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Page watchersEdit

On ANI, you mentioned how many editors were watching a specific article. How can you tell? (I think it can be useful for some articles to know if it's being watched by others, but don't know how to find that info.) Schazjmd (talk) 15:42, 25 May 2019 (UTC)

Assuming you're on desktop, in the menu at the left there's a link called "page information", which shows you some technical info about the page you're on including how many editors have the page on their watchlist. I don't know how accurate it is, though, and you can't tell from that who is watching. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 19:06, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
(ironically a page watcher) There's no reason to suspect the count is inaccurate. However, if the number of watchers falls below 30, only administrators see the exact number. Non-admin users see something like "fewer than 30".--Bbb23 (talk) 22:58, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
Ahh, you're right, I forgot about that. I wonder what the reason for that is? Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 01:00, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
See WP:W (Number of watchers).--Bbb23 (talk) 02:14, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
I suppose part of the idea is to keep potential vandals from being able to tell if a page is unwatched or close to it. Unfortunately, as I've discovered, there are plenty of unwatched pages where vandalism will stick around for long periods. Admins are trusted users, so there's no concern there. Enigmamsg 17:38, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

Updating LTA pages for new characteristic IP range?Edit

After my semi-apology to Sro23, I finally got my report on the apparent home IP of WP:Long-term abuse/Fangusu filed at AIV (and actioned later). But while tagging on a question at ANI it finally clicked that the most recent IP was not on the list of characteristic IPs ( and Very close (old) though (new).

That's the prep. The question is, what is the bar to meet to add a new characteristic range? Oh, and physical location needs to be updated to add Sacramento area. That could be done now given usage last several months (CalUniv at Sacramento). Shenme (talk) 00:07, 29 May 2019 (UTC)

Hi Shenme! I've been following Fangusu for many years now, longer than I can actually remember, and I wrote most of the LTA page originally. The ranges I listed in the infobox were those that were active at the time. There's not really a "bar", we just add info if we think it will be useful for future investigations. When it comes to IP ranges, "close" is not really a thing, two IPs are either in the same subnet or they're not. The 172.56 and .58 addresses are inside (or to which is a very large T-Mobile range, while is outside that range and assigned to a different ISP, one I don't recognize actually but I'm not up to date on all the various small American service providers. It's entirely coincidence that the similar numbers also happen to be physically located near each other.
According to the tool we most often use, that address is within (block range · block log (global) · WHOIS (partial)), which is small enough to be useful in terms of investigations. Having a look at the contributions from that range, I'd say that Fangusu has been using, and also Special:Contributions/ and Special:Contributions//, but that's as far back as I've looked. So yeah, I say list it.
As for location, Sacramento is probably accurate but we don't need to be terribly specific. IP geolocation is pretty rough in some parts of the United States anyway. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 14:04, 29 May 2019 (UTC)

Discussion at User talk:Bbb23#User:Bring back Daz Sampson againEdit

  You are invited to join the discussion at User talk:Bbb23#User:Bring back Daz Sampson again. -- Marchjuly (talk) 22:25, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi Ivanvector. If you're watching Bbb23's user talk and this link is unnecessary, then my apologies. I'm only posting it as a courtesy since you were one of the administrators who posted in support of this editor being unblocked. I'm not questioning the unblock, only expressing concern that the editor is starting to repeat behavior which played some part in their being blocked in the first place. -- Marchjuly (talk) 22:30, 2 June 2019 (UTC)
Just notifying you of Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#User:Bring back Daz Simpson: NPA and ASPERSIONS as a courtesy since I mentioned you by name in the thread. -- Marchjuly (talk) 06:17, 3 June 2019 (UTC)
Thanks, Marchjuly. For some reason I got your ping from ANI but no notifications about your messages here. Hmm. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 11:57, 3 June 2019 (UTC)
I'm not sure what happened with the other notifications. Perhaps there's a bug or something happened on my end. -- Marchjuly (talk) 21:19, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – June 2019Edit

News and updates for administrators from the past month (May 2019).

  Administrator changes

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  CheckUser changes


  Guideline and policy news

  • An RfC seeks to clarify whether WP:OUTING should include information on just the English Wikipedia or any Wikimedia project.
  • An RfC on WT:RfA concluded that Requests for adminship and bureaucratship are discussions seeking to build consensus.
  • An RfC proposal to make the templates for discussion (TfD) process more like the requested moves (RM) process, i.e. "as a clearinghouse of template discussions", was closed as successful.

