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Happy holidays edit

 
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Hi WomenArtistUpdates, May you have a bright and beautiful holiday season. Thank you for your work on the encyclopedia, and in particular, women artists.
Have a happy and healthy 2022!

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January 2022 Women in Red edit

 
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Thank you edit

  Contest organiser extraordinaire
Thank you for organising the Oceania contest for Women in Red. It was fun seeing the list of new bios grow each month. You certainly deserve this recognition of your work. Oronsay (talk) 02:19, 1 January 2022 (UTC)
  • Thank you so much Oronsay! I am working on the stats for Oceania and hope to have a look at the entire Continental Challenge sometime tomorrow. WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 02:40, 1 January 2022 (UTC)

Alice Clary Earle Hyde edit

Hey there! I just wanted to ask if you had the source for Alice Clary Earle Hyde's date of birth? The current NYT ref in the article doesn't mention it. (I assume the source was just mistakenly left off that sentence, so I thought I'd ask).

Also, I hope you're having a happy new year so far :) - Whisperjanes (talk) 08:12, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

Hi Whisperjanes, You are correct, the NYT just lists her place of birth. I got the date of birth from wikidata, which lists familysearch.org as the reference for the exact birthday. AskArt and the American Antiquarian Society lists the year (1876). Shall I revise the article to just have the birth year? Thanks for the catch...so embarrassing for me. And thanks for the new year salutations. So far, so good. Best, WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 02:24, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
No need to be embarrassed! Happens to the best of us. And I'm glad your new year is going well so far.
I went ahead and took a look at Family Search and Ancestry.com records. Most of the records only specify her age (especially in Census data), with the estimated date of birth being 1876. I could only find one record that gave an exact date, year or otherwise:
"New York Passenger Arrival Lists (Ellis Island), 1892-1924". 1913. p. 2. Retrieved 7 January 2022 – via FamilySearch.
It lists her (Alice Hyde) and her husband (Clarence Hyde, which is verified in the NYTimes ref), and a daughter. Her birth here is listed as April 15th, 1876 in Brooklyn, New York. A 1925 NY Census for "Alice Earle Hyde" also further verifies it's her - both records have the same street address (242 Henry Street), husband, and daughter.
Maybe the original Wikidata source was a mistype? I'm looking at the original FamilySearch ref on Wikidata now, and I don't see a date of birth on the source. Either way, if you feel comfortable with the above source, I think you could probably include the full date of birth or just the year. Just up to you. - Whisperjanes (talk) 05:17, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
Hi Whisperjanes, I revised it to just the birth year. I think the April date os too iffy. I added the two birth year citations to wikidata. I sure would like to see the entire range of charts created by Hyde. BTW, her obituary lists her membership in the New England Wildflower Preservation Society. Is there anyway we can assume they meant the New england wild flower society? The dates seem right. Best, WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 17:15, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
Sounds good! I personally wish I could see her Colonial Folk Arts and Customs Pertaining to Plants exhibit... it sounds completely up my alley.
Also, I think it's safe to say that they're the same society. The New england wild flower society's old website mentions they used to be called the "Society for the Protection of Native Plants", and this clipping (paragraph 2) states they were reformed into the "New England Wild Flower Preservation Society". They were also both based in Boston (the New England Wild Flower Society's website mentions it was started in Boston, and it wasn't until 1968 that it was headquartered in Framingham; and the Hyde New York Times obit states the Preservation Society was in Boston). - Whisperjanes (talk) 15:18, 10 January 2022 (UTC)

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February with Women in Red edit

 
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Catherine Hillis edit

Your edit summary at Catherine Hillis isn't all that helpful. What do you think the article needs to show notability? SL93 (talk) 19:37, 4 February 2022 (UTC)

Hi SL93, The search I did brings up Hillis's own site, then various interviews at art guilds of which she is a member, then to the places where she has taught workshops. No doubt she is making a living as an artist and is active in the regional watercolor groups, but I don't think it elevates her to notable. I think the statement in the lede "has won over 100 awards" was not referenced in the body of the work and bordered on peacock. Generally a living artist needs to be in a notable collection or major show to be eligible for an article. I hope that clarifies why I tagged the article for notability. Best, WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 21:20, 4 February 2022 (UTC)

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March editathons edit

 
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Barnstars edit

Thank you for creating the Barnstars for month 1 of the Translation Contest. They look terrific.--Oronsay (talk) 01:57, 22 March 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for the kind words Oronsay! I am glad you like. I hope we get a good response to the contest. My only language is English, so I am completely unqualified to participate. As I mentioned on the ideas page, I hope to report out each month, to try to build momentum and discussion.
And thank you for working on the month-to-month WiR organizational tasks. Best, WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 16:24, 22 March 2022 (UTC)

April Editathons from Women in Red edit

 
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May 2022 at Women in Red edit

 
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Thanks edit

@WomenArtistUpdates I'm so happy to have come across your profile and clicked on the links on your user page. In my short few weeks of paying actual attention to things around here I had already noticed there's so much work do be done about rectifying glaring omissions when it comes to Female artists and designers. SleepyWhippet (talk) 20:40, 22 May 2022 (UTC)

