiki:Titleblacklist-custom-print per G8 after removal. Awesome Aasim 23:50, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

Pinged TheDJ and Davidgothberg here to see if the security issues have been, in fact, fixed. In particular, while the book creator is inactive now the download-as-PDF function is still active - does it rely on /Print subpages? Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 08:41, 24 October 2023 (UTC)

This should be no problem to remove. The /print functionality was removed quite some time ago and is not going to return. And even before it was removed, I'm pretty sure this issue had been fixed already for a while. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 08:51, 24 October 2023 (UTC)

Thanks. OK, this is done then, as well as the corresponding rule on the titlewhitelist. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 08:59, 24 October 2023 (UTC)