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Emily Carmichael (Director/Animator)-Paren Change

Thanks Dan! The ravages of graduate school have left a mark as far as citations go I'm afraid. I wake up screaming "Footnotes!" once a month.

I'm so sorry to bother you with this, but I think I made a mistake with the identifying parens (Director, Animator). She's only ever directed films in which she's also written the screenplay so (Filmmaker) would be more accurate. Also she's only ever done animation for films so it seems easier to fold "animator" in with (Filmmaker) and simplify things. For the life of me though I can't figure out how to change it! If you could point me in the right direction I would appreciate it. Sorry again for bothering you with newbie fumbling and thanks for the quick responses. — Preceding unsigned comment added by FilmCriticAlpha (talk • contribs) 22:42, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

Managed. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 15:17, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

Hi there, i didn't knew...

i didn't knew the policies, i wanted onli to promote myself, i didn't read well the terms of use. i'm a begginer on wiki. thank you.Mihai Malaescu (talk) 01:35, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

i don't know ...

i don't know if the article has been deleted, if is not, please delete it, and my user too, because i i saw that i cannot delete my user, and all the stuff, the article. i will sign up when i will be ready.

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Trauma Systems Therapy

Hi,

The reason I tried to change the article is because I actually work for Dr. Glenn Saxe, the founder of this treatment model. He wanted me to change the content to better reflect the website www.traumasystemstherapy.com

If the language is changed to sound less promotional- would it be alright for me to rewrite this article?

Staff.cscchair (talk) 20:14, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

Unfortunately, Dr Saxe does not get to say what text appears in the Wikipedia article, even if he is the creator of the model. The article must be based on citations to reliable sources. Saxe's own website cannot be said to be a reliable source; rather we must rely on sources that have been peer-reviewed. Since you have a conflict of interest related to this topic, your best course of action is to comment on the talk page to point out any specific factual errors in the article, and allow independent editors to verify the errors and correct them. When doing so, you should provide updated sources indicating that the present article is incorrect. Updates merely to promote Dr Saxe's clinic will not be allowed. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 20:20, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

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new FEW REFERENCE for G-Marl Jamal

http://www.inmycommunity.com.au/news-and-views/local-news/Multicultural-celebrations/7547455/ (Rachdar A Giraneza is The G-Marl Jamal)

http://www.inceptionstrategies.com/cj.htm (Thats a comic book he was featured as a main character and he acted as Jamal)

Hope this will help the article better — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fresnelle (talk • contribs) 00:33, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

No, they really don't. Really,read and understand WP:Reliable sources and try to understand why these sources are not significant. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 03:34, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

Re: Fireboy and Watergirl

Looking at your sandbox article, I don't think it's enough as is. Simply re-hosting a game doesn't seem to classify it under reliable, third-party coverage that would be required under WP:GNG and WP:WEB. Taking a look at something like Club Penguin, you can see there is coverage from newspapers and other news sites along with blogs that actually write about the subject and why it is notable. Of course, I recognize that not every game is going to be as popular as that, but I don't see anything from a quick google search that would indicate it would meet guidelines. Others in the community may disagree and come to a different consensus, but that's where I see it right now. Sasquatch t|c 18:32, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the feedback. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 19:31, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

Red Leaf Poetry

Thank you so much for your help. I know this organization that exists. But the Award is the first of its kind in India. It is going to announce Call for Submission across India. Please do not create any link, but over a week's time I'll confirm eminent jury poets like Ranjit Hoskote, Arundhathi Subramanium are going to be the judges. It is a promised prize, already announced on twitter page by https://twitter.com/RLPoetryIndia . Please help.

Also check http://nnivedita.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/DSCN9712.jpg — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nuclear23 (talk • contribs) 20:00, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

A group's own twitter postings are hardly a reliable source for claims about this prize. And the nnivedita.com page you posted is a picture of a page from a magazine reporting about a group called "Potpourri", which appears to be little more than a poetry club meeting at a local book store. That proves nothing about nothing. If the group does manage to get the poets you've listed as judges for its contest, that might be notable, and an independent source might write about it. When that happens, we might be able to create an article about this club. But not yet. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 20:11, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

Redundant

Thanks. Do you mean the mark of the beast page? Are you saying that all of what I said is on that page and that I don't need to add anything anywhere about what I said? DVTalk erased my stuff too. I told him Im knew and not religious but trying to add what ive heard religious people say that i didnt see on thee 666 or mark of the beast page, and asked how i can help us all not erase everything, but find a middle ground of what can stay, and said that I was trying to add the referrence sources, and asked for him to please let me have time to do it. What should I do? Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DavidWayneJohnson (talk • contribs) 20:36, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

The main problem that we have here is that you've added a broad swath of original research: stuff you know about the topic without any indication of how you know it (i.e. the reliable sources upon which you base your knowledge). The secondary problem is that you've added the material to the wrong place: since there is already an article on Number of the beast, any in depth analysis of the subject should be added there, not at the 666 article, where the topic is only mentioned briefly. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 20:47, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

Redo

Thanks. I agree. Thank you for saying why you did what you did. I took out some personal observations, just left the first part at the 666 article and took the rest to the number of the beast. I told DVTalk I wasnt trying to redo your edits without saying why I did. Is there anyother way I can source it? It's what I've concluded from reading The Bible as a nonreligious person as to what religious people are saying 666 is. How would I say it different if it's still wrong? What else can I source besides the KJV on how people say everyone gets a different opinion out of it? Do I need to publish a book and then referrence myself? Should I leave in the comparison to Citizen Kane and the Wizard of Oz and site them? I've never heard any christian say what I'm saying, but they wont say what "add it up" means for 666 and usually don't know what the Bible says they're suppose to know in relation to what the number page already says about Revelation already thinking the readers of that time knew what "add it up" meant. I read the Bible myself to try and find out and I cant find any other explanation for what adding up 600, 20-20-20, and 6 is besides what I said except similiar to what the number article already says about 666 being how many talents of gold Solomon got each year, which I think relates to the material wealth that I talked about. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DavidWayneJohnson (talk • contribs) 21:00, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