Thanks SleepyWhippet. I am glad you found the links useful! I enjoyed learning about Faye Toogood. I was unfamiliar with the roly-poly chair. Looks good, but actually doesn't look comfortable. Have you ever seen one IRL? Congratulations on probably surviving an AFD! Biographies of living people (BLPs) fall under intense scrutiny. You probably noticed it was the addition to article showing the artist being part of established collections (Netherzone's additions) that established notability. Happy editing. Looking forward to seeing more. Best, WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 00:51, 24 May 2022 (UTC)
@WomenArtistUpdates I have actually sat on Roly Poly Chairs on a few occasions, they are surprisingly comfortable despite the looks! Because the shape and the "pitch" are really well designed -- but also, they do come in a cushioned option! :)
Yes, I have definitely noticed the added scrutiny for BLP, but what I wasn't prepared for just how much more difficult it is if the subject happens to be a woman! There's definitely a double standard -- in this process of trying to start the article for Faye Toogood and another for Jessica Corr, I came across the Wikipedia article on a contemporary of theirs, Stephen Burks, who in fact used to write about them in well known publications back in the day -- and it's sort of mind boggling to me that his article seems to have been approved with the references it has while theirs kept on getting rejected with much more well known citations (not that I question his basic notability at all, he is indeed a great designer). Not to mention, my personal experience on the other two pages I had started years ago.
I can't chuck it up to anything else but gender... and I'm still stuck with the draft for Jessica Corr, unsure of how to proceed because I have already fixed everything they said to the best of my abilities. Anyway, onward! SleepyWhippet (talk) 02:34, 24 May 2022 (UTC)
I am going to respectful disagree with you SleepyWhippet. The article on Stephen Burks could have been better written and I've worked on it a bit, but there is no doubt the guy is notable. Jessica Corr, I am not so sure. Some problems that I see are that you have added a lot of jargon that doesn't seem encyclopedic. For example "The interdisciplinary structure of Collaborative as a collective (compromised of artists, and designers of various fields) as well as the speculative nature of the work was also noted and catalogued by design galleries and publications Surface, ID, and Graphis." doesn't add any value to the article. The section on academia doesn't inform either. It looks like there is no mention of her connection to Tourmaline. If you are going to include Collaborative why not her relationship to Tourmaline? I searched around and found no basic biographical information DoB, graduation year, degree etc. She doesn't appear to be in any significant collections, even though she has won a couple of prizes. BLPs are really not my thing, but I would suggest you try to write a chronological account of her career (removing the technical reason of why that is important) and see what you wind up with. I couldn't figure out which year she won the honorable mention at the International Design Awards. Maybe remove the blah blah about her teaching career. That is just a description of anyone doing their job, nothing outstanding there. I still think you might run into a WP:TOOSOON for her. But in my opinion it is not gender discrimination.
Also, I would suggest you look around at the AFDs for artists so you can see all the articles about living men and women that are scrutinized. Bookmark the page to get an idea of what's going on there. Best, WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 21:39, 24 May 2022 (UTC)
@WomenArtistUpdates First off, I just want to thank you for actually taking the time to examine the things I'm referencing thoughtfully, to give me a holistic response! This is what I'd imagined collaborating with and learning from other Wikipedians would be like when I first decided to start contributing more here.
I wholeheartedly agree that Stephen Brukes is notable, as I said earlier, he's an incredible designer and thinker. I was specifically just comparing the references on his wikipedia article (which used to be few and included schools and organizations he's been directly affiliated with), vs. for example, being told interview segments cast doubt on the independence of NYTimes, CNN, etc for Faye Toogood -- side by side, struck me as very inconsistent.
With regards to Jessica Corr, I think you're absolutely right that perhaps the best course of action would be to go back to square one, make chronological outline, and start over basically. What you see right now is a bastardization of my many attempts to figure out how to respond to various piecemeal concerns. Hence why I was feeling stuck with it. So I am going to take your advice and give that a go one more time before I give up. I included Collaborative specifically, because I remember being a young designer in early 2000s and reading about it/seeing the work everywhere, to me as someone who's been in this field, that's the most interesting part of her career which made me aware of her (and got her into Cooper Hewitt etc). I was able to pull a fair amount of printed references from early 2000's, but I was told I'm not allowed to scan them to add here due to copyright reasons. And sadly, they predate everything being replicated online. Perhaps there's a work around that I'm not aware of because they're well known publications. But as it is, I'm not sure if hers is a case of "Too Soon", or "Too Late"...
I definitely need to improve my understanding of the guidelines here, and learn how to write in an encyclopedic fashion, that much is very clear to me, because I even failed to get a stub approved for the largest design fair that happens in NYC every year!
Thanks again for your helpful advice. SleepyWhippet (talk) 23:43, 24 May 2022 (UTC)
Greetings from a friendly talk page stalker. @SleepyWhippet, I read thru the Jessica Corr draft a couple days ago, and had similar observations as WomenArtistUpdates. Probably TOOSOON at this time unless in-depth significant coverage in reliable sources can be found (to meet WP:GNG), or museum collections( to meet WP:NARTIST). I'm surprised she is not in the Cooper Hewitt collection. Try searching design museum collections to see if anything comes up. Re: printed sources that are not online...are you subscribed to the Wikipedia:Library? If so you can apply for Newspapers.com and NewspaperArchive access. Also JSTOR, Oxford/Benezit, etc. If not, I highly recommend checking out our library. Netherzone (talk) 01:39, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
Hello @Netherzone :) and thank you for your suggestions. I had tried to sign into Wikipedia Library, but turned out that I needed more edits/contributions in order to qualify for it.., should be getting there soon tho! In the meantime, I will check out the other resources you'd mentioned. Perhaps I'd felt a little browbeaten and lost my mojo to actually do a proper "dig" and get organized. But I feel much more motivated now, I will give it another go in the next couple of weeks -- I do think she's definitely notable and her contribution to the field of design is important/worthy of documentation -- but I also don't want to be insistent/obsessive... there's so much other work to be done around here! SleepyWhippet (talk) 05:11, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

June events from Women in Red edit

 
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Event barnstar for new Women in Green editathon? edit

Hello WomenArtistUpdates -- I hope your year is going well! Women in Green is hosting another GA editathon event next month, and I'm currently working on pulling together the logistics. Would you be available to help create a new event barnstar for us over the next few weeks? This upcoming editathon will have a theme of "women and the environment," and a barnstar design could be similar or different to last October's design (open to new ideas). Let me know what you think, Alanna the Brave (talk) 23:59, 21 June 2022 (UTC)

