Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Harry F. Sinclair House/archive1

The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was promoted by Gog the Mild via FACBot (talk) 8 September 2021 [1].


Nominator(s): ♠Vami_IV†♠ 02:49, 29 July 2021 (UTC), Epicgenius[reply]

This article is about a historic, Gilded Age mansion in New York City built in the last three years of the 19th century by a seasoned New York architect. It's a pretty charming place, today housing a Ukrainian cultural nonprofit. I worked with Epicgenius in June 2020 to get this to GA for meta:Ukraine's Cultural Diplomacy Month, and we've decided to at last proceed to FAC. ♠Vami_IV†♠ 02:49, 29 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Image review

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Painting is not in public domain according to Met Museum. In US painting copyright can be complicated as they are often unpublished works. Other image copyright looks OK. (t · c) buidhe 05:39, 29 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I'll begin a review of this article very soon! My reviews tend to focus on prose and MOS issues, especially on the lede, but I will also comment on anything that could be improved. I'll post up some comments below over the next couple days, which you should either respond to, or ask me questions on issues you are unsure of. I'll be claiming points towards the wikicup once this review is over.

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Additionally, if you liked this review, or are looking for items to review, I have some at my nominations list. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talkcontribs) 12:47, 8 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Coordinator note

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Three weeks in and despite attracting some attention, the nomination has no supports and little sign of a consensus to promote forming. Unless this changes over the next two or three days I am afraid this is liable to be archived. Gog the Mild (talk) 10:26, 19 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Support from Eddie891

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  • Not seeing it cited that the house is also known as the Isaac D. Fletcher House
  • Do we know how much the Met sold the house for? Also it's surprising to me that the museum was allowed to turn around and resell the house-- do we have any idea what Fletcher's will said, if anything, when bequeathing?
  • Can you be more specific about when the Met sold the house?
  • would "was in residence" be more concisely said as "lived at"?
  • "died within its walls; Anne died there in 1938, as did" "died" is repeated twice-- can this be avoided? perhaps simply as "quietly in the mansion; Anne died there..."
  • "n his final years, Augustus Jr., his butler, and his footman were the only occupants of the house." would there have been many more previously?
  • "several other mansions on Fifth Avenue were being demolished" any that could be linked?
  • " it was added to the National Register of Historic Places." Since you've just named and linked, I think this could probably just be "to the register" or maybe combined with the previous sentence
  • Link "matched grant" to Matching fund?
  • any idea why the design would have been mis-attributed?
  • Link foreman maybe?
  • " A small number of mansions, such as that of Frank Winfield Woolworth at Fifth Avenue and 80th Street, also had narrow frontages along Fifth Avenue." is that really relevant here?
  • can the concrete supports be explained a little further or linked?
  • Has the interior always been the same layout (always 27 rooms)-- also is it 27 rooms per floor or total? Some of us have no concept of how big a mansion is
  • "the carved dragon fish in the railings and those figures in funny hats holding up the windows" these are presumably the seahorses and ? Might be worth stating
    • I am unable to discern what you mean here. –♠Vami_IV†♠ 10:02, 26 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
      • "What are 'the carved dragon fish in the railings and those figures in funny hats holding up the windows' referring to?" is what I think Eddie is saying. The "carved dragon fish" are probably the seahorses, but "what are the 'figures in funny hats'?" is what I believe he's getting at. In response to that, I think the "figures" are actually the carvings of figures in the brackets below each window, but I can't say for sure. Epicgenius (talk) 16:28, 26 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Looks pretty good overall I might take another pass. I have an open FAC if I can interest either of you Eddie891 Talk Work 14:24, 20 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

CommentsSupport from TRM

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That's all I have. Apologies for some of the questions if they appear dumb. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 10:23, 25 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@The Rambling Man: Thanks for the comments. I think they've all been addressed now. – Epicgenius (talk) 17:38, 3 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@The Rambling Man: Sir, could I perhaps draw your attention back to this FAC? –♠Vami_IV†♠ 06:14, 7 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
My concerns have been addressed, so I'm happy to now support this candidate. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 08:26, 7 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Source review

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Spotchecks not done. Version reviewed

Pass. Nikkimaria (talk) 12:04, 7 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Nikkimaria: I believe all of the above has now been addressed. –♠Vami_IV†♠ 06:15, 7 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@FAC coordinators: The article has passed its source review and three supports, and the issue brought up in the image review has been resolved. Should we continue to wait for a formal passage of the image review? Epicgenius (talk) 15:15, 7 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Possibly I am being slow, but I am missing the point of that communication. Was there meant to be some sort of request (for closure, to start another, whatever) implicit in it? Thanks. Gog the Mild (talk) 15:47, 7 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Gog the Mild: I am actually asking if the image reviewer needs to explicitly "pass" the image review before the nomination can be closed. – Epicgenius (talk) 16:12, 7 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Ah. Thanks. Yes, it does. I have queried the reviewer. Gog the Mild (talk) 16:40, 7 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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