User talk:Longhair/Archive9

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Portal:Australia/Anniversaries

Hi Longhair. I have started a proposal at Portal talk:Australia for an inclusion of an anniversary/on this day section to be displayed on the portal. If you are interested in this making this happen, you can comment there or go to the anniversary pages and adding in things that you consider to be notable events. Regards, Blnguyen | Have your say!!! 04:17, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

User talk:JackLumber (edit | user page | history | links | watch | logs)

JackLumber (Contribs) continues to bully/harrass me, calling my knowlege "faulty" and even making and unauthoused edit by striking something out in a comment of mine and calling it "blasphemy." I think Jack needs to be blocked. Myrtone@Longhair.com.au:-(

PS some of the dialogue can also be found on my talkpage

Thank yoy for welcome

Your friend

Augusto maguina 04:12, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Sources/Info/Need more help :)

You helped me out with the Sam Soliman page/pic and now I have another question. Or favor to ask. In the Jonestown article am I wrong to expect more sources than what I see there? I see all properly documented sources for all the supposed "conspiracy" information, but it seems that the widely accepted "mainstream media" information goes un-sourced. What is the standard wiki-practice for this? If it's supposed to be NPOV, shouldn't that apply to both conspiracy nut and mainstream lemming? And is there more specific help already documented for issues like this crap? I enjoy the wiki...but it seems a bit tough for a n00b to get his handle on things...which is why I came back here...to the first person to give me some help :P

Btl 03:10, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

But how much is too much to expect for sources in an article as controversial as the Jonestown mystery? I just don't like seeing a medium such as Wikipedia end up towing the company line for histroical events mired in mis-information such as this because a few people have the right style. Anyways, thank you for that help, I'm going to stick it in a few blatant spots on there but I know it treads a line between sourcing and over-sourcing that must annoy a certain percentage of people on here.

Thanks a trundle.

Btl 03:30, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

Picked up on the colons for the discussions. Err. Whatever the two dots are if they're not colons.  :) Anyways, Jonestown, to me, represents the most horrific, frightening bit of inhumanity one human can exert. Since we're all humans, I think the fright should apply to all of us. I doubt we'll ever know what happened, but I know it scares the shit out of me and even more so how passively people overlook it.

You've been a huge help with everything. I'd mail you a bundt cake if it weren't so far.

Btl 03:44, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

Need your pedantry/technical expertise

Hi,

I just created a new article at insult comic. Could you give it the Longhair treatment in terms of categorization and cleanup please? - Richardcavell 03:17, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

Another one

I've started Ricky May. You're better at category/stub sorting than me. Would you mind? - Richardcavell 04:42, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

I'm also surprised that Ricky May didn't have an article, so I constructed one based on my own memory and a web reference that I found. He died back in 1988 (which makes me feel very old, since I remember him on Hey Hey), and I guess he was not current when the Internet became a record of goings on, as it is now. - Richardcavell 04:50, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

Yet another one

I'm on a roll. Kenja, please. - Richardcavell 05:17, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for your hard work

		The Barnstar of Diligence
		I award this barnstar to Longhair, for categorising, clarifying and wikifying the substantive edits of other contributors without subtracting from their substance, texture or originality. - Richardcavell 05:41, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

Welcome to VandalProof!

Thank you for your interest in VandalProof, Longhair! You have now been added to the list of authorized users, so if you haven't already, simply download and install VandalProof from our main page. If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me or any other moderator, or you can post a message on the discussion page. AmiDaniel (talk) 08:35, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

Perth Concert Hall

Hi there. You recently added a template for pictures to be added to the Perth Concert Hall article. I added an image to this page the other day, and seeing as the article is only small, maybe one is enough for now? Thanks, --Ali K 02:52, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks again :) --Ali K 03:29, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

User EurowikiJ keeps removing warnings and ignores them

Hi. Could you please help - User:EurowikiJ keeps removing warnings from his talk page. He was warned several times not to blank sourced sections, but he neither wants to discuss it and ignores policy warnings. Now he even removes warnings from his talk page. Could you please help?

Thanks. Mostssa 11:31, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

Richard Davey

I'm mystified, I thought Richard was an actor and director, this stuff about film - where does this come from? With respect, he's an author and shakespearian to boot, but film? SatuSuro 08:53, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

HM Prison Risdon

Thanks for the image of the prison. I'm impressed your image arrived only a few days after my request. Well done. -- Longhair 21:58, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

Not a worry, I've had that picture for some time, but as i'm only a new user to Wikipedia, i've only just figured out how to upload pictures. Wiki ian 00:39, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks.

Thanks for the timely response to my {{db}} requests. --Folajimi 01:56, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

• Mea culpa!!! I'd be more careful with that tag in the future! :P Cheers. --Folajimi 02:00, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Could you please repeat the procedure for my user page? I'd be very grateful. --Folajimi 16:06, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
    • Did you decide yet? --Folajimi 03:38, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
      • I figured it fell off your to-do pile and landed in the "forget" pile! :P Yes, just the user page, please. Thanks! --Folajimi 03:47, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
        • That was quick! Thanks! --Folajimi 03:48, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
          • You mean there are gestapo-wannabes running around here? For shame! --Folajimi 03:51, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

Critique

Hello again,

Let me know what you think of Peter Loney; good, bad, or indifferent. Be honest! --Folajimi 04:25, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the feedback. Please refine the stub, if you can. Also, if you can find a high-quality image to include with the entry, that would be splendid. --Folajimi 04:29, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

What gives???

Why are you requesting links that are already BLUE ??? :P

See you around... --Folajimi 05:16, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

When you get a chance, please see if you can fine-tune Rod Blake. Thanks. --Folajimi 18:25, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

Wranglers 04

Seems the article was recreated. I was about to AfD it before noticing the discussion link was the archived one. Not really sure what to do. Thanks. Landeyda 08:48, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

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HEXAGON Software

You've marked an article for deletion even though it meets the Software Criteria. Please refer to the Discussion page on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HEXAGON_software ... thanks! (Yosofun 04:57, 1 June 2006 (UTC))

welcome message

I just got your welcome message on my talk page. I just want to check whether this was a routine (but warm) hello, or a (tactful) hint that I hadn't read all the guides well enough? Please forgive me if the latter is the case. It is a lot to take in at once. Anyway. Hello. :-) Ireneshusband 05:40, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

Righto. Sorry if I sounded touchy. I didn't mean to at all. -- Ireneshusband 06:13, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

Removing Vandalism

Hi! Longhair, what is the quickest way to removing vandalism and to go back to a previous version? RMehra 05:59, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

