February 2006Edit

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test for meEdit



I've moved the article to CWKR, per your request and based on various websites (eg - [1] [2]). However, Environment Canada seems to list its own ID for radar sites (see this). Should this be of concern? Mindmatrix 17:24, 14 June 2006 (UTC)


I saw this popup in my watchlist and actually read the article. Cna you look at this (2nd last paragraph) and make sure I fixed it correctly. They took ours away and we no longer have the manuals for me to check. Thanks. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 09:00, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. I didn't know it was you as the anon. CHeers. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 12:22, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

Lightning detectorEdit

Thanks for adding the diagrams, Pierre — they look great. I reorganized the text in that section and bit, and would be grateful if you could read it over to make sure I haven't introduced any errors. David 17:54, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Your comments on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject MeteorologyEdit

I'm a little confused as to what you are asking. Right now we have a lot of articles about instrumentation and stuff like that (mostly listed in subcategories of Category:Meteorology). Eventually all articles relating to meteorology will be listed here, but this will probably take awhile. -Runningonbrains 06:13, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Weather RadarEdit


In the radar article you have changed the caption to "Storm front on Doppler radar screen (NOAA)". This is not a Doppler radar display (velocity) but a reflectivity (intensity of precipitation). It is an american media error to subtitute Doppler to Weather radar. Weather radar can be Doppler but a Doppler radar is not necessarily a weather radar. Sorry but I have to correct. Pierre cb 13:27, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

I agree with you on your point that a weather radar can be Doppler, but not necessarily. I was not trying to imply that this was a Doppler image, otherwise I would have said "Storm front on radar's Doppler screen". Rather, I was pointing out the fact that the radar screen belongs to the Doppler radar. Actually, I just did a direct translation of the image file name from German. To prove to you that the radar is indeed a Doppler radar, I'll show you the source of the image, whose caption states it is the "Norman Doppler radar reflectivity display showing squall line." In my haste, I removed the word reflectivity, thinking that the average reader would not understand, but that has obviously caused confusion. Can we change the caption to read:
"NOAA's Norman Doppler radar reflectivity (precipitation intensity) display showing squall line"
or something to that effect? —Gintar77 23:43, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

User pageEdit

No problem. They seem to have stopped for now. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 11:57, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Radar FAREdit

Radar has been nominated for a featured article review. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to featured quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, articles are moved onto the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article from featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Reviewers' concerns are here. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 23:03, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Hi, Pierre; we routinely notify the top editors, and you're on that list.[3] Regards, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 14:10, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of tornadocaneEdit

I saw you edited the article recently, so I'm leaving a comment here on your talk page. A similar article, landphoon, was deleted from wikipedia despite having seven unique references. Tornadocane has one. Neither term (including landcane) exists in the glossary of meteorology, so it can be delisted as not being encyclopedaic. Also, the meteorology community doesn't even use the tornadocane term, though landphoon and landcane come up from time to time. I hadn't heard of the term before going to Roger Edwards' page on the 1999 event quite recently, where he appeared to coin it. Thegreatdr (talk) 16:44, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

Even if I merged material from the landphoon article, the tornadocane article would be deleted for the same reason. The only country that mentions them at all is Australia, and even they don't even have a definition for the term. Right now, landphoon/landcane are only mentioned colloquially, with no actual definition other than "you know one when you see one." If there's no established definition in any primary source, including the Bureau of Meteorology (the aussie NWS), then it can't be listed in the wiktionary, let alone wikipedia. Thegreatdr (talk) 20:07, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

Doppler radar vs. Doppler weather radarEdit

While I suppose it is technically more correct to say Doppler weather radar, I have very rarely seen this phrasing use. You say that "Doppler radar" is a misnomer. It's not a misnomer, and especially not an "American" misnomer; it is accurate, it's just a shortening. It is the term used by the National Weather Service, The Weather Channel, The Australian Bureau of Meteorology, Environment Canada, and almost every other agency that I could find. In most contexts, it is clear that when an article uses the phrase Doppler radar they in fact mean weather radar with Doppler capabilities. I am going to be going through and clarifying wording in a bunch of the articles you changed, I hope you don't mind, but clearly, the phrase "Doppler radar" wins out over "Doppler weather radar" or, even worse, "Doppler effect weather radar". Let me know if you have any problems with this. -RunningOnBrains 21:16, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

I was not aware of that. Regardless, I will be leaving some links as plain weather radar, but the ones that are specifically doppler-based I will be changing to Doppler radar (written [[Pulse-Doppler radar|Doppler]] [[weather radar|radar]]). I think it's important to have a link to both topics, as well as using the familiar wording term which seems to be universally used in non-technical settings. -RunningOnBrains 21:39, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
I suppose. As I said, I wasn't aware of the difference, and so it seems you are mostly right. I'll try to avoid using the term "Doppler" at all if not necessary, and will only change the phrase to include both links where the doppler part is important, such as with discussion on Tornado vortex signatures. -RunningOnBrains 22:00, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Category renamingEdit

