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I saw you are the one that most often responds to portal questions so I thought I would just ask you. How long does a portal need to be receiving regular updates before it can be submitted as a featured portal? Portal:United States hadn't been updated for a while and I am in the process of updating it and have gotten positive results from several of the US related projects to submit content on a regular basis so within the next month or so we should have it set and be on a regular schedule. if you have any other advice for this portal that would be greatly appreciated as well. I think for the most part the portal is solid it just needs some updated content but I am rather new to portal stuff so Im not 100% sure of the requirements. --Kumioko (talk) 15:45, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
Thanks, I added a couple pictures and a ton of other things. I also tagged all 700 pages with the new United States Portal category that was created. Not 100% sure what you mean about statistics though. --Kumioko (talk) 03:48, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
Got it thanks. I updated a bunch but I keep finding more (and probably will continue to do so for the next couple weeks. Please let me know if you have any more suggestions or feel free to make the changes yourself if you want. I'm not too proud to accept help. Cheers--Kumioko (talk) 04:04, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
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It looks like the meeting is on! You said you were interested in attending an informal meeting with Sue Gardner while she was visiting in Toronto, and the plans have been firmed up. The event will be Sunday evening at the Linux Caffe from 6-8 pm on Sunday, Feb. 6.
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A proposal to add topical links to all of the contents pages has been made. As part of that proposal, the navigation bar at the top of these contents pages would look like this.
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Thanks! That was what I was looking for. I submitted a request via the request for permissions/account creator link you sent me. That is the right I was looking for. Thanks again for your help, and sorry it took me a bit to reply. Once the school week starts, things get crazy. Best, Roseclearfield (talk) 02:43, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
He appears to be spooling up again, and I want to avoid involvement this time because I seem to be the main target of his wrath. His recent edits have involved yet another personal attack against me. Any help you could provide would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Ebikeguy (talk) 20:15, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
ANI for Blake1960
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Hi,
I have created an ANI notice related to Blake1960's recent editing behavior:
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WikiProject Good Articles will be running a GAN backlog elimination drive for the entire month of March. The goal of this drive is to bring the number of outstanding Good Article nominations down to below 50. This will help editors in restoring confidence to the GAN process as well as actively improving, polishing, and rewarding good content. If you are interested in participating in the drive, please place your name here. Awards will be given out to those who review certain numbers of GANs as well as to those who review the most. On behalf of my co-coordinator Wizardman, we hope we can see you in March. MuZemike delivered by MuZebot00:06, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
IRC invitation
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Because I have noticed you commenting at the current RfC regarding Pending Changes, I wanted to invite you to the IRC channel for pending changes. If you are not customarily logged into the IRC, use this link. This under used resource can allow real time discussion at this particularly timely venture of the trial known as Pending Changes. Even if nothing can come from debating points there, at least this invitation is delivered with the best of intentions and good faith expectations. Kind regards. My76Strat09:12, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
Orphaned non-free image File:The Hong Kong Jockey Club.png
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Hi, in September 2010 you semi-protected the Wall-Mart article, which is fine by me. However, it means that nobody but administrators can move the article. As the official company name is Wallmart since 2008, there are several requests on the talk page for a switch move, so Wallmart becomes the main article address, while Wall-Mart becomes an alias reference. Currently it's the other way around.
Perhaps you could unprotect it, do the move and then re-protect it? I'm sure the regular editors then will clean it up accordingly.
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Hi again! Thanks for that re-direct. Unfortunately, it was the wrong one, because I made a mistake, which probably confused you. The old company name and the current article name is Wal-Mart (with one "l", not Wall-Mart with two, which I wrote). The article name should be Walmart (one "l" and without a hyphen), as that's how the company writes its name since 2008.
What confused things, is that my two misspellings (Wall-Mart and Wallmart) already exist as redirects to Wal-Mart, Obviously, the Wall-Mart redirect isn't semi-protected, as you pointed out, but Wal-Mart is.
So, if you could unprotect Wal-Mart and then move the article to Walmart (and then semi-protect it again, if you want), that would be great. If you let me know when it's done, I'll sort out the old redirects and change the beginning of the article to reflect the article name.
