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June 2021 edit
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August 2021 edit
Hello, I'm CodeTalker. I noticed that you added or changed content in an article, Kanawut Traipipattanapong, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so. You can have a look at referencing for beginners. If you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. CodeTalker (talk) 02:10, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you add unsourced material to Wikipedia, as you did at Kanawut Traipipattanapong. Notfrompedro (talk) 11:57, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you add unsourced material to Wikipedia, as you did at Kanawut Traipipattanapong. CodeTalker (talk) 17:03, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
{{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}. Materialscientist (talk) 14:24, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
Please do not add or change content, as you did at Kanawut Traipipattanapong, without citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Wikipedia:Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you. CodeTalker (talk) 14:47, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to add unsourced or poorly sourced content, as you did at Kanawut Traipipattanapong, you may be blocked from editing. CodeTalker (talk) 20:20, 15 August 2021 (UTC)
Please explain why you are reverting back to text that is completely inappropriate for an encyclopedia. The language is puffery and promotional. This is not his fan page. This is an encyclopedia article. I urge you to self revert and discuss on talk page. Continued disruptive editing will lead to reporting for Administrative action.Slywriter (talk) 19:30, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
- all information used are from reliable source instead of promotion. please stop deleting contents with reliable sources, e.g. his appearance on magazine covers like Bazaar, ELLE Men etc., from this page. Nattarintns (talk) 21:53, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
- Kanawut is back on track,
- non-encyclopedic
- his remarkable acting
- says who? Promo language
- In 2020, aside from his big project, Kanawut was also involved in a pilot miniseries, Secret Theory of Kissing, starring as "Neab", one of the main protagonists. In the same year, he also made an appearance in ต้องไป by IRONBOY.
- Youtube is not a source
- Kanawut's popularity kept surging
- his impact as a celebrity is acknowledged
- Promotional language
- Kanawut's latest news regarding his acting career came out in August
- Unnecessary language
- His career as a model rocketed after his portrayal as "Type" garnered attention
- rocketed? garnered? promo languagw
- offered him the chance to graze its cover
- He appeared. No need for puffery
- Since then, he has appeared on the cover of multiple magazines such as L'Officiel Thailand, Mint Magazine Thailand, ELLEMEN Thailand, Praew Magazine, Lips Garçon Thailand, etc. His successful streak as a model continued when Kanawut was chosen as one of the promotional models of Wrangler Evolution for Wrangler Thailand.<ref>{{Cite web|last=Thailand|first=Wrangler|date=December 22, 2020|title=Wrangler Evolution New Models|url=https://www.instagram.com/
- Instagram not a source. Endorsements covered only by subject and brand are clearly not-notable
- https://web.archive.org/web/20200929191423/https://twitter.com/GMMGRAMMY/status/1310915322459824129
- Twitter not a source
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uX_mv2IMUC0
- YouTube not a source
- Endorsements section
- Mostly unsourced or otherwise promotional
Thats a sampling of what you restored. Notice a lack of reliable sources or even any sourcing in several cases? Notice there is language that doesn't belong in an encyclopedia? So please explain how you were just restoring sourced material and not engaged in restoring promotional material.Slywriter (talk) 22:55, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
Thank you for the explanation Nattarintns (talk) 00:13, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
But why all of his presenter and ambassador jobs got deleted even when there’s sources listed? Nattarintns (talk) 00:16, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
- They are promotional. They belong on his social media, not his encyclopedia article.Slywriter (talk) 00:42, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
Thank you for the explanation. But I’ve seen quite a few wiki pages have ambassador jobs on them like this one https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suppasit_Jongcheveevat, and it belongs to the career I think. Nattarintns (talk) 01:06, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
And why the paragraph of him signed with channel 3 kept being deleted? I see no problem with other channel 3 artists https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maylada_Susri Nattarintns (talk) 01:09, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
- Other poorly written articles do not justify inclusion of same and similar material. Its also unsourced there and that article in general suffers from being edited from a fan pov, not encyclopedic. However, if you used the talk page and discussed, it's entirely possible that consensus would say it could be included.Slywriter (talk) 01:19, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
I’ll update his ambassador jobs just like other artists did on their Wikipedia pages later but with reliable sources. It belongs to the encyclopedia since it’s quite common to see here. As for the channel 3 contract, I’ll put it back exactly like how the other ch3 artists did. Nattarintns (talk) 01:19, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
