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movie, Action in the North Atlantic.

In the movie Action in the North Atlantic, during the credits at the end, there is a voice over speaking some dialogue can you tell me in print, what the text is, in other words the script of what he is saying. thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Laurence briskey (talk • contribs) 09:44, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

I found the ending on Youtube, in which uncredited actor Jack Young imitates Franklin D. Roosevelt: "From the freedom-loving peoples of the united nations to our merchant seamen on all the oceans goes our everlasting gratitude. With their aid, we shall build a bridge of ships to our allies, over which we will roll the implements of war. We shall see to it that men and materials will be delivered, where they're needed and when they're needed. Nothing on land, in the air, on the sea, or under the sea shall prevent our complete and final victory." Clarityfiend (talk) 20:41, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

I'm feel in the rush,i'm lost in the sound song help please !!!!

Hi there , I need to find out a song i heard on BBC The Next Step episode 7 currently airing , the lyrics are " i'm feel in the rush, i'm lost in the sound ,i'm up in the sky" But i did not get the whole song . I am wondering some can please help me find out. Thanks very much. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.27.211.112 (talk) 12:10, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

Google finds exactly 1 result for <"feel in the rush" "lost in the sound">, and it's this Reference Desk page: it looks like you've accidentally produced a mondegreen. Can you think of any other words that the song might have contained instead? Nyttend (talk) 13:03, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

Not really , it was running in the background. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.27.211.112 (talk) 13:08, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

BBC has episodes of The Next Step available online, but only in the UK. I think this is the episode the OP is referring to: [1]. Perhaps someone in the UK could watch it and see if they can figure it out. --Jayron32 13:11, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

Yes , thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.27.211.112 (talk) 13:30, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

The song is called "Turn Me Around". It was written by Grayson Matthews (apparently for that TV series) and the singer was SheKing. Matthews has put the song on his Soundcloud channel. The lyrics you give (which you've accurately transcribed) are the chorus, which beings about 45 seconds in. -- Finlay McWalterᚠTalk 21:36, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

Grayson Matthews' website is here. Reading that, I think "Grayson Matthews" is the name of the company, not a specific person. -- Finlay McWalterᚠTalk 21:42, 23 April 2014 (UTC

Beautiful , mate this was the song i was looking for. Thanks very much

Football waivers

How do Waivers (American football) work as far as player pay? Imagine that I'm an NFL player under a two-year contract with Team A, but after the first year, I get waived, and then Team B picks me up halfway through the next season and retains me until the end of the contract. Does this basically mean that Team B can sign a new contract with me before the two-year contract is expired, or do they have to work with me on the same terms as my original Team A contract (including paying me the same), since waivers involve a team making "an American football player contract or NFL rights available to all other teams"? Meanwhile, am I still under contract to Team A during the first half of the second season (and if so, are they paying me), or are waivers basically a way of dumping the contract entirely? I've never understood this process one bit; sorry if the answers should be obvious. Nyttend (talk) 13:10, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

When you are put on "Waivers", you're contract is being offered to other teams to pick up for the remainder of the contract term. If another team picks you up during the waiver window, they take over your contract under the exact same terms as the original team. That team stops writing checks for you. Team B, of course, can negotiate new terms if they wish, as they can with all of their players. If a player clears waivers, they are then a free agent, the old contract is void, and they are free to sign with any team. --Jayron32 13:15, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

Still somewhat confused; will Team A keep paying me for the first half of the season, since Team B hasn't picked me up yet? I'm also confused about why the contract can be ended early without my consent. Do typical team-and-player contracts say something like "This contract may be ended early through the waivers process", making unnecessary any consent by me when the waivers process is used? Nyttend (talk) 13:28, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

Why do you use the future tense? Let's say someone is put on waivers during Week 8? That player already has paychecks from weeks 1-7 in their bank account. That's in the past. If Team B picks up the player off waivers, they start paying him from Week 8 forward. So team B will pay the rest of his checks, Team A has no future obligations. But it already paid that player. I don't know why you say "will Team A keep paying me for the first half of the season" if the waiver is done at the midpoint of the season, those weeks have already been paid by Team A. For the second part, players in the NFL do NOT have guaranteed contracts. A player may be cut by a team at any time, and when they are cut, the team stops paying checks to the player from that point forward. Any remaining obligations to that player simply evaporate. That's why "Signing bonus"es exist in the NFL. It gives the player some up-front guaranteed money. But when a team cuts a player, the salary left to be paid just... doesn't have to be paid. The signing bonus has already been paid (it's already in the player's bank account) but paychecks for yet-to-be-played weeks are not. So if a player is placed on waivers, and another team claims him, the remaining time on his contract from the day he's picked up is assumed by the new team. If no team picks up the player, the remaining time on his contract is paid by nobody. It just, you know, goes away. --Jayron32 13:42, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