Hm, yes, but the poll also states "It can be removed from pages where it is causing problems, and added sparingly to pages where it has clear benefits[...]. Seeing as I only added to the page for a month, I did not see my action as violating the results of the poll. That said, I'll just leave it as is. Tiptoetytalk00:47, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
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There are some old noms (two months old) there; do you think you could take a stab at closing the discussions? Cirt hasn't edited in a month. /ƒETCHCOMMS/03:29, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
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Please explain to me how exactly trying to add a bit more information from a previously used source constitutes vandalism? Obviously I didn't know how to add the reference correctly, but if you follow it you will see that it is a legit source, and not wrong.174.5.11.131 (talk) 23:05, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
Talkback
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It looks like we both agree that KoH would be a good clerk for SPI. Would you like to mentor him? I can also help as well, answering questions, etc. Cheers! TNXMan14:30, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
Help for Portal:Bulgarian Empire
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Greetings! I have seen on the talk page of WikiProject Portals that you are willing to provide assistance for Portals. I would like to help me a bit with a portal, if you have time and willingness.
I have created Portal:Bulgarian Empire long time ago and since I have no skills in making portals, I am sure it needs a lot of reworking in order to get a proper look... Can you take a look through it and improve whatever you find inappropriate or badly done and also improve the general layout and colours? Also, probably it would be better to add a "Selected biography" section, where I will move the biographies from "Selected article" and insert new ones. Regards, --Gligan (talk) 15:00, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
Thank you very much for the quick answer. My problem, however, is that I just don't know how to do the things. I know that the box at the top is misplaced but I have no idea how to fix it. You can see, for example, that in the archive of the "Selected Articles" the second one is empty but when I tried to fill it there were problems...
As for the other suggestions, I will make them up to 20 but there are simply not enough featured articles for all. And there is not a single featured picture too... Do you think that if I ask for a peer review someone will make all that? Usually the reviewer only says what has to be done but in this case I am unable to do it. Best, --Gligan (talk) 15:29, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
Just so you know that I'm still waiting. Any accusations have to be accompanied by proofs. I believe this rule is obvious and simply enough. Qingprof (talk) 02:43, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
I have a different opinion about defining my report as "premature". I believe that this particular user has already issued an invalid warning to me and committed an illegitimate action, because no proof is provided at the time of issuing that warning. It is common sense. No proof, no warning. Qingprof (talk) 03:07, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
Hi OhanaUnited, with User:Qingprof's approval, I have closed the AN/i and directed that if he have any more questions concerning the incident (or the matters therein) that he contact you here. Best, ROBERTMFROMLI | TK/CN20:01, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
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The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Aryan Cargo Express until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on good quality evidence, and our policies and guidelines.
Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article. Eduemoni↑talk↓01:26, 25 May 2011 (UTC)
SPI request filed in good faith, please redact your comments suggesting otherwise
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Please take a look at the response to your comments from me and from another user at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/NoCal100. I am a longtime Wikipedia editor and I edit under my own real-life identity, so I don't like to have unpleasant allegations about me just sit there unanswered. I am not in the habit of filing frivolous SPI as a weapon in content disputes, but I hope I would file one against a suspect user on my own side of a content argument, if a new account showed up brandishing arguments of someone recently banned. You mention my content disagreement with Red Stone Arsenal at Start-up Nation, so let me call your attention to my praise of Gilabrand and GabrielF there who were on the opposite side of the dispute from me. Far from trying to run them off Wikipedia, I expressed gratitude and admiration for their hard work and forbearance. [1][2][3][4]betsythedevine (talk) 12:19, 25 May 2011 (UTC)