Hi Alanna the Brave, Yes I think I can help. I looked through my files and found the psd's for WiG2021. Climate is the year long initiative at WiR. Please take a look at that logo as well. My recollection from 2021 is that you had a pretty clear idea of what you wanted and it was just a few back-and-forths to get a consensus. Let me know what the group would like. Also, we/I can add it to the WiR announcement that goes out for July. Best, WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 01:13, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
Hi Alanna the Brave and SusunW, draft logo uplaoded to commons and Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Green/Meetup/2. Keep me in the loop. Comments welcome. Easy to tweak, though I am not online consistently during the week. 19:12, 23 June 2022 (UTC)WomenArtistUpdates (talk)
Looks good to me. Thank you so much for your help WomenArtistUpdates SusunW (talk) 19:26, 23 June 2022 (UTC)
Thanks WomenArtistUpdates! Much appreciated. :-) I have the beginnings of an idea for a different design, but my brain is tired and a bit too frazzled for creative work this week (maybe we can discuss for future WiG events?). I think your draft design will be perfect for July's event. Best, Alanna the Brave (talk) 22:44, 23 June 2022 (UTC)
sure Alanna the Brave. I know just what you mean about frazzle. I'll update the barnstar. Thanks for the thumbs up SusunW. Always happy to work with Women in Green. Best,WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 00:21, 24 June 2022 (UTC)

National Serigraph Society edit

Hello. Regarding edit of National Serigraph Society, please note that in the Anthony Velonis Smithsonian interview he refers to Hyman Warsager and others as starting the Society with him. I hope this is sufficient sourcing and if not, I apologize and I understand that my edit may be removed. Thank you. Randy Warsager userRwarsager Rwarsager (talk) 19:24, 24 June 2022 (UTC)

Women in Red in July 2022 edit

 
Women in Red July 2022, Vol 8, Issue 7, Nos 214, 217, 234, 235


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August Member edit

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Pleased to recognise you as an honorary August Member of the comedic order of red women for the whole of next month. We hopefully will reduce this list of comedians and your help has been invaluable. Thank you! Victuallers (talk) 09:33, 26 July 2022 (UTC)

Women in Red August 2022 edit

 
Women in Red August 2022, Vol 8, Issue 8, Nos 214, 217, 236, 237, 238, 239


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Contest to attract more new articles on WiR edit

Hi there, WomenArtistUpdates. I though it would be useful to discuss with you (as our Contest Organizer Extraordinaire) the general idea of using the #1day1woman approach as a basis for a contest. You will have seen our discussions on Rosie's talk page on the need to revive interest in article creation. As so many of our contributors post their new articles on #1day1woman, I thought that by giving them some concrete recognition in the form of barnstars and awards, we might be able to improve our statistics and generally create more interest in Women in Red.

What I have in mind is a contest open to all which could provide incentives on the following basis:

  • recognition for any editor contributing five new articles in a given month to #1day1woman
  • ditto for 10, 20 and 30 articles
  • special award for editors contributing one new article per day for each day of the month (30 if we do it in September).

If it is successful, we could possibly repeat the contest in October and November along the same lines.

I would really like to hear what you think about this and find out if you have any ideas about how we could improve its success. If we can get things moving along quickly enough, we could sensitize other relevant wikiprojects ahead of our normal invitation so that they could start preparations, etc. We might also be able to attract attention via the social networks. I look forward to your reactions.--Ipigott (talk) 12:18, 7 August 2022 (UTC)

