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Scouting links

Please don't indiscriminately add external links to the Scouting articles. They are not appropriate to international articles such as Scouting. Most of the BSA articles already have a link to Scouting.org, usually in the infobox. Meritbadge.org is not relevant to Venturing, Sea Scouting or many other articles. The U.S. Scouting Service Project has an article, this it does not need an external link. Most of the articles have a link into an appropriate directory into the Open Directory Project. See WP:EL for more information. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 16:19, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

I added the reference to Scouting in the article Scouting in the United States because the Boy Scouts of America holds exclusive rights to the term "Scouting" in the United States. The 1916 Federal charter 36 USC § 21 et. seq. which gives the BSA "the exclusive right to use emblems, badges, descriptive or designating marks, and words and phrases [the BSA] adopts." The term "Scouting" was adopted by the BSA in 1911. Likewise, MeritBadge.org provides extensive materials for Varsity Scouts, Venturing, and Sea Scouting including rank requirements, award information, leader resources, merit badge requirements and workbooks, and much more. — Milominderbinder2 ^talk 18:31, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Let's look at the links you are adding:

• http://www.scouting.org - the BSA articles have, or should have, this link in the infobox; please look at the infobox and don't add duplicates to the external links
• http://www.usscouts.org - there is an article on the U.S. Scouting Service Project, so an external link is not appropriate; this will eventually appear in a BSA specific template
• http://meritbadge.org - this is probably deserving of an article; it is a wiki that runs the MediaWiki software, but it is not a "Wikipedia"
• http://www.scouting.org/Media/FactSheets/02-923.aspx - and similarity links that are already used as a reference; please look at the references and don't add duplicates to the external links
• Many articles have a link into the Open Directory Project; before adding further links, see if it is already listed there and consider that the link might be more appropriate at the ODP

Wikipedia is not a directory; we have to be very selective about the content of the external links; there are so many resources on the web that a list would be longer than many articles --—— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 13:25, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Please see the US House US Code Title 36 CHAPTER 309 - Boy Scouts of America. Per Section 30905, Exclusive right to emblems, badges, marks, and words: "The corporation (Boy Scouts of America) has the exclusive right to use emblems, badges, descriptive or designating marks, and words or phrases the corporation adopts." In addition, please see that the word "Scouting" in the United Stated is a registered trademark of the Boy Scouts of America. The article Scouting in the United States needs to note that this is a registered trademark for the exclusive use of the Boy Scouts of America. Here is the US Patent Office documentaiton: United States Trademark #73282546 SCOUTING, First Used: April 30, 1913— Milominderbinder2 ^talk 20:22, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

OK, I agree it should be mentioned. I have however moved it from the lead to a more appropriate place. Whatever the Patent Office says there are other groups in the US who are doing Scouting and are linked to international Scouting bodies. Scouting in the United States is an overview of all this activity. There was a clear agreement about 2 years ago to have such articles for all countries to explain the broad reach of Scouting. Also, of course, the BSA allows the Girl Scouts to use the term. That should be mentioned. The patent ruling could mean that the BSA can stop other organizations from using the term, but it can not stop them existing and they would still be doing Scouting so should be mentioned here. It is therefore not a key point. --Bduke (Discussion) 23:26, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

"Scouting" is the exclusive trademark of the Boy Scouts of America encompassing a family of trademarked youth programs including "Boy Scouts". "Girl Scouting" is the exclusive trademark of the Girl Scouts of the USA. Look at the article on Kleenex. It starts by saying Kimberly-Clark owns the trademark and notes that other facial tissues are made by other companies. By first noting that "Scouting" is a trademark, we avoid trademark dilution of the brand "Scouting".

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Hi, thanks for your edits. We have already a category Category:Intellectual property law. Category:Intellectual property redirects to it. I have added a redirect from Category:Intellectual Property (with a capital "P") to Category:Intellectual property law as well to avoid redundancies and to follow the same logic. --Edcolins (talk) 19:08, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

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