User talk:Melodia/June 2008 to October 2011

Re: Gears of War

I noticed your note to GoW in his talk page, and I thought you might find the discussion between him and me on my talk page (first thread) interesting. I could also use a little advice, I think - this guy is really starting to get under my skin. :P — KieferSkunk (talk) — 02:09, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

I appriciate your advice and yet...i kinda dont care anymore. My attitude Wikipedia has changed and I have made a appology to the WPVG talk page so that adresses you to.Gears Of War 02:16, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

edit to sheet music

Sorry Melodia new here and I think I understand why you flagged the sheet music archive site as spam, but it has a LOT of free downloads -- it is a truly functional resource even if part restricted. Correct me if I'm wrong on this but if there is actually a significant amount of free stuff (I'm estimating about a quarter of the collection of pdf files is actually freely downloadable) then there is a serious argument for its utility value. I'm not looking to get into a flame war -- just wanted to address your spam label respectfully so it does not seem like a flippant undo. Pianomanusa (talk) 18:01, 16 June 2008 (UTC)pianomanusa

Are you out of your mind? Lot of free downloads? Are you sane? Let's take a look at Johann Sebastian Bach works: sheetmusicarchive.n3t/single_listing.cfm?composer_id=2

I'm not gonna count but it's safe to assume 80% of the music is locked, and all the good ones too. And it's so fragmented.

There's no use of the site if you can only get a very small portion of Goldberg variations, partitas and Well-Tempered Klavier Book. It would be much :better if you could get, for example, Partitias, but not Goldberg variations or other way around.

And who cares about quantity? It's not like you're getting 20$ out of 100$, it's more like - 4 times out of 5 you're visiting that useless site, you're :getting screwed and not getting sheet music for piece you looked for.

And how can you even ask money for works of Bach(i would understand if they sold printed music sheets). Bach's music is something what should be public domain.

Wikipedia is not a place for advertising rip-off sites. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Justice-cop (talk • contribs)

WikiProject Musical Instruments roll call

Hello, this is an informal roll call of past participants of WikiProject Musical Instruments. I'd like to revive the project and start bringing some musical instrument articles up to featured article status. If you're interested in joining us, please sign your name here and we'll discuss what everyone wants to do. --Laser brain (talk) 21:28, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

SMA Stuff

well judging from the post about it looks like you had the removed SMA link before, they didn't want to get into flame war, maybe they should have!!! I checked the editorial rules WPEL and SMA does not REQUIRE registration or subscriptions, it does have a lot of free scores and it is NOT RIGHT to just remove the link when IMSLP just copied a bunch of their stuff after already violating other companies copyright, that is why they went down, if you read WP:EL it is about being useful, SMA is useful as is!!, please leave it!! not just useful, it is a moral issue, thank you - AFUSING —Preceding unsigned comment added by Afusing (talk • contribs) 02:26, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Melodia, please see comments on sheetmusicarchive on sheet music talk page. Also checked on comments by afusing and it does seem reasonable to interpret both the rules and -spirit- of WP/EL to be an issue of usefulness of the resource. The point about not requiring registration or subscription, along with the issue of usefulness which the guidelines speak to, is accurate and another factor in favor of inclusion of sheet music archive. User:pianomanusa —Preceding comment was added at 15:55, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

The fact of the matter is simple really. 1) ELs need to enhance the topic 2) ELs need to be /as compatable with WP's mission as possible 3) A free resource is ALWAYS preferred over a pay resource -- and in this case there are MANY. Thus SMA just doesn't fit. ♫ Melodia Chaconne ♫ (talk) 16:05, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

Well, it's easy to see why likes of Afusing want to push SMA on wikipedia. I bet he works for SMA or something. And wikipedia is a good referer and helps with SEO too. There are literally hundreds of pages offering "some free sheet music"(and rest for cash) on the internet, i dont see why SMA should be there along with hundreds of other alike sites.

And i dont see any particular use for SMA, since you usually look for specific piece of music - which most of the time(95%) in sites like that asks you to pay.

