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Regarding my Draft: Hans O. Lüders

Hello @Theroadislong, I revised my draft and added references where needed. Please let me know if there are any more changes needed. Thank-you, Caroline Rosenow Crosenow (talk) 11:01, 21 March 2024 (UTC)

Reliable source

Where can i find reliable sources KungfuPanda2008 (talk) 19:02, 21 March 2024 (UTC)

I'm afraid it seems quite likely that they simply don't exist, which means we cannot have an article about Sandeep Anand. Theroadislong (talk) 19:07, 21 March 2024 (UTC)

Please let me add these sources. When I find other sources, I will add them too. KungfuPanda2008 (talk) 23:29, 21 March 2024 (UTC)

You are free to add them, but they will be ignored by reviewers because they are not reliable. Theroadislong (talk) 23:31, 21 March 2024 (UTC)

You said I'm free to add them. Please let me add these sources. KungfuPanda2008 (talk) 08:10, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

Regarding my Draft: Hans O. Lüders

Hello @Theroadislong, I removed the ISBN numbers from the references and added a link instead. I also added a text to the introduction with a reference to each quote. (Please see my comment on the page). I also used some of the references multiple times. Unfortunately they are listed as separate references. How can I correctly use a reference in the text multiple times? Thanks for your help! Crosenow (talk) 12:02, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

Update on article - ABUBAKAR SANI

Thanks for the comment Theo, I have removed the external link from the body of the article ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Abubakar_Sani ) Like you advised, I'd appreciate it if you can take a look. I am relying on your approval before submitting my first article for review. ~Ana (talk) 18:56, 24 March 2024 (UTC)

Christiana Stanley You have also removed some of the references which isn't helpful. You need to submit the draft to get a review. Theroadislong (talk) 19:16, 24 March 2024 (UTC)

Alash Online

Hello, this is not a blog, it is an independent site for analytical and investigative journalism. Please look with the help of a translator. You are being misleading. 37.99.43.29 (talk) 21:21, 24 March 2024 (UTC)

I was referring to this https://flashpress.kz/blog/flash/177980.html which definitely IS a blog I am NOT being misleading. Theroadislong (talk) 21:32, 24 March 2024 (UTC)

https://flashpress-kz.translate.goog/page/about?_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=ru&_x_tr_pto=wapp 37.99.42.76 (talk) 23:29, 24 March 2024 (UTC)

You didn't look through the translator again. THIS IS NOT A BLOG! 37.99.42.76 (talk) 23:30, 24 March 2024 (UTC)

reliable sources

Hello Theroadislong,

thanks for your comments on the page about Puck Koper i am working at. I have a question reading this comment. In general I understand that Goodreads and Youtube can be unreliable sources. In this case I used Goodreads to establish the bibliography and found 2 interviews with the subject where she speaks about her work. It is no issue for the page to just erase the references but i would like to lean why in this case I should not use them. In my humble opinion in the way I use them I consider them very reliable. Is it a general wikipedia rule not to use these kind of sources? Roepot (talk) 23:27, 27 March 2024 (UTC)

Goodreads is user generated so not remotely reliable and the YouTube video is an interview so not independent. Theroadislong (talk) 08:07, 28 March 2024 (UTC)

Is this allowed?

Hi Theroadislong, you seem very knowledgeable and experienced in AfC matters, so I wanted to ask you something before making any decisions. Draft:Lewis Josselyn was recreated and recently submitted after having been deleted by AfD community consensus in September. Is it ok for it to just be submitted straightaway like this? Or does it need to undergo deletion review at WP:DRV? The submitting user was very active in the AfD, and even acknowledges the AfD on the draft talk page, so he is well aware. Left guide (talk) 10:44, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

Yes this is allowed, I'm not an admin so can't compare the different versions. The draft looks like it might pass though because his work has been included in the permanent collections of several renowned galleries and museums. I'll leave it for another reviewer though as I always seem to be declining his drafts. Theroadislong (talk) 10:50, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

citations

Hi,

I appreciate that you took the time to leave a comment on a draft bio that another reviewer rejected with the comment "References not formatted in the appropriate way."

You suggested "Please read WP:REFB for help with correctly formatting sources.

"

I know that I'm new here, but I had read that. All sources were live web links to reliable sources and I don't see anything in guidance about inline citations that I would have violated. The original reviewer said simply "use footnotes," but the draft has footnotes for each inline citation.

Can you help provide any guidance? Amp-e728 (talk) 22:01, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

Are you sure you have read WP:REFB? We simply don't use any "live web links" in article space. Theroadislong (talk) 22:11, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

I don't know how I missed that. I will go back and learn it and edit appropriately. Amp-e728 (talk) 02:18, 30 March 2024 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) The References section is empty. Where are the footnotes that should go in there? Please also read Links normally to be avoided. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 01:26, 30 March 2024 (UTC)

I will. Thank you Amp-e728 (talk) 02:17, 30 March 2024 (UTC)

Request on 06:24:21, 30 March 2024 for assistance on AfC submission by Gmcbphysiology

• Gmcbphysiology (talk · contribs)
  • User:Gmcbphysiology/sandbox (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Dear Theroadislong, thank you very much for your review, basically i am planning to create page for helath profession educator of india who have contributed lot in improvement of health profession education in India. I reallise that reference for the same are not enough, Please guide me how to create page as its gratitude to the senior eductors who spent their whole life and now retired and still working for improvement in Health profession educaiton. your help will be of great help

Gmcbphysiology (talk) 06:24, 30 March 2024 (UTC)

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Draft:William John Titus Bishop

Dear TheRoadisLong,

I hope all is well. Thank you for your comments on this draft. After taking these into account I have removed a number of the sources which you suggest are not appropriate for the article.

