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WikiProject Ancient Egypt to-do list:
  • Needed articles.

We should have an article on every pyramid and every nome in Ancient Egypt. I'm sure the rest of us can think of other articles we should have.

  • Cleanup.

To start with, most of the general history articles badly need attention. And I'm told that at least some of the dynasty articles need work. Any other candidates?

  • Standardize the Chronology.

A boring task, but the benefit of doing it is that you can set the dates !(e.g., why say Khufu lived 2589-2566? As long as you keep the length of his reign correct, or cite a respected source, you can date it 2590-2567 or 2585-2563)

  • Stub sorting

Anyone? I consider this probably the most unimportant of tasks on Wikipedia, but if you believe it needs to be done . . .

  • Data sorting.

This is a project I'd like to take on some day, & could be applied to more of Wikipedia than just Ancient Egypt. Take one of the standard authorities of history or culture -- Herotodus, the Elder Pliny, the writings of Breasted or Kenneth Kitchen, & see if you can't smoothly merge quotations or information into relevant articles. Probably a good exercise for someone who owns one of those impressive texts, yet can't get access to a research library.

WikiProject Egypt (Rated Project-class)
This page is within the scope of WikiProject Egypt, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Egypt on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.
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Stock post message.svg To-do list for Wikipedia:WikiProject Ancient Egypt: edit·history·watch·refresh· Updated 2021-05-04

  • Needed articles.

We should have an article on every pyramid and every nome in Ancient Egypt. I'm sure the rest of us can think of other articles we should have.

  • Cleanup.

To start with, most of the general history articles badly need attention. And I'm told that at least some of the dynasty articles need work. Any other candidates?

  • Standardize the Chronology.

A boring task, but the benefit of doing it is that you can set the dates !(e.g., why say Khufu lived 2589-2566? As long as you keep the length of his reign correct, or cite a respected source, you can date it 2590-2567 or 2585-2563)

  • Stub sorting

Anyone? I consider this probably the most unimportant of tasks on Wikipedia, but if you believe it needs to be done . . .

  • Data sorting.

This is a project I'd like to take on some day, & could be applied to more of Wikipedia than just Ancient Egypt. Take one of the standard authorities of history or culture -- Herotodus, the Elder Pliny, the writings of Breasted or Kenneth Kitchen, & see if you can't smoothly merge quotations or information into relevant articles. Probably a good exercise for someone who owns one of those impressive texts, yet can't get access to a research library.

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Two recent recurring problemsEdit

In recent weeks, somebody editing under several IP addresses that geolocate to the Glasgow area has been editing articles on various pharaohs and their relatives, making unsourced assertions about pharaonic genealogies and people's ages at death. Examples: these edits to Pepi I Meryre, this edit to Pepi II Neferkare, these edits to Ramesses III, and these edits to Ramesses X (in this case the edits apparently contradict recently discovered evidence). User talk messages are frustratingly futile when sent to hopping IPs, so I really don't know what to do about this editor.

Another problem, unrelated but recent and recurring is the behavior of a couple of editors, User:Ahmed88z and User:Ⲙϩⲙⲱⲇ ⲱⲥⲁⲙ. They've been inserting maps that claim Egypt's empire during the New Kingdom extended far beyond what I understand its limits to have been—claiming it ruled over Mitanni, Cyprus, all or most of Mesopotamia, and Punt. Ahmed88z has been warned but has not stopped If anyone else can keep an eye out for these dubious edits, I'd appreciate it. A. Parrot (talk) 22:32, 8 July 2021 (UTC)

Ipy and TaweretEdit

Not entirely sure if this is the right wiki project to post this but I have a issue.

So I created this article called Ipy (goddess) and I kept noticing how this figure has similarities to Taweret. I did some research and there are some sources indicating they are the same figure.CycoMa (talk) 20:45, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

The sources I found are in the page page for Taweret.CycoMa (talk) 21:01, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

Family tree of the Egyptian gods nominated for deletionEdit

Again. See my reasoning at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Family tree of the Egyptian gods (2nd nomination). A. Parrot (talk) 20:01, 10 October 2021 (UTC)

A link to a DAB pageEdit

Can anyone identify the Nubt which, according to the article 32nd century BC, was annexed by Thinis ca. 3160 BCE?. Thanks in advance, Narky Blert (talk) 11:19, 20 October 2021 (UTC)

The Nubt you want is Naqada, according to Hassan et al (2006) 'The sequence and chronology of the Protodynastic and Dynasty I rulers' Archaeology of Early Northeastern Africa (Studies in African Archaeology 9). Poznan Archaeological Museum p.694. However this source doesn't give a specific date for the conquest or say specifically if it was Thinis or Nekhen that annexed them Merytat3n (talk) 20:30, 20 October 2021 (UTC)
I've made the change. Thanks! At least, we can get the place right. Narky Blert (talk) 21:00, 21 October 2021 (UTC)

Statuette of the lady TiyeEdit

Draft:Statuette of the lady Tiye appears to me to be a defective but promising draft about a subject worth writing up. The draft was created by a username that's otherwise unknown and who disappeared before submitting it to AFC. In part to forestall its death from old age, Liz submitted it; I was then the second person to comment on it.

In principle Liz or I might be able to knock it into shape, but I've no reason to believe that Liz is anything of an Egyptologist, I'm certainly not, and I'm very wary of (non-trivially) editing material about matters that are utterly new to me. Can Liz and I nudge somebody here to take a look? -- Hoary (talk) 07:34, 5 November 2021 (UTC)

I personally don't think it meets notability. While I've only looked at two of the sources the Met gives on their website as publications the statue has been mentioned in (Pharaohs of the Sun, and The Scepter of Egypt vol 2, they don't say anything beyond 'its a lovely wooden statuette of a lady from Medinet el-Gurob dated to late in Amenhotep III's reign'. The lack of in-line citations has been mentioned already, as has the fact its not the Queen Tiye. It also says she wears the Nubian wig - she does not, its a regular long women's wig; I assume this is the sentence the Aldred Hairstyles and History article is used as a reference for. Merytat3n (talk) 20:23, 5 November 2021 (UTC)
I think the statuette is worth an article. It is depicted more than once in art histories and books on Ancient Egypt.Udimu (talk) 21:47, 5 November 2021 (UTC)
Thank you for your comments. I've removed all the stuff about how this shows a queen, but would prefer not to proceed further. If this draft is worth bothering with, then I think that one or more editors who (unlike me) have some background knowledge should take over. -- Hoary (talk) 12:07, 8 November 2021 (UTC)

Esmet-Akhom vs. NesmeterakhemEdit

I invite anyone that's knowledgeable and interested to weigh in here on whether the last hieroglyphic inscription should most appropriately be called the Graffito of Esmet-Akhom, the Grafitto of Nesmeterakhem or something else entirely. Ichthyovenator (talk) 23:39, 30 November 2021 (UTC)