I without hesitation will remove SMA and alikes from "Archives of Scanned Works". —Preceding unsigned comment added by Justice-cop (talk • contribs) 02:18, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

I believe it's already been blacklisted anyway. But thanks for the support. ♫ Melodia Chaconne ♫ (talk) 02:43, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Linguistics

I am a fan of linguistics and you recently made this edit note on IMSLP's article. "It's a quote...you don't edit mistakes in quotes." That might be perceived as more direct and authoritative than this: "Mistakes in quotes should not be edited." Which certainly would fall more lightly on the user. What do you think? --83.250.86.117 (talk) 16:00, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

You're perhaps right. I sometimes word things horridly. ♫ Melodia Chaconne ♫ (talk) 16:07, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

Final Fantasy IV

Please do not revert the page, the published Forum posts are actually confirmations of the Final Fantasy IV cast by the man who actually directed the video game voice overs himself Jonathan Klein. He works at New Generation Pictures, perhaps you may have heard of him. But yes those are the actual cast members.Jack Cox (talk) 05:47, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Italian names of instruments

In the orchestral world, the Italian names of instruments have special significance, because traditionally a score is noted only with the Italian name of the instrument. It's not universal any more, but it's still very likely that when you pick up a sheet of music, the name of the instrument will be in Italian. That's my reasoning that it's important enough for a separate line at the top of the infobox. Acsenray (talk) 14:21, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

Re: edit to Magnetic Rag

What's your issue with noting the copyright registration date for this piece? Also, could you point me to the consensus you mentioned? Stepheng3 (talk) 21:31, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

To actually state that is very, as it were, clunky. The lead is supposed to be concise, extranious info like that is unessesary, as simply the date gets the job done fine. As for the delinking, MOS:UNLINKYEARS. ♫ Melodia Chaconne ♫ (talk) 22:17, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

FFVII

I'm sorry about messing up the page. I thought I was doing a good job, but realized what my mistakes. Thank you.--Reezy (talk) 18:46, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

Your request for rollback

After reviewing your request for rollback, I have enabled rollback on your account. Keep in mind these things when going to use rollback:

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I love these kinds of articles

These types of articles are always a joy to nominate. You can imagine if this article was a completely different subject but in the same state you'd find very different comments being made by people.--Crossmr (talk) 01:28, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

Warning !

If you will kill my link without any weighty reason one more time I’ll send an official claim to Wiki administration for your abnormal behavior! Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Reggina (talk • contribs) 11:27, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Link www.freesheetpianomusic.com is deleted please let me know why?

I put a link to www.freesheetpianomusic.com that was deleted. Any comments??? Free Sheet Piano Music” is a free non commercial resource with unique(!) content. So I think it can be very usefull for some adultes peoples who start to teach play piano. So if the link is deleted please let me know why? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Reggina (talk • contribs) 13:18, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

I apologize for the fact you seem to have a memory lapse from two weeks ago, but it's been explained more than once about why your link doesn't belong on the pages you're adding them to, not to mention removing /other/ links like you are is in clear violation of WP:POINT. ♫ Melodia Chaconne ♫ (talk) 12:20, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Re Bach page

Thanks, I saw you fixed my "novice" problem with BWV 58. I appreciate your help! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Campelli (talk • contribs) 20:15, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

Futaba Channel

Hi there. You were a participant in the discussion for this article, which I closed as delete. I restored and relisted the article at AfD yesterday. I notified most participants, but somehow missed you and a couple of others. Please accept my apologies. The discussion is here. Xymmax ^{So let it be written} _{So let it be done} 04:38, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Hi

I saw your comment. Citations are a very good thing but some articles lack them. It's a difficult question to solve. Chergles (talk) 23:35, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Thank you

WikiThanks

Thank you so much for your response on WP:VPM, User:Knulclunk/Random is a gold mine! God bless, have a wonderful week. Ikip (talk) 03:17, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Welcome. ♫ Melodia Chaconne ♫ (talk) 04:31, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Plays with incidental music

Hi. I've got a fair bit of info in various places, much of it from Grove. Please feel free to add whatever you've got. Cheers. -- JackofOz (talk) 20:46, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

The Planets: "Adaptations"

Thanks for undoing the Reese's Peanut Butter Cup advert (which was already in the article in any event). I've issued a call to arms to clean up the Adaptations section. Talk:The Planets#Adaptations: needs some weeding?. You up for it? TJRC (talk) 00:22, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

Voice parts for Handel's operas

Hi Melodia. Regarding your recent post here, do you have the "voice part" information for Handel's operas (or do you know where it can be obtained)? If we can get the details, I'll have a go at assembling it in order to see how it looks. Cheers,  HWV258  03:57, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