It worked. Thanks! RMehra 06:12, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

Thankyou

Thankyou Longhair for your very kind and helpful welcome. WildBlue 06:58, 1 June 2006 (UTC)Wildblue

Ambroise Voillard

Could you please fix the issue with Ambrose Vollard? A user short-circuted the move process, and the traceability of the document is lost... --Folajimi 23:49, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

• The original document was Ambrose Vollard; its contents was moved via a copy-and-paste job to Ambroise Vollard today. --Folajimi 23:59, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Is it possible to delete Ambroise Vollard, then — via a move operation — shift Ambrose Vollard to Ambroise Vollard? The idea is to retain the history of the document, which was originally located at Ambrose Vollard... --Folajimi 00:08, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
    • You are a champ. ;) --Folajimi 01:46, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

Gas-s-s-s

Wow, could you give a guy two seconds to reread the page and put a link up? Also please check the talk page, if you didn't already (I did see a link posted). thx... Zephyrad 07:09, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

User page

Theft Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery :-)--A Y Arktos\^talk 11:44, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

disposal.

Could you please get rid of this at your convenience? Thanks. --Folajimi 18:35, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

• P.S. When you get a chance, could you please check to see if the image included with the Emerson Hart entry had always been as awful as it currently looks? Thanks! --Folajimi 22:11, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Thanks for the update. Cheers! --Folajimi 13:37, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Bury this, if you'll please... --Folajimi 21:12, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

• Thanks for the timely response. If you can, please sort Frank Costa as needed. --Folajimi 22:05, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
  • One good turn deserves another. ;) Besides, the UPS will have a hard time matching this kind of expediency... --Folajimi 22:24, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

P.S. The {{otheruses}} tag was placed on the article since there are a few other notable characters with the same name. Unfortunately, most of them represent the worst in people... --Folajimi 22:28, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

• Please give this the deep-six at your earliest convenience. Thanks. Folajimi 20:40, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Also, could you please blank my user page again? Is communicating with others via their talk page license to touch my user page? Folajimi 13:10, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
    • Please remember to delete this image when you can. Thanks! --Folajimi 15:28, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

George Wallace from Judytan

Hi Longhair, My article is about GEORGE WALLACE not a Gordon Wallace, but thanks for pasting my info back to me. How do I now post it on Wikipedia properly? This is my second article and I had no problem with the first one so I dont know what I was thinking with this one. I need the article to go under headings such as Australian People, subs, Australian comedians etc but how to do this from here? Can you help me with this please> Yours in dumbness Judy Tanner —Preceding unsigned comment added by Judytan (talk • contribs)

From Da almighty bunghole (logged out)

thank you for notifying me that my username was innapropriate. i will make arangements to change it as soon as possible.

George Wallace Australian Comedian

Thankyou for helping me with this article Longhair. Can I also ask you about another article I wrote on Australian cartoonist Les Tanner. I noticed when I went back to it today that it looks as though it needs some editing where I mention that Les Tanner won a life time achievement award for services to the arts in 1999. Finally I want to add a few more articles and would like directions on how to create a page Thanks again Judy Tanner

Pat Frank

I thought I'd point out that Pat Frank is not a user page. Thus, your post to Talk:Pat Frank is, well, inappropriate, I guess (though not in the meaning of "offensive"). Just a heads up. --OneSeventeen 03:57, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Sig needed.

I would greatly appreciate it if you could help me make a really fancy-schmancy sig while you're at it! --Folajimi 22:36, 3 June 2006 (UTC) <- I remembered this time! :P

• Here are some that I like, which were used by others on my talk page:

1. TheKMan
2. rodii

Hopefully, these avoid being obnoxious... --Folajimi 22:50, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

• I think I'll stick witk your initial proposal — an auto-sig script. --Folajimi 23:02, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Frank Costa

Did you know that he was involved in a brouhaha earlier this year? It apparently involved political contributions which were under the table. --Folajimi 00:45, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

• Can you show me how to include the symbol for the Aussie dollar in articles? --Folajimi 00:46, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
  • I'll just stick with the nebulous '$' symbol. If anyone's confuzzled, tough cookies! :P --Folajimi 00:51, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
    • Is it just me, or is this page broken? This site has some great stories; too bad I can only view them via the cache provided by Google...
  • "Our local media hasn't learned yet about internet archiving."

Why did you have to put them out like that? You didn't need to put them out there like that! That is so wrong. :P *snickering* --Folajimi 01:02, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

I think it's fair to say that this entry has exceeded stub status, don't you think? --Folajimi 02:48, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

• Figures. Blast those two-bit, no-account, gestapo-wannabes!! Oh well. There's one in every crowd... --Folajimi 02:53, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
  • To answer your other question, I live in the U.S. --Folajimi 02:55, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
    • Do you know if "Australian Sports Medal" might be known by another name? It's currently a redlink in the entry. As is Point Richards... --Folajimi 03:01, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
      • Try this to see if it helps... Folajimi
        • It would really be splendid if you could find someone to do it. Besides, why should I hog all the good stuff? ;) Later!!! --Folajimi 03:13, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Just out of curiosity, were you the one who left the AFL invitation on my talk page, or was it Rogerthat? I'm confused...

• That's rather nice to know. I was beginning to wonder how he knew that I lived in Perth... Folajimi 01:50, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

User is blocked

I have just been blocked from editing Uncyclopedia, see the block list there, my username there is MyrtoneXXXX. Myrtone@Longhair.com.au

Peake.

Check on Archibald Peake the SA premier entry when you get a chance, and include cats as appropriate. I'll be sure to include more details soon. --Folajimi 21:59, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

• Nevermind. Petaholmes took care of it, lickety-split! :P --Folajimi 00:06, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
  • There is an issue relating to the successor box for Peake; I'm not sure how to show that he preceeded and succeeded John Verran. Please see if you can fix it. Cheers. --Folajimi 21:38, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
    • The issue apparently has come up before; check out Grover Cleveland and Frederick Holder for details. Cheers. --Folajimi 23:51, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Opinion

Hello Longhair. Can I have an opinion at WP:ANI regarding a proclamation of sockpuppetry en masse? Thanks. Blnguyen | Have your say!!! 07:48, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

It's under the "What do you suggest I do" heading in my talk. PS2pcGAMER, another admin has forum access and verified the authenticity. Later in the thread there is an admission as to the WP identity of forum user "Fenriswolf". Ambi thinks indef pending review, incidentally.Blnguyen | Have your say!!! 07:58, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for having a look. I talked to Raul about it on email in vague terms, and he said that arbcom takes a "dim view" of such announcements. Later in the thread, "Fenriswolf" is confronted about the editlist of User:PatCheng stalking and editwarring and "Fenriswolf" doesn't deny he is the PatCheng who is battling against the other user.Blnguyen | Have your say!!! 08:12, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

