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List of mosques in Nagorno-Karabakh

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Short list created in 2013 that has no sources that mostly duplicates the info in the better quality List of mosques in Azerbaijan. As an WP:ATD, I'd also support a redirect to the Azerbaijan list. Dan the Animator 04:18, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment You don’t need to bring this to AfD. See WP:BLAR. Mccapra (talk) 08:14, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sometimes you do due to it being contested/likely to contested. An AfD outcome to redirect for example would be a binding consensus.

As to the nom itself, I support a redirect to the Azerbaijan article. Traumnovelle (talk) 08:29, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Redirect to List of mosques in Azerbaijan, per nom. – Epicgenius (talk) 00:11, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect. Agree that you should redirected the article. If that failed then you could AfD. Zakaria ښه راغلاست (talk) 00:24, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Tao of Zen

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It doesn't meet WP:NBOOK / WP:GNG. Possible WP:ATD is redirect to publisher, but I am not sure if the title is ambiguous. Boleyn (talk) 14:48, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment. @Boleyn: Added some citations. There are also several books that cite Grigg extensively, including a University of Toronto Press one you can view through Project MUSE. (Sorry have to run now.) ~~The book is actually from 1938.~~ Cielquiparle (talk) 15:45, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Lucifer Rising (book)

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Fails NBOOK and GNG. I was able to find one review from Melody Maker on ProQuest (which I could not actually access, but I'm going to accept it's sigcov), this however is not enough for NBOOK, which needs two. Merge/redirect to author Gavin Baddeley if there aren't more reviews? There are a few sources that are interviews with Baddeley that were printed in many newspapers, and while that would be useful for expanding the article if it passed NBOOK, does not count for notability since they don't provide independent commentary on the book itself. It's halfway there, but I haven't been able to find another review.

FWIW I did remove the sources from the page, but not a single one actually mentioned the book, just about the topics the book covered. PARAKANYAA (talk) 03:06, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge relevant content to author page without coverage in two independent sources. Astaire (talk) 04:24, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Merge/redirect to Gavin Baddeley per Wikipedia:Deletion policy#Alternatives to deletion.
This entry from Amazon.com notes:
Review
1. Fascinating and often shocking but worth the entrance fee for the inclusion of the final interview with murdered metal legend Euronymous alone. --Melody Maker, 2nd Feb, 2000.
2. "The result of six years of intensive research, Lucifer Rising is lavishly illustrated with rare and unusual images, most of which are previously unseen... Baddeley has written a definitive study of a timeless subject allowing his interviewees to speak for themselves while ignoring the well-trodden pathways followed by other less-discerning writers. As a study of the potent blend of the occult and the cult of rock, it s unparalleled. Highly recommended. --Record Collector, January, 2000.
3. "Forgive us, Lord, for this is an entertaining, witty read." --Maxim, March, 2000.
There is a copy of the 51-word Melody Maker review here:
Subtitled "Sin, Devil Worship And Rock'n'roll", this starts as a history of early Satanism, through medieval black masses, to thrash, death and black metal. And, of course, Marilyn Manson. Fascinating and often shocking - but worth the entrance fee for the inclusion of the final interview with murdered metal legend Euronymous alone.
The Melody Maker review is too short to be significant coverage. It is possible this book meets Wikipedia:Notability (books)#Criteria from the Record Collector and Maxim sources, but I do not have access to them. This article in the Evening Standard discusses the book but is largely an interview with the author. I am fine with a redirect without prejudice against restoring the article if significant coverage is verified or found.
A redirect with the history preserved under the redirect will allow editors to selectively merge any content that can be reliably sourced to the target article. A redirect with the history preserved under the redirect will allow the redirect to be undone if significant coverage in reliable sources is found in the future. Cunard (talk) 09:30, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: There are a few books and films with this name, so hard to find reviews about this particular book. I couldn't find anything we can use and the sources given now aren't enough. Oaktree b (talk) 12:12, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: There is also a Lucifer Rising (novel). I recommend preserving the article's history as I wrote above. To address Oaktree b's comment about there being a few books with this name, we could do this:
1. Move Lucifer Rising (book) to Lucifer Rising (Gavin Baddeley book). Redirect Lucifer Rising (Gavin Baddeley book) to Gavin Baddeley so that the history is preserved under the redirect.
2. Redirect Lucifer Rising (book) to the disambiguation page Lucifer Rising, which can mention both Lucifer Rising (novel) and the Gavin Baddeley book.
Cunard (talk) 09:28, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Cunard The book’s subtitle is “Sin, Devil Worship and Rock'n'Roll” so maybe it could be moved to the title with the subtitle? I forget the preferred style. PARAKANYAA (talk) 09:45, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The relevant guideline for naming book articles is Wikipedia:Naming conventions (books)#Subtitles and Wikipedia:Naming conventions (books)#Standard disambiguation. If we needed to disambiguate Lucifer Rising (book), I think Lucifer Rising (Baddeley book) would be the correct name. But since we are moving the history to be under a redirect, having the title include the book's subtitle would be fine too. Cunard (talk) 08:10, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Fair enough. PARAKANYAA (talk) 08:12, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Daughters of Mary Immaculate (Chaldean)