Hi, I've proposed that most of the subcategories you created under Category:Meteorological institutions and stations be renamed. You can discuss the nomination at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2008 March 4 #Meteorological categories. Graham87 10:15, 4 March 2008 (UTC)


I figured out the mistake concerning Doppler in Canada soon after I made the change...which was 1985 not 1993. And you're right about BWERs...any radar should be able to capture them. My problem (and that of the GA reviewer) was that references were not provided for that line, and I could not find one on the internet. If your masters is such a reference, or you know of an appropriate text reference, readd the date wording, providing your master's or the appropriate paper/book as the reference. Thegreatdr (talk) 18:08, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

North American ice storm of 1998 GA Sweeps Review: On HoldEdit

As part of the WikiProject Good Articles, we're doing sweeps to go over all of the current GAs and see if they still meet the GA criteria and I'm specifically going over all of the "Meteorology and atmospheric sciences" articles. I have reviewed North American ice storm of 1998 and believe the article currently meets the majority of the criteria and should remain listed as a Good article. In reviewing the article, I have found there are some issues concerning sourcing that may need to be addressed, and I'll leave the article on hold for seven days for them to be fixed. I have left this message on your talk page since you have significantly edited the article (based on using this article history tool). Please consider helping address the several points that I listed on the talk page of the article, which shouldn't take too long to fix with the assistance of multiple editors. I have also left messages on the talk pages for other editors and related WikiProject to spread the workload around some. If you have any questions, let me know on my talk page and I'll get back to you as soon as I can. --Nehrams2020 (talk) 02:06, 17 March 2008 (UTC)


I'd like to leave it for a few days and see how things develop. If you want to start a discussion about protection, you can try Talk:Tornado or WP:RFPP. Cheers, --Ryan Delaney talk 15:18, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

Radar composantes.png/svgEdit

Hi Pierre. I've made the change to radar components as requested. Enjoy! Vanessaezekowitz (talk) 22:41, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

Interlanguage section linksEdit

I have replied at Wikipedia:Help desk#Side lobes. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:09, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Convective storm detectionEdit

Thanks for your work on convective storm detection, particularly radar and as it pertains to hail/updrafts. I put up a rough start of the article online and haven't gotten around to expanding and refining it (especially the exclusionary focus on tornadoes). Do you plan to add anything about lightning detection (and prediction)? Evolauxia (talk) 01:27, 6 October 2008 (UTC)



In the article snowmobile you took out the genericized trademark "Ski Doo", the first mass production of this kind, but you left snowmachine and snowsled whitout asking for justifications. This is equivalent to say that Kleenex is not often used for paper tissue but that it can be called locally some obscur name. You have to be logical : either you leave the most common and obvious OR you take all the local names out.

Pierre cb (talk) 19:32, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Hi Pierre, I am currently trying to figure out additions to Jewish Journalists and need to head to a pee wee hockey game momentarily so let me check this out in a few. My biggest gripe would be with what RS say. Do you have a source that says something like what you want in the article ie, Snowmobile are commonly referred to as Ski Doos or whatever the verbage was? I ended up at that article due to the Palin spotlight on them, so I am no expert. Again, I will look into the kleenex comparison and advise. Thank you! --Tom 19:37, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
ps, quick look at Facial tissue has kleenex mentioned OUT of the lead under popluar usage, which I would have no problem if the same was done with snowmobile. I usually like to edit lead sections as was the case here. Anyways, need to run out and watch hockey, My son plays for...the Canadians :) Cheers! --Tom 19:45, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Bombardier CapitalEdit

Hello, Pierre cb. You have new messages at Moonriddengirl's talk page.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.
Hi. :) Given your interest, I thought I'd let you know that on investigation I found that the timeline also contained extensive material pasted from the various articles to which it sourced. Given the lack of a clean version, what I've done is expand the section on Bombardier Capital at Bombardier and create a redirect to that. Not all the material has been included (I didn't see the need to track the number of times the company laid off employees), but I hope that I've preserved the core of information. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 15:02, 22 February 2009 (UTC)


See snowmobile talk page for further references. By the way, the 1944 date in the Merriam Webster entry simply indicates their first known usage of the word at all, not "when the definition is from." If you check MW's entry for "snowmobile," you'll see they indicate the word was coined in 1923, also previous to the modern machine. Some jerk on the Internet (talk) 14:02, 19 March 2009 (UTC)



I remember the discussion about Ski Doo we had and I want to assure you that it is not me who removed it. I see that you have added your point of view about the local names of snowmobile about the heated exchange with this Srobak guy. I might have been a bit fast in removing the "sled" but it was put by IP without refrenced and it serves no purpose to add at infinitum details like that. This Srobak threatens me right off the bat and then deny it. Do you know where I can exposed my situation ? Pierre cb (talk) 04:31, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