So I shouldn't block? the arbcom would take a very dim view of anyone who made such statements.Blnguyen | Have your say!!! 08:16, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

"Fenriswolf" is the username of the proclaimed sockpuppeteer on GameFAQs. He is later confronted down the thread as to whether he edits as PatCheng and he agrees with battling on WP.Blnguyen | Have your say!!! 08:36, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Here is the additional extract provided by PS2pcGAMER. "Fenriswolf" seems rather proud when confronted about whether he is PatCheng. Blnguyen | Have your say!!! 08:44, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

YINever | Posted 6/5/2006 6:32:41 PM | message detail Oh as for what this is about, Fenriswolf took up stalking me at Wikipedia late last year and has stuck to it up to the minute.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/PatCheng

His contribution history is a complete shadow of mine whenever I am active. It mostly consists of watering down information critical of communists and adding polemics to those which reflect poorly on China.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Military_budget_of_the_People%27s_Republic_of_China&diff=prev&oldid=57098949 http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=George_Bernard_Shaw&diff=prev&oldid=57098277

As for why, I don't really try to guess the pathologies of online stalkers, but he seems to have imagined some comment of mine about his fascist father. Poor guy.

--- Fenriswolf | Posted 6/5/2006 7:58:25 PM | message detail As for why, I don't really try to guess the pathologies of online stalkers, but he seems to have imagined some comment of mine about his fascist father. Poor guy.

So you're admitting it huh?

I am PatCheng and I beg to differ. Looking at Fenriswolf's profile, his account was created in 11/3/2002 5:39:52 PM, whereas I did not come across Gamefaqs until early 2005. IIRC, this "fascist" claim derives from a bad flame-war on the War on Terror board, where a China-related topic degenerated into a flame war between TJive and several pro-Chinese users. When merits of China in WWII was bought up, someone said that said that many of them has grandfathers who fought the Japanese, TJive claimed some along the lines "China fought fascism, only to become a fascist country". I naturally take offence at this comment as soon as I have heard it. I don't know about the claims of Fenriswolf, but I only have one computer, and do not the time or resources of "100's of IPs" to evade 3RR.--PatCheng 13:26, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Hello Longhair, what are you thinking? Snottygobble also appears unimpressed. "Fenriswolf" now claims to have hacked into User:PatCheng and also RevolverOcelotX, who have been team-reverting many articles. I think that the two accounts are severely compromised to say the least. Blnguyen | Have your say!!! 01:55, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Blnguyen, your accusations are false and not true. Your accusations of me being a sockpuppet of PatCheng has been has been proven false by this CheckUser. Check my contributions, I haven't been team-reverting any articles ever since I was blocked for 3RR on Mao: The Unknown Story. --RevolverOcelotX 03:09, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

I did say have been, didn't I?Blnguyen | Have your say!!! 03:12, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

But you make false claims that my account is "severely compromised" without any hard evidence of this. There is no link between my account and PatCheng as shown by the CheckUser. --RevolverOcelotX 03:45, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

I have stuck a block pending further investigation. This is due to a closer examination of the user's history. This user has made serious repeated racist insults at Japanese, called for the death of Jung Chang (I don't think WP is a soapbox for inciting hatred) and has sworn and insulted other users many times - I have posted to WP:ANI. There was more claims on GameFAQs that he isn't PatCheng but only hacked into his account. I think the conduct has gone beyond the stage where "wiki-bail" should be afforrded.Blnguyen | Have your say!!! 04:22, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Desiminas

Hi. Could you delete a redirect page which is now at Gediminas because that place is needed for the article of that ruler. His successors and predecessors are under their simple first names, therefore this one hops to the eye when looking at. Lists, categories, so forth. This is to better achieve consistency. I moved the earlier (edit-history-containing) page to another location, and now the page at the desired spot is a simple historyless redirect. Maed 21:03, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

More categorization

Cringe humor, please. I'm actually thinking of making more topics like this and linking them somehow, through a category. - Richardcavell 03:29, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Incorrect placement for username template on user pages (not user talk pages)

I have removed some of the username templates on user pages, but retained them to their talk pages. If it has something offensive, like TestAccountSucks, I place the {{indef-user}} template because other admins place the {{subst:Username}} on the talk page. It's nothing serious, but I fixed it. It's not vandalism or anything bad, I'm actually helping Wikipedia in a minor error one caused. If you feel that I'm doing anything wrong, talk to me about it on my talk page.

Salutations, --VW 22:45, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Re: Quick legal question

AUSTLII doesn't hold information on cases pre-1997 online for the VSC or VSCA. I'm wondering where I'm able to find information relating to several cases of murder that occured during the 80's and perhaps before. I was thinking the State Library may be able to help, or is there another database I'm not aware of online? Hoping your legal mind can assist. Thanks. -- Longhair 02:30, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Lexis Nexis would have it, but that is a subscriber service. Xtra 02:50, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

If the cases were unreported you might be able to get them from the Supreme Court Library website, which has PDFs of unreported cases since about the 1950s. If the cases were reported (in the Victorian Reports) then you'll have to go to the hard copies (at the State Library, or at university libraries, or in the Supreme Court's library by appointment). They're available online but only through the subscriber services (Lexis Nexis, as Xtra said). Some public libraries do subscribe to them, at least the State Library does.

On the other hand if you know the name of the case I can probably get the judgment and email it to you, although I'm not really supposed to do that because of copyright reasons. --bainer (talk) 03:01, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

vandal warnings

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Aww...

I had to make a complaint on this user's talkpage but that user removed it without my consent, and calims to reseavre the right to do so, and claims the same of any established user (I never do so on my talkpage unless it is clearly vandalism). Just becuase of that right doesn't mean that it is civil to do so, why didn't they just respond to it. Myrtone@Longhair.com.au:-(

PS I have just left a reminder on my userpage, because Tony has been nasty to me, blocking me for an apparantly crass reason, "taking the piss." He also called my response "dumb insolece" which uncivil and nasty. I have also removed his personal attack but Doco coudn't understand and restored it.

Tom Price.