Unfortunately, your own conclusions from your reading of the Bible don't carry much weight. You need to find a published author who has drawn the conclusion, and then cite that author. Alternatively, yes, you could publish your own conclusions in a reputable venue (a scholarly journal, or through a reputable publisher of scholarly texts), and then cite your own book. However, until then, your own ideas are just that, your own. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 21:09, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

Thanks

I see how my opinion is my opinion. I'll go back and make it singlular instead of saying "some" and "others." Is that what you mean? I see you erased my 666 contribution again. Is this why? How are my observations different from the other self observations that you didn't erase? I'm really asking. I'm not trying to be mean. Thanks for the help. You and DV made me see that saying "others" and "some" was misleading. If you dont want me to add my opinion I wont. What reputable source would you suggest I publish my ideas with? Thanks.DavidWayneJohnson (talk) 21:33, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

No, that won't work either. If it is your opinion, it is not really fit for inclusion in an encyclopedia. I have lots of opinions about things too, but this isn't the forum to post your own private opinions. If you want to start your own private blog about your personal interpretation of the Bible, go for it. But not here. As for "other self-observations", I have not reviewed the entirety of number of the beast for its sourcing. I generally keep an eye on major changes added by new users, as those tend to be the most problematic. So I found your changes, and found them to be problematic. If you feel there are other issues with the article, feel free to raise the issue on the talk page. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 21:44, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

Thanks again

I understand. I'm not going to change it anymore. Thanks for the advice about going to the talk page. As for the rest of the page being problamatic according to how I was, yes, a lot of the page would need to be erased then. Personally, I'm happy it says what it says either way. Again, thanks for everything. I'll take your advise. Thanks.DavidWayneJohnson (talk) 22:11, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

I Just saw the Qoph change that the person from the other users page you commented on did to what I'd wrote. It wont happen again. Sorry.

Sorry. Please don't feel like you guys have to monitor me anymore. I'm glad you were though so what I'd done is now gone. Sorry I put you thru that guys. It wont happen again. Thanks.DavidWayneJohnson (talk) 22:34, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

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Further information on why the content from The National Society of Leadership and Success will be deleted

Dear Dan61:

Good day! I thought I used an approved Wiki content writer to write the information about the Honor Society. Can you tell me where the content went wrong?

Thanks!

-Tracy — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tracyawehringer (talk • contribs)

Tracy, I had to go back into the archives for this one -- your page was marked for deletion over 4 months ago. I note that you recreated it as an articles for creation submission, and that your submission has been declined by another editor for the same reason I declined your original article: it reads like an advertisement for the organization. I had marked the original submission as blatant advertising. The present version you've written does not appear as blatant: it seems to lean more to the informative and less toward the pursuasive, but I can see how Lugia2453 (talk · contribs) might have arrived at his conclusion. Basically, your article reads like what I might expect to find on the organization's own website. What I would expect to see in a Wikipedia article is more information about the organization's impact, and less about its membership process or symbols.

I'm not sure what you mean by "an approved Wiki content writer". If you mean that you created the article with the article wizard, that is no guarantee that the content you create with the wizard will be acceptable. The fact that the only references you cite in your new AFC submission are links to the organization's own website is also troubling. Articles require references from reliable third-party sources. I.e. someone else writing about the organization rather than the organization writing about itself.

I hope this has proved useful. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 17:55, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

Howard Grief

here is a good source! http://int.icej.org/news/special-reports/land-feud-back http://mobiletest.jpost.com/Headlines/Article.aspx?id=83282037&cat=2 The Jerusalem Post definitely meets wikipedia standards. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Piwi2000 (talk • contribs) 23:09, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

Baldacci office

Hi Dan. Baldacci office is David's office; I'm new to Wikipedia and trying to update his page, which is woefully out of date. Please advise if I need to change the user name. Many thanks! Baldacci office (talk) 14:14, 17 May 2013 (UTC)

As a representative of Baldacci, you have a signficant conflict of interest. Recognizing this, you should be careful in your edits to remain neutral. A better path might be to address any inaccuracies or out of date information in the article's talk page.

And yes, you should consider a username change, as any name that indicates you are editing on behalf of someone else is forbidden. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 14:49, 17 May 2013 (UTC)

Red Leaf Poetry again

The group has received consensus from eminent poets like Ranjit Hoskote, Arundhathi Subramanium, Inua Ellams, Kala Raamesh and Prof. R.K Singh for judging Ræd Leaf Poetry India Award 2013. Ræd/Red Leaf Poetry India. Consider character 'æ' usage. If you wish delete it, keep it whatever. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nuclear23 (talk • contribs) 14:18, 17 May 2013 (UTC)

The article about Red Leaf Poetry has been listed for a deletion discussion. Any input relative to its deletion or retention should be directed to WP:Articles for deletion/Red Leaf Poetry. You will need a citation from an independent source to verify that those notable poets have signed on to your award project. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 14:49, 17 May 2013 (UTC)

It is not my project, I was assisting them. But anyway, if you are not helpful now, later they wouldn't need your help coz nothing can stop them. Keep an eye on their progress.. Google will connect you with their progress soon. Infact, Philip Nikolayev and Jeet Thayil are their advisers on board. DELETE The page without any fuss. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nuclear23 (talk • contribs) 11:38, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

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Talkback - AfD/Foundation for the Education of Needy Children in Fiji

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First of all Hello. Second, I am very sorry I have not yet figured how this all works with talkback and things like that. Also You have probably figured out that I am new to posting topics and new articles or however it is called. Now on topic, I have indeed wanted that article to be the Serbian translation of the page Tree Sort. I will soon if deleted repost it on the Serbian page of Wikipedia, and then after somehow link it to the original Tree Sort page in languages section, because I have yet to figure that out. Thank you for your time and i hope this clears up some things.