Hi Pierre cb, no problem about the Ski Doo, I do believe that things were amlicable back then, but to be honest, I try not to let my past interactions sway my present opinion or actions either way. I don't know the full history here, but I did see that Srobak was edit warring on your talk page which is not proper or helpful. He then mention that I had been warned about my edits on talk pages, which wasn't fully accurate, becasue that had more to do with main space talk pages and not user talk pages, but that is neither here nor there.(just reverted your talk page again while I post this and "invited" the user to visit my page per his "threat") To answer your question, there are multiple places/boards/actions to bring up these type of disputes. First, always try to use the article talk page, which seems to be the case. 2nd, try to seek out others(uninvolved/neutral) opinions by request on their talk page or you can visit the request for comment board. If you feel that you need to have an admin step in over a user's actions, ie, threats, edit warring, salking, harrasment, distruption, the WP:ANI board is watched like a hawk. The only problem, is that you are usually told that the matter has not risen to the level of intervention and are told to try another dispute resolution method. Anyways, hope this helps and good luck. I usally hate having to go down these roads because they are a pain in the butt and usually don't do much unless the user is really out of control, and if that is the case, others usually beat me to the jump. Anyways, cheers! :) --Tom (talk) 12:53, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
Thanks. I posted a comment on the request for comment board to have someone cool Srobak down. I think I will let the matter die gradually unless he continues to threaten my user page. Pierre cb (talk) 13:20, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
Sounds like a good idea and no problem. I will check that page out as well. I also posted to his talk page per the edit warring on your talk page. I hate getting into school yard spit balling, but what can I say, I am a youngest child :) --Tom (talk) 13:29, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

Re: Tornado vandalismEdit

A sad situation indeed. I've always been opposed to permanent protection of any kind (including Flagged Revisions) but I am leaning towards re-semi-protecting the article. Interesting note: last year, it was the 624th-most-viewed article on Wikipedia, which may explain the high level of IP vandalism. -RunningOnBrains(talk page) 18:33, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Ice StormEdit

I didn't invent Southern Ontario's boundaries, it was there long before we were born. The ice storm affected a LOT more than Eastern Ontario. It was just more severe in E.Ontario. Please refrain from correcting the geography of a province which you obviously aren't educated on. Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by PhilthyBear (talkcontribs) 02:36, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Joseph PriestleyEdit

Awadewit has some serious family concerns limiting her time here, so I will reply. There is no (zero) requirement that an article have an infobox and the Joseph Priestley article passed WP:FAC without one. The result of the RfC to right align the lead image was no clear consensus. In that case there is no mandate to change the existing left alignment. Please the the most recent talk page archive for further discussions of this, thanks, Ruhrfisch ><>°° 18:15, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Severe weather chart in French severe weather articleEdit

Is there an English version of this graphic? I see this as the most important piece of the French article to add to the English one, mainly due to my lack of understanding of French. Thegreatdr (talk) 00:31, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, that's the graphic. The severe weather article can be as large or restrictive as one wants to make it. Honestly, the expansion of severe weather to non-thunderstorm related types will ultimately need references in the English article to state that drought/cold/heat are types of severe weather. The English article may end up becoming more restrictive once it goes through GAN or FAC. If it doesn't, I could see someone creating an article such as Severe weather forecasting, which would better mirror the scope and content of the French article. Its scope would not merely be a shorter version of the English severe weather article, so it could be worth creating. Thegreatdr (talk) 09:21, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

Question about weather radarEdit

Thanks for all the work you've put into the excellent Weather Radar article. I consulted it just now, wondering how sites like Intellicast distinguish between rain, snow, and wintry mix in their radar images. My guess having read the WP article is that it's based on the calculation of the downward velocity of the precipitation. Is that right? If so, would it be possible to include a brief mention of that in the article? Thanks again. Jbening (talk) 20:13, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

Re: QuestionEdit

Hi Pierre,

I'm rescuing old edits from the Nostalgia Wikipedia, a copy of the Wikipedia database from 20 December 2001. I needed to move the radar page because the import tool only allows me to import either all the edits or just the latest edit to a page. Unfortunately, the latest edit to the Radar page on the Nostalgia Wikipedia was made by a person whose username contained an underline, and that edit already existed in the English Wikipedia history. Such edits are duplicated when they are imported and become impossible to separate; see principle #3 of User:Graham87/Import and the section about overlapping edits. Graham87 03:54, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

Yes, one copy under the name "Larry_Sanger" and the other under the name "Larry Sanger". Graham87 04:10, 20 May 2010 (UTC)