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Fails WP:NORG, is dependent upon primary sources and lacks any reliable independent secondary sources. Dan arndt (talk) 15:00, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment Considering this is about an organization, have you done/are you able to research it in Arabic? Spagooder (talk) 17:20, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I’ve searched in Arabic and aside from material published by the order itself I’ve only found material from Chaldean community sources, i.e. not Iraqi national or regional news. From what I can see notability is not established and it would probably make sense to look for a merge target such as Chaldean Catholic Church. Mccapra (talk) 20:49, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Merge per above. Orientls (talk) 15:13, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

St. James Armenian Church

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Unsourced article with no indication of notability. A BEFORE search finds nothing but run-of-the-mill local coverage of the church, and it's not a registered historic building. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 22:08, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep and improve- I think with a bit of time and dedication the article can be improved and expanded. A simple google search yielded 184,000 results. For an almost 100 year old church, they still seem to be quite active on their website and social platforms and they appear to engage with the wider community through planning various events. Archives908 (talk) 13:14, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete The article is about a "church located in Watertown, Massachusetts" but a search shows that there are churches of this name/denomination throughout the US. Were there an article on the denomination (with appropriate sources) this might stand, but I don't see anything that would make this one location on its own worthy of an article. Lamona (talk) 22:45, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Sanghamitta Balika Vidyalaya

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Fails WP:NSCHOOL. Lacks significant coverage in multiple independent reliable secondary sources. Dan arndt (talk) 02:07, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Maryam Rostampour and Marziyeh Amirizadeh

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Opening this deletion discussion per WP:BLPREQUESTDELETE on the talk page (here). Would love to hear editors' thoughts going forward. GnocchiFan (talk) 22:36, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: I think that Marziyeh Amirizadeh is too notable to delete. Maryam Rostampour is arguably notable as well, despite the fact that Marziyeh Amirizadeh is the only one of the two with continuing coverage. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 01:15, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Comment. Draft:Marziyeh Amirizadeh exists as a draft. Assuming that both women are notable, perhaps Draft:Marziyeh Amirizadeh could be added to article space after any necessary improvements are made, and this article could be moved to Maryam Rostamour-Keller (her current name), thereby preserving the edit history. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 08:37, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: I would urge anyone who comments in this discussion to look on the talk page from (one of) the subject's of the article. GnocchiFan (talk) 16:48, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Split I think it is reasonable to have this specific article deleted. However, I would be open to the thought of having a separate article for Maryam Rostampour if she is notable enough. Marziyeh Amirizadeh on the surface level appears to be a notable figure (I have not done much research into her life though), so I would be more comfortable with having a separate article for her. ❤History Theorist❤ 18:35, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Fathers of the Church

