User talk:Kingboyk/Archive 21

10 16 17 18 19 20 Archive 21 22 23 24 25 26 30 Board election Thank you to everybody who voted me for in the Board election and I can only apologise that I'm not able to repay your vote by working for you on the Board. I'm reasonably happy with the result given that it was my first time standing and I'm not as well known as many of the candidates. Good luck to the 3 people elected and I hope and trust you will do a good job. This is a busy weekend for me as my brother is getting married today, so I won't be available to answer messages. --kingboyk 10:59, 14 July 2007 (UTC) Hey Steve - it was an excellent showing. Thank you for stepping up, and hope you'll go for it again. Best wishes to your brother! Tvoz |talk 23:23, 15 July 2007 (UTC) Thank you. We had a really lovely day, and the weather was unbelievable (not a rain cloud in sight). --kingboyk 10:31, 16 July 2007 (UTC) Well done for running and putting in a good show. Anything I can do in the future (endorsing, copyediting etc), just let me know. Deiz talk 12:17, 16 July 2007 (UTC) Shame you didn't get elected - I was hoping you would, and voted to that effect. LuciferMorgan 18:11, 16 July 2007 (UTC) Ditto. I hope you do consider running again net time. John Carter 18:14, 16 July 2007 (UTC) Commiserations from me too, and congratulations on doing as well as you did. Carcharoth 00:02, 17 July 2007 (UTC) Bad luck - you had my vote - perhaps better luck next time! Martin Hinks 13:56, 17 July 2007 (UTC) Thanks for running, for my own reasons, you were my top candidate. --BrokenSphere 15:38, 17 July 2007 (UTC) Thank you everyone for the messages of support, it's a pleasure to receive them. Cheers. --kingboyk 15:41, 17 July 2007 (UTC) I echo the sentiments above (voted for ya too), but at least Wikipedia won't lose any of your article writing time to Board stuff (looking on the bright side and all that :-) ). Wickethewok 16:56, 17 July 2007 (UTC) Upon consideration, I believe that it is the people who could have voted for you, but didn't, that should be apologising. Next time (there will be a next time, huh?) there will not be the learning curve getting in the way of getting your message across. LessHeard vanU 20:18, 17 July 2007 (UTC) I feel a bit of a twat - not for the first time in my life, to be truthful - but I did not realise you were standing. I do tend to ignore the higher Wiki concerns, being a common peasant of course. You did well, and contact me next time (there will be a next time) and this ancient fool will sign up to your cause. Hard luck, my dear old fruit. Best wishes, Derek R Bullamore 22:02, 17 July 2007 (UTC) Since I failed to be elected by substantially more than one vote I shall let you off this time Derek me old mate :) Thanks for the kind words. --kingboyk 22:04, 17 July 2007 (UTC) Talk:One armed man I removed the WikiProject Music stub on this since it has been turned into a redirect. -WarthogDemon 20:58, 18 July 2007 (UTC) That's fine. I've deleted it. Cheers. --kingboyk 21:01, 18 July 2007 (UTC) Biography template About the KLF, see my talk page. The note here is to ask if you've had time to look in at Template talk:WPBiography yet? Carcharoth 17:02, 19 July 2007 (UTC) Yes, but evidently I missed something?? --kingboyk 17:04, 19 July 2007 (UTC) The latest thread sitting there all alone? :-) Oh, and WT:WPBIO as well. Carcharoth 17:47, 19 July 2007 (UTC) Answered at template talk, and archived old threads. I'm guessing that your long post at WPBIO is connected to the request for new categories, and that they're needed to work with a bot? Anyway, I've asked for some elaboration on why the cats might be needed. Does Jreferee know how to edit our template? I'm hoping that other WPBio admins will come along (i.e. people who know the project and know the template), because I'm working on AWB at the moment and it's already to the exclusion/detriment of personal stuff I should be doing... --kingboyk 18:33, 19 July 2007 (UTC) Oh, if you are busy, don't worry. It's really not a problem. There is no deadline on Wikipedia. :-) Carcharoth 21:35, 19 July 2007 (UTC) I know that, but I don't like to let the side down :) That said, I'm probably being more useful working on AWB than I would be on templates, given that the latter is a (little) easier than the former :) --kingboyk 21:38, 19 July 2007 (UTC) Re: User:Jogers/List7 Note that some of the red links are already removed from the list and that many images were deleted before the list was even created. I'm doing my best to add rationales to album covers (especially at User:Jogers/List6) and there are few editors who offer they assistance but it's still too few of us. If you could help it would be just great. Jogers (talk) 23:30, 19 July 2007 (UTC) I'm not interested in adding the rationales, but if you need admin assistance undeleting I'll help with a few for sure. --kingboyk 23:32, 19 July 2007 (UTC) Thanks for your offer but I'm not sure if it's worthwhile. Dozens of images are deleted on a daily basis anyway and what you undelete somebody else may delete again few minutes later. On the other hand if you could add rationales to undeleted images straight away that would be extremely useful. Jogers (talk) 08:50, 20 July 2007 (UTC) Thing is, anybody can add rationales, only a subset of users can undelete stuff :) If it's just adding rationales that needs to be done, alas I have more