It turns out that there is more than one Aussie who is named Thomas Price; and they happen to be notable. Who's on first? :P Folajimi 00:41, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

I'm not sure. I'd say they'd take equal par with disambigutation, if the other is by chance the reason for naming of the town, Tom Price, Western Australia? -- Longhair 00:44, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

I had no idea about the American. I was referring to Thomas Caradoc Rose Price and, of course, the premier. I didn't even know that it was a town! Unbelievable! :P --Folajimi 00:51, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

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WM query.

I see your meter just went down a notch. Who's got your goat??? --Folajimi 23:02, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

• Thanks for catching the needed cat! I've got red-eye from working on that article for the last two hours. :P --Folajimi 01:54, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

RfI

True or False: Mayor of Geelong == Mayor of Geelong West == Mayor of West Geelong ? I'm confused. --Folajimi 12:50, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

• I'm going to brute force the list then; anyone who's ever been a mayor of ANY Geelong is going on the list! :E --Folajimi 00:24, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

T/F: Geelong == South Melbourne? --Folajimi 14:39, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

CoCat

Hey Longhair, I noticed you do a lot of work with categories, maybe you will find this tool useful: CoCat. I myself only become aware of it today. cheers, pfctdayelise (translate?) 02:34, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

Geelong Cats player articles

You might find this site useful for looking up career games and goals for Geelong players. I certainly have. Cheers, Reyk _YO! 07:06, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

My RFA

Longhair, thank you very much for your support in my recent Request for adminship, it passed with a final tally of (65/3/3) - which I find both amazing and humbling. I wish I had time to thank everyone personally, but I'm afraid all I can offer is this token of my gratitude. I hope to live up to your expectations/hopes. If at any stage you need to contact me, for help or a request or to point out a mistake in my conduct, please make sure to tell me on my talk page. --Fir0002 08:19, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

Images

I have updated some photos for Wikiproject Geelong of Geelong Station. Market Square and Westfield Bay City. I will try to get more of St. John of God Hospital etc. at a later time. --themit 10:33, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

[[Category:Comedy by genre]]

Hi,

I've been creating the articles:

• Cringe humor
• Blue comedy
• Racial comedy
• Insult comedian

I'd also add

• Observational comedy
• Slapstick
• Prop comic

And I might create

• Political comedy
• others

It might be necessary to move some of these pages so that the final word matches up (comedian/comedy/humor). I'd suggest the word 'comedy' would be the best final target.

What do you reckon? - Richardcavell 05:41, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

admin

hi longhair. i was wondering since ur a admin can u change my user name? if so plz change it to noob_lol

Welcome back

Hey! I never even knew you came back from wikibreak! --Folajimi 00:24, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

• No rest for the weary, I guess! :) --Folajimi 01:49, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
  • So, what's the story with the GHC? --Folajimi 03:01, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
    • Blink, and give disaster a chance to strike! --Folajimi 03:08, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Meghalaya Article

Hey! Longhair. For some unknown reason, the Meghalaya article has become inaccessible. Everytime I try to access the article, I get the message, "Unknown file type". Can you help please? RMehra 07:47, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

Hi Longhair! Thank you very much for your attention. The problem seems to have gone away for now. Your help is much appreciated. RMehra 16:48, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

Max Stuart

Hi, I am feeling a little tense at recent edits to the Max Stuart article. I have raised my concerns with the editor (User_talk:Beneaththelandslide#Max_Stuart) and on the article's talk page. I need to walk away but would appreciate if you could have a look. Thanks--A Y Arktos\^talk 09:10, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

• Hi it has been removed from GA status. I am well aware I don't own articles, but I feel Beneaththelandslide overstepped the mark with being bold. Despite being invited to discuss changes on the talk page and having specific flaws pointed out to him, he is just not responding as I would hope, ie with at the very least further edits to at least (fully)copyedit his contributions. --A Y Arktos\^talk 19:58, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Thanks - there are of course no deadlines associated with this :-)--A Y Arktos\^talk 20:05, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
    • More copyediting needs to be done but he has done some--A Y Arktos\^talk 20:08, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

Mayors.

Do you know if the list of mayors is accurate as it currently exists? --Folajimi 17:41, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

• It is but one of the items on my to-do list anyway. --Folajimi 17:54, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
  • The source for this information is Google. Keywords are 'Mayor Geelong'. It's like searching for a needle in a haystack. Perhaps you have a local library that will carry useful info? --Folajimi 05:45, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
    • Perhaps you could check with the Geelong Heritage Centre? I would have gone on your behalf, but it's not exactly in my neighbourhood. ;) --Folajimi 18:25, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
      • Was Thompson really the first mayor of Geelong? I thought it was Fyans. I think I even read somewhere else that the first mayor was inaugurated in 1903 (?) --Folajimi 22:49, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

*****Fyans was never mayor; he was only nominated. At the time, he was a magistrate. Whether or not the source of this information can be trusted is a different story entirely... --Folajimi 23:03, 29 June 2006 (UTC) ******Just in case, here's a different source carrying the same information. Folajimi 23:05, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

• A Sad Panda at the GHC just informed me that there was never a Geelong mayor named Thompson.
  • I guess that takes care of that... Folajimi 23:46, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
    • Is it possible to move the article away from the main space (perhaps to a sandbox) until all the information can be vetted? Folajimi 23:49, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
      • The list is... What happened? --Folajimi 11:07, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

I've just updated the List of mayors of Geelong with the years each person was mayor of Geelong, as much as I could find on the Internet. I also listed the online references. As has been suggested, the Geelong Heritage Center would be able to provide much more information, and would be an important source of verification. Alas, I am on the other side of the world. I hope this assists rearranging the list into chronological order. I'd do it myself, but it's now 1 AM here! --Jacknstock 06:10, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Excerpt

Although I am loathe to spam talk pages, it seems this is the only means by which I could relay this possibly helpful information to you. I would have sent it via email, but your account has yet to have email activated.

Anyway, below is the relevant excerpt from some recent correspondence I received:

"Geelong : 150 years of community leadership 1849-1999 by Norm Houghton, published by the City of Greater Geelong in 1999. It can't be borrowed but is on the reference shelves at Belmont, Corio, Geelong, Geelong West, Newcomb and Ocean Grove libraries as well as the Geelong Heritage Centre.

This includes all Mayors and Councillors of City of Greater Geelong and all the former municipalities that have been amalgamated into CoGG. There are 28 pages in the book and the last is the complete alphabetical list included years they served as Mayors and separate entries for years of Councillors.

Norm was the archivist / director of the Geelong Heritage Centre for more than 20 years and got his material from the original council sources in the archives so you can rely on it's accuracy. Of course there could always be the odd error but it's going to be far more accurate than most.

I'm sure that your contact would be able to photocopy these twelve pages (VERY small print!) for research purposes.