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Article appears to fail WP:GNG and WP:BOOKS, with only primary sources used in article. A BEFORE search is complicated by the title of the series. Google Books and Google Scholar turn up citations to individual books in the series, but I can find no secondary coverage of the series as a series. Dclemens1971 (talk) 00:17, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment the book exists! [1] [2] and there are reviews [3] [4] Not sure where to go with this. It's a massive undertaking so is probably notable in its field but not enough coverage yet— Iadmc ♫^talk 03:43, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Logos has the entire 130 volumes for sale electronically for a cool $2365.00 before discounts. Not every book sold by Logos is notable, but many (most?) of them are, and recognized as reference volumes for Christian and adjacent religious studies. How many of the 130 included volumes are individually notable? I have no idea. We've had previous discussions on book series articles recently, and looking at this in that light, I'm relatively certain this should be kept, but more research would be reasonable. Jclemens (talk) 03:59, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Jclemens and @Iadmc - Looks like three of the four links posted above are to direct links to the individual books, not reviews, but the Sage Publications link is to a 1948 review of the series. If we can turn up one or two more reviews of the series itself, I will consider that sufficient to keep and withdraw the nomination. Dclemens1971 (talk) 13:59, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It was hard to find those! I'll try though soon — Iadmc ♫^talk 14:05, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! I was not able to turn them up in my BEFORE search but I would like to keep the article if we can establish additional sources. Dclemens1971 (talk) 14:50, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There was just a discussion on how series relate to NBOOKS, last month I think, and I believe the general consensus was that a series involving multiple notable books merited an article. Of course, it would then have to list or link to those books, which it currently does not. Jclemens (talk) 16:34, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
From that discussion, actually, I'd say that a series article without individual book articles to link to can be a sensible outcome per WP:PAGEDECIDE when individual books are notable but readers will be better served by series-level coverage. ~ L 🌸 (talk) 17:27, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@LEvalyn @Jclemens Can you share a link to that discussion? I am operating off the WP:NBOOK policy, which does not address series. Dclemens1971 (talk) 17:34, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Dclemens1971 Sure, it's here. Looking more closely, there were a few folks who wanted to treat "large general-topic publisher book series" different from, e.g. Game of Thrones-style series. But if folks are able to turn up NBOOK reviews for a few of the individual books in this particular series, there would at least be a case to be made. ~ L 🌸 (talk) 17:55, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
OK, let's see what comes up. After reading the debate, I'm reluctant to withdraw this nomination on the basis of proposals that have not been adopted as policy; my read of the governing policy would still require WP:GNG to be demonstrated for a series even if individual books are notable. Dclemens1971 (talk) 18:54, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
But each book having it's own article would be mad! Better to have them under one umbrella surely? — Iadmc ♫^talk 18:56, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Given the dearth of reviews I'm not sure how many are notable on their own anyway. Dclemens1971 (talk) 20:13, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Andy Byrd

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Newer article created in March 2024; sourced ok enough, but the information doesn't seem to be related to the subject very much. I can strip away that blatently unrelated information, but I'm not able to find much on this guy to warrant even a stub afterwards. He's got an OK social media following, but doesn't appear to pass WP:GNG. Lindsey40186 (talk) 18:42, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, he doesn't appear to pass WP:GNG. I think it is best to delete this article. Johnmarkdyer (talk) 18:54, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete nn. And I removed massive sections, seconding Lindsey40186's concern. - Altenmann >talk 19:46, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete: I can only find podcasts or various videos about this individual, nothing we can use for notability. Seems that after the non-RS are taken out, we're left with a stub, simply confirming he exists... Nothing for notability. Oaktree b (talk) 20:04, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete I agree with the above editors. This appears to be an easy call to delete, even after the initial edit and cleanup. Go4thProsper (talk) 21:08, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete The main category for this one would be nauthor, but the books do not seem to have had a wide audience (e.g. listed as #30K in the religious and spiritual category on Amazon, #300K in Christianity). One book seems to have an independent publisher ("Destiny Image") but the other (2 volume) seems to be published by the organization Fire and Fragrance which he is associated with. Lamona (talk) 19:55, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Daughters of Mary Immaculate (Chaldean)

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Fails WP:NORG, is dependent upon primary sources and lacks any reliable independent secondary sources. Dan arndt (talk) 15:00, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment Considering this is about an organization, have you done/are you able to research it in Arabic? Spagooder (talk) 17:20, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I’ve searched in Arabic and aside from material published by the order itself I’ve only found material from Chaldean community sources, i.e. not Iraqi national or regional news. From what I can see notability is not established and it would probably make sense to look for a merge target such as Chaldean Catholic Church. Mccapra (talk) 20:49, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Merge per above. Orientls (talk) 15:13, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