Severe weather article reformattingEdit

One of the editors called me back for ideas regarding this article. Since I've been away from the article for a while, I got fresh perspective. I think we went about things in a way that was too complicated last year. This morning, I simplified the format. I'd be interested in your opinion as to whether this reorganization improved the article or not. Thegreatdr (talk) 19:22, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

That's excellent feedback. The excessive rain/flooding section was bound to be lacking since the article on the topic is also lacking. I'll see what I can do and place the comment on the Severe Weather talk page. Thegreatdr (talk) 23:29, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

Code for tornado proofing buildingsEdit

I did insert something about that which I found into the radius of maximum wind article. I would think there are rules about how to tornado proof structure, as most National Weather Service Offices in tornado or hurricane-prone areas have an interior safe room which was built independently (and prior to) the rest of the building which surrounds it. The way buildings are built in the Bahamas are the best method of hurricane-proofing a structure (it was a method used in Florida into the 1920's and then lost as contractors poured into the state to build cheap housing during housing booms which has occurred since then). As for whether it is mandatory code (or law) in certain states, I have no idea. Thegreatdr (talk) 22:07, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

Hazel imageEdit

Paul created both a winter storm book and a Northeast hurricane climatology back in the 1980s/1990s while he was at HPC. This was done manually, prior to our introduction to nMap, so yes, the images look clean and stylized for a black and white printing format. I have an old copy at work. He never published it. I'm wondering how CHC got access to it in the first place. =) Thegreatdr (talk) 17:11, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

Pulse-Doppler radarEdit

Hello Pierre cb. It would be nice if you would like to collaborate. I was unaware that we are supposed to communicate about articles using each others personal page until you pointed this out to me. Thank you. It was a pleasant surprise to see someone else provide the correct equation for I. The criticism you left for me identifies no specific defect in the article that you would like me to correct - you mention the article is confusing, you mention something about in-line references that I did not understand, you site nothing specific that needs to be changed, and you left comments about the article on my personal page instead of in the discussion for the article. If you can describe the kinds of things you do not like, then I will correct those things every few months when I become available. If that is unacceptable, then I can put the article back the way I found it. The original article regarding Pulse-Doppler was incorrect, and I revised it so that readers could understand a little bit about how these kinds of radar/sonar systems work. Pulse-Doppler is about 10 times more complex than conventional systems, and the best I can do is to just skim the surface of the topic because convolution radar/sonar systems are very difficult to understand and nearly impossible to explain without providing the actual code and specifications (not helpful in an encyclopedia). It would be nice if you could help. You seem to have a great deal of experience writing for wikipedia. I hope this finds you well, and I am pleased to make your acquaintance. Best regards, GregNanoatzin (talk) 07:21, 29 June 2011 (UTC)


Pierre CB, Sorry for the presumption. To explain, it tends to get people to leave you (and your page) alone. I think it makes it look more like you are at home in Wikipedia-land, which you are. Feel free to remove it. It was a suggestion, more than anything else. I've noted you've done a lot of good work on weather-related matters. Thanks, because it will certainly enchance the encyclopedia. Happy editing and bon chance!. 7&6=thirteen () 12:28, 30 October 2011 (UTC)

re: HeleneEdit

Yea, I'm sorry. I reverted at first because I thought I had the proper term, but then after checking your link, I realize I was in error. Thanks for fixing it! :) --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 01:14, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

Guilty of that same association. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 01:38, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

David Atlas (Meteorology pioneer)Edit

Hello Pierre,

The source of the Jewish Virtual Library is the Encyclopaedia Judaica, which contains biographies of renowned Jews (among them is David Atlas). Engines On (talk) 23:52, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