Hi Ipigott, I have read through the discussion on Rosie's talk page (which has really expanded since this morning) and your request here. I have been mulling it over and three things come to mind
  • Events with barnstars are a great way to encourage editors. It's just nice to get one, especially when an editor is starting out. Specifically for WiR, it brings people back to our events and suite of pages.
  • I think it would be best to put this ahead in the calendar, perhaps January 2023. September is Writers, October is STEM, and then participation seems to drop off through November and December. By January we will be half way through the Alphabet Run and we will have an idea of how well that is attracting activity. At the moment it seems to be seeing more listings than 1Day, but it early days.
  • If we do a goal-oriented event/contest around 1Day, we really should move to the Fountain tool like Gamaliel uses for their Wikipedia:100 DC Women event. The tool runs a quick check on characters and confirms the article is in the main space. The tool also tracks number of articles. This would remove any whiff of partisanship/ double counting etc.
So, in a nutshell, yes I think a barnstar event is a good idea to attract and keep new editors. I think if we wait until January 2023 we'll have time to learn the technical needs for getting an event on the Fountain tool. If we use the Fountain tool we'll have a nice clean running tally of articles, with a much smaller chance of human error. Best, WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 01:15, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
Thanks for your quick reactions and your sensible new proposals. Careful forward planning is always a good thing. You are quite right that Writers and STEM are among our most successful annual events. I'm not sure January would be the best month for starting as it might be difficult to attract attention during the Christmas and New Year period, especially if we want to sensitize other wikiprojects and spread publicity over the social networks. As you point out, November and December are months when participation seems to drop off. Maybe we could announce the contest in mid October and start on 1 November. During the winter months, editors in the northern hemisphere spend more time at home when they can be active on Wikipedia. I also feel it is important to take some kind of action which can be reflected in our annual statistics. The Alphabet Run and #1day1woman have much in common as they both allow editors to work on the areas in which they are particularly interested. Our contest could carry a completely new name, if possible something really attractive such as "Going for More Women" or "Fighting the Wiki Gender Gap" (just initial suggestions), together with new WiR images which you are so good at creating. It would be interesting to hear from Gamaliel exactly how the Fountain tool works but if it has been successful in DC contests, it looks as if we could make good use of it too. The rules for the DC contest look as if they could be used for our contest too. Articles of at least 200 words could be our target too.--Ipigott (talk) 06:31, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
I'd be glad to set up Fountain or assist other users with it for any WiR events. It's very easy to use. Gamaliel (talk) 14:11, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
Thank you Gamaliel! Delighted to hear it is very easy to use :) We will for sure be in touch as things progress. WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 15:34, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
Hi Ipigott, Counter offer of November 2022 sounds good :) As it happens, November 2022 will be the 5th anniversary of the ground-breaking Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/The World Contest. I will be spending the day thinking about it, but it does sound do-able. Just wnated to ping you to let you know I have read your message. WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 15:38, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
Those were the good old days when Dr. Blofeld helped us along so much. Maybe he has ideas about organizing this too?--Ipigott (talk) 15:52, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
If the grants team, particularly Marti Johnson, got their act together we could have had ten women's world contests by now... ♦ Dr. Blofeld 17:05, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
Hi Ipigott, Been thinking about the contest and I think we should do it (especially as Gamaliel assures us that they can teach or set up the Fountain tool). I do have a concern about the "special award" for "one new article per day for each day of the month". I would not know how to track that. I suggest we leave that off. We might want to commit to the contest running for November and December, resetting the counter at the end of November. We could then distribute the November round of barnstars and generate some additional friendly competition for December and also be distributing a second round of barnstars at the end of the year. What do you think if naming it WikiProject Women in Red | The World Contest 2022
Shall we move the conversion over to the ideas page? WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 00:15, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
In regard to the one-woman-a-day award, I mentioned it because I know several of our contributors have successfully followed this approach. If you think it would be difficult to monitor, then we could simply mention that the 30 article award matches an average of one new article a day. For this contest, I think we should avoid awards for the maximum number of articles (i.e. more than 30 a month) as the same people always seem to be ready to compete. Our overall aim should be to encourage as many contributors as possible to take part. I fully agree to your suggestions for November and December and the allocation of barnstars and am happy to see Gamaliel will assist by installing the tool. I had hesitated putting anything on the ideas page before discussing the general concept on Rosie's talk page and here but I agree that it would now be useful to post something there and mention our discussions on the main WiR talk page. I'll take care of this today. We can then take account of any reactions but the general approach now seems very sound to me. Naming it "World Contest 2022" would certainly have a ring to it but let's see if there are other suggestions. Thanks for all the careful attention you have been giving to this and for volunteering to help with the organization.--Ipigott (talk) 06:09, 9 August 2022 (UTC)

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Advice in a subtask: Women Electronic Literature Writers? edit

Hi, we are starting a new project to edit women electronic writer information in wikipedia and wikidata and I would love to get your insights and experiences as we step up to the plate. What issues have you run into when corralling newbies to identify and update women writers? What things do you wish you had done differently? What are good ways to start?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Women_writers/Women_electronic_literature_writers

Thank you! LoveElectronicLiterature (talk) 21:06, 5 September 2022 (UTC)

Hi LoveElectronicLiterature. I think the page you directed me to looks very complete. I don't know much about Electronic Literature. A couple of things come to mind - First, you will be creating articles mostly for living people in a niche area. What would be reliable sources for this topic? BLPs are the hardest topic to write about. I certainly am hesitant to write about living artist without them being included in a known collection like MoMA or the Whitney. What's the equivalent type notability for Electronic Literature? The second thing that comes to mind is that most of your editors will be writing on their phone or mobile devices. The mobile wiki interface is so less robust than the regular wiki interface. So much functionality is lost. However, I think there are use groups just for mobile editors. That group might be very interested in Electronic Literature.
I started a conversation on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Women writers/Women electronic literature writers asking for suggestion for an image to be included in a template. I am happy to help with that if you are looking for someone with some basic Photoshop experience. Best, WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 01:24, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
Thank you WomenArtistUpdates. Yes, this is the tip of a very big project. We have identified about 400 women electronic literature writers who should at least be in the wikidata base and many are notable enough in their field to have articles about them. and many are BLPs, with a few deceased. Most of the writers/artists have been in known collections, or have had peer reviewed published criticism, which would be the equivalent in electronic literature. We have many publications from universities, etc.
Most of our writers are university professors, who would be writing and using a computer. I myself have three monitors and the computer, so physical writing spaces won't be a problem.
We are meeting on Thursday Sept 15 to start with and introduce the project. One "low-hanging fruit" problem we can address quickly is that electronic literature has a huge visual component. Most pieces rely on art, virtual reality, etc. Even the simplest have some visual element. So our group of expert electronic literature writers, critics, and professors will be combing their archives for representative screenshots and will provide explanations of why these are representative--what the rhetorical cues and meaning are in the visual screenshot. So after Thursday, we will have images for the template discussion. We do need to be careful to ensure that the images we choose are within Creative Commons licenses, as these works are published. We will get authors' permissions before uploading. LoveElectronicLiterature (talk) 13:34, 9 September 2022 (UTC)

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October GA Editathon - barnstar update? edit

 
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Hello again! I hope your week is going well. :-) Women in Green is organizing one more GA Editathon event for 2022, happening throughout the month of October. Would you have time to draft a barnstar for this event? We're going for a "Wildcard Edition" theme this time, encouraging participants to work on any and all article topics around women. The same format/design as before would be totally fine. Best, Alanna the Brave (talk) 18:38, 18 September 2022 (UTC)