important things to do (requests from WPBio for template work, AWB development, etc). I hope you can see that I'm just prioritising my time here. Cheers. --kingboyk 11:48, 20 July 2007 (UTC) Yes, absolutely. I'll let you know if I have any specific request for undeletion. In the meantime, there is plenty to do with the images that are not deleted yet. It's a shame that so many valid images had to go though. Regards, Jogers (talk) 12:08, 20 July 2007 (UTC) Fantastic, thanks. --kingboyk 12:16, 20 July 2007 (UTC) Speedy deletion of templates under CSD G6 Hello. I noticed that you've been deleting some templates on WP:TfD under the speedy deletion criteria G6 - housekeeping. This struck me as a bit odd - G6 is only supposed to be for "Non-controversial maintenance tasks", which I didn't think included unused templates. I've started a thread about this at Wikipedia talk:Criteria for speedy deletion#Speedy deletion of unused templates?, which you may want to take a look at and/or comment on. (Note that you're not the only person I've seen using G6 like that, just the most recent). Thanks. Mike Peel 12:14, 20 July 2007 (UTC) Thanks for the message. I would say it doesn't matter what criteria I use. If I think deleting something will help Wikipedia, I delete it. Do you disagree with the deletion in question or is it the principle that concerns you? --kingboyk 12:16, 20 July 2007 (UTC) It's the principle, rather than the specific template. I'm new to being an admin here, so I'm trying to figure out exactly what I can do and what I shouldn't be doing; this came under a gray area, so I was trying to clarify the issue. Thanks. Mike Peel 16:04, 20 July 2007 (UTC) Ah I see. Always best to follow the instructions when new I think; you'll soon learn which corners can be cut and be able to identify situations where process is less important than results (quite often, actually :)). Cheers. --kingboyk 16:13, 20 July 2007 (UTC) KLF vs Cellar door I wonder if it will be possible to get Cellar door to featured standard in time for April net year? Want to bet a million quid? :-) Carcharoth 15:16, 20 July 2007 (UTC) I think I have something of a head start if I'm brutally honest ;) --kingboyk 15:45, 20 July 2007 (UTC) Image resizing Hey, happy to do it. I'm just glad to have someone actually happy to have their image reduced to a fair use-compatible size.  :-D --fuzzy510 23:42, 24 July 2007 (UTC) Lukasz Dumanski You must be doing recent changes patrol... I'd barely written anything on this article when I noticed that it already had a discussion page ;-) Balloonman 03:40, 25 July 2007 (UTC) Mm... Nope, the tagging is old (2006). It would seem that an article previously lived there but got deleted (Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lukasz Dumanski). --kingboyk 14:45, 25 July 2007 (UTC) Ah... ok... different Lukasz I'd guess as this one JUST became notable in the past month or so...Balloonman 15:50, 25 July 2007 (UTC) Same guy, but looks like he hadn't done much then (and the article was awful). --kingboyk 15:51, 25 July 2007 (UTC) Probably about his Magic the Gathering days? Before he won a WSOP bracelet?Balloonman 15:52, 25 July 2007 (UTC) I restored it, so you can see for yourself in the article history :) --kingboyk 16:00, 25 July 2007 (UTC) You're right that was pretty bad... but at least one page gave me his DOB which is better than an age ;-)Balloonman 16:04, 25 July 2007 (UTC) AWB and Kingbotk Plugin Thread moved to User_talk:Kingbotk/Plugin#AWB_and_Kingbotk_Plugin. --kingboyk 16:04, 25 July 2007 (UTC) MfD nomination of Wikipedia:WikiProject The KLF I've nominated Wikipedia:WikiProject The KLF, a page you created, for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:WikiProject The KLF and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of Wikipedia:WikiProject The KLF during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. SLSB talk ER 01:23, 26 July 2007 (UTC) Are you f*cking joking me or what?! --kingboyk 12:04, 26 July 2007 (UTC) SLSB is a very new user (17 July 2007), and has nominated lots of inactive (and some active) WikiProjects for deletion. Have a look at the current WP:MfD page. He used to be Flubber5, as indicated here, but as far as I can tell, he requested a rename after only a few days of editing. Carcharoth 20:43, 26 July 2007 (UTC) OK, thanks. I thought it was just an overenthusiastic nomination, but if there's a lot of inappropriate nominations going on I might need to have a word :) The thing with WP:KLF is that I tagged it as inactive, but as you can see I'm still here, and I still watch and edit those articles. What isn't happening right now is the creation of new Featured content, because my partner in crime User:Vinoir is awol. The project is where we store our worklists and other resource material, and should he ever come back, or some other folks take over, that information and venue would be vital for getting the work done. I couldn't for the life of me consider why anybody would want to delete such a thing, hence the somewhat heated reaction :) --kingboyk 21:34, 26 July 2007 (UTC) PS, I don't know if you noticed or not but I've tagged a lot of the 21st century deaths category. Will get the rest done parallel to getting AWB v4 out. I totally disagree with deletion of anything that has a worthwhile history in Wikipedia namespace. But you might have realised that already. I hadn't