All my Love,

TopG1985 Topg1985 (talk) 19:01, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

No the draft Draft:William John Titus Bishop remains the same with refbombing and issue. Theroadislong (talk) 19:06, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

Dear TheRoadIsLong,

I was under the impression more references were a good thing. What do you mean by the ‘draft remains the same’, I’ve just removed three references, and re-written it several times?

All my Love,

William Topg1985 (talk) 19:14, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

OK but you had not yet edited the draft when you posted to my page. It will need much more hacking back of junk sources see WP:REFBOMBING. Theroadislong (talk) 19:20, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

Nomination of Where is Kate? for deletion

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About This

Could you put this into where it's supposed to be? 92.249.183.225 (talk) 13:59, 1 April 2024 (UTC)

No there is no reason to send the article to WP:AFD? Theroadislong (talk) 14:02, 1 April 2024 (UTC)

It's April Fools... - 92.249.183.225 (talk) 14:07, 1 April 2024 (UTC)

So? Theroadislong (talk) 14:15, 1 April 2024 (UTC)

Joke deletion discussions are allowed. - 92.249.183.225 (talk) 14:19, 1 April 2024 (UTC)

Could you link me that policy? Synorem (talk) 14:22, 1 April 2024 (UTC)

Apparently it is allowed according to WP:Rules for Fools but clearly competence is required and I have no desire to partake in the foolery. Theroadislong (talk) 14:28, 1 April 2024 (UTC)

Also odd for a new IP editor to know bout 'joke' AfD discussions - smells of old socks KylieTastic (talk) 15:51, 1 April 2024 (UTC)

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Thanks, but again, help!

I have seen that useful peace of information you left with me. I'm in dilemma: I've read somewhere that Wikipedia articles can't cross reference themselves. So I relied heavily on external sources. Assuming you'll have time to go through it, please advise me on how I do it. Thanks. Dee Soulza (talk) 16:53, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

Concern regarding Draft:Pedro Esqueda Ramirez

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Draft:Family Star

See Draft:Family Star#Critical reception. The film already released and has 5 reliable reviews. We can redirect Draft:The Family Star to Family Star after moving it. DareshMohan (talk) 19:28, 5 April 2024 (UTC)

Declined

Please u have declined my article twice and I don't know the mistake I have done, please tell me the mistakes and give me the solution to it and break down your English because I am an African so use simple English please 🙏 Hellboi flick (talk) 06:41, 7 April 2024 (UTC)

Your draft Draft:Kidi rexon has no sources, reliable sources are what we base articles on, find the sources that support the content and add them, but be aware that Kidi Rexon will need to pass the criteria at WP:NSINGER first. Theroadislong (talk) 07:13, 7 April 2024 (UTC)

WP:NSINGER

Please what is WP:NSINGER Hellboi flick (talk) 07:21, 7 April 2024 (UTC)

WP:NSINGER click the link, is the criteria that they need to pass in order to justify having an article about them. Theroadislong (talk) 07:25, 7 April 2024 (UTC)

kk but it suits all criteria perfectly, u can confirm it your self on google search and etc, therefore if a program is held and there is no kidi Rexon the program will be canceled course no 1 will come for the event Hellboi flick (talk) 07:54, 7 April 2024 (UTC)

Sorry, I think there may be a language barrier here, there is zero evidence in your draft to suggest that they pass the criteria at WP:NSINGER. Theroadislong (talk) 08:05, 7 April 2024 (UTC)

Oh kk then I think I am the 1 that's not explaine or put things in place well

The u want me to start the draft all over with a new article and start everything afresh?

Sorry for disturbing u kk, buh I need to do this for my artist Hellboi flick (talk) 08:52, 7 April 2024 (UTC)

Announced Old account as...

Not only disclosed, but terminated because of a 🐛 bug on Userpage per regs. Appreciate the reminder. Four of Sixteen (talk) 09:05, 8 April 2024 (UTC)

This is NO sock....

...at all. I tried to log on earlier, only that I got thrown out repeatedly. The primary one was to have been terminated, as I had to set up one to avoid a bug. Stated this on wp:an about this matter. Is there a bug here? I have found some sources that I am trying to place here, two are in wp:teahouse. I just joined up when this happened. I'll ask about this to a Admin. Four of Sixteen (talk) 08:17, 8 April 2024 (UTC)

Contrib history: the wp:an had the matter on it referring to the FACT that I had repeatedly got thrown out everytime I tried by to log in. So does .y Contrib history. As stated, some kind of 🐛 bug kept throwing me out every time I tried to log in with the old account, so I had to create a new one so that I can log in here. I am at the wp:teahouse trying to get help placing sources when this appeared. Four of Sixteen (talk) 08:36, 8 April 2024 (UTC)

Quack, quack, quack. Theroadislong (talk) 14:17, 8 April 2024 (UTC)

Query from Mornington Glory

Thanks for your comment "Please remove all external links from the body of the draft," sorry to be clunky can I just clarify what an external link is? I'm not up to speed with all the precise language of wiki, can they usually be replaced with a citation?