I see that you have already created the Serbian version of the article at sr:Сортирање уз помоћ бинарног стабла. Congratulations! I'll create the proper interwiki link on Tree sort. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 11:58, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

I see that you beat me to that punch too! Well done! WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 12:05, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

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Stellar aberration (derivation from Lorentz transformation)

Hello WikiDan61

I agree with you in one point: the articles shouldn't exist parallel to each other: my article is an additional article to the main article. It's like a subpage. I started the article in German well before 19 May (1): at that time, there wasn't a solid STR derivation of the formula, neither in German nor in English (see "aberration of light" 04-18-2013 19:18 and my 04-18-2013 12:43 de.wikipedia.org draft). Now there is one, as there was a major rebuild of that article, but it uses the velocity-addition formula. The approach in this article uses the Lorentz transformation, which is more basic (beginners first get used to the Lorentz transformation) and it has a second advantage: it shows more clearly that the velocity of the star doesn't play a role. My article is an addition, mostly mathematical, that includes the derivation of the approximate formula and sample calculations. Is that interesting? I think it is! Is it important enough to inflate the main article? I think it is not. Perhaps wikibooks?

--AbiLtoC (talk) 18:46, 22 May 2013 (UTC) (or AbiLtoCen : as I wanted to have en.wikipedia.org as my home wiki, I created the new *en account today --AbiLtoCen (talk) 19:38, 22 May 2013 (UTC))

(1) Unfortunately the German version has been deleted today but not because that article would be invalid or a fork, but because: Eine Herleitung ist kein Enzyklopädie-Artikel (A derivation is not an encyclopedic article)

Trash Rock Deletion

Hi Dan, I am wondering why this was deleted as an "Attack Page". Can you give me a reason for it? I was not attempting to slander / attack any of the bands listed or fans of those bands, simply to point out that many people make fun of people who listen to that music even though they listen to it themselves.

Thanks, Martin — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mcollie3 (talk • contribs) 19:21, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

By its definition, the term "trash rock" denotes music that is bad, and laughable, and causes fans of that music to face derision. The inclusion of any band in that category is derisive. No reliable sources exist to define a genre called "trash rock" nor to place any band into such a genre. The term has also already been taken through AFD once before. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 19:30, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

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R P Sanjiv Goenka Group Talk Back

Please advice on how I can further work on the article to make it better.

[Mitchellez 17:06, 23 May 2013 (UTC)] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mitchellez (talk • contribs)

When an article is tagged for speedy deletion, it is because the tagger (me, in this case) felt that the article was unsalvageable. If I could have edited the article to address the problem, I would have. Instead, the article would have to be scrapped almost in its entirety and written from scratch. Should you choose to do that, you might want to look at some other articles about companies. Category:GA-Class company articles lists articles about companies that have been deemed good articles by the community; these should be used as examples of how to structure your own article.

Things to avoid:

• inflated claims of importance
• inflated claims of history (if a company was formed in 2010 by splitting a former company that existed earlier, the company does not inherit all of the history of the prior company)
• words or phrases intended to entice a reader to either use the company's products or invest in the company.

Good luck! WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 17:17, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

This helps! Thanks a lot. Will work on it from scratch after research on how to write on companies. Appreciate your help. [Mitchellez 17:22, 23 May 2013 (UTC)] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mitchellez (talk • contribs)

A beer for you!

Appreciate your help! Mitchellez 17:27, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

Update

Please note Dan61 I followed this format: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Honor_Society for our Society page. Warm regards, Tracy — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tracyawehringer (talk • contribs) 17:45, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

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Miller Transporters Inc. Page Considered for Deletion

I have added another link to an award that Miller Transporters Inc. has received from the American Chemistry Council. I would hope the article could be taken off the list for deletion. That was a very news-worthy award that they won. Here is the link to the article. http://www.americanchemistry.com/Media/PressReleasesTranscripts/ACC-news-releases/Chemical-Industry-Honors-Companies-for-Excellent-Performance-and-Commitment-to-Health-and-Safety.html Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ramseymediaworks (talk • contribs) 15:15, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

You are free to address your concerns to the discussion in question at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Miller Transporters Inc.. I would caution you to stop using the Ramseymediaworks username, as you have requested and been granted a name change to a less promotional name. However, when you do use your new username, you should disclose your conflict of interest regarding this topic (your company does represent Miller Transporters for media representation, does it not?). WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 15:36, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

Moving accounts

Hi there! I just wanted to let you know that I moved accounts, i'm ditching this account (PBASH607) because I want a new and fresh start (also because I never liked my old username), my new account is JackFrost2121 if you have any questions post them there (this is also my last message to you from me using this account), I may still contribute from PBASH607 but rarley, and only in public places. Cheers The Grand Cenobite (talk) 02:53, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

Karol D. Witkowski (Karl Witkowski)

Hello, I agree with you. Thanks for fixing my English. I just noticed on the right of the article, you added ref to Wikimedia Commons. He painted in more then one style, unfortunately I do not found "public free" photographs of his other work (he painted historic scenes in Paris and did some portraits in Poland, France and USA). Those 32 pictures in Gallery that all what I can show publicly about this painter (however I have seen almost 80 of his paintings, most of them are from auctioneers). About Karol is one more thing we should keep in mind. Up to now nobody wrote anything about him! There is no any list of his paintings. Art dealers using different names for same painting. Somebody should make one list and make it public! There are no books, about such clever man who need to leave his homeland, because foreign invaders. America became his new home, home of freedom, but after so many years we even do not have his own picture. Four months ago, the only story often I could read was shortly: American painter, born in Austria,... study with Matejko... I did great job to dig out all information I could about him. All that I tried to put together. And thanks for help from you too. First time in my life I heart about Karol Witkowski was about November 2012 and only because 20 years ago I bought his painting (a print) signed Wykowsky. There is no artist named Wykowsky. After discover Karl Witkowski I collect photos of his paintings and information about him. Today I know this is same person. He signed on beginning in USA under that name. In March 2013 I wrote small post-his biography on “americangallery.wordpress.com. Later on April 16, 2013 I read on what-when-how.com small Karl Witkowski biography with place of his birth (Poland, under Austria occupation, Galicia) and birth and death dates. He was born on August 16! That is my birthday too. I never knew about it before. This is something that will encourage me to work hard for this man! I wish I could write a book about his life and work, but... that is not easy for me, I do not know how to start, in addition my knowledge about him is still too little and I do not have public access to photographs of all his paintings.