No, that's why I was asking. I've been making my own works lists for my personal use, using my Chwialkowski guide and anything I can find online, but operas are often a bit hard to find exact info for. Sometimes I use Arkivmusic's listing to see if it has a chorus and what voice parts are main, but it's not always the best method either. ♫ Melodia Chaconne ♫ (talk) 04:37, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

WP:OWN

Thanks, didn't think about that one. — neuro^(talk) 01:35, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

Changing your interface

Hi Melodia, it's actually dead simple to change your CSS file so that you get exactly what you want. It would be great to have every bit of the screen customizable (and remember that for every thing you think should be selectable, 12 other people think something else should be selectable). But when this question came up the first time, Brion's response as I recall it was "yep". That's not a good indication that it will become an optional feature.

You don't appear to have email enabled, but I'll certainly be happy to help you make the necessary changes here on-wiki to disable the rollback link on your watchlist if you wish. Franamax (talk) 08:53, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

WP:ODD

Re: [1] - ouch! Bearian (talk) 00:53, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien

Good evening! You seem to know more than me (that is, anything) about the article Music of The Lord of the Rings film trilogy and our coverage of music. I was very impressed by the film trilogy's use of comprehensible and contextually relevant Middle-Earth languages. It's baffling that our articles on it don't seem to mention the fact. Are you aware of any particular reasons against doing so, or of a previous fighdebate on the subject? (Our decisions on language can be similarly opaque. I was told off for mentioning the meaning of the Finnish lines at the end of 28 Days Later on the grounds that the entire language constitutes specialist knowledge.) --Kizor 16:22, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

It actually talks about them a lot in the liner notes of the complete recordings, which could be used as sources for it. I haven't seen any sort of debate on it or anything, so if you have the CRs (or possibly the suppliments which can be DLed for free), I don't remember which, feel free to add sourced material about it. ♫ Melodia Chaconne ♫ (talk) 17:14, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

Rachmaninoff spelling

Hi. I couldn't help noticing this edit. I'm wondering why you feel it's "bizarre" to reflect his own spelling of his own name. Surely, if a person spells his name in a particular way, what right does anyone else have to argue with it? The –off ending is very common for Russian names in the anglosphere (or, it was back then), and it actually reflects the pronunciation (it's pronounced Rachmaninoff, not Rachmaninov). So his choice was far from bizarre. If he’d chosen to spell it "G50-cn4*^%0", now that would have been bizarre. -- JackofOz (talk) 22:41, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

External link discussion zinger

You made a comment in discussion on external links [2] that caused me to say "ha!" and smile:

"I'm trying to understand how a free flash player, and an almost universal music codec could even fathomably be considered under the "not everyone can" rule."

I was one of two Webmasters for a publicly traded company, and the position you are questioning is similar to one which was brought up every couple weeks: Web-safe colors. Professionals who designed Web sites 10 years ago (and people who thrive on little hard-and-fast rules to be applied in every situation) would bring this up. According to them, the smallish percent of people who don't have 100,000s of colors on their home computers would be terribly disturbed to see color schemes that weren't the way the Marketing Department envisioned them. (Happily, most of the people in that company were nerds, and the argument could be brushed aside.)

I think the restriction on formats in External Links started with the best of intentions: There are plenty of Web sites that would like you to download their "special plugin". Those people need to be bridled: those that are as interested in advocating the latest cool technology as they are in helping readers get the information they need. But, as you point out, Flash doesn't come in that category. I have two browsers, and in one (the one I'm using) I have security high, and no plug-ins installed. I can't see content on some pages, or even use them? Duh. I'm used to it. People who can't use Flash would have the same experience. They'd look at it and say "Oh, it's one of those pages".