fr article:1999 tornadoEdit

I don't know if this is really correct under Wikipedia's policies, but because I only have a basic level of French-speaking abilities, and I don't like having to switch back and forth with NWS information, I thought I would say this here instead, seeing as how you at least appear to be able to speak English to some degree. On the French Wikipedia, I made this edit for a valid reason. Oklahoma City area is not too vague because so many areas had significant impacts. Also, the page that I referenced in my edit summary is not titled Moore. The page (source) for the supercell itself and all tornadoes it produced is named ELGIN - CHICKASHA - BRIDGE CREEK - MOORE - CHOCTAW STORM, although that does not properly relate because that is only the path of the storm itself, not the track of the tornado I am referring to. That tornado impacted far more than just Moore; that is just a result of media bias that chose to ignore much of the incredible damage that occurred in other areas. Also, I would definitely call the words of national agencies more important than claims the media makes. You are incorrect in claiming that the media in the United States has always referred to it as Moore tornado, even if that has often occurred; there are definitely some media sources that have referred to it otherwise, although media references still should not be important here. The forecast office itself has referred to it as Oklahoma City area tornado and Bridge Creek - Moore - Oklahoma City tornado. If you want me to give you more sources to verify this, then please ask. Also, Bridge Creek to southwestern Oklahoma City to Moore is only the area where F5 damage was rated as such. If I properly recall, the tornado caused approximately one billion dollars in 1999 USD, with 450 million dollars of this damage being caused in Oklahoma County, which does not contain any part of Moore. I repeat, Oklahoma City area is not vague at all, but rather, is more inclusive and better. As stated by the National Weather Service here, "Totals from this tornado include 36 direct fatalities (12 in Bridge Creek, 1 in Newcastle, 9 in S/SE Oklahoma City, 5 in Moore, 6 in Del City, and 3 in Midwest City), 5 indirect fatalities during or shortly after the tornado, 583 direct injuries, numerous indirect injuries (too many to count), 1800 homes destroyed, and 2500 homes damaged." The majority of the fatalities from this tornado occurred in Bridge Creek, followed by Oklahoma City, and of 36 fatalities, only five of them were in Moore, another point of significance. Also stated by that source is the tornado track - "2 SSW Amber - far N Newcastle - SW Oklahoma City - N Moore-S Del City-W Midwest City". Over five cities were judged to have received F4+ damage, as well as Amber (F4) and Bridge Creek (F5), which wouldn't really be cities. Based on all of this, I would judge that the section's name should be more inclusive. Finally, on the name of the tornado which many say is Bridge Creek-Moore, that claim was only made on the basis that the SPC's F5 tornado list said so. That was only referring to the area where F5 damage was observed, not the full track. In having such a narrow-ranged title, Wikipedia may as well say that the rest of the track doesn't matter, even the parts where the tornado was judged to still be violent. The only other ways I could reword the title while keeping it inclusive of the affected areas would be 1999 Amber-Midwest City tornado, 1999 Amber-Some City Inbetween-Midwest City tornado, or Oklahoma City metro tornado. The reason I am saying so much about this is I am tired of media bias towards Moore every time a tornado occurs within its city limits. I don't want to see Wikipedia promoting this view, especially when it is within my capability to remove such bias. It seems to me that with some tornado articles, the name Wikipedia gives is not inclusive enough...and it often appears that the only reason is that the editor wants the title to be short so that it is easier to type. This issue doesn't just appear on that page of the French Wikipedia, but also occurs on the English Wikipedia and likely other Wikipedias on a multitude of pages. I just think that articles and sections of articles should have more inclusive titles. I'm sorry that I made this so long, I just wanted to give many of my reasons at once so that I can make my purpose clearer and avoid missing many points. Also, I'm sorry if I am breaking some sort of policy by posting about an issue that has occurred in one language of Wikipedia in a different language of Wikipedia. Dustin talk 00:37, 7 March 2014 (UTC)

SafeDrive entry on the Radar pageEdit

Hello Pierre cb:

You reverted my good faith addition of SafeDrive to the Radar page as "spam". I can see why you did that, but please know I have no connection to or investment in that company or product. Rather, my goal was to demonstrate a modern-day application of the use of radar. Is there a more appropriate place to discuss that topic and provide examples?

Cheers, Froid (talk) 06:43, 19 March 2014 (UTC)


Right now the only image is within File:Stevenson screen interior.JPG but it's not very clear. I'm at work so later when it gets quiet I'll get one of the spares and get some pictures. CambridgeBayWeather (talk) 19:55, 30 March 2014 (UTC)

Just noticed that someone cropped the above to come up with File:Dewcell.png but I'm sure I can get something better than that. CambridgeBayWeather (talk) 20:28, 30 March 2014 (UTC)
No problem. I'm just uploading six images of the dewcell and associated bits. They will be one more of the unit we use to wash it in. That's at a different site and I'll get it on Tuesday. I'm doing this at work so uploading can be slow and may take a while. CambridgeBayWeather (talk) 23:35, 30 March 2014 (UTC)
Added a picture and a link to commons. Also moved the page to Dewcel which looks like the correct spelling. CambridgeBayWeather (talk) 00:26, 31 March 2014 (UTC)
When I looked at the article yesterday I saw that it was named dewcell but used dewcel throughout. I pulled out our paper copy of MANOBS, which is also online here, and they use dewcel. I've moved it back because that was where it started and added references for all three spellings, dew cell seems like an alternate. Environment Canada seem to use dewcel in both English and French, here, and don't get any hits for "dewcell". By the way the PWGSC link shows this page as their source, the WMO. I also fixed the Commons pages. CambridgeBayWeather (talk) 16:01, 31 March 2014 (UTC)
No problem. I should have checked a bit more yesterday. EC has a habit of making slight changes to things the WMO comes out with. CambridgeBayWeather (talk) 16:16, 31 March 2014 (UTC)
Uploaded pictures of the washer. CambridgeBayWeather (talk) 04:30, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