St. James Armenian Church

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Unsourced article with no indication of notability. A BEFORE search finds nothing but run-of-the-mill local coverage of the church, and it's not a registered historic building. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 22:08, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep and improve- I think with a bit of time and dedication the article can be improved and expanded. A simple google search yielded 184,000 results. For an almost 100 year old church, they still seem to be quite active on their website and social platforms and they appear to engage with the wider community through planning various events. Archives908 (talk) 13:14, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete The article is about a "church located in Watertown, Massachusetts" but a search shows that there are churches of this name/denomination throughout the US. Were there an article on the denomination (with appropriate sources) this might stand, but I don't see anything that would make this one location on its own worthy of an article. Lamona (talk) 22:45, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Romy Tiongco

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The article does not meet the notability guidelines of WP:POLITICIAN TheNuggeteer (talk) 13:54, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. I think the two programmes on the BBC all about him and the first of these and its report his on him were what led me to start this page and think him notable enough - perhaps via general notability rather than as a politician per se. A political activist, NGO worker and then politician (Msrasnw (talk) 17:25, 7 June 2024 (UTC))[reply]
- Comment - maybe you should find more sources, only 2 out of the 7 sources work.
TheNuggeteer (talk) 00:23, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If there are 2 "working" sources, that should be enough for WP:GNG. Howard the Duck (talk) 05:27, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
One of the sources is a video source which does not work anymore, is one source okay? TheNuggeteer (talk) 05:45, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Our "policy" on this is WP:LINKROT, and it being dead should not be taken against the article, more so if the reference is more than a decade old.

So no, your premise of this article having just one source doesn't hold. Howard the Duck (talk) 07:07, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete I did a WP:BEFORE search outside of the sources in the article and can't find anything which suggests to me that the article passes WP:GNG. The non-working links do not necessarily suggest there was secondary coverage of him, either - the magazine just has a wordpress site and the BBC radio bit is an interview, which are not secondary. SportingFlyer T·C 17:30, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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James Sunter

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Don't see how this individual is notable enough for a page, both in the general sense and in the parameters for which clerics are notable. Much of the article is unreferenced, and some of the sources at the bottom are only brief mentions. One actually focuses on the son of the subject. Leonstojka (talk) 23:48, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep Canon Sunter was arguably the most important incumbent of St Paul's church (now repurposed), the third, and most central, Anglican church in Adelaide. His activities were regularly reported in Adelaide newspapers, rating over 1,000 mentions on Trove, and there may be more to find, as the illustration appears to be taken from an encyclopedia or church history. Doug butler (talk) 21:04, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep - With all due respect to the hard-workings of Wikipedians who insist on adherence to all the Wikipedia dictates ... there's more to it when it comes to spiritual leaders. I've done a great many Hawaii articles on spiritual leaders. The ones that impress me with their Christian walk in life, are not the ones who necessarily made the headlines when alive. It's people like Alice Kahokuoluna and Father Damien who put their own safety aside to care for the helpless leprosy patients. The ones who don't impress me are the spiritual leaders who make the news, and hobnob with legislative leaders. Not to knock Wikipedia guidelines, but people putting their own lives and welfare on the line to serve others, just doesn't seem to arise in Wikipedia guidelines. — Maile (talk) 02:49, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: I tend to agree with the nomination. This is a rather well-sourced biography of a religious person, but I'm not sure what the notability is... He built a school, ministered to the faithful, other routine things. I suppose it would all get reported on at the time, but it's all strictly local news reporting on what the pastor was up to that week. Oaktree b (talk) 03:53, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, a lot of Wikipedia is like that. That's what makes it useful. Doug butler (talk) 04:28, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
What's wrong with this source, which appears to be an extensive full-column long story on his life in a major newspaper? BeanieFan11 (talk) 15:14, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Linked five times in the article. Doug butler (talk) 15:52, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Technical question: when the deletionists have whittled the English WP down to 1 million articles class C and above, or 2 million mid-importance or higher, how much storage space will be saved ? Doug butler (talk) 16:12, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Traders Point Christian Church