May I ask why Kanawut’s page got investigated but others’ didn’t? Nattarintns (talk) 01:23, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
From now on I’ll update his page the way other artists did but with no puffery or promotional words, but I’ll include his endorsement jobs and his contract with channel 3, otherwise it’s an incomplete page since these two categories belong to the most relevant information Nattarintns (talk) 01:26, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
- You are reading what you want to hear. The endorsements are not relevant at all to the encyclopedia. And if you edit like other artist's pages, you are likely to just end up getting blocked from editing again. Find actual sources that aren't press releases, paid journalism or low quality entertainment sites that cover every move of artists. Wikipedia just wants the important details as shown by reliable sources, not what the artist, his fans or publicist think is relevant. Slywriter (talk) 01:48, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
May I ask why Kanawut’s page got investigated but others’ didn’t? Nattarintns (talk) 01:55, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
And could you please give me an example of actual sources? Like written in the book? The wiki page of most of the artists used press releases and tweets as sources. Nattarintns (talk) 01:57, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
May I ask why Kanawut’s page got investigated but others’ didn’t? And could you please give me an example of actual sources? Like written in the book? The wiki page of most of the artists used press releases and tweets as sources. Nattarintns (talk) 01:58, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
And if you got time, please check bts’s page out https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/BTS I’ll use that as a standard since they haven’t got any trouble here Nattarintns (talk) 02:02, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
I’m sorry I’ve deleted my tweet but I can’t reach the other Twitter user for now, I’ll try to contact her and tell her to delete that tweet. Nattarintns (talk) 03:39, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
May I ask why the information about his agency (channel 3) and the music section including both of his singles were deleted multiple times? I think these are all important details shown by reliable sources and are quite relevant from every aspect. Nattarintns (talk) 09:13, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
May 2022 edit
Please stop your disruptive editing.
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If you continue to disrupt Wikipedia, as you did at Kanawut Traipipattanapong, you may be blocked from editing. Reverting without engaging in discussion is disruptive especially when restoring overtly promotional material Slywriter (talk) 19:36, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
Your recent editing history at Kanawut Traipipattanapong shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See the bold, revert, discuss cycle for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.
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- all information used are from reliable source instead of promotion. please stop deleting contents with reliable sources, e.g. his appearance on magazine covers like Bazaar, ELLE Men etc., from this page Nattarintns (talk) 21:55, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
Notice of neutral point of view noticeboard discussion edit
There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Neutral point of view/Noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.Slywriter (talk) 19:51, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
Notice of edit warring noticeboard discussion edit
Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion involving you at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring regarding a possible violation of Wikipedia's policy on edit warring. The thread is Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring#User:Nattarintns reported by User:Praxidicae (Result: ). Thank you. PRAXIDICAE💕 19:56, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
- Not a smart move on your behalf to continue edit warring. PRAXIDICAE💕 19:56, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
Blocked edit
{{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}. ~Anachronist (talk) 20:10, 21 May 2022 (UTC)I will add that this block will either become permanent, or lead to a permanent ban from that article, if you resume this disruption after your block lifts. Considering your history and nature of your contributions, the block I imposed above is rather short, so I will not be entertaining any unblock appeals for this duration.
You also seem to be incapable of communicating on talk pages or in edit summaries. Wikipedia is a collaborative project, and communication is part of that. If you cannot collaborate, then perhaps editing Wikipedia isn't a productive use of your time. ~Anachronist (talk) 20:22, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
Nattarintns (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
didn't participated edit warring, just wanted to reverse the article to the original since user Praxidicae and user Slywriter keep deleting contents with reliable sources from the page Kanawut Traipipattanapong
Decline reason:
Yes, that is precisely edit warring. --jpgordon𝄢𝄆𝄐𝄇 23:10, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
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Nattarintns (talk) 22:11, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
- "just wanted to reverse the article" -- repeatedly. That is edit warring.
