User talk:Penwhale/Archive13

Wikipedia Day Celebration and Mini-Conference in NYC Saturday Feb 23

Doing the "Open Space" thing at one of our earlier NYC Wiki-Conferences.

You are invited to celebrate Wikipedia Day and the 12th anniversary (!) of the founding of the site at Wikipedia Day NYC on Saturday February 23, 2013 at New York University; sign up for Wikipedia Day NYC here, or at bit.ly/wikidaynyu. Newcomers are very welcome! Bring your friends and colleagues!

We especially encourage folks to add your 5-minute lightning talks to our roster, and otherwise join in the "open space" experience!--Pharos (talk) 03:01, 2 January 2013 (UTC)

radiondistica.altervista.org

Thanks for trying to create an edit filter. Unfortunately, it was unsuccessful. Jc3s5h (talk) 11:59, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

Penwhale, you might want to try a test run with a switch [A-z] instead of (a|s) or [A-Za-z]. See this manual. Cheers, De728631 (talk) 21:57, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

ARBCC clarification request

Hi, thanks for your reply. Please direct me to wherever it says that only uninvolved eds may serve notice, and log the service of notice. Once I know where that is, I will seriously consider proposing refinements to the text, because the lead of ARBCC does say regular editors may do something, and I would welcome any preliminary input on that idea in addition to the link where it says only uninvolved admins can give notice and log notice. Note that we are NOT talking about imposing actual sanctions. I agree completely, whether it is written or not, that uninvolved admins should be doing that. But for the mere giving of a harmless notice, I would like to know where the consensus or ARB basis for your (probably correct) assertion originates. Thanks for your help. NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 23:31, 10 March 2013 (UTC)

• WP:AC/DS. Quote: Prior to any sanctions being imposed, the editor in question shall be given a warning with a link to the decision authorizing sanctions; and, where appropriate, should be counseled on specific steps that he or she can take to improve his or her editing in accordance with relevant policies and guidelines. Because of the latter part of that sentence, it should be construed as uninvolved admin only (being the neutral party). But then again, that's just my reading into the relevant section, though. - Penwhale | ^{dance in the air and follow his steps} 23:35, 10 March 2013 (UTC)

Wow thanks for the nearly instant reply. Since your assertive reply at the ARBCC clarification request is based on a good faith but nonetheless subjective reading of that text, please add this thread or the equivalent to your comment at the ARBCC clarification so others understand this is your good faith (but still subjective) interpretation. I'd like to see explicit text on this point, and if it does not exist, it should. NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 00:03, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

FYI Based on a side discussion at Dave Souza's page, where he opined my conclusion at the ARBCC clarification request was "very sensible", I have invited him here to explore this more. I hope that was ok, and if not (A) I apologize and (B) I would be grateful for education how best to discuss this matter. I've never dealt with ARB at this level. NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 01:00, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

No, you're fine, though I'm uncertain that this place is the best spot. XD - Penwhale | ^{dance in the air and follow his steps} 01:07, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, I've made a statement at the clarification request page. I think there's been some confusion between notifying new editors about the sanctions, and the formal warning from an uninvolved admin required in WP:AC/DS. My suggestion is that some wording be added to clarify the purpose of logging these notices, any discussion will logically take place at the clarification request page. Thanks again for your help with this, . dave souza, talk 19:33, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

link

link - yes, I did leave a message. — Ched :  ?  19:26, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

• I see now. - Penwhale | ^{dance in the air and follow his steps} 22:54, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

Clarification request

Hi Penwhale, I recently started a request for clarification regarding some procedural issues that have recently arisen at AE.[1] Since you were involved in some of the related discussion, you might like to comment. Regards, Gatoclass (talk) 04:14, 15 March 2013 (UTC)

Food

You should eat something so you're not hungry all the time! KTC (talk) 10:39, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

AC/DS comments requested

Hi, as an administrator who has recently been active at WP:AE, you may be interested in AGK's request for comments at User talk:Sandstein#Draft of discretionary sanctions update.  Sandstein  15:24, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

Big problems on the maduro page again

So the 90% of the negative content on Nicolas Maduro just got wiped out again, and in came a smiling photo over, all without anything in Talk. I went to undo it and in came an admin who undid my revert and threatened to ban me.