I could ramble on, but basically, there's no reason to bring every Web page down to the 800x600 resolution, Web-safe colors, and no Flash. I'd rather target external links that take 40 seconds to paint on my broadband connection, then startle me out of my seat with a blast of music, if I haven't been cautious enough mute the speakers. Regards, Piano non troppo (talk) 08:36, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

Hat and hab

Hi there, I left you a response at Wikipedia:Village_pump_(proposals)#Asterisk_beside_resolved_proposals, I wasn't sure if you got it. Sorry about the archive tags, I didn't intend to use them to shut down discussion. I think that perhaps some of the earlier sections, which have been inactive for much longer than a week, and would have been archived if not for being attached to the main section, could use that template, just because it makes the page a bit easier to deal with. M 20:36, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Dvořák

Thanks Melodia, and sorry - it was my sloppy edit. --Vejvančický (talk) 11:34, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Straw poll on displaying time since last edit

Hi, you weighed in on the "display time since last edit on article" discussion at the Village pump. I have now started a straw poll on the subject at WP:Village pump (proposals)#Straw poll. Your opinion would be appreciated. --Cybercobra (talk) 04:52, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Super Audio CD

I really appreciate all of the help you have given us making the Super Audio CD article better. If you have time, I would like to have more editors talk with the IP who right now is really frustrated that the Super Audio CD article can not be edited by IPs. Samboy (talk) 15:47, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

4'33"

Okay, I did look in the talk page archives, but no substantial reason was given for excluding 4'33" from Unusual articles. The fact that it is mentioned in Encyclopedia Britannica doesn't guarantee that you would expect to find it there, which is the main criteria listed for inclusion. Furthermore, the fact that As Slow As Possible is already listed indicates that 4'33" is worthy of being listed. Cheers. C1k3 (talk) 06:49, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

Weeping Willow (Joplin)

I think we can at least list Joplin as one performer who recorded the song, since the article says he cut a piano roll in 1916. Are you saying that information is incorrect? Or that it doesn't apply for some other reason? --Stepheng3 (talk) 07:47, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

It's probably been recorded by at least 20 pianists alone (that's a low estimate) not to mention arrangements, etc. Sure Joplin made a piano roll of it (weather that constitutes a 'recording' of it isn't a question I can answer well), but there's no need to put it in the info box. I was especially concerned about the other pianist...honestly I wonder why the "recorded by" field is there in the first place. ♫ Melodia Chaconne ♫ (talk) 14:09, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

External links noticeboard

Hi, you seemed receptive to the idea of having an external links noticeboard. I just set up a draft of one in my userspace at User:Themfromspace/External links noticeboard. I would appreciate your comments to see if this is what you had in mind. ThemFromSpace 23:40, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

Disambiguating article titles

From how I interpret WP:NCDAB, proper names should be avoided whenever possible when disambiguating article titles. I assume you are using WP:NCM as your guideline; I believe that surnames should only be used when there is more than one piece with the same name, not when there are other articles with the same name but are not also a piece of music. This applies only to articles with a descriptive title, of course. Gary King (talk) 17:40, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

Please update your status with WP:VG

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dum de dum, notable, la la la

Sorry, I don't know where the musical note keys are.

As far as cities, I thought they are all notable. I think I will start a list of Wikipedia rules and history. Then I can quote from them. This is low priority for me, though. Suomi Finland 2009 (talk) 20:33, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

Greetings!

Greetings Melodia! Please check out the recent edits to Johann Pachelbel. Am also posting this message to User talk:Antandrus and User talk:Jashiin. Cheers!--Technopat (talk) 13:28, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

Polite Notice - Possible solution to Ondine merging

I am creating this notice to invite all interested parties to vote on the proposal to merge Undine (ballet) and Ondine (Ashton) to a new article at Ondine (ballet). You can read the discussion and add your vote to the poll at:

• Discussion
• Poll

Look forward to seeing you there to help resolve this situation, thanks! Crazy-dancing (talk) 11:21, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Order

On November 11 2009 (see [3]) you changed the order of the instruments in the The Planets article saying to at least keep it in the right order. What would this order be as I may need to use it on some other articles of mine? Thanks--Pianoplonkers♫^(talk) 08:42, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

I can't find a really good page on WP or off that goes into it, but they are listed in the correct order in orchestra. Basically, you always have woodwinds, brass, percussion, and strings, but there's also a certain order within each section (namely, flutes-oboe-clarinet-bassoon, horn-trumpet-trombone-tuba, and violin I-violin II-viola-cello-double bass .... of course, there's plenty more possibilities). ♫ Melodia Chaconne ♫ (talk) 15:19, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

Ok, thanks--Pianoplonkers♫^(talk) 20:06, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

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Merry Christmas

Hope you have a great new year too! --Jubilee♫clipman 01:05, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

