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TODAY IS Home Talk My Articles My Images Contributions Awards Saturday, 4 May 2024 2018 Dilek article Hi there, I see that you reverted my edit on Dilek Akagün Yılmaz, where I removed the reference to her gender. Please read the WP essay here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Writing_about_women#Male_is_not_the_default which explicitly states "Avoid labelling a woman as a female author or female politician". Yilmaz is a politician, not a female politician, just as Obama is a politician, not a male politician. MurielMary (talk) 07:49, 4 February 2018 (UTC) List-friendly search results enhancer Hi. I've noticed you work a lot on lists in your area of interest. I specialize in lists. I'm developing a user script called SearchSuite.js. It's a prototype (aka "alpha version"), but it is functional. You might find it useful. Sincerely,     — The Transhumanist    09:35, 9 March 2018 (UTC) Precious anniversary A year ago ... "This user loves problem solving." ... you were recipient no. 1638 of Precious, a prize of QAI! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:26, 19 April 2018 (UTC) ... three years now --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:13, 19 April 2020 (UTC) Hello, Nedim Ardoğa. You have new messages at Talk:Hafız Selman İzbeli. You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template. First Turkish Woman Sculptor Your article Sabiha Bengütaş says she is the first woman sculptor however Nermin Farukî is also described as Turkeys first woman sculptor in many sources. Both are born in 1904. In addition to this, Mari Gerekmezyan (1913) is described as "one of Turkeys first female sculptors" however the wiki page claims she is THE first female sculptor. I believe that this might be wrong as the Turkish page says she is "one of" not "the first'. Also the page was nominated and accepted for a DYK with this wrong information. @CeeGee is highly familiar with DYN, maybe he has an opinion?--GlobalSecretary (talk) 12:53, 27 April 2018 (UTC) Sabiha Bengütaş article appaered in the Women in Red contest. Frankly I'm not an expert on the biographies of these ladies . I solely depend on the sources. According to Women's Museum İstanbul Sabiha Bengütaş was the first student of sculpture. She and Nermin Faruki are of the same age. But Mari Gerekmezyan is much younger. Thus I think Mari's first-sculptor claim is not justified. See if you can find further sources. Cheers. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 13:23, 27 April 2018 (UTC) A majority of Turkish sources state that Sabiha Bengütaş is the first Turkish female sculptor, many English sources state that she is also the first Turkish female sculptor, one English language source says that Mari Gerekmezyan is the first Turkish sculptor. Several Turkish sources state that Nermin Farukî is the first Turkish sculptor or that she is one of the first. No Turkish sources state that Mari is the first Turkish sculptor, Turkish language sources do state that she is ONE OF the first Turkish sculptors and Istanbul Kadin Muzesi does say she is the first Armenian female sculptor.--GlobalSecretary (talk) 14:37, 27 April 2018 (UTC) Nomination for deletion of Template:Scientists whose names are used as non SI units Template:Scientists whose names are used as non SI units has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. --woodensuperman 14:58, 30 April 2018 (UTC) Nomination for deletion of Template:Scientists whose names are used as SI units Template:Scientists whose names are used as SI units has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. --woodensuperman 14:58, 30 April 2018 (UTC) DYK for Mor Yakup Church On 12 August 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Mor Yakup Church, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the Church of Saint Jacob in Nisibis in southeastern Turkey was originally the baptistery of a Syriac Orthodox cathedral which no longer exists? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Mor Yakup Church. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Mor Yakup Church), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 12 August 2018 (UTC) Ottoman Turkish script Hi Nedim I've noticed your edits over the years on Ottoman history and thought if you could assist me with a small thing. On the article Ahmet Niyazi Bey would it be possible to write his name in Ottoman Turkish Arabic script? If its possible and you know how i would greatly appreciate it. Best.Resnjari (talk) 14:19, 16 November 2018 (UTC) Sorry for not assisting. I don't know Arabaic script for in Turkey Latin scrit is used for the last 90 years instead of the traditional scrip . Cheers Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 16:57, 16 November 2018 (UTC) Do you know of any editor who might have knowledge of Ottoman Arabic script? Best.Resnjari (talk) 04:42, 17 November 2018 (UTC) Well, in some of the Ottoman-related articles I've created, other editors added Ottoman Turkish names. User:Nima Farid (probably from Persia) is one of them. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 06:37, 17 November 2018 (UTC) Cool. Thanks ! Best.Resnjari (talk) 06:59, 17 November 2018 (UTC) you put a comment on the Seyhan Dam page about importance. I added the article, because my dad was the chief engineer. I noticed this question about Turkish version of Arabic script. My mother's Turkish friend who was also born in the 1920s could not read the old Turkish script. She told me that when the bought old Ottoman war medals to wear as jewelry, that the antique dealer, who was an adult before the Republic, could read it. Of course, Ataturk banned the old Turkish script and had the new Turkish alphabet created, which is in my opinion the best in the world because each letter makes only one sound and no sounds are 2 letter sounds. I wonder if the old Turkish script is still illegal? Saltysailor (talk) 00:01, 2 June 2020 (UTC) ArbCom 2018 election voter message Hello, Nedim Ardoğa. Voting in the 2018 Arbitration Committee elections is now open until 23.59 on Sunday, 3 December. All users who registered an account before Sunday, 28 October 2018, made at least 150 mainspace edits before Thursday, 1 November 2018 and are not currently blocked are eligible to vote. Users with alternate accounts may only vote once. The Arbitration Committee is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the Wikipedia arbitration process. It has the authority to impose binding solutions to disputes between editors, primarily for serious conduct disputes the community has been unable to resolve. This includes the authority to impose site bans, topic bans, editing restrictions, and other measures needed to maintain our editing environment. The arbitration policy describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail. If you wish to participate in the 2018 election, please review the candidates and submit your choices on the voting page. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 18:42, 19 November 2018 (UTC) Why do you keep adding Oguzname to the Selcukname article? They are not the same thing, they aren't even written in the same language. — Preceding unsigned comment added by مهر ماه سلطان (talk • contribs) 01:22, 24 January 2019 (UTC) The name of the book is Tevârîh-i Âl-i Selçûk. But it is popularly known as Selçukname amd Oğuzname. Both Selçukname and Oğuzname are the general names of the books about Oğuz Turks and Seljuks. You have changed the the text . That's why you reject the name Oğuzname. But I rewrote the lede. I think this is clear now. (Of course there are other Selçuknames and Oğuznames) Cheers. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 15:17, 24 January 2019 (UTC) Selçukname does not refer to only one book. Perhaps a second article could be set up for further details about Tevârîh-i Âl-i Selçûk? This article also has to cover Ibn Bibi and the others.مهر ماه سلطان (talk) 14:27, 25 January 2019 (UTC) I started Oğuzname. Maybe you may want to expand it. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 08:09, 29 January 2019 (UTC) Taqa The original name of the village is Taqa but the turkified name is Oyuklu. You can see here also the picture: [1]—Kaiduo (talk) 03:31, 12 February 2019 (UTC) Your DYK nom Uzuncaburç (Diokaesareia) Hi Nedim Ardoğa! I see with great pleasure that you have tried to nominate a new article for DYK. However, there are a number of issues, which would prevent your effort to be appear in the DYK talk page and to be reviewed or to be approved. If you don't mind I would be happy to help you in this case. Please let me know if you agree with my proposal. I find it great that you are interested in bringing articles about Turkey to the WP Main Page. CeeGee 08:30, 24 February 2019 (UTC) After about 10 years of compulsory and (very unjust) separation, I finally gained my right to access to tr-Wiki. So I concentrate on tr-Wiki and I don't spend much time here. I was in hurry during the nomination and I might skip something. I of course would be very glad to receive help from a Wiki pall. Thanks a lot. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 08:48, 24 February 2019 (UTC) Hi Ndim Ardoğa! I see that you have reverted my input about how to get your article nominated for DYK although you had expressed your willing for help. It seems that its existence in your talk page made you unhappy. Pitty that I wasted my valuable time for you. CeeGee 10:17, 25 February 2019 (UTC) Please try to be a bit more polite. I deleted it because the page was divided and it was almost unreadable. Anyway thanks for your effort. By the way, although I started more than 2500 articles I only applied once for a DYK. (The others were nominated by you) It was long ago and now I am not much active in en-Wiki The reason of the present nomination was rather trivial.I wanted to compare two articles in two differnt Wikis. No problem if the nomination is rejected. Cheers. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 17:01, 25 February 2019 (UTC) Nothing is inpolite in my above reply. Besides it was not dvided at all. CeeGee 19:54, 25 February 2019 (UTC) Merger discussion for Path loss An article that you have been involved in editing—Path loss—has been proposed for merging with another article. If you are interested, please participate in the merger discussion. Thank you. Pierre cb (talk) 14:11, 3 March 2019 (UTC) Royal Netherlands Harbour Works - Koninklijke Nederlandsche Maatschappij voor Havenwerken N.V. Hello Nedim. I noticed a question of yours regarding the Royal Netherlands Harbour Works. The company was globally active, mainly in China in the early 1920-1930's and was independent for about 50 years. It was founded 1 July 1912 in Amsterdam. The company bought most of the equipment of the Nederlansch-Fransche Maatschappij voor Havenwerken from Amsterdam which ceased activities in 1910. A large company that worked on the Suez Canal and was part of the East Asiatic Dredging Company (EADC). 1960's: Bought by N.V. tot aanneming van werken v/h H.J. Nederhorst in Gouda. (founder was Hendrik Jan Nederhorst) 1964 name changed: Verenigde Bedrijven Nederhorst N.V. 1979 bought by the Hollandsche Beton Maatschappij 2002 part of the Koninklijke BAM Groep Hope this helps. Arno-nl (talk) 18:12, 18 March 2019 (UTC) Thank you. Koninklijke Nederlandsche maatschappij voor havenwerken N.V. took part in the construction of Mersin Harbor in 1950s, the harbor of my home city. Several years ago, while preparing a report on Mersin Harbor I tried in vain to get info about the company. Cheers.Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 19:55, 18 March 2019 (UTC) Precious anniversary Precious Two years! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:30, 19 April 2019 (UTC) Television transmitter Hello Nedim. You asked at the RMTR board for this article to be moved to Analog television transmitter. However, a perusal of the content finds several mentions of digital transmission. In my opinion such a move ought to be discussed further. Perhaps some material can be rearranged within this set of articles. If you still think it should be moved, you can follow the full WP:RM process which will lead to a decision after seven days. Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 23:58, 20 April 2019 (UTC) Disambiguation link notification for May 19 Hi. Thank you for your recent edits. An automated process has detected that when you recently edited Orhan Mersinli, you added a link pointing to the disambiguation page Ottoman (check to confirm | fix with Dab solver). Such links are usually incorrect, since a disambiguation page is merely a list of unrelated topics with similar titles. (Read the FAQ • Join us at the DPL WikiProject.) It's OK to remove this message. Also, to stop receiving these messages, follow these opt-out instructions. Thanks, DPL bot (talk) 10:31, 19 May 2019 (UTC) Proto-Turkic language Dear Nedim, probably you can help in moderating aggressive deletion by some 188.159.243.232 by attracting some WP experts on the validity of the Family Tree model for the amalgamated languages. There is no doubt that Turkic languages are amalgamated due to the 1) incest laws that allowed marriages only to non-kindred tribes, 2) numerous populations adopting Turkic as a second language, 3) attestation of M. Kashgari that of 24 Oguz tribes, almost half have their own languages. 4) Due to their nomadic mobility, Turkic people had to co-exist and absorb numerous populations they encountered over millenniums. Encyclopedic-wise, probably the most important factor is that there is no proof that a single seed Turkic language had ever existed in nature. It is only an obsolete hypothesis. English is the best example: there was no Pra-English. English amalgamated from numerous Germanic languages, plus Celtic/Brit, plus Latin, plus French/Norman, etc. Since the term "Proto-Turkic" exists, it deserves an article, but it should not be a propaganda article to obfuscate the reality. Regards, Barefact (talk) 08:35, 30 August 2019 (UTC) I agree with you. Anyway, I see you have reverted the deletion.Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 08:58, 3 September 2019 (UTC) ArbCom 2019 election voter message Hello! Voting in the 2019 Arbitration Committee elections is now open until 23:59 on Monday, 2 December 2019. All eligible users are allowed to vote. Users with alternate accounts may only vote once. The Arbitration Committee is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the Wikipedia arbitration process. It has the authority to impose binding solutions to disputes between editors, primarily for serious conduct disputes the community has been unable to resolve. 