Wall cloudEdit

Dear colleague, I do not understand why these photographs could not be used. Pictured is a wall cloud, which is confirmed by the official organization for research thunderstorms. What is your education for verifying whether wall when it comes to cloud or not? Or perhaps you have racist tendencies to the Europeans that want to restrict? Best Regards! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Meteoastroplanes (talkcontribs) 12:49, 22 May 2014 (UTC)


Dear sir,

On behalf of the Department of Geoinformatics, Palacký university in Olomouc ( I would like to contact you about the copyright of your possession. Our department will be publishing Czech translation of Wiley’s publication „GIS & Science“ and would like to use pictures owned by you and licenced for the original English publication. Whereas it will be published only in 300 copies and distributed among students of our department for free, we would like to ask you for your approval of this use. To satisfy the Czech law we need a pdf document with official statement with your signature included or official confirmation of email including a description of the image. Because the publication is going to be ready soon (we want it to be published at the end of June), we need your response as soon as possible. The figure we’re talking about is

Please answer on mail: Thanks.

Kind regards, Antonin Benc Department of Geoinformatics Faculty of Science | Palacky University in Olomouc 17. listopadu 50 | Olomouc, 771 46 | Czech Republic — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 09:20, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

Anticyclone vs. high-pressure systemEdit

I oppose the merge since one is defined by wind and the other by pressure. However, any merger could be complicated if that is what is favored, as high-pressure system is a GA while anticyclone is C class. If merger is favored, someone is going to have to be careful with this. I would merge referenced content from anticyclone into high-pressure area to maintain the GA status and then rename high-pressure area as anticyclone. The C class article shouldn't be the kernel for the merged article, should that be decided, because it is the lesser article. Thegreatdr (talk) 20:34, 21 September 2014 (UTC)

Since Thegreatdr has already commented here, I thought I might point out that Cyclone and Low-pressure area are different articles, so shouldn't we be consistent? Dustin (talk) 20:37, 21 September 2014 (UTC)
I've commented in both places. :) It would be better to use the talk page of those pages for discussion. I only commented here since he proposed it, and I've been the main contributor to both articles. Thegreatdr (talk) 20:52, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

Re: 1776 Pointe-à-Pitre hurricaneEdit

Heh, sorry about that edit summary. Sometimes I get bored just saying "redirecting". In essence, the article was rather short with no hope for expansion, so I merged it into the season article. If there was more info, the article could have stayed, but the storm was over two centuries ago. I had brought up a merge discussion, and no one voiced to the contrary. Also, though it is unofficial, I talked to people on the IRC channel, and there was a general agreement that it could be merged. We could restart a discussion on it if you want. I had originally created the article, and it was kinda just sitting there, so I boldly merged it. Does that make sense? ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 16:27, 2 October 2014 (UTC)

A gotcha. Yea, there just wasn't enough info there for an article. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 01:51, 3 October 2014 (UTC)


Unfortunately not. And searching only gave the other one on Commons. Sorry. CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Sunasuttuq 02:04, 29 March 2015 (UTC)

AIV commentEdit

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Sandbox: Millimeter cloud radar draftEdit

Hi, thanks for your interest in the article we (a group of 4 students) are preparing about millimeter cloud radar. I'll let you know when we make it public (it'll be in the next few weeks).

Pilargumaclaramunt (talk) 13:20, 19 June 2015 (UTC)

UPDATE: we finally updated the article Millimeter cloud radar we had in my Sandbox. Pilargumaclaramunt (talk) 07:18, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
@Pilargumaclaramunt: Thanks. Pierre cb (talk) 10:44, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

Transfer CandidateEdit

Hello Pierre, You did a nice job transferring those two photos of mine to Commons. Here is one that gets an enormous amount of hits, and should probably be transferred as well, if you're in the mood: File:Anatomy of a Sunset-2.jpg Thanks, Pocketthis (talk) 17:59, 7 July 2015 (UTC)

@Pocketthis: Done. You can easily make transfers like that with Pierre cb (talk) 18:26, 7 July 2015 (UTC)
  • Thanks for the transfer and the advice my friend. However, I have had little luck with commons, and have promised myself never to upload there again. But, since you volunteered the last time, I thought if any photo belongs on commons, this one does, and who better to transfer it than my friend Pierre. Thanks - Pocketthis (talk) 19:08, 7 July 2015 (UTC)

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Dopplar radar and bird migrationEdit

I don't know if blanking the page solves the problem. If you believe that the page should be deleted, ask for the deletion.Xx236 (talk) 06:56, 10 November 2015 (UTC)