Tchaikovsky and the Five

Hi, Melodia. I nominated this article to FAC a few days ago and would really appreciate your feedback. Thanks! Jonyungk (talk) 01:15, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

Another gentle ping from WP:VG

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Looks like you got edit conflicted back into the "Inactive" list and then got moved into Unknown [4]. –xeno^talk 23:13, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

That would do it. Yeesh. ♫ Melodia Chaconne ♫ (talk) 01:08, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

Categories: Music competitions prize-winners

Hello Markhh! Several categories related to music competition winners are being targetted, and I think it would be useful that you give your opinion regarding the neccesity (or not) of these categories and maybe later help proposing changes to the present guidelines (music awards and prizes). Category:Primrose International Viola Competition prize-winners has been already deleted. The categories proposed for deletion are #Category:Prize-winners of the Leeds International Pianoforte Competition, #category:Prize-winners of the Paloma O'Shea Piano Competition, #Category:Operalia, #Category:Ferruccio Busoni International Piano Competition and #Category:Prize-winners of the Besançon Conducting Competition. Cheers.--Karljoos (talk) 00:17, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

...onyt agoraf y drws...

I've been polishing up ...onyt agoraf y drws..., and I realised that there's are some spaces that grammatically, should not be there. The title of the article has a few spaces, and I'd like to know if the title should be changed because of this.

..._onyt agoraf y drws_...

I am more concerned about the second one, which according to Microsoft Word spellchecker, is wrong. Maybe you know the original way it was spaced, or could help me find it?? Brambleclawx 03:12, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

I can honestly say I have no idea. ♫ Melodia Chaconne ♫ (talk) 01:14, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

That's alright, I figured it out on my own; the spaces should be there. Brambleclawx 03:56, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

Re your question on the Village Pump

See Talk:Ejaculation. Massive discussion on what is "appropriate". --NeilN ^{talk to me} 15:48, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

But again, it's less a censorship issue than it is a content one in general, to me anyway. ♫ Melodia Chaconne ♫ (talk) 01:13, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

My recent comments and examples

Hello Melodia. I must apologise if I made you look like a fool over at the infobox RfC debate. I was merely trying to illustrate the reasoning put forward by several editors. I went somewhat over the top! My mockery of your style of commenting is inexcusable. After careful review (the debate is huge), I do indeed see your point in its entirety, now: infoboxes are neither obligatory nor forbidden anywhere; infoboxes are included in the greater majority of articles; exclusion in specific cases needs a clear and concise rationale agreed to by the wider community of WP; the use of taylored infoboxes should be considered as a serious alternative. To that end, I have resurrected an old attempt at a composer box and am looking at a sensible approach to formating it. It isn't easy: most of the code seems to be hidden somewhere. For example, why does the "Notable instruments" subsection in {{Infobox musical artist}} break off into its own headed section. Further example, why are some of the words in the transclution different from those in the template: "Alias" → "Also known as"? If you have any thoughts (the others certainly won't help, except perhaps Cricket) I would be most obliged! Thanks and sorry again --Jubilee♫clipman 19:19, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

I really don't know much how they work. And to be honest, my problems are less with including or not, and more with the reasoning and the blatant "no they suck for composers" and it all comes across as if somehow an early 19th century composers is special somehow where, say, an writer wouldn't be even though there's potentially the exact same general problems. I just think that some people are trying to say "this doesn't work so kill it, because people are morons for doing this" instead of "this doesn't work, how can we fix it". ♫ Melodia Chaconne ♫ (talk) 21:06, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

Actually, I'm beginning to agree with you: most of the editors at the affected projects have either dug their heels in or simply follow suit and shut up... You, Cricket and I seem to be the only ones that actually speak up against the "idiocy" (as you quite rightly called it). I made my position perfectly clear when I was elected the coordinator for CTM:

We also need to get the word out more about our activities. We risk forming a clique of core people if we are not careful since few editors involved in the project participate in discussions or initiate discussions of their own. I cannot decide if that is because these editors are facing no major problems with articles they are working on or because they feel unconfortable here or perhaps simply because they forget about the project. Whatever the cause, we need to ensure that 1) the project is welcoming to both newbies and oldies alike, 2) we are actually doing what people expect us to do, and 3) our help is constructive and informative within our own fields of expertise. And that we are prepared to accept and admit those things we just don't know and ask for help ourselves!

— Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Contemporary music/Archive 9

Nobody at Composers should be at all surprised that I am attempting to break up a well-seasoned clique and get a full and proper assessment of the situtation from "the outside". And indeed: why should Charles Dickens get a box and yet Richard Wagner should not? The two are exact contemporaries... Yeah, I really do get it now. --Jubilee♫clipman 23:08, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

Naughty!

Slap wrists! --Jubilee♫clipman 17:19, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

Eusebeus gefickt

Dear Melodia, I think you got it already, but you know I was only teasing in my comments. Just so we're clear. Eusebeus (talk) 09:28, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

List of popular songs based on Classical music

Really nice list there Melodia! :) --Rochelimit (talk) 23:40, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

new article needs a pair of eyes

One of my students wrote an article on the Evolution of Timpani in the 18th and 19th centuries. We've both reached a bit of an impasse on it, since I don't know that much about musical instruments, and this is his first wikipedia article. It's been deorphaned, etc., but it could use some evaluation. Could you, or someone you know, give us a hand with this? Auntieruth55 (talk) 23:03, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

I'm not exactly the type of person to evaluate articles and such. A quick glace seems to confirm it's well researched and pretty up to standard. Maybe a bit on the long side, but not overly so. Certainly an interesting topic! ♫ Melodia Chaconne ♫ (talk) 00:13, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Unfortunately named tree

Well, you're right, actually. Isn't quite as funny today... Martinor (talk) 04:50, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Re:

Taking your advice I read it again. I still don't see the problem. In my defence, weak though it is, I've heard of Elgar but I need to be enlightened with regard to "Edgar". In addition, I was reverting to your last version, leaving an edit in which an IP had removed an errant "m". Any light you would be able to shed on the subject would be appreciated. Thanks Tiderolls 10:21, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Nevermind. I read it a third time and added an interlink. Excuse the ring. Tiderolls 11:59, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

It's no problem. I had to check for a second with the original change myself. Oh would that more people would use edit summaries when needed... ♫ Melodia Chaconne ♫ (talk) 14:08, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

24 Caprices for Solo Violin (Paganini)

Do you happen to have expert knowledge that could help this article? Brambleclawx 22:26, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

Can't say that I particularly do. ♫ Melodia Chaconne ♫ (talk) 00:09, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

Alright then. Brambleclawx 18:02, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

Opinion for a requested move of WP:Ownership of articles

Hello! I have requested a move for WP:Ownership of articles → WP:Page ownership. As you participated in the previous discussion, could you please voice your opinion again regarding this move, as it is my intention to restart the discussion with a clean slate. —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 23:04, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

no problem

Mwalcoff (talk) 00:14, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

thanks

It was. Sorry. I reverted after like ten seconds but you already beat me to it. It's good to see Wikipedia is guarded well :) --dab (𒁳) 06:08, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

Sub-cats need tagging

Hi, I was wondering if you're planning to tag all of the sub-cats of Category:New York City Ballet repertory by season for deletion. (I made note of this in my CFD comment, but perhaps you missed it... ) Anyway, they won't be deleted if they're not properly tagged, regardless of what happens to the head category. Regards, Cgingold (talk) 12:21, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

Okay, I've just tagged several of the sub-cats to get the ball rolling -- and I'll do some more shortly. (I also fixed the link on your original CFD template.) So what you can do is go to Category:New York City Ballet 2008 Spring repertory and open the editing page. Then copy the text at the top (5 or 6 lines) that deals with the CFD template and paste that text onto the top of each of the sub-cat pages. The other thing that you need to do is compile a list of all the sub-cats to post on the CFD page. Be sure to put each one in brackets ([[:Category:Xyz]]) so the links appear properly on the page. (I will put the list into "drop-down" format for you.) Hope that helps! Cgingold (talk) 18:31, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Pending changes/Vote comment

As you commented in the pending closure discussion I am notifying you that the Wikipedia:Pending changes/Vote comment is now open and will be for two weeks, discussion as required can continue on the talkpage. Thanks. Off2riorob (talk) 23:46, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Pending changes/Straw poll on interim usage

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Spelling

Further information: [[:User talk:Silver seren#Bongomatic's Boredom|User talk:Silver seren § Bongomatic's Boredom]]

Bongomatic The Bored is having a little trouble spelling "residence organ". Perhaps you could help? Uncle G (talk) 02:29, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

Systemic bias: Problem of raising interest

Very surprised you blanked this out. I initially thought of using the talk page but then I saw the message

• This page is supported by the Countering systemic bias WikiProject, which provides a central location to counter systemic bias on Wikipedia. Please participate by editing the article, and help us improve articles to good and 1.0 standards, or visit the wikiproject page for more details

So I put it on the essay page as part of the discussion.