Finally I agree with you, we do not have to show so many paintings in Gallery, unless I get some different stiles also. One more word about list of his paintings (just before gallery). Most of these paintings nobody saw yet! I got them from catalogs of copyright entries in USA. I am still looking for more. He probable did together over 200 paintings. My own list has shows 118 paintings (most of tem are not public). Sincerely mopiale Karol’s mentor.

Your note brings up several issues:

1. If no one has written about him, no books, no articles, etc, (i.e. no reliable sources) then he probably does not meet the criteria for inclusion. Writing based on what you know, rather than based on what has been published in reliable sources, is not what Wikipedia is all about.
2. How is it possible that you are Witkowski's mentor, if he died in 1910? (Perhaps you had a different word in mind than mentor?)

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Truly new user?

I have just seen one of the moves by TenMuses on my watchlist. The editor seems familiar with wp expressions and tools and also appears to have gone straight in with an agenda contrary to the majority result of the recent RfC to use Vietnamese names. It's possible that it's one of the now-banned editors from that RfC. Either way a bulk revert is required. Thanks for noticing before me. In ictu oculi (talk) 14:46, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

CSD of The Good Mother (2013 film)

Surely that's a mistake? Marcus Qwertyus (talk) 12:07, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

I could find no indication that such a film existed. Was I wrong? WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 21:06, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

Request to remove deletion

Hi,

You have raised a request for deletion of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prasoon_Kumar

I request you to withdraw this request. The information regarding criteria f organisation that you have requested is at http://www.iifsind.org/

Notability is establised in the annual book "Best Citizen of India" by International Publishing House, which carries a one page article on this person on page 88. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Adyakumar (talk • contribs) 13:13, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

The discussion has been initiated. I will not withdraw it. You are free to add your thoughts to the discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Prasoon Kumar. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 14:20, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

Indian awards and their relationship to notability

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GOCE May drive wrap-up

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Conflict of interests: Land of Promise

Please tell me which section of the article Land of Promise: An Economic History of the United States is subjective. It is an university project and I am supposed to write that article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by LOPAEHOTUS (talk • contribs)

You should choose a different user name then. The name you have chosen (being the initials of the book) implies a connection to the book. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 14:20, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

I see. I chose the name so my professor would always know that it was me who edited the page by checking its history. I'm sorry!

Not a problem. A simple misunderstanding. You might wish to put some text on your user page explaining your username, and specifically explaining that you are not associated with Michael Lind (the author of the book), but have simply chosen the username for your university project. (You might consider a less single-purpose username, in case you choose to hang around and work on other subjects at Wikipedia.) WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 14:40, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

Jamel Holley

I know it says to answer you on my page, but I was unsure of how to do that, as I am obviously new to Wikipedia. I apologize.

Mayor Holley is also one of the front runners to run with New Jersey State Senator Barbara Buono as her Lieutenant Governor when she faces current Governor Chris Christie in the gubernatorial election on November 5th.

He is an enormously influential politician in New Jersey, and that is not an exaggeration. Also, his brother is about to have a movie made about his (Jesse's) life as a reality show winner-turned-NFL player.

Thanks for your time.

http://www.deadline.com/2013/03/sony-sets-oscar-winning-undefeated-helmers-for-pic-about-dallas-cowboys-player-jesse-holley/

http://www.politickernj.com/65868/not-commenting-sweeney-fight-lesniak-focuses-primary-cryan-deprived-primary-fights-sweeney — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jtdaman93 (talk • contribs) 17:43, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

Help

Why delete this article? He is a great man. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farid_Khan_%28journalist%29 — Preceding unsigned comment added by ZeeshanRehman1 (talk • contribs) 20:56, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

BlueGrace Logistics

This change was to correct an incorrect corporate title for Blue-Grace Group. It is the same entity, but is properly spelled BlueGrace Logistics.

I am working to update the information for this page as it is outdated and am adding more references.

Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by JLJ13BG (talk • contribs) 17:02, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

Understood. The company does not appear notable, no matter what name we use for the article. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 17:04, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

Thank you. I provided a reference from the 2012 Inc. 5000, which provided documentation that the company BlueGrace Logistics was 20th overall for the fastest growing companies in the nation and first overall in the 700 billion dollar logistics and transportation industry.

JLJ13BG (talk) 17:21, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

Listings in "fastest growing company" lists are rarely sufficient to denote notability. They are invariably just that, a listing, not significant coverage as required by the guidelines. In any case, the article has been nominated for deletion; any commentary you have on the matter should be directed to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/BlueGrace Logistics. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 17:24, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

Shpoople

In all due respect "Shpoople" is a real sport and there is no reason to delete this page. (Unless you could give me a reason)In all due respect. Camnewton2 (talk) 18:44, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

Sincerely - CamNewton2 or O.J. Montgomery — Preceding unsigned comment added by Camnewton2 (talk • contribs)

With all due respect, prove it with citations to reliable sources. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 18:46, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

Shpoople

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Shpoople — Preceding unsigned comment added by Camnewton2 (talk • contribs) 18:51, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

I said reliable sources. Urban Dictionary is not considered a reliable source. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 18:53, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

What would you say is a reliable source?Bigfoot has its own wikipedia page,We don't know if it is real. Camnewton2 (talk) 19:39, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

Bigfoot is a notable case of a cryptozoological phenomenon: probably not real, but clearly notable for the amount of coverage received. Shpoople is not broadly covered in reliable sources, and the definition at Urban Dictionary is clearly a hoax (the most popular game in recent history?? surely I think not!) WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 20:07, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