@Xx236: and @Sam Sailor: This page is not useful anymore since it is a misspelled version of an article that I merge into Weather radar as a section. I have blanked unused page before on Commons and it was automatically removed by a BOT. If you think that asking for a deletion is better, I will. Pierre cb (talk) 13:00, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
Pierre, it's a plausible misspelling just as we have Dopplar redirecting to Doppler. Redirects are cheap and it's not really worth the time taking it to RFD. Cordialement, Sam Sailor Talk! 13:11, 10 November 2015 (UTC) P.S. I fixed the double redirect.
@Xx236: and @Sam Sailor: OK. Pierre cb (talk) 13:13, 10 November 2015 (UTC)

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How do we fix the spelling on an upload?Edit

I spelled Desert like Dessert in this photo: File:Dessert Lava.jpg

  • Is there a tag I can put in the description to get an admin to fix the spelling? Thanks, - Pocketthis (talk) 15:41, 27 April 2016 (UTC)
@Pocketthis: You just have to use the "Rename" at the top. This will ask for the proper name you want to use and the reason for the change. Then an administrator will do the renaming. Pierre cb (talk) 22:15, 27 April 2016 (UTC)
  • Took me a while until I discovered the "more" button, but then it was a snap. Thanks Pocketthis (talk) 22:56, 27 April 2016 (UTC)


Thanks for your answer, If you can answer my other question there, I will be really happy.At Last ... (talk) 10:10, 17 November 2016 (UTC) Again thank u so much, I think reading these scientific article are the best way to promote someone's English ability, and some technical term are confusing me(Beginner in English), and some help is helpful! or at least, some care and explanation must be considered when peoples are writing technical content in Wikipedia, I think Wikipedia is not for English language person and is world wide to share information across all the word. And using specified language are not for educated person, but that's really good for someone are young and not yet leaned the word-wide language which interconnect all human. Again thanks for your answer.At Last ... (talk) 11:00, 18 November 2016 (UTC)


Hey Pierre. Thanks for pointing out my lack of citation in my inclusion of mentioning MESO-SAILS in Terminal Doppler Weather Radar. Fixed it now! — Preceding unsigned comment added by GlueManGoop (talkcontribs) 14:33, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

TDWR mapEdit

I notice that at File:Map TDWR.svg, you list Norman. That radar is located at Will Rogers World Airport in Oklahoma City (not Norman), so the file needs to be changed. Thank you. Master of Time (talk) 17:31, 17 February 2017 (UTC)

@Master of Time: Thanks. There is two references for that images and one is naming Norman while the other is naming Norman. Could you provide an official reference to confirm your information before I make a change? ... Its OK, I found one ( Pierre cb (talk) 17:39, 17 February 2017 (UTC)

ARMOR Radar editEdit

Hey Pierre! I publicly thanked you for your additions to ARMOR Doppler Weather Radar, but that is anecdotal. I live in Huntsville and regularly use ARMOR for mesoscale obs in the Tennessee Valley - Thank you for adding that template to the article! I feel dumb that I didn't think about it. Bryan C. W. (talk) 18:53, 2 May 2017 (UTC)

Brian DalyEdit

Hi Pierre! Thanks for your very thorough article. As for the equations, they would be of general interest to a non meteorologist. However, some of the formulas may need to be highlighted with units to be used, especially distance (SM, NM, km, or m?) and angles (degrees or radians?). This has been a stumbling block for many a meteorology (or other) student.

Thank you sir!

Brian Daly Mobile AL Praying for Houston my home city.

@Bd64kcmo: Thanks for the comment. When you talk about the units, are you referring to the ARMOR article or another? Pierre cb (talk) 03:34, 7 September 2017 (UTC)

your commentsEdit

I guess your English is not very good, as removing links to everyday words is *not* "vandalism." Bubble help that pops up every six words in regards to concepts such as "rain", "snow", "fog" and other vocabulary that an average five year old would understand, is ANNOYING, not helpful.

It's not "vandalism" to raise the wikipedia experience to the junior high school level.

But hey, if you want your writing to appeal to five year olds, have at it. This particularly poor article is not worth fighting over. She's all yours, my friend. 2606:DF00:3:0:216:3CFF:FE6C:2113 (talk) 11:58, 2 June 2018 (UTC)

@2606:DF00:3:0:216:3CFF:FE6C:2113: My English is good enough and your intervention is vandalism as you eliminated links to articles that have much more informations than you think. Snow, rain and other precipitations are much more complex processes than you think, the links are there for the curious readers which does not seems to be your case. Secondly your change of words shows that you have no knowledge of what is a radar. For example, radar does not detect moisture (water vapor) but precipitations (particules with a diameter adapted to detection by micro-waves), knowledge you would had gained if you had read the article. Before making changes to articles, learn your subject! Pierre cb (talk) 12:52, 2 June 2018 (UTC)

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Gustave HermiteEdit

Interesting article. I see that your ref to l'Aerophile points to Google books; actually it would be possible to give a link to tha actual article since all issues of the Aerohile are available online. See [4]TheLongTone (talk) 16:31, 30 October 2018 (UTC)