About Foster FYANS / Alexander THOMSON - the facts (from Norm's book and other reliable sources) ...

"Captain Foster Fyans, the town's police magistrate, was appointed mayor and administrator pending elections for a full council. The elected council held its first meeting on 9 February 1850 and voted Dr Alexander Thomson as mayor."

So technically Fyans was the first "mayor" but only in an administrative capacity to for the Town Council. Alexander Thomson was the first ELECTED mayor and Fyans was never a member of the elected Town Council.

People could argue that both men were the "first" mayor which is why it always needs clarification when stated. i.e. If you say Thomson was the first mayor it should really be stated that Thomson was the first elected mayor.

I hope that helps. Folajimi 01:48, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

• Tommorow is GHC day. --Cheers, Folajimi (leave a note) 10:45, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Today is the day! ;) Cheers, Folajimi (leave a note) 01:25, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Image:Ehedaya juneau birdeye.jpg

I haven't logged in for a while now, but I noticed you deleted the image I uploaded. I took it myself on vacation last August. Is there any way to revert the image so I don't have to go through the upload process again?

Joliet Prison photo?

Given the current policies, the only way you can get a picture on here without the wiki-nannies yelling at you is to go take it yourself. Wahkeenah 02:10, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

Geelong photos

Can you think of any Geelong-related articles that might need images but aren't tagged accordingly? I've got a lot of time on my hands at the moment, so I'm thinking of taking the family digital camera for a day and going on a photo spree in Geelong. (I also saw Folajimi's talk page - you leaving Geelong?) Rebecca 22:28, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

Sweet. I've watchlisted the page, so if you think of any more, please add them there. (Lara might be a bit hard to get to, though - I'm on the other side of town). :)

I'm on IRC now - you still around? Rebecca 23:04, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

Re: Lorne, Victoria images

Glad to be of service! My wife and I enjoyed a stay in Lorne, Victoria while on holiday in 2002. I have been meaning to scan in and add the photos to the article since I re-wrote it in March 2005, but your request served as the final kick in the pants I needed. :-) -- Kralizec! (talk) 22:23, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

Just so you know, I replaced all three of the images I uploaded yesterday (including Apollo Bay, Victoria) with correctly-named, colour-corrected, compressed versions and nominated the originals for speedy deletion. --Kralizec! (talk) 17:04, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

2nd opinion

Hey Longhair I need a second opinion. I just blocked User:ShitBob 28‎ for obvious reasons; only 2 edits, both were speedied (last 2 items in my deletion log). Do you think those were joke edits or newbie mistakes, ie. should the IP be unblocked? CanadianCaesar Et tu, Brute? 06:46, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

What do you mean? I blocked it indefinitely. CanadianCaesar Et tu, Brute? 06:48, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

Usually not. I've seen exceptions. I do block inappropriate usernames, but usually, yeah, they're not worth even unblocking the IP. CanadianCaesar Et tu, Brute? 06:53, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

Oh, I see where the confusion came from. What I meant was that I blocked him because of the username, not because his only contributions were speedied. Sorry. CanadianCaesar Et tu, Brute? 07:06, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

Hi Longhair,

Thanks for your mail on computer repairs. I haven't started reading it yet (still trying to figure out how to but i'll get there). Once I become more acquainted with the controls in wiki, i'll produce some pages more efficiently and effectively.

thanks

from

Bismarc 06:00, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia welcome message

G'day Longhair. I notice you left a welcome message on my talk page. Feel free to email me at canberrauser & gmail.com [e-mail address disguised from spammers] to discuss anything you wish to talk to me about. 202.161.13.218 06:50, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

220.239.116.22

I reverted Tifa Lockhart again, but it seems that 220.239.116.22 is continuing to change dates, etc. Unfortunately, I'm at work and have to go. I thought I would just bring it to someone's attention before I went. Thanks. SWAdair 08:56, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

Fender

Wouldn't banning 69.209.125.36 be a better choice than sprotect? He's the only recent vandal. --Chris (talk) 16:53, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

reply

No problem, keep at it! --Chris (talk) 16:56, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

Authorship

I notice what you have said about your licence but I think you will find that all these articles were originally written by me and have been published elsewhere. I decided to reproduce them on your site for the benefit of your readers but I have decided that your site is not worth supporting and I want my articles withdrawn. What are you going to do about it? --Jack 18:47, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

• I am not wasting any more time on this site. I simply want to remove my articles because I no longer want my work displayed on a site that I no longer have any belief in. --Jack 18:54, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

Okay, I have read about the GFDL and it appears there is nothing I can do unless you actually agree to search for every article introduced by me and delete it, especially anything re cricket or philately. I am making one thing clear and that is that although I have technically agreed to submit my material to you under the terms of the GFDL licence, there is no way I will surrender copyright as original author and, as I say, everything I have submitted to this site has already been published elsewhere. Goodbye. --Jack 19:03, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

Hello again, Longhair. As you can see, the eruption is over and I'm back to fight the troublemakers from within. Walking away changes nothing. I'd like to thank you for kind words and for trying your best to be helpful. That was very good of you and I appreciate it.

The problem, which I did not explain, is the old one of interference in a dedicated project by people who inhabit the deletion pages and are not acting in the best interests of the readers, the project or the project members. I was trying to improve categorisation which has become messy with stray articles all over the place and it resulted in couple of categories being identified as redundant duplicates that gave no added value. In the course of finding the best and most useful categories for the relevant articles, these two categories became not only redundant but empty. I didn't know what to do about them and I was told verbally by one person to leave them because a housekeeping bot will remove them in a few days. Then another person on the site wrote to me and suggested I should use the CFR/CFD process to follow convention and I decided to do that. In turn, I was accused by the "deletionists" of acting in bad faith, breach etiquette and breach of protocol because the categories had already been emptied. I tried to explain that the work had already been done with the knowledge of the cricket project and that I was acting in good faith to try and improve the structure of the project for the benefit of the readers. I have had this sort of thing so often in the past that this time I just blew a fuse and you know the rest.

I contribute on here to try and share knowledge and I try to do everything in a positive way. The problem is that there are people using the site who are negative: there is one who proclaims himself on his user page as a "deletionist" and I really cannot understand that sort of mindset. Another problem is what amounts to political correctness and I believe I encountered this yesterday: I didn't understand the procedure and so I acted in bad faith and breached etiquette. What can you do with people who think like that? As far as the procedures for deletion, etc. are concerned, they need to be simplified and they should be contained on one page somewhere. Most of us haven't time to scroll through convoluted stuff like that.