Yes I agree,But Shpoople is a swedish sport,Most popular in recent Swedish history. Camnewton2 (talk) 20:47, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

You'll need a more reliable source than Urban Dictionary to back up that statement. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 20:48, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

Well im working on a page called "Why?" a 1971 short film featuring O.J. Simpson and Tim Buckley.Is that atleast alright? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Camnewton2 (talk • contribs) 20:50, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

That's fine as long as you can provide reliable sources. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 20:52, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

Alrighty! Camnewton2 (talk) 20:55, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

Tennessee Christian University

I am trying to provide information that can sustain my claim. I am not trying to grind an axe I just want everyone to know. — Preceding unsigned comment added by FraudAlerter (talk • contribs) 19:21, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

Well, actually, you are trying to grind an axe. You got burned, and now you want others to know about this problem. Your very name says what you're here for. Unfortunately, if the only thing you have to say about this organization is that they are a fraudulent operation, whether or not you have the documentation to back that up, that's not a valid encyclopedia article. There are websites available for you to go make your claim known, but not here. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 19:29, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

Aside from being an attempt to grind an axe, the article was also a copy/paste, with names changed to mention this university instead of the school mentioned in the original page - so this article was also a copyvio, and itself likely fraudulent as it was using negative prose about a different subject and mentioning this one instead. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 19:45, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

Speedy deletion

My bad! I am in the process of the learning. Feel free to correct me whenever required. Apologies for the trouble. - Vivvt (Talk) 21:05, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

Thank you

I will try to go into some older Hollywood Reporters, and LA Times to find information. I will continue my quest to get this great man his rightful-place in Wikipedia. Thank you for your help!!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tammy pruit (talk • contribs) 22:54, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

Sekou Niare

Niare Sekou 13 June 2013, 18h59. Edit and Talk. With your agree, we have deleted the screen concerning the statistics and the teams (Puteaux and Rueil-Malmaison). We have to let my biography and my story about of my formation. With the time we will contactly the french magazine "Mondial Basket" for to have a reliable source. And next we will add the reliable source. We ask you to give us the time for to complete the reliable source on my page "Sekou Niare". — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sekouiverson (talk • contribs) 19:18, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

The article has been nominated for deletion. The deletion is not immediate; if there are sources to be found, there is time to find them. But you should know that creating your own autobiography is strongly discouraged. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 20:04, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

User:Russianbritish

Initially, the user claimed that the book has just been released, so I concluded that he was trying to make publicity for it by creating an article about a location found in the book. (Afterwads, he changed his mind and claimed that the book hasn't yet been published and wouldn't be for months, in which case there's nothing to promote.) See Talk:Imperial Republic of Kčelzora. - Mike Rosoft (talk) 06:09, 14 June 2013 (UTC)

In that sense the Articles on all fiction and literature and such is all a publicity stunt.BuzzerB. (talk) 18:37, 27 June 2013 (UTC)unsigned.

Articles about established works of fiction, which can be created based on reliable sources (e.g. reviews of the work, or scholarly analyses of the work), are fine and good contributions to Wikipedia. Articles about as-yet unpublished works of fiction, for which there are no reliable sources, are not useful contributions to Wikipedia. When an article exists about Middle Earth, this is drawn from many published sources (including, but not limited to, the primary sources: Tokien's Lord of the Rings trilogy and The Hobbit). When a writer writes about the realms of a book not yet published, to what sources can we look to verify this description of the realm? With no sources, there can be no article. Sorry if you disagree. Feel free to fight the fight at the WP:Village pump, but until you can convince the Wikipedia community to change the nature of what we're doing here, Russianbritish's articles will not be appropriate. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 19:01, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

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A beer for you!

Very new to Wiki, thanks for the clear up. TRCawley (talk) 16:08, 14 June 2013 (UTC)

You're very welcome. This appears to be a major international firm with deep roots. Reliable sources should be easy to find. But you'll need to find them and include them, or the article may well be deleted. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 16:10, 14 June 2013 (UTC)

A cupcake for you!

For helping me get started. yang long (talk) 18:47, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

Removal of new PC Plus loyalty program page

About a week ago I posted a page about the PC Plus loyalty program that was removed because it was deemed promotional content. I agree with the decision and should have done more research before posting. I would still like to have a page up about the program and am working on revising my text to be in-line with Wikipedia guidelines but fear that, because I do work with Loblaws occasionally, that I'm still in a conflict of interest position. Is it possible to engage someone more impartial to author the page within Wikipedia's guidelines?

Thanks in advance!

Kmknights (talk) 18:45, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

I suggest that you follow one of two paths:

1. Create the article in your user space (for example, at User:Kmknights/PC Plus loyalty program) and then ask for an independent editor to review it prior to moving to live article space. I'll be glad to perform the review for you when you're ready, or you can ask any other editor with whom you're comfortable.
2. Create the article at WP:Articles for creation (specifically, at Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/PC Plus loyalty program). In this case, add the {{AFC submission}} template to the top of the page (check the template's documentation for proper setting of the various parameters). That way, any of the number AFC submission reviewers will be able to evaluate the article.

Good luck! WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 19:02, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

Thank you! Kmknights (talk) 20:26, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

Hi,

Ive edited the PC Plus page with new content (following the first path you outlined), can you take a look and see if it now meets Wikipedia standards? Thanks in advance!

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_PC_Plus%E2%84%A2_Program

Kmknights (talk) 15:41, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

Actually, no, you completely ignored both paths I offered you and went ahead and recreated the article in the main article space. The article is still problematic in that it describes only one company's loyalty program, which is in no way unique. Whereas the general concept of a digital loyalty program might be a valid subject for an article, an article on one particular company's program can only be seen as advertising. Had you followed my suggestions above, this might have been discussed prior to the creation of the article. Now, the article will likely face a deletion discussion. (Well, almost certainly, as I intend to start said discussion.) WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 15:53, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

Hi WikiDan61,

Please accept our most sincere apologies – we followed your instructions and clicked on the link you provided in your previous correspondence to make these updates, but it seems we’ve gotten it wrong. It was absolutely not our intention to re-publish the article; we completely agree with the suggestions you’ve made, and we wanted to get your input and feedback before trying to re-publish anything at all.