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Glabb (talk) 18:07, 4 February 2020 (UTC) Wikipedia:WikiProject Europe/The 10,000 Challenge Hi, I merged the entries for Turkey into this. I know you weren't too keen on doing it but feel free to continue putting up Turkey entries on that European page. I think the Turkey challenge stopped at 1250 about 10 months ago now?? I will run a European destubathon sometime which should benefit Turkey, we don't have the numbers for a Turkey contest unfortunately!. Hope you're well!♦ Dr. Blofeld 15:59, 25 February 2020 (UTC) Disambiguation link notification for February 28 An automated process has detected that when you recently edited Treaty of Constantinople (1590), you added a link pointing to the disambiguation page Georgia (check to confirm | fix with Dab solver). (Opt-out instructions.) --DPL bot (talk) 10:02, 28 February 2020 (UTC) Name change In this diff, the page is generated automatically by bot every 2 weeks so your change will be overwritten. I assume your userid changed recently? The bot accounts for this, about every 3 or 6 months (I forget) it rebuilds the database from scratch because it takes a long time there is a long delay between rebuilds. In the intervening time it will display the old name. -- GreenC 16:14, 7 March 2020 (UTC) The name is Nedim Ardoğa. In case the keyboard is unable to type ğ (g with breve) Nedim Ardoga is also acceptable. Cheers Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 07:29, 9 March 2020 (UTC) Proposed deletion of File:RF Band (B,G).jpg The file File:RF Band (B,G).jpg has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern: unused, low-res, no obvious use While all constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, pages may be deleted for any of several reasons. You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{proposed deletion/dated files}} notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the file's talk page. Please consider addressing the issues raised. 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(Opt-out instructions.) --DPL bot (talk) 07:31, 28 April 2020 (UTC) 缽羅/钵罗 In Middle Chinese 缽羅/钵罗 was likely pronounced *puɑt̚-lɑ (Zhengzhang). Even so, I think it unlikely that 缽羅/钵罗 transcribed Turkic *bolun (? bulan "Eurasian elk"). Because (1) bulan is never used as a title, (2) in northern Middle Chinese dialects, the most likely nasal ending to be lost or changed is not -n, but -m (for example, Middle Chinese *sɑm > Cantonese sam1 but Mandarin san1) or later -ng (& such sound-changes would not happen until the Song period, long after Āshǐnà Xìlì's death). More likely it transcribed "[ish]bara", as in the titles of two other Göktürk qaghans: in Ashina Tong's title Ishbara Tolis Qaghan 沙钵罗 咥利失 可汗 & Ashina Baobu's title 乙毗 沙钵罗 叶护 可汗 Irbis Ishbara Yabgu Qaghan). Should we move the page Irbis Bolun Cabgu to Irbis Ishbara Si Yabgu? Erminwin (talk) 13:26, 28 April 2020 (UTC) Women's Museum İzmir Merhabalar, rica etsem boş bir vaktinizde Türkçeden çevirip burada oluşturabilir misiniz? Sağlıklı günler dilerim. Kingbjelica (talk) 16:16, 28 April 2020 (UTC) Dikkatimi çektiğiniz için teşekkürler. Gerçi çeviri yapmadım . Ama iki on-line kaynaktan yararlanıp, yeniden kısaca yazdım. (Women's Museum (İzmir)) Türkçe metinde yer alan bazı şeyleri kaynakta görmediğimden atlamak zorunda kaldım. Ama geliştirebiliriz. İyi çalışmalar. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 14:29, 29 April 2020 (UTC) Çok teşekkür ediyorum, emeğinize sağlık. Türkçe maddeyi tez kaynağından (şuradan taranabilir) derleyip yazdım, kaynakta yer almayan bir içerik yok. Derlediğim aralığı (pp.) belirtmiştim sayfada zaten. Tekrar teşekkürler.--Kingbjelica (talk) 16:48, 30 April 2020 (UTC) yardım selamlar, Turkey sayfasında inatla ermeni soykırımı fotoğrafı konunuluyor. Talkpage'de destek verir misin. kazekagetr 12:12, 5 May 2020 (UTC) Draft:Kamil Tolon Merhabalar bu sayfaya bir eliniz değer mi? sevgiler--Yiğitcank (talk) 19:00, 22 May 2020 (UTC) Merhaba Merhaba kardesim, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Dilek_%C3%96calan, buraya bir goz atarmisin? Redman19 (talk) 07:37, 2 June 2020 (UTC) Cok cabaladim ama maalesef pek ciddiye alinmadim, bu Konli17 bana troll hesap gibi geliyor, her hangi iyi bir admin biliyorsan bunu sana zahmet o kisiye ilet, saygilarimla Redman19 (talk) 07:39, 2 June 2020 (UTC) Category:Emet has been nominated for merging Category:Emet has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 15:10, 10 July 2020 (UTC) Can you help with coal-fired power stations in Turkey? Merhaba Nedim Ardoğa, CeeGee has told me that you are active on both Turkish and English Wikipedias and might be able to help with this. I have done a lot of work on List of active coal-fired power stations in Turkey and hope that it will become a featured list shortly. I would like the information I have gathered to be available on Turkish Wikipedia both on the list article and on articles about individual power stations