That about sums it up. — Preceding unsigned comment added by LifeEditorLatinAmerica (talk • contribs) 05:55, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

Baltic state solution

Howdy Penwhale. The proposal of City, USSR (now X) was rejected at the Baltics RFC-in-queston. GoodDay (talk) 05:14, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

• Provide a link to that RFC for me, if you can? - Penwhale | ^{dance in the air and follow his steps} 05:15, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

Resolute has provided a link to it, in his ANI report. GoodDay (talk) 05:21, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

Redcation of all Controvery and Negative Comments from Maduro

80% of the negative commentary has been removed from the nicolas maduro site over the last two weeks.

The NYT of Venezuela was called a "blog" and BLP cited to removed basically all the negative information. The candidate in question is basically doing a Watergate every other day, just yesterday he tried to buy a candidate for 20 million, but no English speakers will know because we have two cowboy editors who are strangle holding and redacting all the negative commentary.

Wikipedia Meetup NYC this Sunday April 14

Hi Penwhale! You're invited to our next meeting for Wikipedia Meetup NYC on Sunday April 14 -this weekend- at Symposium Greek Restaurant @ 544 W 113th St (in the back room), on the Upper West Side in the Columbia University area.

Please sign up, and add your ideas to the agenda for Sunday. Thanks!

Delivered on behalf of User:Pharos, 18:02, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

Hello, I have several engineering tools that I added to Wikipedia. It looks like they are all removed by the same person (178.21.50.154) with the same reason. I tried to explain the identification is necessary. It looks like this person is specifically targeting my links as he/she has no other action in 2013 but deleting my links. Can you please verify his actions and add back my links if accepted.

regards, Levent Ozturk. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.26.74.31 (talk) 13:11, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

Hello, I have several engineering tools that I added to Wikipedia. It looks like they are all removed by the same person (178.21.50.154) with the same reason. I tried to explain the identification is necessary. It looks like this person is specifically targeting my links as he/she has no other action in 2013 but deleting my links. Can you please verify his actions and add back my links if accepted.

regards, Levent Ozturk. wikipedia@leventozturk.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.26.74.31 (talk) 13:19, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

NYC Wiki-Picnic: Saturday June 22

	Great American Wiknic NYC at Prospect Park
	You are invited to the Great American Wiknic NYC in Brooklyn's green and lovely Prospect Park, on this Saturday June 22! We would love to see you there, so sign up and bring something fun for the potluck :) -- User:Pharos (talk)

Tea Party movement

Is there any reason why I was added to this arbitration case? I do not know who User:Hahc21, who added my name, is or what their involvement with the case is. TFD (talk) 00:38, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

• You were added by User:Hahc21 (an Arbitration Clerk) at the direction of the Arbitration Committee. - Penwhale | ^{dance in the air and follow his steps} 09:27, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

Reply

Hello, Penwhale. Thank you for your edit. About your comment, you seems to ave said that MarshalN20 was merely replying to AGK. A few key points: 1) AGK never mentioned my name. 2) AGK never mentioned Juan Manuel de Rosas or the use of Argentine sources. A mere reply does not give MarshalN20 the right to ignore the topic ban nor the interaction ban. Again. --Lecen (talk) 23:45, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

• Can I get a link to the mutual interaction ban? You didn't link to it, and I am unsure where it is located. - Penwhale | ^{dance in the air and follow his steps} 00:42, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
• Never mind, found it. It's an "informal" one, though, so I am unable to do anything wrt to that part (you should refer that issue to AGK and Salvio). - Penwhale | ^{dance in the air and follow his steps} 00:48, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

Kiefer Wolfowitz

This editor has used his talk page to further comment on his case and promulgate his views. As a banned user, he has no right to talk page access, since his only path towards reinstatement is through BASC or ArbCom. I request that you remove his talk page access. Beyond My Ken (talk) 00:09, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

Would you also remove the two comments I'm referring to from the page. I have deleted them, but another editor restored them. Beyond My Ken (talk) 00:53, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

Important request to translate article from eng-chin

Hello there, There is a very important article that is in English but not in Chinese. It's called Barefoot lawyers http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barefoot_lawyer. They are self-taught people who help protect the rights of citizens in China. This would be a very important article for chinese people to read in their native language not in one there not familiar with. Would you consider helping out to translate the article. I am also asking 8 other translators with near native english and native chinese to help out. So if you all agree you would have 8 helpers. What do you think? Pretty Please..Dounai99 (talk) 00:34, 24 August 2013 (UTC)Dounai99 (talk) 00:27, 24 August 2013 (UTC) (talk) 23:49, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