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Fails WP:GNG. Only one source is independent and significant. User:Namiba 14:40, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: First hit in Gsearch is their own website, then it's off into un-RS... The article uses primary sources now and I don't find coverage of this church. Having the fastest growing congregation in 2016 isn't terribly notable and the rest isn't helpful for notability. Oaktree b (talk) 15:26, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. There's significant coverage in a book (see Diamond, 2003), as well as in Indianapolis Monthly. The Indy Star coverage available can support facts in the article but doesn't go toward notability because (even though some is in great depth) it's generally coverage of new locations and inclusion in "fastest growing" lists that WP:ORGCRIT excludes. Even so, the Diamond book and Indianapolis Monthly piece should cross the bar. Dclemens1971 (talk) 03:20, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep as per the reliable sources coverage identified above by Dclemen1971, imv Atlantic306 (talk) 18:57, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep Per the two above, but I'd like to see a lot more about the church's history than 'it started in 1834...oh it's a megachurch now' and its history needs to be seriously filled in. Nate • (chatter) 21:44, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Shivaharkaray

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Fails WP:V and WP:RS. As per criteria 6 and 7 of WP:DEL-REASON—it appears this place does not even exist. Completely imaginary! _Jovian ^Eclipse 04:30, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: Not a HOAX, at the least. Saqib (talk) 19:44, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Saqib: This edit from the Hinglaj Mata Temple page by a sockpuppet account predates the Tribune article by years and simply by looking at the lead, I think it is pretty obvious that the author has plagiarized from Wikipedia. I have particularly highlighted that edit because it was the precisely the one establishing for the first time that there are three Shakti Peethas in Pakistan. Older revisions have two. I would also like to make another point that this supposedly revered pilgrimage site not only has absolutely zero visitor accounts in the internet era, but no picture of it is available anywhere. It does not even receive the slightest mention in the books of scholars on Shaktism, who have otherwise produced detailed works on both Hinglaj and Sharada. _Jovian ^Eclipse 21:04, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Jovian Eclipse, But there are Indian RS confirming the existence of three Shakti Peethas in Pakistan, which includes Shivaharkaray such as The New Indian Express, The Economic Times. Plus, there are books that mention it too. You can just do a quick search on Google Books to check it out. — Saqib (talk) 07:15, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Saqib: This is supposed to be a very well-regarded shrine for Pakistani Hindus, for at least a century just as the other Shakti Peethas are. Every source you listed has come into existence after the aforementioned edit on 18 June 2021, which makes it blatantly clear that their reference was nothing other than Wikipedia (the ET article even explicitly says so). The books are all self-published ebooks, not academic works from well-reputed presses. The NIE article refers to a place called Karavipur where the temple is located, and it is again supposed to be near a railway station named Parkai. A quick 5-minute online research will reveal that none of those two exist anywhere in Pakistan. Also note that every "source" is either about the Shakti Peethas in general or about Hinglaj, but none about this temple itself. That also makes it fail WP:N. _Jovian ^Eclipse 09:41, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Maryam Rostampour and Marziyeh Amirizadeh

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Opening this deletion discussion per WP:BLPREQUESTDELETE on the talk page (here). Would love to hear editors' thoughts going forward. GnocchiFan (talk) 22:36, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: I think that Marziyeh Amirizadeh is too notable to delete. Maryam Rostampour is arguably notable as well, despite the fact that Marziyeh Amirizadeh is the only one of the two with continuing coverage. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 01:15, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Comment. Draft:Marziyeh Amirizadeh exists as a draft. Assuming that both women are notable, perhaps Draft:Marziyeh Amirizadeh could be added to article space after any necessary improvements are made, and this article could be moved to Maryam Rostamour-Keller (her current name), thereby preserving the edit history. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 08:37, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: I would urge anyone who comments in this discussion to look on the talk page from (one of) the subject's of the article. GnocchiFan (talk) 16:48, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Split I think it is reasonable to have this specific article deleted. However, I would be open to the thought of having a separate article for Maryam Rostampour if she is notable enough. Marziyeh Amirizadeh on the surface level appears to be a notable figure (I have not done much research into her life though), so I would be more comfortable with having a separate article for her. ❤History Theorist❤ 18:35, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of mosques in Nagorno-Karabakh