As we’re not quite sure where we went wrong, would Wikipedia’s rules permit us to perhaps connect with you over the phone in a conference call instead? If this isn’t possible, could we possibly email you directly with our copydeck (for you to propose edits away from the Wikipedia environment, to ensure that we don’t make the same mistake again)?

Thank you so much for your time and assistance.

Kmknights (talk) 16:11, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia rules might allow you to contact me by phone, but I have no interest in that. Understand that I am not associated with Wikipedia; I'm just another editor, just like you.

As for the mistaken article creation, had you clicked on either of the red links in my original suggestion to you, you would have been brought to a page that said

Wikipedia does not have a user page with this exact title.

You would have been provided with an edit box in which to create the article you wanted. However, you must have done something different. That is immaterial now -- the article has been created and it is still inappropriate. I don't see that there is a path to creating an appropriate article about this topic, as it just isn't that notable. It's a loyalty program. Perhaps a digital loyalty program is unique within Canadian food retailers, but it is certainly not unique in the world. And because of that, any article about this particular loyalty program can only be seen as advertising for the store, and thus cannot be allowed to remain. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 16:23, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

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Good WikiDan61,

As a new contributor to Wikipedia, I am still getting used to the rules and regs. I totally understand that advertising and promotional materials are not permitted. However, the last round of edits I made to Sentry Siren's page were strictly fact and were actually correcting misinformation that existed on the original version of the page I found yesterday. I am going to republish my last round of edits - I sincerely hope everyone will stop undoing my edits as the sole intent of the post is to correct bad information regarding the different Sentry models.

Sincerely,

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I understand Wikipedia's efforts to remain objective. And I certainly understand my earlier posts were too far on the promotional side. Everything I posted was true, but I can see how they could construed as biased and promotional. As I previously stated, I'm a new Wikipedia contributor and am still getting used to the rules and regs. However, as you agreed, the last round of edits were simply factual and without bias. If the purpose of this communication/research medium is the dissemination of information that is both objective and, more importantly, factual, then correcting misinformation, regardless of previous involvement, would seem to be a benefit for the community as a whole. Correct me if I am wrong. In the meantime, it is a disservice to Wikipedia, Sentry Siren, and the siren enthusiast community as a whole for false/inaccurate data to be online. My goal was to correct the errors in a timely fashion. Hopefully that can be made to happen.

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No, I did not add a separate user account to continue editing. I don't know who 2Fly33 is.

thanks

Dear Sir, I am very grateful the organization and format of the article I'm writing about Chilean writer Arturo Fontaine Talavera. Will consider the suggestions about dating and try to improve it and polish it a little more.

very grateful

Leonidas — Preceding unsigned comment added by Leotv (talk • contribs) 18:12, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

June 2013

Hello, I'm Ï¿½. I noticed that you recently removed some content from Interfaith Creed without explaining why. In the future, it would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Wikipedia with an edit summary. If this was a mistake, don't worry: I restored the removed content. If you would like to experiment, you can use the sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks! Ï¿½ (talk) 17:19, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

Actually I left a very explicit reason in the edit summary. This is not a case of page blanking; it is a case of redirecting a page that has no business being in the first place. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 18:04, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

Ah sorry. The article was deleted later. Ï¿½ (talk) 18:07, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

Illinois Valley Community Hospital

I am not techinally an employee here at the hospital, I am a non paid intern just for the summer. This was my idea to make a page for the hospital and I told my employer about it and he said go for it. This is all on my own and has nothing to do with the hopsital except state the facts and help the readers learn more about the hospital. (Illinois18 (talk) 16:33, 24 June 2013 (UTC))

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Cesar Yedra

The IMDB article on Cesar Yedra does exist as well as the role on Sunday Morning. That seems to limit the "obvious hoax" part. Perhaps it would be better to mark it as not notable? Do you think an admin would delete based on db-hoax? Cheers Jim1138 (talk) 15:17, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

Yes, there is an article on Yedra listing him in a single video released in 2006, that is not notable enough for a Wikipedia article (or at least none has yet been written). The hoax part is listing him as having all the other credits as well. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 15:20, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

db-hoax falls is a db-g3 which is vandalism and blatant hoax. I don't think that applies for this. I would recommend a db-a7 / db-person. I don't think an admin will delete as a db-g3. Cheers Jim1138 (talk) 15:33, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

And yet... WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 16:19, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

My hat is off to you sir... Cheers Jim1138 (talk) 16:29, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

You win a Helping Hand Barnstar!

		The Helping Hand Barnstar
		For going the extra mile by starting a non-promotional article on Alloy Digital! -- Cyphoidbomb (talk) 17:16, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

Thank you! I spend a lot of time on NPP tagging poor article for deletion. When I get the chance to see an actually notable company being written about poorly and fix that, I makes my day. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 14:26, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

View Article

Hello,

Can you please view my article and look over it and see if I am on the right track and not for deletion. I worked very hard on this and would like to show future employers my knowledge and skills about a Wikipedia page. The article is Illinois Valley Community Hospital. Illinois18 (talk) 13:57, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

I have been keeping an eye on the article (perhaps you haven't noticed my inputs as well). I do not see that you have addressed the concerns raised at the AFD discussion, namely that the article relies entirely on primary sources and does not demonstrate any significant coverage in independent third-party sources. There is no independent material from which to draw verifiable facts.

As for your desire to use this page as a demonstration of your skills for future employers, that is not really a concern of Wikipedia. The page will be retained or deleted on its own merits without regard to your desire or need to have the page retained for your own purposes. Even if it is retained, by the time you are being hired, it will have been edited by so many other editors that your own hand in it will have disappeared.