  Technical news

  • The CSD feature of Twinkle now allows admins to notify page creators of deletion if the page had not been tagged. The default behavior matches that of tagging notifications, and replaces the ability to open the user talk page upon deletion. You can customize which criteria receive notifications in your Twinkle preferences: look for Notify page creator when deleting under these criteria.
  • Twinkle's d-batch (batch delete) feature now supports deleting subpages (and related redirects and talk pages) of each page. The pages will be listed first but use with caution! The und-batch (batch undelete) option can now also restore talk pages.


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A barnstar for you!Edit

  The Admin's Barnstar
I had once been your critic and we even shared brickbats. That did not stop you from doing the right thing whenever needed. Your suggestions related to ARBIPA were excellent and I am glad that you proposed them. My Wikilife has become peaceful and you deserve a biggest chunk of its credit for the work you have done in your admin capacity. Thanks again. DBigXray 13:34, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

Delete case pageEdit

Hey Ivan sorry about that I created a second one not realizing you put in the appropriate page – can you terminate my other one- Thank you FOX 52 (talk) 04:06, 11 June 2019 (UTC)

I should have followed up earlier, but it looks like Bbb23 took care of it. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 17:33, 12 June 2019 (UTC)

"Elephant in the room"Edit

The subject thread has been re-archived by a third party. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 14:57, 12 June 2019 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The section on which you've just reverted my close pertains to allegations that Raystorm was somehow involved in the matter of banning Fram. Given Raystorm's denial that matter should be considered closed, and the section should remain archived. Unless you're alleging that Raystorm is lying, which would be a far more serious allegation and would belong somewhere else entirely. The new comment you've added, while relevant, appears unrelated to the subject of that section and should be asked in a new section at the bottom of the page. I'd request you to please re-archive the elephant discussion and continue the other points elsewhere. Thanks  — Amakuru (talk) 13:55, 12 June 2019 (UTC)

Jesus Christ, Amakuru, go have a read of WP:AGF before you write another thing so grossly off the mark. I'm "alleging that Raystorm is lying"? I asked her to clarify an administrative process. I don't have one bit of a clue what you read in my question that was an accusation. Go ahead and revert it if you're so offended by it. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 14:05, 12 June 2019 (UTC)
Read my comment again. I didn't say you were alleging that. I don't for a minute believe that you were alleging it. I said unless. Hypothetically. Which would be the only reason to possibly keep open a thread which is about the issue of Raystorm's involvement in Fram's blocking. Your comment that you made on be reopened thread, while addressed at Raystorm, was on a separate topic and belongs elsewhere. That's all. Thanks  — Amakuru (talk) 14:26, 12 June 2019 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.


Re this, you may want to look in at template:Retired which says, rather undeniably:

"Editors should promptly remove this template from their user pages if they resume editing for any reason. If still editing on rare occasions, use {{semi-retired}} in preference."

With regards to BU Rob13‎, aside from the fact I considered him to have been an appalling administrator, he probably, in all intents and purposes, is a likeable person, but his flagrant disregard to the rules, such as seen here, whilst chastising those of us who did the same, somewhat sticks in the craw and seems a little bit "do as I say, not do as I do". The rules apply to him too, and you, an administrator, should know that. Anyway, I'll leave you and Montanabw to wax lyrical about me some more on his talk page, as I have far more interesting things to be getting on with. Good evening. CassiantoTalk 16:58, 14 June 2019 (UTC)

Please do get on with something else. It's usually me espousing meaningless pedantry for no reason at all, and being on the other side of it, I admit it's quite tiring. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 17:01, 14 June 2019 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:People's Mujahedin of IranEdit

The feedback request service is asking for participation in this request for comment on Talk:People's Mujahedin of Iran. Legobot (talk) 04:30, 15 June 2019 (UTC)


Not sure if you know who I am. We had interacted with each other here. I would like to invite you to notice this petition launched by WMF Taiwan branch and join/support the petition if you find convenient. Best! --It's gonna be awesome!Talk♬ 17:57, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

Mark BourrieEdit

Please look at what's happening to this page, and read the new entries on the talk page. 2607:FEA8:C360:C3:99F7:DB71:6772:B707 (talk) 18:17, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

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