Very misleading! - Ipigott (talk) 18:06, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

No hard feelings. Just a line to let you know I have reinserted my slightly modified contribution on the project page. I imagine it was the rather personalised manner in which I wrote the initial version that encouraged you to remove it. Hope you think it's OK now. In any case, I'm glad I bumped into you. I too am interested in music and have made a number of WP contributions. You may be interested, for example, in Music of Denmark. - Ipigott (talk) 19:12, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

Well if you noticed, I didn't blank it per se, I moved it to the talk page, as it seemed more like discussion. ♫ Melodia Chaconne ♫ (talk) 22:07, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

Pump up da Clarinet...

The Library section on that site is now open access to read. It's just a listing database of compositions using bass clarinet - I wondered before I looked in if it would be copyvio scores! - which could be useful to players. (Not me - I'm still struggling with A and Bb clarinets...) I got this message from the creator (no, not from a burning bush) "I understand what you mean. The project is really new... full of ideas and project. I have to say excuse. In the site the most developed project is the Repertoire Library. I put it readable by everyone. Now also the book selection is readable by everyone. Thank you to made me reflect on this point. Hoping the external link now can stay on the Bass Clarinet Page. As soon as possible (e.g. when they will be ready) I will add the other project! Stefanocardo". See what you think. Peridon (talk) 16:25, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

It's still pretty messy, and very obviously has a conflict of interest issue. ♫ Melodia Chaconne ♫ (talk) 16:45, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

Well I don't know what do you mean for conflict of interest. I'm a bass clarinet professional player, I'm principal bass clarinet of Teatro alla Scala of Milano, and with some of my students and colleagues we are trying to do a website where it is possible to find articles, and information on bass clarinet, his history and his present. Do you find this in conflict with something? The site is new, and it is a collaborative project. American resercher like Al Rice (one of the most important of our time) from the Oxford University decided to contribute for the site develop. I cannot understand your position. Really. Stefanocardo (talk) 17:03, 18 October 2010 (UTC))

Few things: first, the database of composition has 1069 voices, is one of the most wide library of repertoire that you can find in internet. Second Is the only library that informs you of the Liric and Symphonic repertoire for bass Clarinet. Third it is constantly update, adding information and giving link to downloadable score from Petrucci libray IMSLP. (Stefanocardo (talk) 17:22, 18 October 2010 (UTC))

He does play clarinet with La Scala - http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teatro_alla_Scala#Organico_dell.27Orchestra_del_Teatro_Alla_Scala_di_Milano (which I've just done a tidy-up on...). I'm inclined to put it back in. It's obviously not spam - just a little untidy as yet. They'll get it sorted sooner or later. Peridon (talk) 19:45, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

Please see WP:COI to see what I meant. Basically, as you contributed a large amount to the website, you shouldn't be the one linking it. ♫ Melodia Chaconne ♫ (talk) 22:13, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

So it wouldn't be COI if I put it in.... Peridon (talk) 22:38, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

Musical form

Please contribute to discussion at;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2010_December_21#Category:Musical_forms

Thanks Redheylin (talk) 07:08, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

Removal of an Original Ampico piano recording of Rachmaninoff

Hello Melodia,

I am curious as to why you removed my posting of the Ampico piano roll "Were I a Bird" in the "Sergei Rachmaninoff" Wiki? T made this recording from my original Ampico piano roll, on my grand piano in my living room. This is not a commercial recording. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.165.75.80 (talk) 03:41, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

You can't just link to a reproduction of music, even if you've recorded it yourself. The key question is whether the musical piece itself is still subject to copyright. If the piano roll was made before 1923, you are pretty certainly OK, but otherwise we need assurance that it is either: in the public domain; or essential to understanding the article topic; or somehow your own creative work which you are knowingly licensing for use under our license terms. Beyond that, we remove such links. If you can show the piece is public domain, you should register an account and upload a media file so the playing can become part of one of our articles. Otherwise, think about it, you're just a "DJ" and we're just a radio station. :) Franamax (talk) 04:20, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