- Read WP:BURDEN and try to comprehend what it says. If you get reverted, the burden is on you to generate consensus for your change, on the talk page. You didn't do that. Instead, you kept reverting. And you clearly have not read the block message or the linked instructions on appealing, or my appended comment. ~Anachronist (talk) 22:53, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
Dear admin, user ScottishFinnishRaddish has deleted Kanawut’s birthdate from his page, could you please restore the birth date? I’ve checked other celebrities’ Wikipedia page and they all don’t have sources for it. I think the birthdate stated on Kanawut’s page is rather not problematic, plus it would be strange if there’s no birthdate on the page of a person. Please consider this. Thank you Nattarintns (talk) 15:19, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
Managing a conflict of interest edit
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Also, editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. Thank you. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 20:27, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
May 2022 edit
{{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}. Bbb23 (talk) 02:03, 22 May 2022 (UTC)I had blocked you for only 72 hours. This is what happens when you try to evade a block. And thanks to your canvassing efforts on Twitter to attract further disruption, the article is now protected so none of your friends can edit it either. I was willing to give you some help and mentoring, but I'm done here. Bye. ~Anachronist (talk) 02:47, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
I’m sorry for posting it on Twitter, I’ve discussed the reason why they keep deleting contents with the user Slywriter, she kept telling me the press articles are not reliable sources, but actually most of the artists’ Wikipedia page used press articles as sources and they didn’t get into any trouble, so I just assumed these two users wanted to create trouble to the specific pages, and I’m sorry for the hotheaded behavior. May I ask what are the reliable sources that can be used on artists pages? And what’s the judgement criteria of encyclopedic endorsements (because I’ve seen many artists’ got endorsements on their wiki page)? I’d like to apologize again for tweeting this issue, and I’ve deleted the tweet before it attracted further disruption. Admin could you please consider reducing the blocking duration? Thank you in advance. Nattarintns (talk) 03:07, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
I’m sorry I’ve deleted my tweet but I can’t reach the other Twitter user for now, I’ll try to contact her and tell her to delete that tweet. Nattarintns (talk) 03:33, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
- I think you are confusing press articles with press releases. Be that as it may. Usually, with an indefinite block, you can request unblocking after six months of not editing logged in or logged out and not using sock puppets.. (Block evasion so much worsens your situation. I just had an unblock request blow up in my face at WP:AN. The appellant had been evading their block.) Best --Deepfriedokra (talk) 04:02, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
My friend has already deleted the tweet saying this page is hacked. And we’re really sorry to have brought this issue on Twitter and sorry for the trouble caused to the users Praxidicae and Slywriter. Admin could you please consider unlock the artist’s page so that some relevant information of the artist, e.g. agency, singles and new dramas could be added to the currently incomplete page? I don’t want my own fault leads to the consequences that nobody else can edit that page which goes against the purpose of Wikipedia. I apologize again. Nattarintns (talk) 04:00, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
- The instructions in your block message include a link to a page that clearly explains what you must do to appeal a block. Now that another administrator has extended your block to indefinite, I cannot undo it. That decision must be made by a previously uninvolved administrator. And no, the article won't be unprotected. If you or your friends want to make changes to it, you must propose those changes on the article's talk page where the proposal can be considered by more experienced editors. ~Anachronist (talk) 04:56, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
Thank you for the explanation admin, I have one more question, if we want to make change to the protected page, after the proposal being accepted by the more experienced editors, who’s gonna publish the changes? Since in the previous edit warring, relevant information like Kanawut’s agency channel 3 under “Career” and his single under “Music” with reliable sources kept being deleted, what if the more experienced editors still won’t approve these kind of changes so that it may result in information inadequacy of the page? Nattarintns (talk) 09:05, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
Nattarintns (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