What I would like to know is how do I identify an appropriate administrator? Basically, I need to know who are the administrators for the cricket and philately projects and what they can do for us in keeping the deletionists and outside interferences away from our work. I believe that what happens in a project should be under total control of its registered members only and I would like to know if that can be achieved?

Any help or guidance you can give me will be much appreciated. All the very best. --Jack 08:39, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

There are several active admins involved in WP:CRIC (yours truly for a start). Come to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Cricket and we can work this out. -- ALoan (Talk) 09:48, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

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Of welcomes and db-bios

Hi Longhair! I felt like dropping you a line for a couple reasons. First off, you were the first to welcome me to Wikipedia about a year ago [1], and I'm not entirely sure I thanked you properly for that, so thank you! :o) I daresay I've enjoyed my time here and have decided to stay. The other thing is that I just deleted an article that you tagged as {{db-bio}}, Street sludge. Just curious why you would tag it rather than simply delete it- perhaps you wanted a second opinion, or didn't have time to delete it yourself? Anyway, thanks again, and I'm sure I'll see you around. EWS23 (Leave me a message!) 06:15, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

Sure, no problem. Extra diligence and erring on the side of caution are never mistakes. I wasn't really that perplexed by it, but it gave me an excuse to drop you a line. :o) Take care, EWS23 (Leave me a message!) 06:22, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

Application to redirect Computer Repair website

Hi Longhair,

I read about the policy used by Wikipedia and I believe a site that I've been contributing to is contradicting this policy. I'm writing a tutorial on Computer Repair and this doesn't seem to be the place to write tutorials (only encyclopedic information was suppose to go here). So can you take a look at it and if you dont mind, move it for me with instructions included.Please advice.

Thank you, from

Bismarc 14:05, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

Bendigo Prison image

Thnaks for your comment! It was a bit of both actually, due to the car park in front of the prison now, that was the only place I could get a decent shot of the whole front of the building. --Richmeister 09:46, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Cigarette Spammer

Just wondering why you didn't warn the spammer at this article after you reverted their edits here. Because they re-added the link again.--Andeh 10:00, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Was the additional warning really necessary? It's just a plain spammer.--Andeh 10:03, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

OK, you are forgiven. :-)--Andeh 10:10, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

More picture questions.

I'm still completely stupid when it comes to how to tag and what is acceptable for pictures. This leads me to bother you again. My main problem is putting pictures on individual boxers, or obscure ska bands pages. If I'm lucky enough to find a picture, from the band or boxers own personal website that has no disclaimers as to picture usage, would I be able to upload that, and what would the proper tag be?

The real problem is most of the boxers are young, and ska bands long broken up. Both being obscure anyways. So if I'm lucky to find a random image suitable for the page, there is no claim to photography credits, and I can't locate the source of the picture but it's the only legit picture I can find....is there any way that is acceptable and if so, what tag would be correct? I've read through the guidelines, but afterwards it occurred to me that I'm not very educated, and nothing helped my issue. Unlucky for you, since you popped my wiki cherry, I come back to the teat with more questions. --Btl 20:15, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

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Max Stuart

Hi thanks for your note. I appreciated that you were quite busy possibly in real life and it wasn't a very clear cut debate. I was disappointed that the article was altered such that another editor no longer thought it was a good article. User Beneaththelandslide (Michael) suggested in a comment (which he later removed when I objected to what I saw as a personal attack) that Enjoy rewriting history on wikipedia so you can misguide readers by hiding the '"facts". In response to his invitation, (User talk:AYArktos/Archive05#Max Stuart, see also discussion at User talk:Beneaththelandslide#Max Stuart) I rolled back his edits as I had no access to the source (Walter Crocker's book on the Playford Government) and I disagreed thoroughly with his rearrangement of headings. Michael had all Stuart's later life and imprisonment under the heading Release. He has since restored some of his earlier additions but without changing the heading order.

I feel that Stuart is very interesting not just because the case was infamous - many people of my parent's generation will be able to remember and talk about it heatedly - but also because of Stuart's later life. I feel strongly the article has to present the person as a whole. This is not because I wish to 'Enjoy your Aboriginal elder hero", it was because I was amazed to discover this during my researches and feel all the facts are important.

So have we got the facts right? Is this article "too dry"? Is it too sympathetic? What do you do about the description of the crime - is "found at midnight bloodied and mangled with her face smashed in" appropriate? Is the Image:Max stuart.jpg appropriate or does it convey bias? Is the heading order at present on the right track?

Regards --A Y Arktos\^talk 11:17, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Wikiproject on crime

I think wikiprojects can usefully help to focus on similar articles whereby all articles improve. It terrifies me slightly there is so much potential in the Australian crime area. I am also bemused that I have dabbled so much. I do read detective novels, but not a lot and would not have said it was a passion, but my contributions might suggest otherwise. I am really not good at coping with gory or gruesome detail though. Arthur Upfield, yes, but definitely not Patricia Cornwell :-) I am fortunate not to live in interesting times personally and have had no real life connection with crime. --A Y Arktos\^talk 11:17, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

• Good luck with your move and I hope your future experience of the legal system is merely vicarious through the wikipedia. I can appreciate it must be a terrible strain and somehow the system's results are not always those which seem just or deserved.--A Y Arktos\^talk 11:44, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
  • I think the grading scheme is really useful. I like info boxes too to help bring out key features of similar articles and getting quick facts out but they can get burdensome and too big. The book one seems useful though - thanks for the Latham diaries pic.--A Y Arktos\^talk 12:06, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the welcome, I have the project on my watchlist and I will help when I can. Your adopt a page comment interested me, I think this is the best way for me to focus. I worked at Port Arthur for four years as a guide and I would like to bring that up to GA status.Ghostieguide 23:51, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

References

I must say I like your policy of whacking {{Unreferenced}} on every unreferenced article you come across. I reckon it should be in the manual of style: every article must have a non-empty references section, containing either references or an unreferenced warning. If we made that change the first outcome would be that Category:Articles lacking sources would become so huge that we'd have to introduce an "unreferenced article sorting" project, just like the "stub sorting" project. And that might actually motivate some people to provide some references for all these unreferenced articles. Snottygobble 06:42, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

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New users' welcome

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Jack Carroll (criminal)

About your deletion of the article. I respect your decision for the delete of it but was it not rather hasty, there was no notice whatsoever. If a notice was put up even for one day I would have been able to explain the article if not just to warrent me a simple courtesy. Now, my only real problem was that I would have really liked to have been able to save the page to my computer for future referencing before it was deleted but now it appears that this cannot be done, due to a brash and seemingly rude decision on your part, but I suppose that would co-incide with the "criteria for speedy deletion" rule.