Love your pics of pots Mornington Glory (talk) 13:58, 8 April 2024 (UTC)

Changed the wiki ref (4) knew that was wrong but kept not fixing it Thanks Mornington Glory (talk) 14:07, 8 April 2024 (UTC)

The external links include [1], [2], [3], [4] and [5]. Theroadislong (talk) 14:13, 8 April 2024 (UTC)

Apologies, now I'm very confused, I thought these were citations - info where they can be found listed in References at the end From what you are saying it looks as if all the citations references should be removed Mornington Glory (talk) 14:32, 8 April 2024 (UTC)

You can turn them into citations (see WP:REFB for help) but at the moment they are just bare external links. Theroadislong (talk) 14:45, 8 April 2024 (UTC)

Thank you, I will have a go later Mornington Glory (talk) 15:05, 8 April 2024 (UTC)

Help

Hello! I noticed that you declined my submission, I was wondering if you could help me with my article! Catcarrillo (talk) 17:06, 8 April 2024 (UTC)

Your draft Draft:Kitty Noir doesn't show how the subject would pass WP:NSINGER and please note that interviews are not considered to be reliable independent sources. Theroadislong (talk) 17:11, 8 April 2024 (UTC)

Emilia Roosmann

A draft article on Emilia Roosmann was submitted by Zeuz3000 on 22 November 2023 but was declined by you. That user contacted me for help (see here). I replied on their talkpage (here) but never heard from them. Today I had a go at improving the draft so that it could be resubmitted for creation.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 06:57, 9 April 2024 (UTC)10:17, 9 April 2024 (UTC)

I just accepted it. Cheers. Theroadislong (talk) 07:02, 9 April 2024 (UTC)

Thanks mate.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 10:17, 9 April 2024 (UTC)

Request on 14:40:12, 9 April 2024 for assistance on AfC submission by HistoryofJournalism

• HistoryofJournalism (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:New Book Authors Publishing (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Question: I spent several hours writing an article. One of the reasons it was declined is lack of notability. However, the company falls under the same umbrella as other print on demand publishers that have Wikipedia pages. Also Dorrance Publishing uses its own website links as sources to at least 5 references on its Wikipedia page. I see a few Amazon links too, so the policy is confusing.

In terms of the company I wrote about, I found independent information about the company, mostly business related articles, trademark, or government references. Does that suffice for sources?

Some of the authors published by this company have their own Wikipedia pages and those books are listed on their own Wikipedia pages. If the people being published by this company are notable enough for a Wikipedia page, and their books are notable enough to be mentioned in a Wikipedia article, then why wouldn't the publisher of these books not be notable enough for its own Wikipedia page? They seem to be a go-to for journalists and even some politicians. Given the high number of Google searches and high page rank, the company appears to be well known. I also noticed that a number of similar companies that are listed on Wikipedia and publish using similar publishing models have Wikipedia pages.

I don't want my past few hours to have been spent in vain so hopefully you can answer the questions about the sources. Thank you! DJ HistoryofJournalism (talk) 14:40, 9 April 2024 (UTC)

See other poor quality articles exist for that argument Dorrance Publishing Company is not a good example to follow though it doesn't use Amazon as a source as you suggest. The fact that they publish notable people has no relevance at all as notability cannot be inherited, the company needs to pass WP:NCORP which very clearly doesn't yet. Theroadislong (talk) 14:46, 9 April 2024 (UTC)

Please also read WP:REFB your sources are dumped in an external links section, they need to be positioned directly after the content that they support. Theroadislong (talk) 14:48, 9 April 2024 (UTC)

rioconn interactive

iam new here. Can you give me any solution for my article. KERALAMAN (talk) 15:11, 9 April 2024 (UTC)

If you were starting to learn engineering, would you make your first project to build a car from scratch? If you took up a musical instrument, would you arrange a public recital as the first thing you did? No, you would practise on less demanding projects while you learnt the craft.

I would very strongly advise you that you will save yourself a great deal of frustration and disappointment if you forget about creating a new article for several months, while you gradually learn about how Wikipedia works (and most particularly about Verifiability, reliable sources, and Neutral point of view) by making improvements to some of our six million existing articles. Theroadislong (talk) 15:17, 9 April 2024 (UTC)

John Paul deceased (scientist)

Hi. I just spent ages researching, writing, creating and correcting an article about a scientist deceased at the end of last century. It was a draft and I'm a beginner. I am trying to recover the article that I wrote so that I don't have to redo all my work. Can you please help advise? Gcwcd (talk) 16:11, 9 April 2024 (UTC)

It was deleted because it was copied and pasted from The Independent newspaper, copyright violations can't be restored, you need to write everything here in your own words. The deleting admin User:Drmies can probably tell you more Theroadislong (talk) 16:14, 9 April 2024 (UTC)