noticed the 21st century death tagging, but the assessment drive people did - their figure of unassessed articles jumped by 6000 between 16 and 19 July! :-) In fact, they started with a backlog of 113,385 articles, and as of the time of writing have assessed 65,996 articles, so the backlog should be down to 47,389, but is only 75,495, so someone (I wonder who!) has tagged 28,106 extra articles! Impressive work from you and Reedyboy. Carcharoth 22:01, 26 July 2007 (UTC) Thanks. I've closed a couple of the other MFDs, and advocated deletion in a few where the projects never got started. Seems we have a bit of a hothead admin-wannabe on the loose there, but we get a lot of those and he's only trying to help :) If the advice he has been given on MFD doesn't get through please let me know and I'll leave him a message. For now I'm assuming good faith and assuming he'll read the MFDs which have been closed, and modify his future actions accordingly. --kingboyk 22:06, 26 July 2007 (UTC) Re: Ascot Sound Studios I completely disagree with your merger, and see no purpose for it; furthermore, the merger is something of a square peg in a round hole (or vice versa). This was/is a recording studio, not a residence, and you could at least have asked for discussion before making such a move. Would you merge an article about Gold Star Studios with an article about shopping centers (since one stands on Gold Star's former site), or The Hit Factory with one about condominiums (since that is what that site is now)? I appreciate your bon mots on earlier occasions, but I do not agree with all your actions. Zephyrad 15:53, 26 July 2007 (UTC) I disagree. It was a home studio at Lennon's residence. It's barely worthy of an article at all in my opinion. Of course, you are free to revert my changes if they don't meet with your approval. I don't understand the second paragraph nor the relevance of it. I took an editorial decision, and I wouldn't expect everybody to agree with every such decision I make nor I would consider such edits to decide whether somebody likes me or not! It's an edit to a low grade Wikipedia article, I haven't run off with your sister or anything serious like that! --kingboyk 15:58, 26 July 2007 (UTC) Deleting redirects after a move I noticed you deleted the redirect you left behind after userfying one of those WikiProjects, but noticed that this left quite a lot of redlinks. See Special:Whatlinkshere/Wikipedia:WikiProject Messageboxes. What do you want to do with those? Update them to tell people it has been userfied, or leave them to look at the deletion log? Carcharoth 00:43, 27 July 2007 (UTC) Nothing. They're links from user space (to a dead project no less) and not important. As you'll see from my contribs, I took care of all incoming links from other places :) In general terms, what an admin does with incoming links depends on the nature of the deletion and the nature of the admin. --kingboyk 11:52, 27 July 2007 (UTC) I also closed the WikiProjects "Hats" debate, or rather made it moot by carrying out the archive after someone showed some interest. And I notified the chemistry WikiProject about the isotopes one, which is the only other one I've been bothered to try and re-invigorate or get some closure on. I'm also waiting to see if anyone noticed that I carried out a non-admin closure... First time I've done that. I know its OK to do that (especially in a case like this), but still, being the first time and everything! Getting the hang of step-by-step instructions and leaving the oldmfd tag, hasn't exactly got me enthusing about adminship, but it does help remove some of the mystique (in reality, for proper deletion debates, if I ever decided I wanted to do this admin thing for real (and passed) I realise I'd only be able to close debates that I hadn't participated in - that is something I'm not entirely sure I'd be able to do - step back and be objective rather than wade in and give my version of "the answer"). Hmm. Something for me to think about, anyway. Oh, I did enjoy seeing your abrupt close of the WP:KLF MfD! Carcharoth 00:59, 27 July 2007 (UTC) Righto, all good. --kingboyk 11:52, 27 July 2007 (UTC) And technically Wikipedia:Biography Collaboration of the Week is not fully integrated into the WikiProject. Did it come before or after it? Should it be moved to a subpage of the WikiProject, or left in its lonesome with its own page? It has quite a few subpages, so moving it might be more hassle than it is worth. It also has a lot of pages linking to it, though I suspect that might be the newsletter. I haven't had a chance to have a close look - was it a successful project when it was running? Carcharoth 01:12, 27 July 2007 (UTC) No idea. I can't ever remember it running. I would think moving it into the WikiProject's area would be best if you have the time... Hmm... it's only 4 pages plus a redirect isn't it? I'll do it then... --kingboyk 11:52, 27 July 2007 (UTC) Done, took ages... but is now nicely archived and ready to reopen at a moment's notice. --kingboyk 13:50, 27 July 2007 (UTC) Application for NPWatcher Dear Kingboy (k), If you wouldn't mind, would you consider reviewing my application to use NPWatcher at User:Martinp23/NPWatcher/Checkpage (since Martinp23 appears to be on a semi-hiatus)? In any event, thanks for your time! --Evil1987 15:55, 27 July 2007 (UTC) Certainly. You seem to meet the criteria, so I've