The reason why I can see that you decision was justified is because I agree that in all respects, despite having a almost far-fetched life, Jack Carroll was not a major player in the Australian crime scene. However, the page was unfinished and hadn't yet gone into the detail of his drug escapades and criminal life. The information i had posted would have possibly been a great asset for Wikipedia's future articles about Perth organized crime (especially in the Joondalup area). If you know of any way i can retreive the information that was typed into the edit page of "Jack Carroll (criminal)" page, including the brackets used for the links and the codes for the infobox etc, then that would be most appreciated. In return i would be happy to not post anything about Carroll again until, if this happens, we see him on the channel nine news in a drug bust (therefor indeffinately warrenting an article). Thankyou for any co-operation, in the short time that the page was up i grew quite attached to it :P --Alexbonaro 11:29, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

• I have created the user page User:Alexbonaro/Jack Carroll. While the article was correctly deleted in my view in accordance with Wikipedia:Deletion of vanity articles, such articles are allowed to be userfied.--A Y Arktos\^talk 07:31, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

Brenden Abbott

Can you please move the page to reflect the correct christian name, im not sure how to Ghostieguide 07:24, 4 July 2006 (UTC) Hi Longhair Indeed his name is indeed spelled Brenden with two EEs, I checked, so the page and all links need changing. If you know how. btw I saw the postcard bandit tonight on dvd, quite enjoyed it Ghostieguide 12:36, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

Avoca

Hi - thanks for your note about Avoca, Victoria. My interest was initially family history related. It is a while since I have been down and my photos are all on film. Illustrations of mining and war memorials would be good, as well as general impressions of the town - wide main streets are not easy to photograph :-). Also the nearby localities of Homebush (school) and Lamplough. The article on Pyrenees, Victoria is missing pictures also. A picture of a mullock heap could be useful - I never knew what one was before I went there. Since I guess you are travelling along it, a picture of the Sunraysia Highway could be an enhancement too.

Hope your move is going well. Regards --A Y Arktos\^talk 23:20, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

west coast tassie

Thanks for your input, doing very unco-ordinated updates on my west coast arts - was there for the last week of the lake margaret power station working, sigh. Best Wishes, SatuSuro 02:06, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Block of 202.72.148.102 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)

Hey -- it's been moot for hours now, but this block caused some collateral damage. That particular IP is shared by a ton of users, and there's a notice on the talk page that admins should not block it for more than 15 minutes. No big deal of course, but I couldn't think of any better way of addressing the problem than simply mentioning it to you. Mangojuice^talk 04:34, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

No need to unblock, I think the block expired. But anyway, jeesh, what a jackass. :( Mangojuice^talk 04:42, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Wwwilly

This user, whom you blocked for being WoW, posted an unblock request on unblock-l mailing list and has been unblocked. Just to inform you. :) Kimchi.sg 05:31, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

The Kathy Oltion article redirects to the Jerry Oltion one

Please help. When I created the Jerry Oltion article, I accidentally gave it the wrong name, and then moved it, and I'm not sure exactly what I did, but now Kathy Oltion links (like the one on the Star Trek: New Earth article, for example), redirects to the Jerry one. I'm still kinda fuzzy on how redirects work. Can you help? Thanks. Nightscream 08:37, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Ned Kelly

I think Ned Kelly is more important, I think I read in Bill Bryson's Down Under that Manning Clark spent 9 pages on Kelly and 1/2 a page on Federation. Doesn't matter whether or not Bryson was right or not (I think he is, becuase I looked up Manning Clark at the time), it is the perception of what is important. I think this article is high - ie "Subject is a must-have for a print encyclopaedia" - could you imagine an encyclopaedia without an article on Kelly?--A Y Arktos\^talk 11:25, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Pub olympics

I now trying write a proper article/set of rules for this. Please can you take it off the deleted list.

Article assessment

Talk:Geelong Hospital looks good :-) --A Y Arktos\^talk 12:31, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

WikiProject Australia

Very nice, if I do say so myself! Although better examples might be in order...  ;-)

A minor quibble, though: why not link to us in addition to (or instead of!) the basically catatonic ADF? Kirill Lokshin 03:03, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Ah, I guess that makes sense.

If I might offer a bit of general advice, I would at least think about/discuss actually merging some or all of the descendant WikiProjects into "task forces" or something of the sort. It would simplify some of the 1.0 issues with double-tagging articles and so forth; and it may also change the group dynamic (in admittedly subtle ways) towards a more cohesive centralized project. This is only based on my own experience, though (as I don't think any other project has tried creating non-independent subprojects), so feel free to ignore me and do whatever works best in your case. Kirill Lokshin 03:18, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

I think a certain amount of overlap (between Military history and Australia, anyways) may be a good thing, since the projects will view things differently (the importance ratings, for example, are likely to vary wildly between the two), and the templates will link to different sub-projects. The more unfortunate overlap is with the ADF project, but they weren't particularly interested in merging anywhere a month ago (though this may be different now that we have a dedicated Australian task force). My own preference would simply be to use the Australian task force as the natural point of intersection between the projects; everything in Category:Australian military history task force articles will have both {{WPMILHIST}} and {{WP Australia}}, but the contents of the two tags should be different enough (except for the quality class, perhaps) to make it worthwhile. Kirill Lokshin 03:27, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

I could be misreading your contribs list - is there a specific focus on what you are tagging with this?SatuSuro 11:05, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

List of Australians rather large

Should we move some of the longer sublists such as Film and Television and Sport to new pages and perhaps leave some of the more notable notables in place as well as Main Article:? Grumpyyoungman01 12:28, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

University High Football Photo

Hi Longhair

I'm not very savvy with editiing Wikipedia, but from what I can see, you've placed a photo of a University High football team on the Melbourne University Football Club website.

It's a great photo, but the University High Football team has no connection with Melbourne University Football Club. The University High side is quite separate.

Just thought I'd let you know.

Cheers.

Angus

Fair use problem with Image:RoelfVos.jpg

I notice you uploaded the image Image:RoelfVos.jpg with the {{web-screenshot}} fair use image tag. However, it appears that this tag is totally unrelated to the content of the image, and as a result it may qualify for speedy deletion. Image:RoelfVos.jpg has been tagged for deletion, and may have been deleted by the time you see this message.