Thanks--I left a note on their talk page. Drmies (talk) 16:18, 9 April 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for doing this. I really appreciate your help and input. Unfortunately there is still only a very small portion of the article and all its citations. I didn't copy anything from the Independent newspaper. I cited an article in the paper (the obituary of the scientist who was the subject) but didn't quote anything from it. Gcwcd (talk) 17:12, 9 April 2024 (UTC)

Unsubmitting a draft question

Hey I was wondering if it is possible to unsubmit a draft without losing any of the work that has been done on it? I was told by user NoobThreePointOh that you might know how to do that. The draft in question is Draft:Charles Keating IV. On NoobThreePointOh's talk page there is more info on the situation. 98.97.43.27 (talk) 17:37, 9 April 2024 (UTC)

 Done Theroadislong (talk) 18:29, 9 April 2024 (UTC)

Thank you. 98.97.43.27 (talk) 01:01, 10 April 2024 (UTC)

can you please help on updating the content you just declined

the article about Yusuph Kileo GMako6 (talk) 18:32, 11 April 2024 (UTC)

Now Ready To Resubmit

Hellow Theroadislong. Through your guidance, I managed to exercise patience and corrected such errors and inadequacies. Now, am about to make a resubmission and your scrutiny is as important as ever. I wish you a good day. Dee Soulza (talk) 16:29, 12 April 2024 (UTC)

OK I try not to review twice in a row, so will leave it for another reviewer. Theroadislong (talk) 16:41, 12 April 2024 (UTC)

Ok. Have a great day. Dee Soulza (talk) 18:54, 12 April 2024 (UTC)

Thanks.

Thank you for having me here. Dee Soulza (talk) 19:19, 12 April 2024 (UTC)

can you pls suggest me edits in my article

i am unable to meet the crtiteria can just plz suggest me what i am lacking in my article Manya2707 (talk) 03:29, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

I gave them my standard deletion notice which is chock full of helpful links -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 04:29, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

Request to delete draft of Stiven Mikhail.

Hello sir, I submit to Stiven Mikhail's drafts every time But Stiven Mikhail's draft is declined every time.Please help me fix this draft.If Stiven Mikhail's draft is not fixable So please delete Stiven Mikhail's draft as soon as possible.It will be your great kindness. Gairathimonikagairathi (talk) 07:19, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) @Gairathimonikagairathi: please don't go around asking for reviewers to improve the draft, that's not our job. And it's pointless you requesting for it to be deleted, either, as it's not your draft (as in, you didn't create it, and aren't the sole or even a major contributor to it) so that request couldn't be actioned in any case. Thank you. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 07:41, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

Review page

Hi there! I think I managed to improve the article Draft:Yana Deliradeva, if possible can you see it and tell me if I did a good job with it? I did everything you and DoubleGrazing told me to, I added every reliable source information I could get my hands at, including some scientific papers, radio articles, degree proof from a reliable source and fixed the inline external links from the body text. Skimliii (talk) 12:03, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

Please Delate Chamar word in Siyal caste article.

• https://stsc.odisha.gov.in/sites/default/files/2020-02/ScheduledCast_List.pdf 2020 recent Government reliable source This source List number -19 was Chamar and Chamar Subcaste , List -86 was Siyal and Siyal subcaste, This source is provided Chamar and Siyal two different caste.

Ramachbehera1 (talk) 13:51, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

Remove Chamar word in Siyal Caste article

https://stsc.odisha.gov.in/sites/default/files/2020-02/ScheduledCast_List.pdf 2020 recent Government reliable source This source List number -19 was Chamar and Chamar Subcaste , List -86 was Siyal and Siyal subcaste, This source is provided Chamar and Siyal two different caste. Remove Chamar word in siyal caste article. Ramachbehera1 (talk) 14:54, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

That's a 75 year old primary source, you might be better finding something more recent and independent, the entire article appears to be rather archaic in tone. Theroadislong (talk) 14:59, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

https://socialjustice.gov.in/writereaddata/UploadFile/CONSTITUTION%20(SC)%20ORDER%201950%20dated%2010081950.pdf 1950 Govt reliable source.This is 74 year old primary source was proved that siyal and Chamar two different caste. Ramachbehera1 (talk) 15:16, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

One source can't be write a article. All the source proved siyal and chamar two different caste.Source are like *Singh, K.S.: People of India: Odisha (2 pts.) (1992) and all other book. Ramachbehera1 (talk) 15:19, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

Delete this source because it create social violence in our society and our State. Ramachbehera1 (talk) 15:21, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

Wikipedia Page

What sources would help. Rosalie is deceased and she doesn't have many sources. This is from my article on Rozalie Martinez. Smartfunnypeople (talk) 17:05, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

Sorry but the lack of sources is a clear indication that Martinez is not notable in Wikipedia terms. Theroadislong (talk) 17:23, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

The Fibrolamellar Registry, draft page

Dear Theroadislong,

Thank you for your response regarding our Wikipedia draft page for the Fibrolamellar Registry (i.e. the Fibroregistry). We would like to clarify a couple of points regarding your description of our draft page. You say that our draft page, “reads like an advertisement”.