added you. I'll let Martin know too. Cheers. --kingboyk 16:01, 27 July 2007 (UTC) Thank you for the speedy approval! I appreciate it. Best--Evil1987 16:02, 27 July 2007 (UTC) Surprise! John Major has visited you! John "somehow" promotes WikiLove and wants you to be happy today, and hopefully he has managed to make your day better. Spread the WikiLove by giving something friendly to someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Come on now, go and make someone happy today, or John will hug you till you choke, dear Steve! (ewww!) :) Happy editing! - Phaedriel - 12:34, 28 July 2007 (UTC) You lucky blighter. I only got Roy Hattersley. Deiz talk 12:44, 28 July 2007 (UTC) Heh, right. Thanks I guess :) --kingboyk 15:00, 28 July 2007 (UTC) drv An editor has asked for a deletion review of Soul City FM. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article or speedy-deleted it, you might want to participate in the deletion review. --W.marsh 14:58, 28 July 2007 (UTC) Thanks for letting me know. I don't believe it asserted notability nor that community radio stations are notable in general. I welcome the Wikipedia community reviewing the deletion and don't feel I have anything to add. Either folks agree with the deletion or they don't, either is fine. Cheers. --kingboyk 15:03, 28 July 2007 (UTC) Okay, I just like to make sure everyone gets notified... a bit of a pet peeve of mine is the thought of admins not knowing about a review of their actions. Not everybody watches DRV :-) --W.marsh 15:14, 28 July 2007 (UTC) Absolutely! Totally agree with you and thank you very much for notifying me. --kingboyk 15:17, 28 July 2007 (UTC) Wikiproject Messageboxes I did notice -- thank you. -- Renesis (talk) 16:36, 28 July 2007 (UTC) Wondering What was behind this post on Lucifer's talk: "hope we don't ever have to leave, but if it comes to it I'm not adverse to trying to take the popular-music community to a new site." Not accusing, just curious. Slainte. Ceoil 00:31, 29 July 2007 (UTC) Fair use of album covers, current image deletion campaign. The general contempt held by high-brow editors for popular culture doesn't help either :) --kingboyk 11:40, 29 July 2007 (UTC) They're not high-brow editors, they are bots and janitors. Close the hatches and weather the storm ;) Ceoil 00:42, 30 July 2007 (UTC) Jones page Thanks for your previous input on Alan Jones (radio broadcaster). If you're still following the page, you'll be aware that anon editor/s persist in making questionable edits to the page, all AFAICT with the intent of magnifying Jones' conviction. Although their tone in summaries and talk page comments is polite enough, I don't see any real willingness to observe NPOV - the general tone of the comment is to deflect NPOV issues rather than address them - and it's hurting the entry. I'm not willing to keep on reverting indefinitely, both for the sake of 3RR and for my blood pressure; any thoughts on how this might best be handled? The most frustrating part of this is that I don't even like Jones; I think some of the other things he's done are far worse than the one he got convicted for, but turning the article into a blatant hatchet job is far more damaging to WP than to Jones. --Calair 02:36, 29 July 2007 (UTC) It looks like you're onto it, and I've posted another warning. If things don't improve and you feel the article needs to be protected or somebody needs to be blocked if they keep contravening WP:BLP either ask me or post at Wikipedia:Requests for page protection/Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons/Noticeboard. --kingboyk 11:53, 29 July 2007 (UTC) The Beatles' critical acclaim I'm with you on this one. See my comments on the talk page. IMO, the most critically acclaimed line should have remained unchanged and the hidden text should be removed too (surely it would have been proper for the editor in question to discuss such things before amending them, rather than after amending them and all the reverts et cetera? Wouldn't have avoided this discussion, but would have avoided the article disruption). Liverpool Scouse 22:06, 30 July 2007 (UTC) Orphaned non-free image (Image:The_KLF_-_Waiting_For_The_Rights_Of_Mu.JPG) Thanks for uploading Image:The_KLF_-_Waiting_For_The_Rights_Of_Mu.JPG. The image description page currently specifies that the image is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, the image is currently orphaned, meaning that it is not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media). If you have uploaded other unlicensed media, please check whether they're used in any articles or not. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that any non-free images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. BigrTex 21:40, 1 August 2007 (UTC) Image:Klf-burn_the_bastards.jpg I have tagged Image:Klf-burn_the_bastards.jpg as {{orphaned fairuse}}. In order for the image to be kept at Wikipedia, it must be included in at least one article. If this image is being used as a link target instead of displayed inline, please add {{not orphan}} to the image description page to prevent it being accidentally marked as orphaned again. BigrTex 21:41, 1 August 2007 (UTC) Happy Birthday I believe im correct in saying Happy Birthday Steve!! Have a good one I would have said it on MSN, but this vista laptop no likey MSN Reedy Boy 09:26, 2 August 2007 (UTC) Paul is dead nominated at AfD Not by me. Nom for non notability (!) and lack of sources. We need WP:BEATLES members support in keeping it. Liverpool Scouse 19:35, 4 August 2007 (UTC) Image:WikiFunctions2.png listed for deletion An image or media file that you uploaded or altered, Image:WikiFunctions2.png, has been listed at Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion. Please see the discussion to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. OsamaK 11:48, 6 August 2007 (UTC) Wikipedia:WikiProject The Rolling Stones Care to join the WP for the Stones? Stan weller 10:10, 8 August 2007 (UTC) Happy Steves Day! Kingboyk has been identified as an Awesome Wikipedian, and therefore, I've officially declared today as Steve's day! For being such a beautiful person and great Wikipedian, enjoy being the Star of the day, dear Steve! Love, Phaedriel 10:45, 13 August 2007 (UTC) A record of your Day will always be kept here. Happy Day! KillerChihuahua?!? 10:53, 13 August 2007 (UTC) Hi! Do we have an admin who can stop User:24.161.43.168 from abusing the May Pang page? I was accused when this person was doing the actual vandalizing. P.S. Happy Steve's Day! Sixstring1965 20:09, 15 August 2007 (UTC) Thank you Sharon. You missed my birthday by a few days! Too bad you didn't message me on MSN about this, as I've only just discovered it. Sorry. Thanks again. --kingboyk (talk) 13:53, 6 December 2007 (UTC) KLF Communications Hi Steve, just thought you should look at the WP:GA/R page as the above article is up for review. LuciferMorgan 21:15, 20 August 2007 (UTC) Thanks for letting me know mate, sorry I didn't respond at the time. Process was strange but don't strongly disagree with outcome. --kingboyk (talk) 13:53, 6 December 2007 (UTC) Bot task for jazz articles For {{Jazz-music-project}}, it would be nice to be able to benefit from all the work that has been put into adding listas= values to WPBiography banners. Could your bot check if a talk page in Category:WikiProject Jazz articles has a WPBio tag with listas set to a value, and if so, copy |listas=value from the WPBio banner into the Jazz-music-project banner on the talk page (preferably without a newline before the pipe)?. Regards, BNutzer 21:57, 21 August 2007 (UTC) John Lennon as guru Hi, you make a lot of sense on the Beatles Talk pages. Perhaps straying into critical analysis isn't what Wikipedia is all about and the title of the webpage may distract you but if not, you may enjoy reading the first section of the following link: http://www.sexualfables.com/Kama-Sutra.php. Do you see anywhere it could be placed as an external link or in Further Reading, on the Beatles or Lennon pages perhaps? I don't want to simply post it... Martin Blythe 21:37, 24 August 2007 (UTC) Radio Blagon Hello, I've just seen this article has been tagged for lack of information about the importance of this radio in France. I put few more informations (see discussion), do you think now we can take off the tag? --Ajor 07:01, 25 August 2007 (UTC) User:Kingbotk/Plugin I don't know if this the the correct place to ask, so, sorry if it isn't. Would you, kind sir, be able to add support to the above for Australia project tagging with "music=yes"? —Moondyne 15:20, 28 August 2007 (UTC) This had been requested i think... Well, im pretty sure that i implemented this at the weekend as there was the request. Its not released as of yet though. Reedy Boy 15:30, 28 August 2007 (UTC) Thanks. Is there a centralized place to see these requests etc. ? —Moondyne —Preceding unsigned comment added by Moondyne (talk • contribs) 15:55, August 28, 2007 (UTC) User:Kingbotk/Plugin/User talk:Kingbotk/Plugin Reedy Boy 17:17, 28 August 2007 (UTC) Recreated page You popped Herrmann Brain Dominance Instrument off over CsD 11. I was wondering - has it changed substantially since recreation? Don't have access to the deleted version. Thanks, MrZaiustalk 08:14, 5 September 2007 (UTC) Blanking of userpage? I'm not sure if your blanking of your page is to be seen as a request for deletion or something else. Please elaborate. John Carter 21:43, 5 September 2007 (UTC) Also interested in this (→O - RLY?) 21:44, 5 September 2007 (UTC) I, too, was wondering (past). LessHeard vanU 21:49, 5 September 2007 (UTC) Wikipedia:Featured topic candidates/The KLF I know you're on a break, but thought you be interested to see that someone nominated The KLF as a featured topic. I don't know anything about Featured Topics myself really. Have a good one and hope you're back soon! Wickethewok 19:49, 10 September 2007 (UTC) Tagging of Kerry Katona Regarding the "tone" tag you added to Kerry Katona, please can you use the talk page to give some specific examples of non-encyclopaedic content. Viewfinder 02:38, 16 September 2007 (UTC) The moving of Keane (band) to Keane You had no right to move that page back - it has only recently been moved across after following the correct process, this is nothing short of vandalism and will be reported as such. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.167.213.128 (talk) 14:38, 16 September 2007 (UTC) Hows it vandalism? Pages should *ONLY* be disambiguated when articles with the same root name need to exist. Therefore, there was nothing on Keane, so there was no need to have it moved/disambiguated to Keane (band) Reedy Boy 15:24, 16 September 2007 (UTC) Fair use rationale for Image:Why_did_Ellipsis_publish_K_Foundation_Burn_A_Million_Quid.gif Thanks for uploading or contributing to Image:Why_did_Ellipsis_publish_K_Foundation_Burn_A_Million_Quid.gif. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in Wikipedia articles constitutes fair use. 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Member News Congratulations to the editors who worked on the newest featured biographies: Augustus; William Shakespeare; Adriaen van der Donck; Alfred Russel Wallace; Alison Krauss; Anne Frank; Anne of Denmark; Asser; Bart King; Bill O'Reilly; Bobby Robson; Bradley Joseph; CM Punk; Ceawlin of Wessex; Colley Cibber; Cædwalla of Wessex; Dominik Hašek; Elizabeth Needham; Frank Macfarlane Burnet; Georg Cantor; Gregory of Nazianzus; Gunnhild Mother of Kings; Gwen Stefani; Hannah Primrose, Countess of Rosebery; Harriet Arbuthnot; Harry S. Truman; Henry, Bishop of Uppsala; Héctor Lavoe; Ine of Wessex; Ion Heliade Rădulescu; Jack Sheppard; Jackie Chan; Jay Chou; John Martin Scripps; John Mayer; Joseph Francis Shea; Joshua A. Norton; Kate Bush; Kazi Nazrul Islam; Kevin Pietersen; Martin Brodeur; Mary Martha Sherwood; Mary of Teck; Maximus the Confessor; Miranda Otto; Muhammad Ali Jinnah; P. K. van der Byl; Penda of Mercia; Pham Ngoc Thao; Rabindranath Tagore; Ramón Emeterio Betances; Red Barn Murder; Richard Hakluyt; Richard Hawes; Robert Garran; Roman Vishniac; Ronald Niel Stuart; Ronald Reagan; Roy Welensky; Rudolph Cartier; Samuel Adams; Samuel Beckett; Sarah Churchill, Duchess of Marlborough; Sarah Trimmer; Sargon of Akkad; Shen Kuo; Sophie Blanchard; Stereolab; Sydney Newman; Sylvanus Morley; Tim Duncan; Timeline of Mary Wollstonecraft; Uncle Tupelo; Waisale Serevi; Wallis, Duchess of Windsor; Walter Model; William Bruce; William Goebel; Yagan; Zhou Tong; Æthelbald of Mercia; Æthelbald of Mercia New Members Congratulations to our 225 new members From the Editors The newsletter is back! Many things have gone on during the past few months, but many things have not. While the assessment drive helped revitalize the assessment department of the project, many other departments have received no attention. Most notably: peer review and our "workgroups". A day long IRC meeting has been planned for October 13th, with the major focus being which areas of the project are "dead", what should our goals be as a project, and how to "revive" the dead areas of our project. Contribute to the discussion on the the new channel (see below) We decided to deliver this newsletter to all project members this month but only those with their names down here will get it delivered in the future. This is your newsletter and you can be involved in the creation of the next issue. Any and all contributions are welcome. Simply let yourself be known to any of the undersigned or post news on the next issue's talk page New irc channel Lastly, a new WikiProject Biography channel has been set up on the freenode network: #wikipedia-en-bio Our thanks to Phoenix 15 for setting it up. Contributors to this Issue Psychless (talk · contribs) Phoenix 15 (talk · contribs) Complete To Do List Write an article Expand an article about: a person an actor an animator an artist a bishop a businessperson a diplomat an educator an engineer a lawyer a military person a musician a photographer a saint a politician a scientist a sportsperson a writer Improve an article by: adding references adding categories Review an article Romano Volta • Suzanne Carrell • Mullá Husayn • John Gilchrist (linguist) • Thomas Brattle • Answer requests for comments Work on the Portal Portal:Biography Assess an article Assessment requests Unassessed articles Assessment Progress Biography articles by quality and importance Quality Importance Core Other ??? Total FA 34 1,590 1,624 FL 192 192 A 1 104 105 GA 41 8,080 8,121 B 92 37,280 37,372 C 37 159,621 159,658 Start 3 735,571 735,574 Stub 1 1,031,878 1 1,031,880 List 7,480 7,480 Category 2 207,504 207,506 Disambig 8,072 8,072 File 29,526 29,526 Project 1 197 198 Redirect 3 41,955 41,958 Template 12,676 12,676 NA 238 238 Assessed 215 2,281,964 1 2,282,180 Unassessed 32,636 32,636 Total 215 2,314,600 1 2,314,816 WikiWork factors (?) ω = 10,636,269 Ω = 5.39 We couldn't do it without you! To receive this newsletter in the future, please list yourself in the appropriate section here. This newsletter was delivered by the automated R Delivery Bot 15:41, 7 October 2007 (UTC) . Singapore Airlines fleet This is to inform that the Singapore Airlines fleet article has been nominated for deletion by Russavia. Please refer to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Singapore Airlines fleet (2nd nomination) and weigh in your opinion if you wish. Thank you!--Huaiwei 06:56, 9 October 2007 (UTC) Valtio An editor has asked for a deletion review of Valtio. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article or speedy-deleted it, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Carlossuarez46 19:09, 15 October 2007 (UTC) Bot's work on talk page of Auberon Herbert Looks as if your bot deleted the contents of the talk page. Guessing that wasn't intentional. Since I am new, though, I will leave it to you to sort out.CsCran 00:48, 16 October 2007 (UTC) I apologize Between December 14, 2005 and June 7, 2007, I vandalized Wikipedia under my previous username (YechielMan) and under various IP addresses and alternate accounts. I recently reviewed the contribution logs of all the accounts and IP addresses that I can recall having used. My goal was to identify all of the intentionally harmful edits I caused, and to apologize to the individual users who reverted those edits, or warned me, or blocked me. Hence, I apologize to you and to all of the following users: Adam Bishop, Amarkov, Antandrus, AntiVandalBot, Bdj (Badlydrawnjeff), Conk 9, CanbekEsen, DLand, Downwards, Eagle 101, Ericbronder, Gogo Dodo, High on a tree, Hut 8.5, Interiot, Jayjg, Jrwallac, Kingboyk, Kuru, Noclip, Patrick Berry, PFHLai, PhantomS, Pollinator, Rachack, Ranma9617, Rx StrangeLove, SlimVirgin, Tfrogner, TommyBoy, Vary, Woohookitty, Zzuuzz, and some anonymous IPs. (I also reverted one edit myself after it went unnoticed for three weeks.) Thank you for maintaining the integrity of Wikipedia against everyone who has attacked it, including my old self. If you wish to respond, please do so at my talk page. Best regards, Shalom (Hello • Peace) 19:26, 16 October 2007 (UTC) Thank you. --kingboyk (talk) 13:54, 6 December 2007 (UTC) Newsletter for WikiProject Biography The Biography WikiProject Newsletter no. 6 - October 2007 Project News Just a reminder, there is a new irc channel for WikiProject Biography, #wikipedia-en-bio. The Collaboration department has been restarted. The department will provide help in improving biographicle articles. New Collaborations and requests will be publiished here in the future Article News Newest featured biographies: William Shakespeare John Mayer Collaboration: This months collaboration is Woody Allen. Current requests are: Benito Mussolini Member announcements From now on members of this project make announcements or voice their opinions on anything Members news Our new members: JPmaverick (talk · contribs) From the Editors As said before, the newsletter will publish new collaboration requests every month. If there are a large number of requests, only the most recent requests will be published. This newsletter will now be delivered on the 20th day of every month We're looking for new writers to help write this newsletter. All those who wish to help must do is add news to next months newsletter before release Contributors to this Issue Phoenix 15 (talk · contribs) Complete To Do List Write an article Expand an article about: a person an actor an animator an artist a bishop a businessperson a diplomat an educator an engineer a lawyer a military person a musician a photographer a saint a politician a scientist a sportsperson a writer Improve an article by: adding references adding categories Review an article Romano Volta • Suzanne Carrell • Mullá Husayn • John Gilchrist (linguist) • Thomas Brattle • Answer requests for comments Work on the Portal Portal:Biography Assess an article Assessment requests Unassessed articles Assessment Progress Biography articles by quality and importance Quality Importance Core Other ??? Total FA 34 1,590 1,624 FL 192 192 A 1 104 105 GA 41 8,080 8,121 B 92 37,280 37,372 C 37 159,621 159,658 Start 3 735,571 735,574 Stub 1 1,031,878 1 1,031,880 List 7,480 7,480 Category 2 207,504 207,506 Disambig 8,072 8,072 File 29,526 29,526 Project 1 197 198 Redirect 3 41,955 41,958 Template 12,676 12,676 NA 238 238 Assessed 215 2,281,964 1 2,282,180 Unassessed 32,636 32,636 Total 215 2,314,600 1 2,314,816 WikiWork factors (?) ω = 10,636,269 Ω = 5.39 To stop receiving this newsletter, or to receive it in a different format, please list yourself in the appropriate section here. Note: You have been delivered this newsletter because you are listed on the WikiProject Biography Spamlist. If you do not wish to receive this newsletter, remove your name. From the automated, Anibot 16:02, 20 October 2007 (UTC) Brabham Always open to constructive criticism - and am glad you seem to be taking a trawl through the Brabham article (Hurrah - someone's reading it!). You might consider whether edit summaries containing the word 'vile' are entirely appropriate, though. ;-) Cheers. 4u1e 10:20, 23 October 2007 (UTC) The significance of the Repco engines is that Repco had never bulit a complete racing engine before, they're the only F1 racing engines ever to come out of Australia, and they won 2 of 3 championships they entered. I think the precise wording came from me trying to preserve a sense of the team's Australian nature in its early years (despite formally being a British team). I agree that none of that was clear (and I don't think I've made much of it later in the article either), but if more clearly put, do you think that would be significant enough for the lead?) 4u1e 10:24, 23 October 2007 (UTC) In fact, if you want to make a list of stuff that needs fixing on the talk page, I'll be glad to go through it. But lay off the personal comments, please. 