Hi Alanna the Brave, Yes can make you a barnstar and logo. Please confirm that I should replace the text "July 2022 - Women and the Environment" with "October 2022 - Wildcard Edition". Best, WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 20:54, 18 September 2022 (UTC)
That would be perfect, yes -- text changes confirmed! Alanna the Brave (talk) 21:34, 18 September 2022 (UTC)
Alanna the Brave Here you go. Tweaks are easy-peasy if you or Susan have suggestions. WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 22:46, 18 September 2022 (UTC)
Thank you! I can't think of any immediate tweaks -- any thoughts SusunW? Next year I'll try to throw the question out to other Women in Green members further in advance and see if they have suggestions (this year it's been a bit of a scramble). Alanna the Brave (talk) 23:14, 18 September 2022 (UTC)
I think it looks great. SusunW (talk) 01:14, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
Thanks WomenArtistUpdates -- we're good to go. :-) Alanna the Brave (talk) 17:12, 19 September 2022 (UTC)

Article on Minna Citron edit

Hi. Here is an art history thesis that might interest you. I hope this reaches the editor I've been communicating with about the Hyman Warsager article. I see that there is a journal article by the same author in footnote 6 of the Minna Citron Wikipedia article. Citron was certainly prescient in her thinking.

Best regards!

https://etda.libraries.psu.edu/files/final_submissions/2805 Rwarsager (talk) 00:22, 27 September 2022 (UTC)

Rwarsager, Thanks. You posted to right place! DYK that her image is included in the iconic 1972 poster Some Living American Women Artists? WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 22:57, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
I did not know that. That is absolutely cool! I love it. Thanks. Rwarsager (talk) 00:20, 28 September 2022 (UTC)

Elizabeth Olds: Gender Difference and Indifference edit

Hi. I think you might find this article about Elizabeth Olds to be interesting. I hope the link works. If not, just let me know and I'll try something else. Olds was one of the original team members of the WPA graphic division and she was the first one actually to do a silkscreen for the project, followed by the other members. Best regards.

https://www.jstor.org/stable/1358896?origin=crossref?origin=crossref Elizabeth Olds: Gender Difference and Indifference

JOURNAL ARTICLE


Helen Langa

Vol. 22, No. 2 (Autumn, 2001 - Winter, 2002), pp. 5-11 (8 pages)

Published by: Woman's Art Inc. Rwarsager (talk) 00:22, 29 September 2022 (UTC)

Thanks Rwarsager, Downloaded for future reading. I really like the screenprint of the "Picasso Study Group" at the end of the article in the color section. Best, WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 00:33, 30 September 2022 (UTC)
That is an amazing print. I love her work. I hope you enjoy the article.
I'm happy to know that the earlier article was of value. All the best! Rwarsager (talk) 02:05, 1 October 2022 (UTC)
Hi there. I just came across this article on Art Daily and I wanted to share it. I don't know if you saw my meandering post a few weeks ago on my talk page about the women Surrealist artists I admire. One of them is Leonora Carrington and this article is about an exhibit of her work in Denmark. A quote from the article:
"Leonora Carrington was one of Surrealism's key figures. She rebelled against power hierarchies and conventions with a magical universe filled with humour, witchcraft and spirit, yet she remained an overlooked figure in art history." I will not be able to see this exhibit but I sure wish I could.
There is a long and interesting Wikipedia article on her.
Cheers.
https://artdaily.cc/news/150424/ARKEN-Museum-of-Modern-Art-opens-the-first-major-Leonora-Carrington-exhibition-in-Scandinavia#.Yzl03i-B2IE Rwarsager (talk) 11:36, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

Women in Red October 2022 edit

 
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Women Artists - WPA edit

Hello. I hope you're well. I've been adding some content to the articles on Elizabeth Olds, Riva Helfond, and Ruth Chaney (as well as Harry Gottlieb, Harry Sternberg, Louis Lozowick). Particularly useful has been the excellent but fragile little 1941 journal I have, The Print Collector's Quarterly, with a seminal article by the curator Carl Zigrosser. I will also add some museums to the list of museums holding these artists' work. Other women artists he mentioned but did not include details about are Ruth Gikow, Florence Kent, Nan Lurie, Clara Mahl, Beatrice Mandelman, Mildred Rackley, Irene Rice Pereira, Ruth Starr Rose, Mary Schuster, Helen Blumenschein, Gladys Lux, Bernece Berkman, Gertrude Goodrich, Hannah Harari, Doris Meltzer, Sylvia Wald, Carol Weinstock, Lottie Meyer Cat, Pauline Stirs. Doing a quick search I see that some of these artists are the subject of Wikipedia articles (in some cases, substantial articles; in other cases, quite minimal) but others are not included. I do not know at this point what degree of notability most of them may possess. I thought you might like to see these names in case any are of interest to you in your ongoing work. All the best! Rwarsager (talk) 21:12, 13 October 2022 (UTC)

Thanks Rwarsager! So many became members of the National Serigraph Society and some names I am unfamiliar with. I look forward to tackling this. I just finished a short article on WPA artist Beatrice Cuming. Isn't that photo of her beautiful? Best WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 00:44, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
You're very welcome. I like your article on Beatrice Cuming and that photo is definitely lovely and classic. She did some interesting traveling. The only names that I recognized in this group are Irene Rice Pereira, Sylvia Wald and Doris Meltzer. I've encountered a painting of Irene Rice Pereira's at the Philadelphia Museum of Art that I love. This one:https://philamuseum.org/collection/object/316901. She was interesting as well. I look forward to learning about all these artists. Best regards. Rwarsager (talk) 02:17, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
Hi again. I missed this article when it appeared last week but came across it just now. Thought you might find it interesting in terms of the ongoing work you do. If the link doesn't work just let me know and I'll re-send. (I tried to insert a PDF of the article here but could not manage it). Best regards.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/09/arts/frieze-spotlight-women-artists.html Rwarsager (talk) 00:46, 15 October 2022 (UTC)

Hi. This 2011 exhibit reviewed in The NY Times included a beautiful painting by Beatrice Coming.

https://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/09/nyregion/09artct.html