In fact, the page was modeled after a number of other non-profit patient advocacy groups, such as the Cystic Fibrosis Foundation page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cystic_Fibrosis_Foundation

Far less descriptions of activities and successes were included than in the Cystic Fibrosis Foundation page, thinking such would sound aggrandizing. Instead the focus is on the science issues that are enabled by the work of the Fibroregistry.  Therefore, it is confusing why you would think the draft page sounds like an advertisement given the content existing in the Cystic Fibrosis Foundation page.  Indeed, unlike these other groups, none of the Fibroregistry personnel are paid for their involvement, and all are either patients or care-givers: Not hired non-profit workers.

The references cited are in high-impact peer-reviewed scientific journals. These include Nature Reviews Cancer (impact factor 69.8), Cancer Discovery (impact factor 39.4), and Science Advances (impact factor 13.6), etc.  

Further, the Fibroregistry is cited as the source of valuable information in articles published in peer-reviewed science journals with high impact factors including the Nature Reviews Cancer (impact factor 69.8), Science Advances (impact factor 13.6), JCI Insight (impact factor 8), Hepatology Communications (5.7) and Cancers (impact factor 5.2).

We feel the draft page is well referenced to peer reviewed science journals, the Fibroregistry itself is highly cited in peer-reviewed science journals, and the Fibroregistry draft page is more rigorously sourced than many of the existing Wikipedia pages.

Could you please point out some of the sentences in our draft Fibroregistry page you feel are “Advertising” so we can either reword, or remove, them?

Thank you for your attention to this matter.

1979HondaMoped 1979HondaMoped (talk) 19:45, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

Sorry but the whole draft reads just like advertising to me. Wikipedia is NOT for merely providing information. A Wikipedia article about an organisation must summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about them, showing how it meets Wikipedia's special definition of a notable organisation. Wikipedia has no interest in what you want to say about it only in what others unaffiliated with the business choose to say about it. Also see other stuff exists. You are free to resubmit and get other opinions. Theroadislong (talk) 19:54, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

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Siyal caste occupation

Siyal caste major occupation Toddy Tapping, Cultivation, Wage. They are not working palm-leaf mat or basket makers please edit this article. *This source provide that-:https://www.scstrti.in/index.php/communities/sc-communities/108-sc-communities/415-siyal Ramachbehera1 (talk) 05:20, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

Change Siyal Caste wrong occupation

Siyal caste major occupation Toddy Tapping, Cultivation, Wage. They are not working palm-leaf mat or basket makers please edit this article. *This source provide that-:https://www.scstrti.in/index.php/communities/sc-communities/108-sc-communities/415-siyal Ramachbehera1 (talk) 05:34, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

Stiven Mikhail

can you please help me bring this back to main space ? Ildivino1010 (talk) 06:21, 28 March 2024 (UTC)

You need to submit it for review, but before that you need to address the paid editing. Theroadislong (talk) 08:09, 28 March 2024 (UTC)

I have no idea about this paid editing. How would I even start to address it ? I'm asking for your help because I have no clue how to get this page back up. It says paid editing and non reliable sources ? National news paper is not reliable ? Can you please advise how I would go about this. I appreciate the reply Ildivino1010 (talk) 07:48, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

again I will continue to repeat the same messages. I AM NOT A PAID EDITOR I HAVE NEVER RECEIVED ANY PAYMENT. Instead of repeating the same thing can someone help ? Ildivino1010 (talk) 09:31, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

You have said on your talk page that the person works for you, this would mean that you would be considered to be a paid editor. Theroadislong (talk) 09:35, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

I don't think you understand. I am scout who works for a football club and he works for another football club. In what way am I a paid editor ? I do not get paid to make a Wikipedia page ? This is becoming very frustrating. Can you just delete the page then since no one is willing to help ? I really don't understand why you guys keep giving a hard time. Mikhail meets all criteria and yet you keep going on about paid editing which I have disclosed a million times and you keep bringing up the same thing. He does.not work for me and I am not paid to make.wikipedia edits Ildivino1010 (talk) 10:09, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

Anything else I can do ? Or can we delete ? Ildivino1010 (talk) 05:42, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

Editing with reliable sources

I have failed to save my improved edits with reliable sources after the tags you put on my draft page. how can I edit and save so that I may resubmit for review when all terms and conditions are met. that is when the necessary information has been gathered for the article. thanks Stnts256 (talk) 14:59, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

You have re-submitted Draft:Jamil Kusiima and another reviewer will take a look shortly. You have very few independent sources though, his own works cannot be used to establish notability and other sources do not load for me so I cannot evaluate them. Theroadislong (talk) 15:28, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

Comment: looks like it has been copied and pasted from somewhere? on draft wikipage on Jan Poolman

Hi Theroadislong, you commented on the draft wikipedia page on Jan Poolman that looks like it is has been copied and pasted from somewhere. This is not the case. I wrote the page myself - I prepared it in word and later in my wiki-sandbox. There are some citations in there but they are indicated by "". So if that is the only reason why you rejected the page I wonder if you can accept it after this response of me.

note that I also have written the wikipedia page in dutch - If I need to add that that is also fine with me I can do that. The Dutch version is a translation of the English version.