Your response on my talk page explains why you considered the SPI "meritless." I have no complaint against your calling it "meritless," although the blocked account I thought was the same as Red Stone Arsenal is Rym Torch for whom behavioral not checkuser evidence was definitive.[5] My complaint is instead the over-the-top allegation about my motivation you publicly offered to account for my not knowing enough to search the SPI archive for previous cases involving Red Stone Arsenal: "Since Red Stone Arsenal and you have opposing POV at Start-up Nation, I really believe that you use the sockpuppetry case to try and assassinate his character." I feel that leaving such a comment on my talk page does more to "assasinate" my character than the SPI that you object to and I would like you to redact that over-the-top PA from my talk page. I have an opposing POV with lots of people at lots of articles; if I went around filing fake SPIs as a way to blacken people's characters, I would be a lot more familiar with SPI methods than I am. betsythedevine (talk) 19:27, 25 May 2011 (UTC)
I don't see where OU accused you of attempted character assassination, which would be a pretty serious charge. As you are in a content dispute with the other editor, and filing a sockpuppet report on the editor you are in a dispute with, it could possibly be viewed as an attempt to intimidate another editor into conceding in the dispute, or abandoning it. On the other hand, if you sought advice beforehand and was encouraged by HelloAnnyong as suggested by RolandR, then you can't be faulted for proposing the investigation, and I can't agree that your request was frivolous, I think your reasoning was plausible when you described the behavior that led to your report. I would take your word that you were unaware of the prior investigations, SPI can be overwhelming to someone who isn't used to it (it was to me when I first used it). One last thing to note, is that it is your choice to disclose your real life identity, and when you do so you have the added inconvenience of having your on-wiki behavior tied to your real life identity. That means that at times you will have unpleasant allegations against you, it's inevitable. That's also why most editors (myself included) choose to edit the project anonymously. It doesn't provide you any added protection. -- Atama頭22:29, 25 May 2011 (UTC)
I did miss it, I saw your other post just a bit ago on ANI. Thanks for the info in both places. I actually saw the ANI before coming here yesterday, and posted here to avoid the drama at ANI, which of course is a futile gesture because there is drama anyway. :) -- Atama頭17:59, 26 May 2011 (UTC)
I closed the ANI thread, but please take heed of what people said there. It was not correct to accuse another editor of trying to abuse SPI to "assassinate the character" of another editor. That can be construed as an attack, and ought not to be repeated by an SPI clerk. Fences&Windows22:32, 26 May 2011 (UTC)
@Ohana: Hi. I'm not sure whether you'd noticed, but I re-opened the AN/I thread. I apologize for not informing you of that earlier; it was careless not to, so sorry for that... Also, I'd like to just reassure you that despite some of the harsh remarks that have been made there, that's just so much hot air. People get their knickers in a twist over inflammatory words, but no one is interested in finding fault with you in any negative or morally judging sense. Betsy made a mistake in not knowing how to search for a pre-existing case. In your understandable frustration you made a mistake about her motives and growled when it wasn't called for. This is no big deal in itself; it only becomes one if those remarks stick around for opponents to cite for the next five years, whenever she files an SPI that someone doesn't like. If you don't think that will occur, btw, then you can feel thankful that you're not interested in editing articles that touch on Mideast politics. I can tell you with near 100% certainty that it will, if the comments aren't at least struck through. That's the reason I felt I had to re-open the thread: It's just not right that she should have to live with that albatross around her neck when she only did what we all should do, try to help keep the socks from jamming up the gears here.
The conflict is pretty ironic, really: You and betsy are actually very much committed to the same goal. You only fell afoul of one another, as I see it, because the sharp spike in throwaway accounts that we've seen in the I/P area recently has put everyone's nerves rather on edge, and caused a predictable collision. Specifically, I mean a collision between the actions of editors in trying to deal with that influx and the need for checkusers to keep the volume manageable and to respond to the corresponding spike in reports that return a "not related" outcome. I wonder if you're aware, though, that some days in the Israel/Palestine topic area, it honestly looks like one out every four or five editors one encounters are socks, and that around half of those look almost precisely like Red Stone Arsenal in their contribution history? It's just extremely frustrating, and we're frankly at a loss to know how to address the problem.