Just for reference This article does a pretty good job of describing how pre-season waivers work (the system changes somewhat for in-season waivers) but usefully, it also has a copy of the NFL waiver policy, directly from the Collective Bargaining Agreement. --Jayron32 14:06, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

And, for some light reading, Here is a PDF of the complete Collective Bargaining Agreement. Article 30 deals with terminating players (cutting them from the roster). Players who are terminated are given a severance package that has some rather complex calculations, but looks to be roughly 25% of their remaining unpaid salary for the season in which they are cut. But that can still void many years (and a lot of dollars) remaining on contracts. So it isn't true that players get nothing when they are cut, but they don't get the balance of their contract. --Jayron32 14:14, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

Top 40 hit from 1984

I no longer have The Billboard Book of Top 40 Hits and need to know this question for a personal project. A 1984 song made the Top 40 and came from a television film. I think it was by an R&B artist. Theskinnytypist (talk) 17:04, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

There are all sorts of actual film theme songs that were in the charts in 1984, but for TV I only found: "The Yellow Rose" (for the series The Yellow Rose), or possibly the "Miami Vice Theme"; the series, with its theme song, was first broadcast in 1984, but the single wasn't released until 1985 (it's also interesting for being the last instrumental song to top the Billboard Hot 100 for almost three decades, until "Harlem Shake" came along in 2013 :-| ). ---Sluzzelin talk 18:09, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

You might want to check out Billboard Year-End Hot 100 singles of 1984. --— Rhododendrites ^talk |  19:21, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

I had checked it out, but found nothing (except a dusty mess of memories). ---Sluzzelin talk 19:26, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

Can you think of any other details about either the song or the TV movie? A scrap of lyric? ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 20:21, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

I listened to Casey Kasem pretty religiously in the 80's and this isn't ringing any bells. Unless it's a song that made the top 40 and then was subsequently used in a TV movie, is that possible? The pilot TV movie for Miami Vice included In the Air Tonight by Phil Collins. Other near possibilities are songs that made the top 40 after being played in TV series (around, but not quite in, 1984). There's Think of Laura by Christopher Cross, late 83/early 84, featured in General Hospital as Luke & Laura's love theme; At This Moment by Billy Vera and the Beaters, Family Ties, 85/86 season; Hill Street Blues theme made the top 40 in 1981; the theme song for the TV series Fame originated with the theatrical film. OttawaAC (talk) 21:50, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

Don't forget the theme for The Greatest American Hero, "Believe It or Not", though that was a few years earlier than 1984. If it were a theatrical film song, rather than a TV film, there was "Against All Odds (Take a Look at Me Now)" from 1984, from the film of the same name. The article titled 1984 in music may also help the OP. --Jayron32 22:07, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

Movies without romance

My freinds and me were trying ton name commer cial films without any romances at all (by comercial films I mean feature films released in cinemas), but could only came up with Mad Max 2, Fantasia and, arguabily, The Diving Bell and the Butterfly. Clearly my friends an me need to see more movies. What other flms fill this criteria?--87.216.161.173 (talk) 22:40, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

Well, many of the Star Wars films seem to lack romance, perhaps because there are very few women in the universe, leading poor Luke to kiss his sister. :-) StuRat (talk) 22:48, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

No, there's romance in those. In the original trilogy there was the Luke-Leia-Han triangle, and in the prequels was the Anakin-Padme romance. --Jayron32 23:50, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

Lawrence of Arabia famously has no female speaking roles (and José Ferrer's lascivious Turk doesn't count). There's also The Wizard of Oz, 2001: A Space Odyssey, The Treasure of the Sierra Madre, Jaws, The Silence of the Lambs, Saving Private Ryan, etc. Clarityfiend (talk) 23:37, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

Lawrence was interested in Daud and Farraj. μηδείς (talk) 19:36, 25 April 2014 (UTC)

Clarityfiend (talk) 11:35, 27 April 2014 (UTC)

The Caine Mutiny, all three of the Dollars Trilogy (A Fistful of Dollars, For a Few Dollars More, The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly), The Outlaw Josey Wales, The Longest Yard (1974 film), The Shawshank Redemption, Stand by Me, and I'm getting tired of naming them. --Jayron32 23:50, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

Scratch out The Caine Mutiny (Ensign Keith and his wife are a subplot) and The Outlaw Josey Wales (if I remember correctly, Sondra Locke plays a love interest). Clarityfiend (talk) 01:31, 24 April 2014 (UTC)

Yes, I suspect there are a lot. One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest. See also some (but not all) of the examples mentioned in our article on guy-cry film. ---Sluzzelin talk 23:56, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