Please let me know what I should change to get it accepted.

best Wikicluck44 Wikicluck44 (talk) 17:13, 5 April 2024 (UTC)

The reason I thought it might have been copied and pasted from somewhere is the weird repeating of the phrase "brontekst bewerken". Theroadislong (talk) 18:36, 5 April 2024 (UTC)

Hi Theroadislong, ok I see your point - "brontekst bewerken" is Dutch and is there I think because I am new to this and I prepared the text in the Dutch wikipedia sandbox...and copy pasted it to the English wikipedia - it didn't catch my attention because I thought it was there because it was not published yet. I will remove those texts. And I will also work on your other comments by removing the succesfull / prolific wording. Will do so coming days and will resubmit. Thank you for reviewing the text so fast and to give me your feedback! Appreciated a lot.

best Wikicluck44 Wikicluck44 (talk) 19:47, 5 April 2024 (UTC)

Hi, I have removed all "succesfull", prolific, the (R)s and other non-neutral wording. Could you please review again?

Best Wikicluck44 Wikicluck44 (talk) 06:31, 8 April 2024 (UTC)

Hi Theroadislong, I adjusted the wording into neutral wording, removed all the (R)s. Could you please review and approve to publish? Or otherwise indicate how I could improve the text so that you will approve it?

Best Wikicluck44 (talk) 07:02, 9 April 2024 (UTC)

Hi theroadislong, thanks for checking my draft wikipage, still under construction... You commented the following:"Please don't add external links to the body of the draft, we don't use them." I am struggling a bit with this. So if I place a reference with the text - and there is a pdf or full text of it available, how can I best add the external link to the reference? Should I do this within the reference list? And I see in other wikipages a section with external links - can I create such a section and add relevant external links there? e.g. the researchgate external link shows the number of articles Jan Poolman has written but also the number of reads and citations, which give an impression whether he is indeed seen as an expert in the field of bacterial vaccines by others. Wikicluck44 (talk) 16:45, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

Yes best to keep external links in a section called "External links" at the bottom of the article. Theroadislong (talk) 16:49, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for the advice TheRoadIsLong - I have adapted the references and external links and resubmitted. Hopefully you can approve the article this time. Best Wikicluck44 (talk) 11:48, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

Editing Bonnie Rychlak Draft Page

While I appreciate your feedback, I'm still at a loss to understand the sole criteria you are applying for notability for an artist, which is providing links to collections in public institutions. I have several problems with this criteria. First, this is the first time I'm hearing of it. It seems rather arbitrary. Second, there are literally hundreds of Wikipedia pages for artists that don't meet this standard. Perhaps not coincidentally, the majority of these are pages for male artists. I undertook the task of writing this entry based on my own assessment (as an internationally recognized and widely published art historian)of the notability of this individual. Moreover, I am answering the call of the Women Artist Project to narrow the gap between pages on Wikipedia for male and female artists. Also, Rychlak is notable for her role as both artist and curator. Her role as a leading authority on the Japanese American artist Isamu Noguchi with an extensive list of exhibitions and publications alone is noteworthy. I would really like to get this entry before someone from the Women Artist Project, who I believe would be positioned to provide the best feedback on this article. Would you be able to advise as to how that could be done? Thank you. Gaw54 (talk) 23:44, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

I am part of the Women in Red Project. One of the criteria for WP:NARTIST is having works in public collections, museums etc. Rychlak meets this critera, but you had no sources to support the collections, add those and I can accept the draft. Theroadislong (talk) 05:50, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

Women in Red May 2024

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--Lajmmoore (talk 06:18, 28 April 2024 (UTC) via MassMessaging

Draft:Trinity Saioo

Thanks For The Comment, I have Added because there should not any mistake. Pediabywiki (talk) 16:44, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

Hello

Hi, sorry could you make your explanation more simple, I am not a smart person and I apologize for that. Theduckguy (talk) 17:50, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

Your draft User:Theduckguy/sandbox has zero independent, reliable sources and that is what we base articles on, content like "Thedu_ckguy is an emerging social media influencer known for his presence on various platforms including Instagram, YouTube, and TikTok." is fine on social media but this is an encyclopaedia. Once newspapers and magazines start reporting on him/you, there is the possibility of an article in the future, but not yet. Theroadislong (talk) 18:13, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

Feedback

Hi there, I appreciate you look through my submission. I was just wondering could you give me some feedback and what I can do to improve my chances of my article being accepted. Is it the sources I'm using? I'm very new to this so any help would be greatly appreciated. Take care, Martynlukeact (talk) 09:35, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

Lisa Frank

At the Help Desk, you wrote "If Lisa Frank passes WP:NARTIST you could start an article ...". That's a bit confusing. If it's the same Lisa Frank, there's no need to start an article. If a different one, it's a mistake to link to her article. (I don't know whether they're the same). Maproom (talk) 09:09, 1 May 2024 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/India_Art_Festival - Rejection by You

India Art Festival page created by me was rejected. After that it was edited and made nutral but it was rejected again.

India Art Festival is the only art fair in India happening in four cities and founded by the people associated with oldest public institutions. The content in page supported by well known newspapers in India is not a paid content by the event. Even if Google search is done on India Art Festival, you will find thousands of entries on this public event for emerging and young artists.