Sorry to post a novel here; delete it at will, of course; it's your talk page. But I really hope you'll accept the possibility that this drama really was just the unfortunate result of mutual frustration and misunderstanding, and will be able to de-escalate this. I hope it won't seem silly for me to say so, but if you're not married, I can assure you in all sober earnest that it would be a great chance to hone a very necessary skill for that blessed state. ;-) Please do look in at AN/I, if you can do so without getting knots in your middle. Best regards, – OhioStandard (talk)14:45, 27 May 2011 (UTC)
I'd just point out I am interested in finding fault with you in a negative or morally judging sense; OhioStandard should not, perhaps, try to speak for the community. You used grossly inappropriate language I wouldn't expect of any editor, let alone somebody in a position of trust, and drove someone off the project as a result. Hell yes this is a big deal. Ironholds (talk) 15:13, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
Point taken, Ironholds. Heimstern, a fellow admin, also thinks additonal action is necessary. He's made a couple of suggestions on his talk page that might interest you. – OhioStandard (talk)07:48, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
A comment (left also at AN/I, which is getting rather messy):
Thank you for asking for a third opinion. I admire the fact that you are trying to protect new users from being slapped with sockpuppeting allegations -- it is an unfriendly process to subject someone to, and no way to be introduced to Wikipedia. And I also think that we sometimes are too eager to challenge and block new users.
Please reconsider the few harsh words you said to betsy. She merits assumption of good faith, as do all respected contributors. If we are rude to one another, and contributing becomes painful, we will lose our thoughtful and experienced and devoted users - even more worrying than losing new users.
Betsy noted that many of your comments were helpful, and apologized for not preparing the SPI request better. I think you owe her an apology in return for the assumptions you made about her, and the language used. – SJ +22:52, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
Barnstar
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The above comment was changed by Mbz1 in this edit made at 01:49, 31 May 2011, by the addition of this custom barnstar graphic, by a small change in wording, and by a change in the section title. Because this section and comment have been linked to or mentioned on several other pages, I've added an anchor to the former section title of "Gongratulations!" (sic). The former text read, "Hi OhanaUnited, I'd like to congratulate you on being the truth-telling boy. You are right, the Emperor is naked, but will you be able to hold your ground :-) Good luck with this! Regards." and included the same wikilink to to the children's fable of the self-deluding and publicly ridiculous king. – OhioStandard (talk)08:38, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
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Hi OhanaUnited, I'd like to thank you for the post you made on AN/I on my behalf. It was really thoughtful of you. My bans were lifted 2 months ago,and as you noticed I have never posted to AN/I anyway. It was another user who copied my comment there. I explained to user:RolandR where he got it wrong, but he removed my message. I believed he was not able to understand me because of my English, but I see he was not able to understand you either,to understand such a simple thing that I have never posted to AN/I although I had all the rights to post there. Oh, well... Sorry for the troubles my post created for you. Cheers.--Mbz1 (talk) 17:45, 26 May 2011 (UTC)
And now I linked user:RolandR to this post at your talk page, but once again the user removed my message without reverting false accusations he made against me on AN/I. At this point I believe the user made a false accusations in purpose to have me blocked. Listen, I am sorry to bother you again, but I am not sure what should I do, and just for the record I'd like to have it here please.--Mbz1 (talk) 18:12, 26 May 2011 (UTC)
Ocean acidification misunderstandings with chemistry, carbon, and the usage of organic and inorganic ...
How do I get an editor who understands the difference between organic (carbon in molecule) and inorganic in Chemistry, and "organic" and inorganic"'s other current means in the article Ocean acidification. Two editors are editing the article inaccurately to say "inorganiccarbon cycle", which is impossible as a carbon cycle would have carbon in some molecules. Is there a list of editors to call-in who understand this? If you don't know, do you know who might?
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Hi, Ohana. I wanted to let you know that the AN/I thread is likely to roll to archives or get hatted very soon. I realize you've been staying away for a reason; this can't have been pleasant. But please consider that besides the approximately 15 regular editors who've wished you'd do so, you've also had half a dozen admins, at least, who've suggested you'd do well to strike through your comments, admit your mistake, or both. One of those, User:Sj, aka Samuel Klein, is also an elected member of the the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees, one of the most highly-trusted persons on the project. Besides his AN/I posts, he even took the extra step of posting here, to your talk, to ask if you'd be willing to apologize.