Comments

Sorry that was a mistake on my part. Didn't mean to delete your comment --Lyo (talk) 00:48, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia Takes Brooklyn! Saturday September 7

Please join Wikipedia Takes Brooklyn scavenger hunt on September 7, 2013! Everyone gather at the Brooklyn Public Library to further Wikipedia's coverage of— photos and articles related to Brooklyn, its neighborhoods and the local landmarks. --EdwardsBot (talk)

Editor Greengrounds at Catholic Church and Nazi Germany

I suspect the blocked editor Greengrounds (who promised to continue to disrupt myself and user:Smeat75 among others) is at it again, now at Catholic Church and Nazi Germany, and on IP ‎209.91.107.184. At any rate the "anonymous user" ‎209.91.107.184 has twice reverted a recent edit by me under a false pretext (claiming that I have deleted material sourced to Baranowski, when I have in fact inserted material sourced to Baranowski). Are you able to put an anonymous editor protection on that page too, as you did at Religious views of Adolf Hitler, as it is one where Greengrounds was active. Ozhistory (talk) 01:04, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

• Semi'd for a few days. - Penwhale | ^{dance in the air and follow his steps} 03:05, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. He now appears to be editing with IP 209.91.107.203 - see Assisi Network. Ozhistory (talk) 22:39, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

A temp protection at Nazi persecution of the Catholic Church in Poland might help, as he seems to be reverting a large section there, using a couple of different IPs. Ozhistory (talk) 03:07, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

You may wish to take this to ANI because the range he's using is too big for rangeblock. - Penwhale | ^{dance in the air and follow his steps} 04:34, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

WP:FALKLANDSUNITS nominated for MfD but is protected

See Wikipedia:WikiProject South America/Falkland Islands work group/Units. User:Jtrainor has listed this at WP:MFD but can't place the deletion banner on it due to your protection. Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 17:00, 12 September 2013 (UTC)

• I am about to head out to class, but you may ask any administrator to do what needs to be done on that page. If it isn't remedied by the time I'm back from class, I will add that banner. (Personally, though, I think the MfD is ill-timed and... the "keep but tag with {{failed}}" doesn't work either because that is an editorial decision and does not hold sway at XfD). - Penwhale | ^{dance in the air and follow his steps} 17:26, 12 September 2013 (UTC)

Request for consideration of a "clerk traineeship"

Dear Penwhale;

I am interested in becoming a clerk on the Arbitration Committee. Whilst I have not edited a great deal, I have experience in WP:DRN and Third Opinion, and, as I am sure you are aware, I am involved in an ongoing case at ArbCom.

Please advise me on how I can become a "trainee clerk".

--The Historian (talk) 19:56, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

• Generally, the clerks themselves evaluate whether an editor is suitable to become a clerk (with input from the arbitrators). Keep in mind, though, that the Arbitration Committee is the one that can promote from trainee to full clerkship. I'll discuss this with other clerks. - Penwhale | ^{dance in the air and follow his steps} 22:25, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

Question

If you don't mind explaining, what is the origin of you username? I find it.... I don't know, but every time I read it, it makes me pause.Two kinds of pork (talk) 05:15, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

User:N92413

Note the page created with your name. Just curious but is this some one you recognise? CambridgeBayWeather (talk) 20:48, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

• Not at all... Thanks for noticing that, by the way.- Penwhale | ^{dance in the air and follow his steps} 21:27, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

No problem. They were creating odd pages. Figured they might have been the return of someone you had a run in with before. CambridgeBayWeather (talk) 21:47, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

Arbitration clarification request closed

Hi Penwhale, the clarification request you were involved with regarding Sexology discretionary sanctions has been closed and archived. The Committee clarified that discretionary sanctions were authorised for articles dealing with transgender issues and for articles dealing with paraphilia classification. The original discussion can be viewed here. For the Arbitration Committee, Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 13:25, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

Stalker-ish edit

Is this edit from the Manning workshop kosher? I appreciate it's linking on-wiki content, but at least in spirit it feels like dredging through someone's personal life to discredit them. Chris Smowton (talk) 00:45, 27 September 2013 (UTC)

• I.... don't know. I have to think about that one. (Although I'm tempted to remove that by virtue of not being on-topic.) - Penwhale | ^{dance in the air and follow his steps} 01:01, 27 September 2013 (UTC)

Righto, thanks for your prompt response. Chris Smowton (talk) 01:18, 27 September 2013 (UTC)