I do not have aurgument on rejection as it is for wikipedia to decide but this is arbitary and unjustified rejection. India Art Festival is public event and do not need advertisement on wikipedia. RAKL85 (talk) 15:11, 1 May 2024 (UTC)

Your draft Draft:India Art Festival was declined not rejected, The Times of India is not considered to be a reliable source, perhpas you could find better sources? Theroadislong (talk) 15:14, 1 May 2024 (UTC)

Hi

As you mentioned, The Times of India is not a reliable source. I have seen 'Waluscha De Sousa' has most of the resources of The Times of India on her Wikipedia. Harwant Singh Arora (talk) 07:28, 2 May 2024 (UTC)

See other stuff exists. Theroadislong (talk) 07:53, 2 May 2024 (UTC)

Cindy Ji Hye Kim

Thank you very much for reviewing this page. Is there anything I can do to get the title unprotected (and approved)? Diaeinsofa (talk) 16:22, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

It will need an admin's attention, I don't know why it was protected initially. Theroadislong (talk) 17:05, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

@Diaeinsofa I have requested it be unprotected at WP:Requests for page protection/Decrease#Cindy Ji Hye Kim. TRIS, it might be good idea for you post a note there concurring the draft is acceptable. S0091 (talk) 17:24, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

That was quick. Have at it TRIS! S0091 (talk) 17:34, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

Thank you both for your help! Is there anything else I can do to move this forward? Diaeinsofa (talk) 12:50, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Draft:Kerstin Preiwuß

Hello Theroadislong,

thank you for your comment on my draft.

According to WP:NWRITER, the creative professional is supposed to have won "significant critical attention". A nomination for the the German Book Prize is considered highly prestigious in the German speaking literature community and there are always lots of mentionings of the fact in the media following such a nomination. Also, the Eichendorff Prize and the prizes of the Deutsche Schillerstiftung are very reputable. So, doesn't that identify the author as notable?

Takeru Watanabe (talk) 19:24, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

I am not at all sure that Draft:Kerstin Preiwuß meets the criteria at WP:NWRITER, it's not clear to me that the nomination and prizes are notable in Wikipedia terms, so I have left it for another reviewer to have a look. Theroadislong (talk) 20:39, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

Thank you very much for your answer and your support! Takeru Watanabe (talk) 20:48, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

IMDB

Hi there

I am not leaving imdb as a source but just as a matter of interest for the work that the company has done. Is this allowed?

Karinvanderlaag (talk) 15:50, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

Ok I just commented because IMDB will be ignored when reviewing. We also don't reviewer remove comments. Theroadislong (talk) 16:44, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

Arlene Lien Personal Life

hey how are you doin!

so for the personal life part, they dont want the kids to know about the whole surrogacy thing as the family wishes for it to be private. Are you okay with leaving that part out? Antwan123123 (talk) 06:37, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

Do you have a conflict of interest here? The content is in the public domain and was well sourced. Theroadislong (talk) 06:58, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

I’m a family friend. I’m being told the family does not wish to let the kids know about their surrogacy on social media and wishes to tell their kids in private when the time is right. I understand the article about the kids is public news but they should learn about it from their parents, not the internet, hence why I deleted it. I hope you understand 2603:8000:C33E:B968:8053:2894:B4B:618A (talk) 07:28, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

Martin Burckhardt

Hello,

I've added the references which were missing in my previous article. That's why I deleted your maintenance template and requested a review for publication. DXK34 (talk) 07:43, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

We don't delete comments, you are free however to click the re-submit button at Draft:Martin Burckhardt (architect). Theroadislong (talk) 07:46, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

There is no such a button. DXK34 (talk) 07:51, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

Because your edits removed it! I have added it back for you. Theroadislong (talk) 07:53, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

Ok, I've found it now. Thank you and sorry. DXK34 (talk) 08:00, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for your help. DXK34 (talk) 18:10, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

Request on 08:31:57, 11 May 2024 for assistance on AfC submission by TwentyTwilve

• TwentyTwilve (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Fabiana Palladino (draft) (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

But the page already exists? TwentyTwilve (talk) 08:31, 11 May 2024 (UTC) TwentyTwilve (talk) 08:31, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

Yes TwentyTwilve! Here it is Fabiana Palladino, so why are you creating a draft? Theroadislong (talk) 08:52, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

The existing article is about an album, whereas the draft seems to be about the artist (somewhat confusingly, by the same name). I only twigged that when I noticed that TwentyTwilve had recently wikilinked the artist's name in the album article. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 08:58, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

There is also another draft here Draft:Fabiana Palladino (album), very confusing! Theroadislong (talk) 09:02, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

If a person article is notable then the album needs to be moved to (album) and a person article created, which is what I drafted. TwentyTwilve (talk) 09:14, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

It all comes from me clicking on a link in Personal Life of Pino Palladino which went to his daughter’s album not the person TwentyTwilve (talk) 09:17, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

@TwentyTwilve: possibly, but not necessarily. And that still doesn't mean you should create new Draft:Fabiana Palladino (album) when an article on that subject already exists. And certainly not by copypasting the contents from that existing article. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 09:17, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

Re William Hammerton Smith

Fair comment about 'exclusive' and 'prestigious' - I shall remove the word(s) altogether Thanks for the contribution. Nigel PG Dale (talk) 09:09, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

Sound engineer's page - Oleg Chechik.