On a more personal note, I would not recommend you use the article in its present form as a "sample of your work" to future employers. Your style and grammar still need a fair bit of work. What I would recommend is that you take the article in its present form, and present it to one of your Business Communication professors for critique and feedback. You have a fair bit to learn before you will be an effective business communications expert. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 14:05, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

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Without the contact information does my page look any better? If there is anything else that looks promotional let me know and I will change it. Illinois18 (talk) 14:01, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

The contact information was removed as a pure violation of Wikipedia guidelines. As for the rest of the page, see my comments above. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!!

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Cesar Yedra

I've been working on the spanish Wikipedia to delete this kind of hoaxes. The person responsible of this articles has been writing them for months now, and even in other languages. Is a really tough and demanding case. --Soulreaper (talk) 14:44, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Animal transportation

Hi, just to let you know that as you contributed to Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Anthony Seldon/Box of seals, there is a related discussion going on at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Animal transportation which you may be interested in. Thank you! Seal Boxer (talk) 13:57, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

Craig Kelly edit

Hi, I'm sorry for my blanking of a section of Craig Kelly (politician) it was accidental and I was unaware I altered anything. I was scouting about to see the damage http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Iva_Tarbell had done to the page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by StonewallOxy (talk • contribs) 18:17, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

That seems an odd way for a brand new editor to start off. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 18:23, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

In any case, Craig Kelly (Politician) has been altered again and the factual information i added was removed. It was replaced with Craig Thompson tit-for-tat citing local newspaper sources and the smh months before Crikey did their investigative reporting that was removed. The entire section on his shadow directorships and was replaced with this puff piece:

"In the final sitting period of 2013 Mr Craig Kelly MP was nominated by the Hon. Tony Abbott MP to be the Coalitions Representative to the bipartisan committee overseeing the implementation of the national disability insurance scheme. Mr Kelly is the only sitting member of the House of Representatives who has first hand knowledge of what it is like to raise a child with severe disabilities."

I do not think firstly the removal of this directorship history where he has mislead parliament and its replacement with bipartisan circumstantial details in his politics matters. The latest editor Wikicreaks I suspect to be Iva Tarbell. — Preceding unsigned comment added by StonewallOxy (talk • contribs) 03:01, 2 July 2013 (UTC)

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From: Harinder.pisces

Yes, I am new to the wiki and the way of communications between the editors. But I appreciated that we can discuss in the section of the page which needs to be improved. Kindly let me know what has to be edited on the page which we can do to improve the article.

Alloy Digital

Good Morning! Thank you for providing me with feedback about the Alloy Digital page. I have responded to the corrections you have made and included links of sources where necessary. If you could take a look at the changes I made to the talk page, I would really appreciate it! Thanks!

Wikipedia CST page

Thanks for your help and your message, Dan. I don't see that there's sufficient balance between opponents and proponents of CST. We're accused of quackery which is a very emotive and derogatory description that clients from my Practice and other CST Practices don't recognize as a result of the help they've received from CST. The part of my edit you've omitted is intended to show that we're committed to research (which is difficult to fund for a member financed organisation); that our research is being carried out in conjunction with a leading UK Russell Group University; and that the approximately 50 studies taken together with the qualitative study undertaken by one of our members in 2012 show that a significant number of clients received a definable benefit from receiving CST. Leaving the word 'quackery' unchallenged does not seem balanced and I do not think your edit leaves my original comment in a strong enough position to balance that derogatory statement.

The main issue is where do we go from here? Can we agree some stronger form of 'balance' as opposed to moving towards using a disputes procedure?

Peoplemapsdavid (talk) 11:44, 3 July 2013 (UTC)David.

I have opened a discussion at Talk:Craniosacral therapy#Input from the Craniosacral Therapy Association of the UK. Feel free to comment there. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 12:43, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

S.O.B.A.M.

S.O.B.A.M. is a sockpuppet of a banned user Pollilur. He will be blocked shortly then we will delete his short battle articles, as we do every couple of weeks. - MrX 14:14, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

I don't understand the reasoning behind the removal of my edit.

I am slightly annoyed about the roll back of the Teesdale School wiki page.

Not only have you removed the main body of text...
You have also removed vital information. We do not have a head teacher, we have a Senior Leadership Team of Principals.

I can understand that our main body of text could possibly be seen as promotional material,
but it wasn't designed or written with that in mind. It contains information about the running of the school,
our motto, and various other aspects of the school.

I ask that you approve my changes to the schools information box, and review your decision to remove the main body of text,
as we do not believe this to be promotional material.

Regards,

Tom Stanier
Network Technician
Teesdale School — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tomstanier-teesdaleschool (talk • contribs)

I rolled back this series of edits because it was blatantly promotional and a copyright violation of the school's own website. Wikipedia does not exist as a platform for Teesdale School (or any other entity) to get to say what they like about themeselves. It is an encyclopedia providing verifiable, neutral information about subjects. As an editor with a very obvious conflict of interest regarding Teesdale School, you should avoid editing the article at all. If there are factual errors on the page, you should bring them up on the article's talk page and allow uninvolved editors to make the necessary changes. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 12:44, 4 July 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia CST page

The 2012 study qualifying for an MPhil is not the argument, Dan - even though it's been successfully peer-reviewed for publication this Autumn: it's that it's one of about 50 studies undertaken independently in different parts of the world all of which show definable benefits to participants in the study. This is why describing the therapy as quackery is wrong. The studies replicate the experience clients undertaking the therapy generally find. I don't know whether any of you guys have ever tried it. In a way, this feels like a fruitless discussion especially reading the general tone of previous and recent comments. Nothing I say will change anything. Further research will continue albeit over a long period simply because the cost can be mind-boggling. People will continue to be treated. Peoplemapsdavid (talk) 17:15, 4 July 2013 (UTC)David.