There's that, and the fact that we can't just link to every little random recording out there, especially from the main page of the composer (if it were on the song that MIGHT be different, but even then that's not necessarily good). Now, if you're able to make a compatible license and upload it to commons, it might be ok to integrate it into the article as a media example. ♫ Melodia Chaconne ♫ (talk) 05:11, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, I was trying to go one thing at a time. :) First off, is it free of copyright? If so, and the editor has made an authentic recording of a piano-roll, then please good sir/madam, let me help you through all the steps to upload that music within our licensing framework. Details of which article it's in and how we can't include random external links can wait - if it's copy-available and attestable, we want it, preferably on Commons. That's my first goal. ;) Franamax (talk) 06:47, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

GMTA

;)TCO (talk) 03:27, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

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Notification

Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Wikipedia:Wikipe-tan_conflict IvoryMeerkat (talk) 15:19, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

• Dear Melodia, while I have no quarrel with the content of the edit, the edit summary was unnecessary, in my opinion. Let's try not to escalate matters. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 17:06, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

Notification

Please see ANI thread regarding a recent edit of yours at Fan service. Cheers, --JN466 14:48, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

Now who's getting worked up?

[5] - giggle.  :) :) -- Jack of Oz [your turn] 20:24, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

^_^ ♫ Melodia Chaconne ♫ (talk) 22:00, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

Quodlibet

So if I read your explanation for your undo correctly, you're saying there can't be an X (Y) article unless there is also an X article without the (Y) qualification? In the case of the existing Quodlibet article, the status quo gives the impression that quodlibets are always and only musical forms, when in fact there are other meanings of the terms that are probably not themselves worth having stand-alone articles about. So a stub Quodlibet article that alone reads kind of like a wiktionary[6] entry, with a link to Quodlibet (music)? Help me out here. Jbening (talk) 21:16, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

Grainger

Thanks for your edits in the Recordings section. You are quite right, of course; the Chandos Edition hopes eventually to record all Grainger's compositions and folk settings, but has a way to go. Thwaites estimates there will be 25 volumes in all. Brianboulton (talk) 12:48, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

Jacques Offenbach

Thanks for commenting on the Offenbach list article. User:Tim riley is working on the main Offenbach article and will soon unveil a substantially expanded and improved version. I hope you will take a look at it, once he makes the changes, and comment, so please watch the page. After this, he plans to add the non-operetta compositions to the list article, and again we would much value your review and contributions. All the best! -- Ssilvers (talk) 21:36, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

Please take a look at this and see if anything was archived that still needs to be on the talk page. Thanks! -- Ssilvers (talk) 13:31, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

Jacques Offenbach

I have revised the article and put it up for peer review: if you would like to comment there I should be most grateful. Tim riley (talk) 21:22, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

Arpeggione Sonata

Please see Viola sonata#Work list.--GAVVA23212 (talk) 20:13, 17 August 2011 (UTC)

Whatever. Readd is if you want to stroke viola player's epenises. ♫ Melodia Chaconne ♫ (talk) 22:06, 17 August 2011 (UTC)

Keiko Matsui edit undo

Hello. I am the webmaster for Keiko Matsui and made the recent changes of birthdate removal for Keiko's personal privacy per her request. If you would like to confirm, please go to her homepage <www.keikomatsui.com> and click on the wbmaster link at the bottom to send me a message which I will respond to. We understand that Wikipedia is an open system, but thought that there were provisions to allow a living subject to request year of birth, rather than complete month-day-year. This is only the second time we have accessed Wikipedia edit (the first was about a year ago to also remove her birthdate), so may not be aware of all proper editing procedures. Thanks for feedback, as we would still like to show only date of birth (there are several incorrect birthdates for her on the Internet). Nelsonjho (talk) 23:45, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

I'm not an expert but I believe you want to go through WP:ORTS to get an 'official' ruling on that. A random deletion of info with claims that can't be backed up is not the way to go about it. ♫ Melodia Chaconne ♫ (talk) 01:48, 1 October 2011 (UTC)

Will give WP:ORTS a try - appreciate the suggestion Nelsonjho (talk) 13:31, 1 October 2011 (UTC)

Thread you might find interesting

See here. Thanks! Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 21:31, 30 October 2011 (UTC)