Best regards.

rwarsager Rwarsager (talk) 22:49, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

Thanks Rwarsager! Just catching up on my reading this evening. I can log onto the NYT through the library. Both links worked. The photo of the Beatrice Cuming painting wasn't as clear as I would have like. Alas, I will just have to go to New Britton to look at their collection.
The article on Frieze and AWARE was interesting too. Especially the factoid "at this year’s Venice Biennale...Artistic Director Cecilia Alemani put on a central exhibition that was composed of roughly 90 percent women artists". The AWARE database is very helpful, especially now that NMWA has abandoned their CLARA database. Sorry to say I don't have any intelligence to trade. Best, WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 00:45, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
hi! You’re very welcome.
That is definitely an interesting and welcome factoid about the Venice Biennale.
You might find this interesting when you get a chance. I’ve long admired the paintings of Joan Mitchell and sensed she didn’t get fully the credit she truly deserved, though she is very well regarded. This article highlights her annoyance on the occasions that her work was  compared to Monet. On one hand, that is a compliment for anyone, I suppose, but on the other she wanted to stand on her own, like most artists do.  Ironically, there is this exhibit putting her work literally side-by-side with Monet’s work. I can’t help wondering if this would be done, since her dislike for this comparison was a matter of record,  if she had been a male artist. Maybe, I don’t know. There are perhaps examples of this kind of exhibit happening with others. I just wonder. The article notes her move to France, where she lived for many years until her death, not far from where Monet painted.
From the article: “The two “Monet-Mitchell” exhibitions at the Fondation Vuitton in Paris coincide with the 30th anniversary of her death. They are milestones in other ways, too: She is being presented with Monet — the artist she so resented being associated with — and she is finally being recognized as a painter of great importance who was long undervalued because of her gender, both in her lifetime and after her death.
Siegel said Mitchell was “one of the very greatest artists of her generation,” on par with Willem de Kooning and Jackson Pollock, but added that “being a woman kept her from being assessed accurately and fairly.”
Peers acknowledged her “as being a really good painter,” and “dealers showed her work,” Siegel added. And yet her work “was never seen as quite as high on the ranking list as it should have been.”
https://artdaily.cc/news/150977/A-pioneering-artist-and-her-nemesis--side-by-side#.Y1Khpy-B3VA
On a totally un-related note:  I attended a small college in NJ for a few years (1970-71) before transferring to a school in NYC and at the small college there was a wonderful art teacher with the unforgettable name of Kay WalkingStick. Just a few years ago I stumbled across a painting she had in the Whitney. There is a long Wikipedia article about her and she’s very interesting. It was an exciting coincidence coming across her work so many years later. I emailed her and she was friendly and very pleasant to speak with. You might find her work interesting.
Best regards! Rwarsager (talk) 14:07, 21 October 2022 (UTC)

A barnstar for you! edit

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Question edit

Hi, WomenArtistUpdates. I have added information to the article you and I have talked about (Hyman J. Warsager) and I have some more I'd like to add. As long as I have good sourcing and neutral language, is it fine to keep adding to the article, within reason, of course?

I've also been adding some content to articles on various other artists and providing sources to museum collections where it is missing. I also have some potentially interesting content to add to the article on the WPA's legacy in later artists using techniques taught by the WPA team. The books and other resources I've been accumulating have quite a lot of information that could enrich articles on various artists and related topics.

I would like to draw on this material -- all published and publicly available books, journal articles, good websites -- and I'd like to add several more sections to the Hyman J. Warsager article: (1) On the artist's anti-lynching and anti-fascism illustrations for political magazines in the 1930's. (2) A variety of images of his work in accordance with the regulations governing the uploading of images. (3) Some comments on his work by curators, art historians, artists. (4) A paragraph on the screenprinting-based company he later started with his WPA colleague and team leader Anthony Velonis, post-Creative Printmakers Group. (5) A paragraph on his etching and painting activities after moving to England a few years prior to his death.

I would like to ask your opinion on this based on your extensive experience as a Wikipedia editor. Thank you for any further guidance you could offer, at your convenience.

Many thanks.

rwarsager

Rwarsager (talk) 01:41, 6 November 2022 (UTC)