@TheLongTone: Thanks a lot for the link! I am changing right away. Pierre cb (talk) 22:52, 30 October 2018 (UTC)

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@Diannaa: I rewritten the content in my own words (, I hope this time it is correct for you. Pierre cb (talk) 23:42, 22 February 2019 (UTC)
It's better. Thanks for taking the time to do that. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 00:10, 23 February 2019 (UTC)

User pageEdit

Just letting you know, IP was attempting to vandalize your user page but was disallowed by the Edit filter log. JudeccaXIII (talk) 02:26, 8 August 2019 (UTC) @JudeccaXIII: Thanks. Pierre cb (talk) 03:51, 8 August 2019 (UTC)


Bonjour Pierre. J'ai recu votre message de mon draft the Roger Lhermitte. Oui, en effet, je suis un des fils. Je prepare la page quand j'ai un peu de temps par ci par la. Je pense etre pret dans un mois (j'ai des tas de references a lire). Quand je seras finit, j'aimerais le traduir en francais. Je pourrai vous contacter quand c'est pret? Pardonne mon ecriture. Ca fait un moment que je n'ai pas eu l'opportunite a ecrire en francais. Vous etes le bienvenu a contribuer si vous etes interresse aussi bien sur.

J'etait a Montreal pendant 6 ans a McGill (un hasard complet). Quelle belle ville.

Jrmlhermitte (talk) 13:49, 1 November 2019 (UTC)

@Jrmlhermitte: Bonjour. Votre brouillon m'a incité à travailler sur un article de mon côté en m'inspirant du votre. Quand vous serez prêt, j'y fusionnerai le vôtre et publierai en français. Pierre cb (talk) 15:13, 1 November 2019 (UTC)
@Pierre cb: Si vous pourrez faire ceci ca sera super, merci! :-) Je vous contactera quand je serais finit. N'hesitez pas a commencer si vous voulez.

Jrmlhermitte (talk) 16:35, 1 November 2019 (UTC)

@Jrmlhermitte: Bonjour, si vous avez des détails sur son éducation avant son doctorat, ça serait important à ajouter. En effet, il y a un gros trou d'information entre sa naissance et son travail sur les radars (1920 et 1954). Ça permettrait de savoir pourquoi, entre autres, il fut forcé par les Allemands d'aller à Berlin pour un travail spécialisé et ce qu'il a fait après. Pierre cb (talk) 13:29, 2 November 2019 (UTC)
@Jrmlhermitte: J'ai complété l'article en français dans mon espace brouillon en partie avec le vôtre et aussi avec d'autres références : fr:Utilisateur:Pierre cb/Brouillon. Je vais créée l'article d'ici deux semaines si vous n'avez pas d'objection et on coordonnera avec le vôtre en anglais quand vous éditerez le vôtre. Pierre cb (talk) 23:47, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
@Pierre cb: Merci Pierre. Desole, j'etais un peu occupe ces jours ci. Le brouillon est tres bien ecrit :-). Aussi, je n'ai jamais recu votre premier message par email, etrange. Je peux repondre maintenant. Je n'ai pas encore trouve de l'information sur mon pere pendant cette epoque (1920-1954). J'essaye encore de trouver. Si je trouve plus d'informations j'en rajoutera. Tout information ajoute a wikipedia doit venir d'une reference correcte? Si je trouve une personne qui peut me donner des renseignement, est-ce que c'est possible de documenter ce qu'ils disent sur wikipedia? Merci!
@Jrmlhermitte: Vous pouvez citer des informations sans références mais il est possible que quelqu'un demandera une référence et toute référence doit être accessible par internet ou au moins dans un ouvrage cité dans un issn, oclc, etc... En tout cas, si quelqu'un peut trouver ces informations ce sera vous! Pierre cb (talk) 04:11, 19 November 2019 (UTC)
@Jrmlhermitte: Bonjour, j'ai créé l'article fr:Roger Lhermitte. Laissez-moi savoir quand vous ferez de même en anglais pour qu'on puisse les relier par Interwiki. Pierre cb (talk) 21:59, 26 November 2019 (UTC)
@Pierre cb: Merci Pierre! Desole, la vie est un peu occupee pour moi. Je pense finir dans moins d'un mois. Je te contactera quand je seras pret. Merci encore, c'est une belle page :) Jrmlhermitte (talk) 14:57, 28 November 2019 (UTC)

Je voulais juste vous signaler que j'ai soumis la page pour revue. Je pense rajouter plus d'information dans le futur mais je pense qu'elle est prete. Merci pour tous l'aide! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jrmlhermitte (talkcontribs) 03:38, 8 December 2019 (UTC)

@Jrmlhermitte: Très bien. Pierre cb (talk) 04:49, 8 December 2019 (UTC)