If you can find a valid tag that expresses why Image:RoelfVos.jpg can be used under the fair use guidelines, please replace the {{web-screenshot}} tag that you have placed on it with that tag. If no such tag exists, please add the {{Non-free fair use in|article name that the image is used in}} tag, along with a brief explanation of why this constitutes fair use of the image. If the image has been deleted, you can reupload it but please ensure you place the correct tag on it. However, you must not remove the speedy deletion notice. Thank you, and please feel free to continue contributing to Wikipedia. --Stifle (talk) 15:09, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

WikiProject Australia

Hey, what can I do to help? I was thinking of maybe working on the {{welcome-au}} template or something like that, just I don't no what is required. Just give us a buzz. MyNameIsNotBob 22:52, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Coordinator?

• Hi Do you think we need coordinators. I know the Military have organised themselves that way, but given the topic area, one might expect some heirarchy to creep in :-) It is also an area prone ot controversy - by definition it is documenting many controversies. Australians could quite possibly manage with merely contributers. Just a thought - I don't feel strongly about it, but note you are doing a great job in getting it up and started without a title :-)--A Y Arktos\^talk 23:31, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Please can I have some Template help

• Hi I seem to be failing miserably with the Template:WP Australia and Wikipedia:WikiProject Australia/Project banner. I am trying to add the military project. My computer then crashed and I lost whatever I was doing that wasn't working anyway. Can you help please? Thanks--A Y Arktos\^talk 10:50, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your support in my RfA!

Thanks for voting! Hello Longhair/Archive9, and thanks for your support in my recent RfA. I'm pleased to announce that it passed with a final tally of (96/0/0). I was overwhelmed by all of the nice comments and votes of confidence from everyone. Thanks again, and see you around! OhNoitsJamie Talk 02:08, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Australia infobox

Wow, you're up at 2:45AM doing admin tasks? To make your life easier, you might want to see the list that we were working off when we created a whole lot of constitutional law articles recently: User:Enochlau/Constitution. Cheers. enochlau (talk) 16:47, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Russell Island

Thanks for suggestion about the Russell Island article. I have uploaded a photo to the Commons but, as this is my first attempt, I am a little lost about putting the image in the article. I have made an attempt and you can see the resulting coding. Not sure what I am doing wrong. Would you help? Leeshipley 08:22, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

Cricket is not a proper noun (according to the hill, but I still say that it is even though it isn't)

Category:Lists of Australians in cricket, I made a mistake with this one, Cricket should have a capital C. Do I shift all of the pages in this category to Category:Lists of Australians in Cricket and someone can deleted the old one, or is there some magic power which allows a category to be renamed and everything linking to it to be corrected?

I think I probably answered the question myself, just checking though. Grumpyyoungman01 00:50, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

The word "cricket" is not a proper noun. Problem solved! --Jacknstock 04:24, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for chasing up that deletion log Longhair. Although I still say that Cricket is a proper noun, the article on Cricket disagrees and to disagree even further would be like pushing shit uphill. You would have to start on the article itself before anyone would accept a capital c in the Category. Cheers Grumpyyoungman01 05:24, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

Importance of Australian places

Hi - just thinking out loud about the importance of Australian places. Obviously some places are of top importance - eg Sydney and Uluru. Other places though are hardly are unimportant in a way. I suspect a place would be rated as nothing lower than Mid class - ie "This article is relatively important to this project, as it fills in some more specific knowledge of certain areas." High-Class for places might mean large regional cities such as Ballarat or Albury (or Geelong). It might cover mountain ranges such as the Pyrenees whereas the Great Dividing Range is top. What do you think? Otherwise I was wondering about adding an importance parameter which was verifiable place or gazetteer inclusion or some such. Regards--A Y Arktos\^talk 05:33, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

Another view needed

Hi - Could you take a look at Talk:Dog on the Tuckerbox for me. The same anon was the subject of the dialogue at Wikipedia:Australian_Wikipedians'_notice_board/Archive_21#Gundagai and has contributed extensively at Talk:Gundagai, New South Wales including attacks on another user at Talk:Gundagai,_New_South_Wales#Coolac_bypass_discussion_revisited. He was warned over those attacks at User talk:203.54.9.141. I obviously need to walk away. I find it very frustrating though that he is editing many many articles I have edited over the last year or more. Some ocntributions helpful, others less so - particularly unformatted, unsigned rambling comments on talk pages - frequently inserted into the middle of comments made by others. Thanks --A Y Arktos\^talk 11:28, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

• Thank you. Although the IP changes frequently, the edits are clearly recognisable and on a range of pages associated with Gundagai, NSW history, Bunyip and Bunyip aristocracy, Australian gold rushes ... mostly pages I have edited and therefore have a watch on. To stay clear I practically have to have a wikibreak (may be a good idea :-) ) Ranges can be blocked and I don't see anybody else editing from those IPs. I will leave it to others to follow up, though I may well seek assistance - I suspect not a good idea for me to block since I am too involved. S/he has learnt about referencing so seems to have taken in some of the discussion about verifiability and no original research, but is very arrogant and rude and does not assume good faith, nor is s/he civil.--A Y Arktos\^talk 11:46, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Couldn't help myself but signing off right now!--A Y Arktos\^talk 11:53, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Why did you delete my page

If you didnt know rylan garand is a very important person, you might not have heard of him but i didnt finish writing the article and i was going to write the important stuff next. rylan garand is actually an important figure in popculture in canada, but mainly manitoba.

Uncategorized?

You recently listed flower garden as uncategorized, though it had two stub markers on it, which effectively categorize it. Surely this is an error. --Kaz 17:59, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Whitlam

I await your advice on why you think think this is a second-class article and what it needs to become first-class. Adam 05:55, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Aussie ratings

		The Working Man's Barnstar
		For your hard work in setting up the infrastructure and evaluation process for WikiProject Australia.Blnguyen | rant-line 06:47, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Hi there Longhair. All Australian biographies etc, are eligible for this, are they not? I'm just wondering because you seem to have done a few of the articles that I wrote in Category:Olympic swimmers of Australia but you didn't seem to go through them systematically. Forgive me if I seem a bit anxious or overboding, but basically all of my writings are in solitary confinement (including about 90 in this cat), so it would be good to get feedback (or told off) about my writing. And I'll hopefully get involved too; but adminnery seems to have affected me in a very bad way that I seem obliged to fix up every problem on WP. Of course that's not correct for me to think that I am responsible for cleaning everything up (It seems that despite deleting 3000+ articles in six weeks, there is still a backlog and I have not written a single line in that time, which is unfortunate), but I've been having trouble breaking out of the habit. Best Regards, Blnguyen | rant-line 06:47, 11 July 2006 (UTC)