Hi Rwarsager
To comment on your previous post, I got to see the Joan Mitchell retrospective at the Baltimore Museum of Art earlier this year. A fair amount of information is still up on their website, but it doesn't do the show justice. Many photos of her and her environs in New York, Paris, and finally Vétheuil. Quite a bit of ephemera as well. And a great video, which is not on the website. That was all on top of room after room of canvases.
Anyway, I've been thinking about your questions. I think you should write about Warsager outside of Wikipedia. You have done tons of research and have access to an incredible trove of primary material. Wiki is supposed to be a dry neutral point of view encyclopedia, relying on secondary sources. I think you have more to say. Leave the Wiki article as is, (unless you can add info on his company and move to England from secondary sources). I think you should work on an independent article where you can weave the strands together and intersperse primary material. Don't exactly where you would start to move forward with a more nuanced article, but I think it would be vastly more interesting than working within the parameters of Wiki. WPA, National Serigraph Society and then another company is a very interesting story. Archives of American Art may be interested in adding to their knowledge and collection of information about the mid-century silk screen movement as well.
I won't expand on this topic much more, because it may be something you are not interested in, but have you considered escaping the confines of Wiki? Best, WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 21:43, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
Hello, WomenArtistUpdates.
Thanks very much for your thoughtful reply and kind encouragement. I am going to take your excellent advice to heart.  I’ve had in the back of mind a Plan B along these lines as I worked on adding to the Warsager article in accordance with the Wikipedia rules, but now that I’ve read your note I feel that it’s time to go ahead with that.  This would be a longer piece in which, as you expressed well, I can attempt to “weave the strands together and intersperse primary material”.
Regarding the current Warsager article on Wikipedia, I would just add the very short paragraph, with a secondary source, for his later related company with Velonis (which is covered in the Velonis Wiki article),  a sentence or two on his work in England that I can document, and a short partial list of exhibits from the early years (just the ones for which I have good citations). That will be it. I will reserve a longer section on the anti-racism/anti-fascism illustration work of the 1930’s, and other material, for the new independent piece.
Regarding the Joan Mitchell exhibit you wrote about, the show looks impressive on the museum site.  I would have loved to have seen it. I’m glad you got to enjoy it. It does sound breathtaking.
Thank you again for your guidance! I'm very grateful because this new approach makes great sense.
Best regards,
rwarsager Rwarsager (talk) 23:38, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
Hi Rwarsager, So glad you like the idea! Here's to "Hyman Warsager: A life with Silk Screen" (sound of glasses clinking). Just to add another unasked for comment/tip: please look at the Joan Mitchell Foundation's document Career Documentation for the Visual Artist. (You may already be familiar with it.) I hope you keep in touch as your project progresses. Best, WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 19:07, 10 November 2022 (UTC)
Hmmmm, I just looked at the link I provided you and it is for the 2022 version of the Career Documentation for the Visual Artist. I have the 2015 version, which is superior. (53 pages vs. the massive 100+ of the new version.) I can't find the 2015 version anywhere on the web. Let me know if you are interested and we'll figure out a way to get it to you. WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 20:06, 10 November 2022 (UTC)
Hi! Thank you. Yes, I definitely love the idea. And the proposed title!
I will make the incremental additions that I mentioned to the HJ Warsager article and I've begun working on the expanded version using primary sources, as you suggested. Also I've written a few pages drawing on various books and articles about the anti-lynching/anti-fascism illustrations for magazines, and in the new format I can add comments from various curators, critics, and historians of that era. This is a more gratifying approach, as you indicated it could be, drawing on the papers I have on hand and being free to add some subjective impressions.
Once I finish this version I will think about possible places to submit it.
Regarding the Career Documentation pdf, thank you for that. It was thoughtful of you to send it to me. I will review this longer version and write back to you. That type of guidance could be very helpful.
I appreciate all your help. Many thanks. I will stay in touch. All the best!
rwarsager Rwarsager (talk) 20:42, 11 November 2022 (UTC)

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Yes, indeed; thank you! Hope you know how much I, too, appreciate all the back-stage work and artistry you've been doing at Women in Red. --Rosiestep (talk) 19:11, 26 November 2022 (UTC)
Thanks for the kind words Oronsay and Rosiestep. Is the panel discussion on Adrianne Wadewitz up on the Commons? Sounds interesting! WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 00:28, 27 November 2022 (UTC)
I don't believe it was recorded, but will check. The session was named in her honour and included a summary of her work as introduction. Then we spoke about the various projects we're involved with. Oronsay (talk) 00:32, 27 November 2022 (UTC)

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Hi, WomenArtistUpdates. I hope you're well. Recalling your interest from a previous note mentioning Joan Mitchell, here is an article in The NY Times about a current exhibition in NYC: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/24/arts/design/joan-mitchell-david-zwirner.html?searchResultPosition=1.

Also, you may be familiar with the painter Hilma af Klint. Although Kandinsky and some others often get credit for the first fully abstract paintings, this female artist is arguably the actual first such painter, as the Wikipedia article on her states. This 11/23 book review of a huge catalogue raisonné is very interesting (the book is $350!) Here is the short review: [1] (I hope I did these links correctly). I find her work to be fascinating. She has become quite well known and appreciated in recent decades. I just added the catalogue raisonné to the Wiki article about her in the list of publications.

Best regards, and very happy holidays!

rwarsager Rwarsager (talk) 02:09, 27 November 2022 (UTC)

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Final addition to HJ Warsager article - Thank you. edit

Hi, WomenArtistUpdates. Just wanted to thank you again for your generous guidance to me, a beginner on Wikipedia. I just made my final addition to the article we have discussed, in light of your suggestions: the addition comprises several paragraphs about his co-founded Ceraglass company that applied silk screen techniques to glassware in new ways. I was hoping to add a very short paragraph on his final work in etching and painting after his move to England, a few years prior to his death, but I'm trying to find good sources for the exhibits he was in over there. If I can find solid sources I will send you a message to ask your thoughts, if you don't mind. Thank you again! All the very best! rwarsager Rwarsager (talk) 02:18, 29 November 2022 (UTC)

Hi Rwarsager Thanks for the update! Congrats. And you are welcome! That was fun. You have truly become a Wikipedian and I hope you keep adding stuff to the encyclopedia.
I am setting my sights on creating an article on the American Print Renaissance sometime in 2023. I have a couple of books in for interlibrary loan. My recollection is that you actually own a copy of Eichenberg's "Art of the Print". Does he use the term American Print Renaissance?

The American Print Renaissance spanned the mid-1940s to the late 1980s, which saw a revolution across printmaking media in the United States. In the early 20th century, printmaking was associated with commercial reproduction, cheap illustration, and small-scale graphic works. From the mid-1940s the aesthetic and function of printmaking radically changed. Printmaking transformed from a commercial craft to a legitimate medium of avante-garde production used by leading artists including Frankenthaler, Joan Mitchell, Jaspar Johns, and Robert Rauschenberg.