Take it to the article talk page. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 17:40, 4 July 2013 (UTC)

Alloy Digital Page

Would you mind taking a look at the changes I made to the Alloy Digital talk page? I would love to further develop the site-hopefully with your assistance and knowledge! Me bernstein (talk) 14:26, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

Sorry -- I did see your earlier requests. I just haven't had the time necessary to examine the page in depth to assess the sources available. Perhaps you can request input from WP:WikiProject Media. There should be some interested and knowledgeable editors there who can help you expand your article. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!!

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Tony Accardo

Hi Dan,

Sorry about involving Prabesh.

I have added a reference. Sorry for not having done so earlier.

May I now include my revision?

Thanks,

Eric

Tony Accardo

Sorry yet again for my ignorance. I'm really much brighter than I appear here.

In any event, I did indeed add the source for the information I added to the aforementioned article. I do realize the controversial nature of my addition, so I deeply apologize for not first having learned how to add sources and references.

Please let me know if there's anything else I need to do, and I will happily comply.

Thanks again,

Eric Chicago Outfit Films (talk) 13:46, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

I can't say I'm 100% comfortable with the nature of the citation you have provided. It is written by a person named "Gary Anthony" whom you claim to be "Gary Olsen" but we have no way of knowing if that is true. I suppose if the book clarifies this information, that would be OK, but until I can get my hands on the book for verification, I'll have to [[WP:AGF|assume good faith] that the book verifies the information provided. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 14:41, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

Reverted changes

I work for the Dr Hadwen Trust and have been asked to updated our page. Is using our Logo against the copyright terms?

SantinoMareri (talk) 13:50, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

The copyright status of the DHT logo is pretty well explained on its page: the logo is not eligible for copyright in the United States, where the en-wiki servers are located and whose laws govern such things, because it consists only of typography and words, but no actual graphical image elements. It is not clear that the same copyright exemption exists in the UK, but the file is fine to include on the en-wiki (again, US laws govern).

That being said, I should direct your attention to Wikipedia's conflict of interest policy. As an employee of DHT, you should not be editing the page to your employer's liking. That's not how Wikipedia works. What we have now is a page that fairly represents the operations of DHT, with some good independent sources. What we do not need is DHT's own version of what they would like the world to know about them: they have their own website for that. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 13:56, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

How create Wikipedia in a brand new language?

Dear WikiDan61,

I would like to begin creating Wikipedia pages in a language currently not used on Wikipedia. The language is called Gangte. Being able to share information with other members of the same language group is a powerful tool. Thanks to Wikipedia, groups from around the world can now promote education and knowledge on a number of topics, regardless of language. How would I go about adding Gangte to the many other languages already being used in Wikipedia?

Thank you very much! Savegangte (talk) 20:31, 10 July 2013 (UTC) Savegangte (talk) 20:18, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

The guidelines to creating a Wikipedia in a new language are listed here. The process seems a bit cumbersome, but basically you'll need to make an initial proposal. If your proposal is accepted, a test wiki will be created in the Wikimedia incubator, and you (as the proposer) will need to recruit other Gangte speakers to begin the task of creating articles (either from scratch or by translating articles from other wikis). If sufficient content is generated, indicating sufficient interest from your language group, the wiki may find its way to actual publication. At that point, it would exist at http://gnb.wikipedia.org. It sounds like an ambitious project; I wish you all the luck in the world! WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 10:53, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

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Cloud Sherpas - Page Updates

Hello - I have started to update the Cloud Sherpas page with factual up-to-date content, and it looks as though you have reverted back to a very old version. The version you reverted to is no longer representative of the company that Cloud Sherpas is today. I will be updating this page over the next week, and I was wondering if you could please not revert to old versions while I am doing so.

Thank you, Cassieonelson (talk) 17:13, 12 July 2013 (UTC)cassieonelson

I'm sorry, the version you had created was entirely too promotional. Looking back through the history of the page, I selected the last one that didn't seem like complete spam. Update if you must, but only in neutral tones. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 17:35, 12 July 2013 (UTC)

Neutrality

That sounds terribly like censorship to me Dan. I'm speaking on behalf of a Chicago based user of craniosacral therapy (not a therapist: a client)who asked me for help because the edits she's tried to make to the site over the last month have been changed back quickly. Peoplemapsdavid (talk) 18:34, 13 July 2013 (UTC)

I'm sorry if you or your friend (client?) feel censored, but Wikipedia does strive to maintain neutrality, and users have been banned from editing on certain topics for refusal to follow that policy. I do not have any authority to stop you from editing the article. I was only giving suggestions to prevent you from running afoul of the guidelines. Edit as you wish and see what happens. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 20:07, 13 July 2013 (UTC)

Neutrality

She's not a friend, Dan - just someone who emailed me out of the blue. She's based in Chicago; I'm in the UK. As background to reinforce what I'm about to say, I'm not a starry-eyed young therapist but a retired businessman who came into therapeutic Practice late and has run a successful Practice for several years mostly based on referrals. There is no balance between the two sides of the argument shown on the Wikipedia page.. The negative comments are based on research carried out by a handful of Academics with a number of journalistic and other articles based on that research. The quackery comment was one Academic's comment arising from his view that the lack of evidence amounts to quackery. It can't truly be said that growing scientific consensus etc etc. It can be said that a small number of academics find the science wanting. I have no problem with the pseudoscience comment and didn't try to change it. I accept that the currently taught hypothesis is flawed and capable of being improved. Research is very expensive (only really affordable by pharmaceutical companies) and available funds are currently concentrated on showing that the therapy is effective. I've tried to remove the quackery and scientific consensus comments because I think them unbalanced; and also tried writing in a comment about the 50 worldwide studies being taken together as evidence to counter-balance the negative studies. My view is that the casual reader should be given room to make up their own minds without the use of pejorative adjectives such as quackery. Allow this to be removed without changing it back and also the comment about the 50 studies and I'll get out of your hair. Peoplemapsdavid (talk) 13:05, 14 July 2013 (UTC)

As I've said before, take it up on the article talk page, where others knowledgeable in the field can evaluate the issue. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 18:37, 14 July 2013 (UTC)