4u1e 10:27, 23 October 2007 (UTC) Re BT19 lead: yes, an improvement. Flows better. That was a last minute change to avoid use of the word/phrase 'one-off'. Have a look at the FAC page if you want to see an example of a very long and pointless debate over it! ;-) 4u1e 20:46, 23 October 2007 (UTC) Welcome back! Noticed your recent spurt of activity. I hope that you keep doint so, as it's always great having someone as well-informed and familiar with wikipedia as you are. And the Biography project really misses you. Trust me on that. John Carter 19:04, 26 October 2007 (UTC) Thanks. I wasn't totally away, just got a bit sick of "meta" stuff. Articles are what we are here for, after all :) --kingboyk (talk) 13:17, 6 December 2007 (UTC) Roman Catholic Bishops As a member of WikiProject Catholicism I wanted to inform you that some members of Wikipedia believe that most Roman Catholic Bishops do not merit an article on Wikipedia. Since I am unaware of a position on Wikipedia on this matter I decided to bring this to your attention. The three articles on bishops are up for AfD, they are: : John Joseph Nevins , René Henry Gracida , and Felipe de Jesus Estevez Callelinea 21:11, 26 October 2007 (UTC) Biography project reviews A question has recently been raised at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Biography#Department re-organization that the A-Class review and peer review departments are somewhat redundant. Personally, I'm sorry to say that I only have some acquaintance with the A-Class review, and actually haven't been involved with the peer review unit at all. If you would have any input on the discussion, given your greater knowledge and experience of the project, I for one would sincerely welcome seeing it. Thank you. John Carter 14:07, 1 November 2007 (UTC) The Quiz You might be interested in this --andreasegde 15:00, 1 November 2007 (UTC) Request comments If you are interested in advocating a change in the existing consensus for how to deal with articles about online gambling companies, please contribute to Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Poker#Tokwiro_Enterprises and offer your view. Thanks. 2005 00:11, 7 November 2007 (UTC) PLEASE contribute to the discussion. Repeatedly going against an existing consensus is rude, and will just be reverted. 2005 02:04, 7 November 2007 (UTC) The Spikes I noticed you deleted this article as an A7. I remember working on the article and noting that the group had charted in Ireland; there was a source cited for it. This would both make the group ineligible for A7 and valid under WP:MUSIC. May I please have the article restored? Chubbles (talk) 08:59, 17 November 2007 (UTC) Now listed at WP:DRV. Chubbles (talk) 22:00, 18 November 2007 (UTC) Principality of Sealand I got involved at Principality of Sealand offering a Third opinion. I agree with your assessment, but I'm also a bit concerned over the title of the article conferring a status which does not exist. In essence a POV pushing title. Looking at most other principalities, micro nations, micro states etc., few include the word Principality or other indicators of governmental structure in the article title. However, I could not find a clear guideline. I see this as an interesting story, but a magnet for POV and sensationalism. --Kevin Murray (talk) 19:44, 25 November 2007 (UTC) I tend to agree with you, but an army of "micronation" fans wouldn't. I have no wish to get involved with an argument with those folks again! If you wish to take some action or initiate some debate go for it, I'll be cheering you on... --kingboyk (talk) 14:34, 26 November 2007 (UTC) WikiProject Sealand As part of the solving of the Sealand NPOV dispute, Sealand could have its own WikiProject soon (see here. I agree with the above, the title does need to be changed, I think it should be changed to Sealand (HM Fort Roughs). The dispute can be archived and used as a guideline in the future for Sealand articles and WikiProject Sealand so that these "is it a microstate or a micronation?" disputes won't happen again. Onecanadasquarebishopsgate (talk) 20:18, 25 November 2007 (UTC) I don't think Sealand is important enough or broad enough of a topic to warrant a WikiProject. There's already a Micronations WikiProject, why don't you join them? The micronation/microstate argument might warrant a line or two in the article but I think most of it belongs on the talk page. Any further comments to Sealand's talk page please as I don't hang around user talk much any more. Cheers. --kingboyk (talk) 14:36, 26 November 2007 (UTC) Laibach Actually, the article was tagged for the micronations project because the group's "parent", Neue Slowenische Kunst, is regarded as a sort of micronation, and even mentioned on the Micronation page as "the nation of NSK". John Carter (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 17:53, 27 November 2007 (UTC) Yes, I see that now (from reading related articles). I think it's still too spurious though. You're not going to be maintaining that article, are you? Perhaps, if it's correct to do so, Laibach should be in the "Micronational leaders" category, and then the contextual link might be a little more obvious. By all means restore the template if you're going to maintain the article and/or are sure it's within scope; I assumed it was a mistake or the result of some over-zealous tagging. Continue to believe the latter but don't mind being overruled :) Cheers. --kingboyk (talk) 18:14, 27 November 2007 (UTC) Personally, I don't really maintain much anything, other than an almost constant caffiene buzz. It's included in the project's watchlist though, but I get the impression that nobody else watches that right now. If and when I ever finish current tasks (and, more importantly, if I haven't died before that happens), I expect to be working primarily on the most important articles, trying to bring them up to GA status, that sort of thing, so the answer is probably no. But User:Gene Poole, or maybe someone else, might restore it later. John Carter (talk) 18:19, 27 November 2007 (UTC)