— Helen Frankenthaler and the American Print Renaissance
Hoping to create an umbrella article to bring together the National Serigraph Society, Atelier 17, the Pratt Graphics Center, etc. Expect a couple of pings once I get it started. Best. WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 20:41, 29 November 2022 (UTC)
Hi! Thank you for your congrats. And I'm very pleased at your kind comments. I do feel inspired to continue editing articles. And I admire your goal and practice of adding women artists to Wikipedia. I hope to use my growing art history library to help with that.
Your idea for the article on the American Print Renaissance sounds fascinating. Unfortunately, the Eichenberg book is not one I've got on hand. But as soon as I read your message I ordered it and should have it in about a week. I will follow up with you on your question. Absolutely yes, please ping me and if I can help I'd be delighted to. Many thanks again! and best regards!
(Side note: I cannot recall if I mentioned this to you - Although I am no art historian I'm trying to write something informal detailing how Warhol learned some advanced screen printing techniques from a WPA artist, Max Arthur Cohn, when he visited Cohn in his NYC screen printing shop in NYC in 1962. That fact seems well accepted. I'm currently sitting next to a stack of about 10 books on Warhol, including a recent biography by art critic/historian Brent Gopnick, which is excellent and a fun read. I hope to confirm this. I would like to elaborate on the straight line from WPA experimentation with screen printing and de-commercializing the process, on one hand, and Warhol's explosive growth to icon status once he employed some of those techniques in the years following 1962. Of course, Warhol was hugely creative in his own right. Now, Cohn was actually NOT in the WPA Silk Screen Unit; he was in the Easel Painting Section BUT I believe there was lots of mingling among the WPA artists in the studios, and I suspect that Cohn improved on his earlier screen printing skills there, from what he had learned working at age 20 for a commercial screen printing shop. Gopnick seems unsure about this, pointing out that Warhol had studied screen printing in art school quite a lot, but I have much more reading to do and I will attempt to speak with Gopnick. It's an amateur theory on my part, I suppose, but can't hurt to try.) Rwarsager (talk) 00:25, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

WikiProject Canada 10,000 Challenge sixth anniversary edit

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This maple leaf is awarded to WomenArtistUpdates for writing two Canadian biographies during the sixth year of The 10,000 Challenge of WikiProject Canada. Congratulations, and thank you for your contributions! Reidgreg (talk) 00:20, 5 December 2022 (UTC)
Thank you Reidgreg! I hope to get a higher total in 2023 :) WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 00:43, 5 December 2022 (UTC)

Fritz Eichenberg's edit

Hi, WomenArtistUpdates. My copy of the book arrived just now and on first examination I do not see the term 'American Print Renaissance' but I will look more thoroughly. I wanted to get back to you as soon as I received it. It's quite an interesting, substantial book and I thank you for bringing it to my attention. Let me know if there is anything else you'd like me to look for in the book in the meantime. I'd be happy to scan and send you any sections of particular interesting. I'm jumping into Chapter 16, The Silkscreen Print or Serigraph History. Just let me know.

Thanks and best regards,

rwarsager Rwarsager (talk) 21:26, 5 December 2022 (UTC)

Hi Rwarsager, I am glad you got a hold of a copy of "The Art of the Print", but disappointed that he doesn't refer to the American Print Renaissance as such. If he does write about the phenomenon of a new generation embracing silk screen and related techniques following the WPA, does he use a term to describe it? Also, is the National Serigraph Society mentioned?
I will keep waiting for my inter library loans because I think American Print Renaissance perfectly describes the movement and I want to use it as a title without veering into the dreaded "original research" area.
I have been slow on getting back to you about Warhol and drawing a line from the WPA to Andy. I guess I always put Warhol in his own little outlier bubble. Not saying that to discourage you, just sharing my view. On a tangent, did you watch "Andy Warhol Diaries" on Netflix? I thought it was very interesting. WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 01:13, 6 December 2022 (UTC)
Hi, WomenArtistUpdates. Thanks for your reply. National Serigraph Society is not in the index of the book, unfortunately. The term American Print Renaissance is excellent. I am starting to read the book tonight and will let you know about what language he uses. Regarding the National Serigraph Society: I recently went to the Philadelphia Museum of Art study room for drawings and prints where the curatorial intern mentioned their archives so I sent an email requesting an appointment (no reply yet) to see the papers they have on various WPA artists and some other related topics, including the National Serigraph Society. Here is the link to search the archives and the description of what they have on the society. I hope to go there in the next few weeks. Also, very recently I contacted one of Anthony Velonis' (co-founder of the society with my father and other artists) sons and in the near future he and I will talk about the papers he has in his possession, some of which may (I hope) relate to the society. As you may be aware, the PMoA, through the contacts and knowledge of the curator Carl Zigrosser, has one of the best collections of WPA prints and they have many of Zigrosser's papers. This curator was instrumental in the growth of printmaking and I'm hopeful that in his papers I'll find some exciting information.
I'll widen my search in the archives to find any use of 'American Print Renaissance', but unless it's been published I realize it won't be of direct help for a Wiki article.
In the meantime, I will definitely look for that term or related language in the books I've accumulated on the history of printmaking. I will let you know if I find anything that may assist you.
http://pmalibrary.libraryhost.com/
National Serigraph Society, 1944-1959
File — Box: 7, Folder: 1
Scope and Contents From the Collection: This collection contains materials gathered by Richard S. Field during his research for the PMA exhibition, "Silk Screen: History of a Medium," 1972. It includes correspondence with artists and commercial screen printers, photographs, and various publications. It also includes materials orginating from Carl Zigrosser, which was presumably gathered by Field during his research. Zigrosser was Curator of Prints and Drawings at the Philadelphia Museum of Art between 1940 and 1963. The Zigrosser...
Dates: 1944-1959
Found in: Philadelphia Museum of Art, Library and Archives / RSF, Richard S. Field Screen Printing Collection / Carl Zigrosser Files
Thank you for your thoughts on Warhol. He was certainly was one of a kind. A fascinating and wild life he led. I will watch that on Netflix. Thanks!
Best regards,
rwarsager Rwarsager (talk) 01:42, 6 December 2022 (UTC)

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