Hi! I've edited the page many times. I have added links as required by the rules from known sources. But the page keeps getting rejected. They write that supposedly I do it for money, but NO, I do it on my own initiative, I don't work with wikipedia for money! But the people who reject a page that I've been trying to create for over a year, then they write to me in private messages with offers to create a page for money! Where is justice????? VJKarinka (talk) 16:11, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Editor's Barnstar
	Thank you for tweaking my first 'new' submission and getting it approved. I now feel encouraged to go on and create some more. Hopefully learning and improving as I go... Treesme (talk) 17:57, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

Update regarding Davinder Pal Singh

Hi Theroadislong,

Thank you for reviewing the article on Davinder Pal Singh and for your feedback regarding notability. I have added a new reference that provides substantial coverage of Davinder Pal Singh and his work with the Panjab Digital Library:

"ਜਾਣੋ ਕੌਣ ਬਣਾ ਰਿਹਾ ਹੈ ਪੰਜਾਬ ਦੀ ਡਿਜ਼ੀਟਲ ਲਾਇਬ੍ਰੇਰੀ ਅਤੇ ਕੀ ਹੈ ਇਸ 'ਚ ਬੇਹੱਦ ਖਾਸ" - News18 Punjab. This article discusses in detail the significant contributions of Davinder Pal Singh in establishing and leading Asia's first and Punjab's largest digital library, highlighting his vision and the impact of his work. Link to the article

This reference should help establish the notability of Davinder Pal Singh and provide a more comprehensive view of his contributions to digital preservation and cultural heritage.

Could you please review the updated article? If there are still any issues or additional improvements needed, kindly let me know. Your guidance is much appreciated.

Thank you!

Best regards,

EditpediaPro EditpediaPro (talk) 08:56, 14 May 2024 (UTC)

Review of the article Draft:Ubuy

Hey, please revise the article, because a string of information has been corrected and a string of independent sources have been added. I have also removed promotional information and press release sources. It seems dubious on such short notice to have an analysis done on the article. Thanks! DanikS88 (talk) 17:34, 14 May 2024 (UTC)

Sorry, I really wasn't paying attention to the USA Today article, but in addition to this article I included others that are indepentent. Still I think it's notable for wikipedia being an app with over 1 million downloads. Thanks! DanikS88 (talk) 17:42, 14 May 2024 (UTC)

Having an app with 1 million downloads confers zero notability see WP:NCORP for the criteria. Theroadislong (talk) 17:45, 14 May 2024 (UTC)

I didn't mention that once it has X number of downloads it is notable. I just made a clarification. On top of all that though I have included a string of independent articles that can keep the article under the stub format. Thanks! DanikS88 (talk) 17:50, 14 May 2024 (UTC).

Reviewers tend to take a tougher line when paid editing is evident. You are free to resubmit for other opinions, I will not review again. Theroadislong (talk) 18:06, 14 May 2024 (UTC)

I'm not part of a paid editor, so I tried to combat a string of obviously promotional edits to this article. But I'm just learning (and in some cases making mistakes), but I'm always open for discussion and learning. Thanks! DanikS88 (talk) 18:13, 14 May 2024 (UTC)

Daniel Marc Mouyal

FYI, I've reported the editor to AIV. Whether it's AUTOBIO or UPE, either way its Mouyal's flagrant self-promo, and I reckon enough's enough.

Also requested for the photos to be deleted from Commons, as they're clearly in copyright. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 09:28, 16 May 2024 (UTC)

No good deed goes unpunished

I am reaching the conclusion that "We tried" 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 15:41, 16 May 2024 (UTC)

Sigh...it's awful that she has been scammed, but blighting innocent users won't help her. Theroadislong (talk) 15:48, 16 May 2024 (UTC)

I've given her firm advice on her talk page. I detest the crooks who prey on the naive, but they and the naive are always with us 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 15:54, 16 May 2024 (UTC)

I did get an apology here [6] before she was blocked. Theroadislong (talk) 16:04, 16 May 2024 (UTC)

Regarding my submission

Hello, Recently I submitted a wikipedia page for a TV that has been around for more then 1 year now. My submission was rejected by you. My references come from The Dispatch, The Star (The Toronto Star) and International Journalism Festival.

Could you please leave a more detailed feedback and let me know how I can improve my page so it gets approved?

Thanks Akbarirazia (talk) 13:33, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

Your draft Draft:Amu Television was declined not rejected which has a different meaning here. I suggest you remove the spam links to their website, we don't use any external links in the body of an article, we also have little interest in their "mission' we need to know what reliable independent sources have said about them, not merely report what they do. See [WP:NCORP]] for the criteria. Theroadislong (talk) 14:49, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

Linkedin Source

I recently was working on an article on Teatro Yerbabruja, and mistakenly added a non-reliable source. I removed it, but it still shows up when I read it. How do I get rid of it? Exuperantia (talk) 14:02, 18 May 2024 (UTC)

Nevermind, I fixed it. Thanks for the comment, I appreciate it and am glad that I improved the draft henceforth. Best wishes. Exuperantia (talk) 14:05, 18 May 2024 (UTC)