Cal68 persists with this line of argument. I don't have a specific policy-based complaint, this just continues to strike me as unscrupulous. Chris Smowton (talk) 00:00, 28 September 2013 (UTC)

Claims of vandalism about an IP

[2]. Can you point me to the vandalism, IRWolfie- (talk) 09:42, 1 October 2013 (UTC)

If the issue is with sockpuppets, a range block (after WP:SPI) would seem to be an effective choice, IRWolfie- (talk) 12:27, 1 October 2013 (UTC)

The range block would be higher than /16, which iirc cannot be done. See User talk:Ozhistory for the request. - Penwhale | ^{dance in the air and follow his steps} 15:45, 1 October 2013 (UTC)

Wikimedia NYC Meetup! Saturday October 5

Please join the Wikimedia NYC Meetup on October 5, 2013! Everyone gather at Jefferson Market Library to further Wikipedia's local outreach for education, museums, libraries and planning WikiConference USA. --Pharos (talk) 21:51, 1 October 2013 (UTC)

Translation help needed

Hi, can you help me to translate the Chinese below:

...小米科技CEO雷军今日在腾讯微博诠释了公司名称由来的背后故事，他表示，小米要做移动互联网公司，并且要完成不能完成的任务。 “很多人问小米这个名字怎么来的？大家第一时间想到的是小米加步枪。其实，小米这个问题还有不少故事，首先小米拼音是mi, Mobile Internet，小米要做移动互联网公司；其次是mission impossible，小米要完成不能完成的任务。最后，“小米”这个名字亲切可爱，你周围有叫小米的人吗？” “‘佛家一粒米 大如须弥山’小米，我们希望去掉高大全，从小处着手。”雷军特意强调。

I need this translation to back up my opinion in article Xiaomi. Thank you --B3430715 (talk) 03:25, 7 October 2013 (UTC)

The CEO of Xiaomi Technology Jun Rei today explained the origin of the name of the company on QQ Blog. He stated that Xiaomi will be a mobile internet company and do what is impossible. "Many people have asked how I came up with the name Xiaomi. Many people thought it was based on millet and rifle. But there are more stories than that. Xiaomi has 'mi' in its pinyin - referring to Mission Impossible - completing what can't be done. Next, the name Xiaomi is cute - are there any one around you with the name Xiaomi?" "'One grain of rice of a Buddhist is as great as a mountain' Xiaomi - we want to work from the little things, not be perfect" as Rei emphasizes.

• It's a VERY rough translation, but that's the basic stuff. 高大全 is used to describe a "hero" during the Cultural Revolution - tall, big, and perfection. "Focus on positive people from among all, heroes from among all positive people, and central figures from all heroes" and all "central figures" must be 高大全. - Penwhale | ^{dance in the air and follow his steps} 21:40, 8 October 2013 (UTC)

• • for clarify, is the "One grain of rice of a Buddhist is as great as a mountain' Xiaomi - we want to work from the little things, not be perfect" said to explain the "xiao" part?
  • "not be perfect" or "instead aiming high"?
  • thanks --B3430715 (talk) 03:00, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

• Xiao = Little. The quote doesn't exactly state the importance of it to the name (IMO). They want to get rid of 高大全 = they aren't starting by striving to be tall, big, and perfect. - Penwhale | ^{dance in the air and follow his steps} 16:57, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

• There is maybe one thing, you left out in your translation ("mi, Mobile Internet")...But you deserved a big Thank you, by helping me understood the Buddhist concept and 高大全 concept...--B3430715 (talk) 18:49, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

Wikimedia NYC Meetup- "Greenwich Village In The 60s" Editathon! Saturday November 2

Please join Wikipedia "Greenwich Village In The 60s" Editathon on November 2, 2013! Everyone gather at Jefferson Market Library to further Wikipedia's local outreach for Greenwich Village articles on the history and the community. --Pharos (talk) 21:44, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

Alexis Reich

Since you added the template to this page, this is a courtesy notice. [3] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Two kinds of pork (talk • contribs) 23:30, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

Wikimedia NYC Meetup- "Queens Open History Edit-a-Thon" at Queens Library! Friday December 6

Please join Queens Open History Edit-a-Thon on December 6, 2013! Everyone gather at Queens Library to further Wikipedia's local outreach for borough articles on the history and the communities. Drop-ins welcome 10am-7pm!--Pharos (talk) ~~~~~