such as tr:Afşin-Elbistan C Termik Santral but I am very reluctant to spend any time trying to put it on there myself, because in the past many of my edits to other articles have been undone. So I don't find it enjoyable to edit Turkish Wikipedia and (as I am not a native speaker of Turkish) do not want to go through arbitration procedures on there as that would be very time consuming and boring for me. However I could put the info on Wikidata. As far as I know Wikidata is the only place where the public can update structured data on power stations, such as installed capacity, amount generated in a year, capacity factor etc. But although Template:Infobox power station can pick up info from Wikidata as far as I can tell tr:Şablon:Elektrik santrali bilgi kutusu cannot. I have never changed an infobox myself but apparently it is not too difficult technically and there is help available. Is there any way you could amend tr:Şablon:Elektrik santrali bilgi kutusu so that it can pick up Wikidata or persuade someone to make that change? Saygılar Chidgk1 (talk) 06:24, 13 July 2020 (UTC) Copying within Wikipedia requires attribution Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. It appears that you copied or moved text from Meg Ryan into Meg Ryan filmography. While you are welcome to re-use Wikipedia's content, here or elsewhere, Wikipedia's licensing does require that you provide attribution to the original contributor(s). 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I hope you received it. Could you let me know if you have any thoughts about it, please? Regards. Isik (talk) 09:20, 18 August 2020 (UTC) Excuse me if I've missed something. Can you please repeat your message for I haven't seen your privious message Thanks. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 10:26, 18 August 2020 (UTC) Actually it was rather a longer text in general and it was an email. Please see your inbox. Regards.Isik (talk) 10:56, 18 August 2020 (UTC) Disambiguation link notification for September 12 An automated process has detected that when you recently edited Harbord Commission, you added a link pointing to the disambiguation page Trebizond. (Opt-out instructions.) --DPL bot (talk) 07:10, 12 September 2020 (UTC) FixedNedim Ardoğa (talk) 10:41, 13 September 2020 (UTC) Your draft article, Draft:Altınordu, Ordu Hello, Nedim Ardoğa. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Altınordu". 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I can't really say much about this article and it was released just recently the second time into the Wikipedia main space with significant flaws which I will copy edit out for now and wait for help. I would be really grateful for any assistance. I've seen you have created the article about the Shakulu Rebellion, so I thought maybe you could help. Have a good day and all the best.Paradise Chronicle (talk) 16:43, 30 November 2020 (UTC) I presume you're familiar with Turkish.Islam Ansiklopedisi may be helpful. Otherwise I may translate a part of it. Cheers Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 10:42, 1 December 2020 (UTC) I understand some Turkish, but not as good as to understand in depth the article in the Islam Ansiklopadisi about Shakulu Baba Tekeli. I translated the text with google translate, and it doesn't seem to cover the Shakulu sons/Pinyasi Principality. Pinyasi Principality is another name for the Shakulu sons as per creator of the article.Paradise Chronicle (talk) 18:41, 1 December 2020 (UTC) Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Members of the Turkish Senate A tag has been placed on Category:Members of the Turkish Senate requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the category has been empty for seven days or more and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Liz Read! Talk! 15:15, 14 December 2020 (UTC) Çelebi I removed The name was Mustafa and Çelebi is an honorific title meaning "gentleman". (see pre-1934 Turkish naming conventions) this sentences because it doesn't have a direct relation with the article. I doubt someone thinks "Çelebi" is a family name. We can use this {In this Ottoman Turkish style name, the given name is Mustafa, the title is Çelebi (title)} in the lead. Beshogur (talk) 11:43, 23 December 2020 (UTC) This is English WP. Most of the readers have no Turkish background. They may think Çeledi is a family name. I think a note on the naming convention is a good idea. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 15:24, 23 December 2020 (UTC) @Nedim Ardoğa: My friend, above it literally says: In this Ottoman Turkish style name, the given name is Mustafa, the title is Çelebi, and there is no family name. it's appropriate to remove it, because that text in the lead is unrelated. Beshogur (talk) 11:35, 26 December 2020 (UTC) Kitab-i Diyarbakriyya Do you have any information regarding this historical text? --Kansas Bear (talk) 23:23, 31 December 2020 (UTC)