Dear admin, as you stated, I was blocked indefinitely for abusively using multiple accounts. I’m afraid there must be some misunderstanding, because I only have one account, admin you can check my IP address. I didn’t log out to make problematic edits as an IP address, I didn’t create new accounts to avoid detection or sanctions, I never used another person's account, nor did I revive old unused accounts and present them as different users. As for persuading friends or colleagues to create accounts for the purpose of supporting me, please let me explain. Me and my friends worked together for the Wikipedia page of Kanawut Traipipattanapong since a year ago, in which we helped each other collect sources, translate and update information, since I’m not good at English, it’s become a big help. This time we found out relevant information keep being deleted (some of them are due to lack of reliable sources and promotional intention and we’ll improve that in the future, but some of them like agency and music sections are relevant to the article) we thought it was done deliberately by hackers since something similar happened before (some user once kept deleting important contents from this article and adding fake news of Kanawut being married etc. to it) so we posted the issue on Twitter saying the page was hacked to ask for help to unlock the page, without taking a close look at the messages (this is the first time I learned how to read messages). But we just wanted to ask for help to unlock the page (by that time we thought the page was locked because it’s hacked) and we didn’t intend to persuade other friends to create new wiki accounts to support one side of dispute. I’m sorry for the damage caused to the users Praxidicae and Slywriter. As soon as I found out both users are not hackers, I deleted my tweet and later as I contacted my friend, she deleted her tweet too. I apologize again for the trouble and i promise this would never happen again. Admin could you please take a close look at my case and reconsider the block decision? Thank you. Best regards Nattarintns (talk) 10:02, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
Decline reason:
No misunderstanding. What you are describing is WP:MEAT and counts as sockpuppetry. Yamla (talk) 10:58, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
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Nattarintns (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
Dear admin, sorry for the inconvenience. I thought the accusation was based on the tweet I quote retweeted for asking for help https://twitter.com/kana_gulfieto/status/1528118943625658368?s=21&t=QetOvWl7jMLPT9TZltc9-Q but after I look up on the admin’s page who blocked my account, I just realized it’s actually because of the tweet where I asked my friends to undo the changes made on the wiki page. I’m sorry for my misunderstanding. And now I finally realized my precious action really is meatpuppetry since I persuaded my friends to disrupt the page editing and it may cause further edit warring. I apologize again and promise I’ll never ask others to disrupt Wikipedia editing process again and I myself will never join edit war or using promotional words and unreliable sources without discussing with more experienced editors first again. Admin could you please consider reducing my block duration? If anyone find out I’m doing disruptive editing and sock puppetry again in the future, you could block my account permanently. Thank you. Best regards Nattarintns (talk) 11:24, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
Decline reason:
No block is "permanent"; blocks without a duration last until the issue that led to them is resolved. It's doubtful that will happen here unless you refrain from editing for six months under any account or without an account, as a trust building measure. Once trust is destroyed, it is hard to get back. I am declining your request. 331dot (talk) 12:02, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
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- Nattarintns, you are not permitted to make requests to administrators, or to any users, to edit articles on Wikipedia. If you do so again, I will revoke your access to this page.--Bbb23 (talk) 15:20, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
Got it! Thank you admin for your advice. Nattarintns (talk) 22:02, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
I would advise you to simply step away from Wikipedia for about six months, and find something else to do with your time. There is no urgency in adding bits of news and trivia to an article about an entertainer. Wikipedia is a global encyclopedia, dealing with many topics across a planet inhabited by eight billion people; it is not a pop culture newsboard, and it doesn't matter if a single article doesn't have the newest hottest information about one performer for a few months or a year. If people really, really yearn for information about whats-his-name right now, they can find that information lots of other places. That's not what we're here for. --Orange Mike | Talk 20:14, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
Got it! Thank you admin for your advice. Nattarintns (talk) 22:02, 23 May 2022 (UTC)