It's hard to publicly step up and admit it when you've been wrong, as I know all too well from my own experience. Much easier to just keep your head down and hope the problem will go away. But I'd respectfully suggest that you would gain greater respect from the community by addressing the issue directly, as you've been asked to do, at the soon-to-be-closed AN/I thread, before you lose your chance. And although Fences & Windows has now added an exculpatory passage to the SPI request thread that Betsy initiated, it would also be seen as a commendable response to strike-through your unfortunate comments, as well. Everyone understands what happened; ignoring that until the thread rolls to archives isn't going to change that. I'd be grateful if you'd consider the request, and act on it asap, before you lose the opportunity. Respectfully, – OhioStandard (talk)00:09, 3 June 2011 (UTC)
[Nicola Roxon]
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I put up an entry on this webpage and a user is deleting it for no reason. She isn't discussing the reasons why on the discussion board but putting up useless comments about how she "likes socks". Well, the category is for the individual's religion. She is an atheist. The categories are there to guide the encyclopaedia to provide information to the public. This allows people to reference categories. Particularly relevant in politics. Among a number of things is to allow people to do searches. I found this entry because of listening to the radio and there is a religion in politics debate. I wanted to know who is an atheist in the debate and who is religious. Also Euthanasia is a big issue and as health minister it is good to know what religion she is. It only adds to the encyclopaedia not detracting from it. Look at the entries for politics around the world. Religion is a big thing in Australian politics. Incogfrig (talk) 13:49, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
Directly defying the results of this discussion, User:OSX merged the articles here.
Note that OSX was warned that he should not merge the articles in this discussion.
I cannot see how to revert OSX's merger. Could you help me with this? Also, I think that it would be appropriate for an admin to chastise OSX and warn him against similar actions in the future. How should I proceed?
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I was curious why you removed the sun in Sachs Harbour? It's listed in the source. Also I'm not sure that it's a good idea to remove the link to the calculation information as it better shows the dates the information was collected. Cheers. CambridgeBayWeather (talk) 21:09, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
I missed that they were extreme daily. The one from 1961-1990 look more normal for somewhere at that latitude with almost two months of no sun. CambridgeBayWeather (talk) 04:08, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
The sun sets about the middle of November and rises in the last week of January so there would be little available sun. I assumed that they used a Campbell–Stokes recorder like the one we had. During the week or so following and preceding sunrise/sunset the sun is so low in the sky that even if conditions are perfect it rarely makes a burn. A few clouds will ensure that there is no burn, as will a heavy fall of Diamond dust. However, the major problem is frost on the balls. They can be cleaned off but will frost up very quickly and the sun has to burn the frost off before it can burn the card. So for December it would be safe to put 0. For the others I usually just put n/a as it isn't really missing but it wouldn't matter. CambridgeBayWeather (talk) 05:39, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
That's odd, there is only 24 years worth of data. I can't recall when the station opened there but it certainly was before 1976. I do know that at some point the weather station was moved from one location to the airport and that may be the reason there is no prior data. I've emailed a friend who worked there several years ago and will know when the station moved. CambridgeBayWeather (talk) 12:37, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
Originally the sun was part of the 1971-2000 data that's why it got put into the articles. Environment Canada removed it at some point. Now if they would just fix the major and very obvious errors. CambridgeBayWeather (talk) 16:03, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
It appears that Kugluktuk weather opened in 1927 or so. The original station was on the town side of the hill and they moved in the 1970s around the hill to the new airport and decided that the distance was too far for continuous weather records. Not sure why they couldn't have the two stations listed differently. CambridgeBayWeather (talk) 16:06, 24 June 2011 (UTC)
Blocks are preventative, not punitive
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One of the most misleading statements on WP. Blocks are, by definition, punitive. Action A will result in a block (i.e. violation of 3RR). They are punitive. However, their goal is to prevent future problems. In this vein, I proposed a 1-minute block. It permanently shows delta that his actions are noted and are not acceptable. It also permanently logs this community disapproval of his actions without being unduly harsh. By showing that level of commitment, future blocks would be easier to initiate and, since he knows this, he is less likely to lapse into recidivism. — BQZip01 —talk22:29, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
Portal:Renewable energy
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