Alien and Aliens (although there is a bit of frisson between Ripley and Hicks, their "romance" is limited to exchanging first names). Terminator 2: Judgment Day? Reservoir Dogs? --Canley (talk) 23:59, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

Maybe I'm requesting an annoying level of detail for the question at hand but... How would you define "romance?" Mutually consenting interactions based on love and/or sex? Specifically pertaining to the protagonists or anywhere in the film? What about things like flirtation, stalking/obsession, friends with benefits, loveless marriages, relationships held by psychopaths, etc.? --— Rhododendrites ^talk |  00:28, 24 April 2014 (UTC)

The Hobbit trilogy so far, I don't think has romance, unless you're into shipping and stuff. First few Harry Potter movies too. And continuing the pattern of great movies based on great literature, Jackass 3D also has little to no romance. ~Helicopter Llama~ 00:45, 24 April 2014 (UTC)

You missed the she-elf who falls for the tallest of the dwarves and risks her life to save im from the orcs. μηδείς (talk) 19:32, 25 April 2014 (UTC)

I'd echo Rhododendrites question about what constitutes romance. But taking that grey area into consideration, there's also The Bourne Ultimatum. Hard Candy doesn't have any but again, romance may be a grey area there. It's been quite some time but I think The Day of the Jackal was fairly romance-less. Same with The Usual Suspects. Oh, and Clockwork Orange, E.T., and Goonies. Dismas|^(talk) 02:52, 24 April 2014 (UTC)

In The Day of the Jackal he picked up a guy in a sauna and went back to his place ostensibly for a bit of hanky-panky, but that wasn't what he got. I won't spoil if for those yet to see it. -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 06:04, 24 April 2014 (UTC)

Well, that brings back the question of "what is romance?" since it could be seen as just sex. Dismas|^(talk) 19:53, 24 April 2014 (UTC)

Shawshank Redemption. Home Alone. 12 Angry Men (1957 film). Bean. HiLo48 (talk) 05:10, 24 April 2014 (UTC)

The Wizard of Oz, Predator, Alien, Die Hard, Black Hawk Down, I Robot, Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, Finding Nemo, Terminator, The Purge Phylactory (talk) 05:57, 24 April 2014 (UTC)

There's a bit of romance between Kyle Reese and Sarah Connor in The Terminator, and McClane and his wife in Die Hard, so I wouldn't include them. --Canley (talk) 06:54, 24 April 2014 (UTC)

(Original poster) Thanks to all, we should have thinking a bit harder I guess. I have also come up with Duck Soup (1933 film) and The Passion of the Christ (probably most films about the life of Jesus qualify indeed)--87.216.164.140 (talk) 08:08, 24 April 2014 (UTC)

The latter would depend on one's interpretation of the role of Mary Magdalene. HiLo48 (talk) 08:25, 24 April 2014 (UTC)

It would certainly be hard to argue that The Last Temptation of Christ has no romance element. AlexTiefling (talk) 14:06, 24 April 2014 (UTC)

Cool Runnings. Problem Child 2. --Viennese Waltz 08:21, 24 April 2014 (UTC)

The Day the Earth Stood Still would certainly qualify. Also, Little Buddha. And of the Star Wars films, The Phantom Menace really has no discernible romance. The Anakin/Padme thing doesn't get started until the following film a decade later, him being nine and all. Evan ^{(talk|contribs)} 14:29, 24 April 2014 (UTC)

The broader use of "romance"[2] has to do with adventures and heroes, which covers a very large percentage of literature in general, not just movies. I'm reminded of the intro to the TV series The Cisco Kid [3]: "Here's adventure... Here's romance... Here's O. Henry's famous Robin Hood of the old west... The Cisco Kid!" ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 11:31, 24 April 2014 (UTC)

"Hey, Cisco!" - Hey, Pancho!. -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 18:02, 24 April 2014 (UTC)

All the President's Men,Seabiscuit ,The Wizard of Oz,The Longest Day ,A Bridge Too Far and by the way,there is romance in Fantasia,look at the Pastorale section.Hotclaws (talk) 03:35, 26 April 2014 (UTC)

If you mean the 2003 film Seabiscuit, again it's going to depend on the OP's definition of romance since Seabiscuit's owner meets his second wife/lover/whatever during the course of the film. Dismas|^(talk) 20:55, 26 April 2014 (UTC)

Glengarry Glen Ross, The Avengers, Toy Story, The Usual Suspects, Saving Private Ryan, pretty much any of the Monty Python movies. Seriously, this is not a difficult list to build up even if you have a broad interpretation for what constitutes "romance". Matt Deres (talk) 16:36, 28 April 2014 (UTC)