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Short list created in 2013 that has no sources that mostly duplicates the info in the better quality List of mosques in Azerbaijan. As an WP:ATD, I'd also support a redirect to the Azerbaijan list. Dan the Animator 04:18, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment You don’t need to bring this to AfD. See WP:BLAR. Mccapra (talk) 08:14, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sometimes you do due to it being contested/likely to contested. An AfD outcome to redirect for example would be a binding consensus.

As to the nom itself, I support a redirect to the Azerbaijan article. Traumnovelle (talk) 08:29, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Redirect to List of mosques in Azerbaijan, per nom. – Epicgenius (talk) 00:11, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect. Agree that you should redirected the article. If that failed then you could AfD. Zakaria ښه راغلاست (talk) 00:24, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ahsan Boxer

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IMO, the subject fails to meet the GNG. This BLP is relying on unreliable sources and I haven't found much in RS either about this subject that could help establish GNG. The BLP primarily focuses on the subject's 2013 arrest but WP:NOTNEWS. Saqib (talk) 10:40, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The creator of this BLP ProudRafidi also seems to have COI. — Saqib (talk) 10:45, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep, Ahsan Boxer is as famous as Muhammad Ali Mirza. If the latter article can stay on Wikipedia, then why not this one? Ahsan was involved in a popular blasphemy case and is currently arrested so he is pretty famous here in Pakistan, especially among the Barelvis and Shia Muslims for a number of controversies. ProudRafidi (talk) 10:51, 14 June 2024 (UTC) Sockstrike ☿ Apaugasma (talk ☉) 21:46, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
ProudRafidi, WP:ATA. — Saqib (talk) 11:24, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I was not aware of that, thanks for telling! I added several WP:RS sources just a few minutes ago such as the Iran-based ABNA, official press of Majlis Wahdat-e-Muslimeen and Islam Times etc. to the article. The subject is quite notable in Pakistani religious circles and i'm hoping to add more WP:RS here. Thanks! ProudRafidi (talk) 20:07, 14 June 2024 (UTC) Sockstrike ☿ Apaugasma (talk ☉) 21:46, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
ProudRafidi, Thanks but to make things easier for me and others, why don't you provide some coverage here that you believe sufficiently establishes GNG? — Saqib (talk) 22:11, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete Article is created by LTA Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/SheryOfficial, who has been at this for 5 years. --HistoryofIran (talk) 20:19, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per WP:G5. ☿ Apaugasma (talk ☉) 21:46, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as author is CU blocked as a sock so G5 applies here. Toadette^Edit! 17:40, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: per WP:G5, also failed WP:GNG. Youknowwhoistheman (talk) 15:33, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of mosques

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Merge request at Talk:Lists of mosques#Merge proposal that did not seek to merge any content. Their rationale implies that the content is not worthy of being merged, so it is within the scope of AfD.

List of mosques serves no useful purpose. It's clearly too vague to ever be a viable list article per WP:SALAT (e.g. there's no List of church buildings either, as far as I can see). This is a function accomplished by Category:Mosques. The list has no proper inclusion criteria: the lead states "some of the more famous mosques", but that's obviously unhelpful, there's little about the current list that suggests the additions are being limited to "famous" mosques, and even if we tried to enforce such a criteria it would inevitably be an unclear POV mess; anything can be "famous" from a certain POV, and "notable" would by definition include every Wikipedia mosque article (which, again, is what categories are for). There are of course almost no sources in that article either, despite the many additional claims inserted into the list. All of this makes it incompatible with the guidelines outlined at WP:STANDALONE. The only useful version of this would be an article that links to more precise lists of mosques. This already exists here at Lists of mosques (notwithstanding some needed improvements). Two articles with such similar titles are also likely to cause confusion and they already look like WP:CONTENTFORKs of each other. Therefore, List of mosques should simply redirect here.
— User:R Prazeres 17:03, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

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Delete or redirect per the above. Indeed I only proposed as merge because I thought a blank-and-redirect would fall under that type of proposal, but deleting (with or without redirect) addresses the problem too. R Prazeres (talk) 00:51, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

~~Keep~~ This can survive, and quite possibly should, as a list-of-lists, assuming someone wants to make sub-lists, say for per-nation mosque lists, which can in turn be lists of per-province mosque lists. Absent that, a comprehensive list in one file doesn't seem to be terribly useful or maintainable. Jclemens (talk) 00:59, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If I understand you correctly, is that not what Lists of mosques is? (That was the context of the original merge proposal copied above.) R Prazeres (talk) 01:02, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Indeed. I appear to have missed the hatnote. Carry on. Jclemens (talk) 01:22, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No worries, easy to miss! R Prazeres (talk) 01:23, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete I got confused by the similar titles but while lists of mosques is a navigational list this one isn't. Traumnovelle (talk) 02:12, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep One of the most spurious nominations I've ever seen, to be honest. Category:Lists of religious building lists even has a container category for these sorts of pages, and the See Also section functions similarly to other pages in that category. This is really a speedy keep in my book - deleting this is completely non-sensical. SportingFlyer T·C 05:39, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to Lists of mosques. Upon further review, this article and that article are functional duplicates. I did not read the entirety of the nomination statement, which I thought was making an incorrect argument that mosques should be categorised instead, and that we were deleting the master article. SportingFlyer T·C 05:45, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect. It seems pretty uncontroversial that the two articles should simply be merged using Lists of mosques as the title, which appears has been largely done already. Ajf773 (talk) 10:49, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge or redirect to Lists of mosques per the above. I would have supported a straight redirect if the Lists article didn't list some individual mosques as well, but there indeed are individual mosques listed on the Lists article. – Epicgenius (talk) 17:52, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect is the most suitable option. ScriptKKiddie (talk) 16:50, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Expectations from the Muslim Woman

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A lecture that I can't find non-passing coverage of. What sources do exist don't really seem to be discussing this specific lecture, but mentioning it in context for Ali Shariati's views on women and Islam. There is a language barrier however so I could be missing something. If not, redirect to Shariati's biography. PARAKANYAA (talk) 11:58, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge with Ali Shariati Oaktree b (talk) 14:24, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Muhammad Abdul Malek

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Not a single source used in this article is reliable which can establish notability of the person. - AlbeitPK (talk) 18:55, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Others

See Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2019 July 11#Category:New Christians (conversos), proposed renaming of Category:New Christians (conversos) to either: ALT1 Category:New Christians (conversos) to Category:New Christians (moriscos and conversos) or ALT2 Category:New Christians (conversos) to Category:New Christians (Iberia)

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Holocaust Encyclopedia

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Doesn't pass GNG. There is supposedly one review(?) of this on JSTOR from "Reference & User Services Quarterly" but it was being odd and wouldn't show it to me. Even then, not enough. Redirect/merge to United States Holocaust Memorial Museum?

FWIW this is not about the book The Holocaust Encyclopedia, which is notable but we don't have an article on it. This is about the USHMM online resource. PARAKANYAA (talk) 11:46, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge: to the Museum as suggested seems fine. This is basically an extension of the collections housed by the Museum. Oaktree b (talk) 14:26, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Merge as proposed. Part of the museum and can easily be covered within. Star Mississippi 02:53, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Camp Amal

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Redirect to Habonim Dror, merging what's encyclopedic. Fails WP:NORG with no WP:SIGCOV for an otherwise non-notable summer camp. Both sources provided are WP:SPS and do not support WP:GNG. Longhornsg (talk) 08:45, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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'Redirect - Agree here also MaskedSinger (talk) 08:23, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Sikhism

G. B. Singh

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Non-notable individual. Fails WP:NAUTHOR and WP:GNG. Ratnahastin (talk) 16:53, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Non-notable. No sources provide him any biographical coverage. CharlesWain (talk) 04:09, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Fails WP:GNG. Only mentioned in passing over 2 non-notable books. Orientls (talk) 16:57, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]