User talk:Jared Preston/Archive 2

Foreign character

Hi Jared Preston, I see you are deleting foreign character templates. (ç, ı in Çandarlı Family, ş in Ayaş, Mersin) Well, I admit that they are not awfully important. But still I'd like to know why the templates are deleted. Cheers. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 12:17, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

Template talk:Foreign character – please read the bottom of the page. The template has been/will be deleted. TfD here. Jared Preston (talk) 12:39, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

Categories

Hi, also a happy New Year to you. With over 8,800 players uncategorized, this is really a Herculean task you've taken up. I hope that I will remember to add the categories, but I'm afraid that my editing will be slow in the next time because my vacation is over )-: --Jaellee (talk) 21:41, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

Fussballdaten.de

Hi

I saw your comment on fussballdaten.de at the talkpage of WP Project Football. I have a FLC where a user questioned the reliability of fussballdaten.de. Would you care to comment at the FLC since it seems that you have some knowledge about the site? Thanks! --Reckless182 (talk) 19:50, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

 Done my best! Jared Preston (talk) 22:15, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

Thanks a lot for your input! --Reckless182 (talk) 22:28, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

Request for Comment on the Berlin page

Hi - since you edited the Berlin page within the last couple months, I'm writing to ask if you'd like to weigh in on a current content dispute that has resulted in a request for comment. The issue, simply, is whether the Berlin article should include an image of the "Buddy Bears" or not. Thanks for your time, Sindinero (talk) 16:29, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

RM: Zürich Hauptbahnhof → Zurich Central Station

• (Discuss) – Zürich Hauptbahnhof → Zurich Central Station Kauffner (talk) 05:19, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

Your recent edits

Hi Jared, thanks for your recent edits adding categories etc. to footballer articles, but there are just a few things to bear in mind. Firstly, you shoudn't add the place of birth inside the brackets alongside date of birth, as you have done here, per WP:OPENPARA. Secondly, please do not convert inline citations to external links, as you have done here - if anything you should be doing it the other way around! Thanks, GiantSnowman 11:07, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

I was just a bit uncomfortable with the fussballdaten.de statistics page being used as a direct citation as to its general specifics. As for the place of birth, I added it to the opening paragraph as it was the only paragraph. Of course it needn't be there if there was a body of text, but there isn't one yet. Congratulations, by the way, on your recent RfA!!!! Jared Preston (talk) 11:35, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

True, it's very tricky when dealing with such short articles, but I suppose the general stats page does confirm that X plays for Y as a Z, so it works in that respect. Oh, and thanks very much! GiantSnowman 11:37, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

Nomination of Dynami:t for deletion

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Miroslav Klose

Hi, as you can see I'm no good at spotting copyvios. The Klose image didn't look like one taken from the club's website (it was obviously shot at the match on Wednesday) so I thought that it was possible that it was a legal image. But the advice with the talk page on commons is a good idea, I will check that in future. --Jaellee (talk) 11:44, 4 March 2012 (UTC)

March 2012

Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute to Wikipedia, at least one of your recent edits, such as the one you made to Langenfeld, did not appear to be constructive and has been reverted or removed. Please use the sandbox for any test edits you would like to make, and read the welcome page to learn more about contributing constructively to this encyclopedia. Abhijay ^{What did I do this time?} 09:30, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

What? After having read MOS:DABENTRY and Wikipedia:Don't template the regulars, can you please tell me your reason for reverting? Jared Preston (talk) 09:40, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, mistake :( I'll be extra careful. I try to do the right thing at times, but there times where I fail just like everyone else, here i've failed right now. Sorry. Abhijay ^{What did I do this time?} 09:50, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

NB: I've undone your revert. Thanks for the apology. Jared Preston (talk) 09:54, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

Thanks

for cleaning up some of my creations, including {{Transfermarkt}}. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 17:49, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

User Page

Thanks Jared for cleaning up my user page. I don't think that I ever ran into that guy (at least not with that user name). --Jaellee (talk) 16:38, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

Sudbury United

Hi Jared. Thanks for flagging that up; with Sudbury United being a former name of what is now Sudbury Town it makes perfect sense to redirect the former to the latter. I've gone ahead and changed it back into a redirect. Cheers, Mattythewhite (talk) 19:03, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

Nice one, cheers mate. Jared Preston (talk) 19:17, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Willi Kraus

The DYK project (nominate) 16:03, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

Paul Put

Hi there - Transfermarkt is not considered a reliable source as the content is user generated. Do you have an alternative source? Thanks, GiantSnowman 08:31, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

Which part of my edit to your article do you want verified? Place of birth? See the offline source quoted on the French Wikipedia or the fact that he's from Antwerp here; date of birth per Eurosport here. Jared Preston (talk) 10:41, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

Perfect, thanks! GiantSnowman 10:57, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

Tallinn

Hi Jared, regarding free public transportation in Tallinn: see http://news.err.ee/society/e065014d-9d67-43a2-8f3a-f6cacb54cdae. There was a vote yesterday, this is the outcome. The only thing to make it more accurate is ´free rides on city-operated bus, trolley and tram lines to registered city residents as of 2013´. BTW, the issue is now also already mentioned in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_transport_in_Tallinn. HaPo 19:58, 26 March 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hanspostma (talk • contribs)

Re: {{Fb cl team 2pts}}

The only thing to replace it would be to create something similar to {{Fb cl2 team}}, only with two points for a win instead of the (now) regular three. Maybe name it something along the lines of {{Fb cl2 team 2pts}}.

As for the general substitution of the league and results tables in season articles, I'm still thinking about a solution on how to replace {{Fb r header}}, {{Fb r team}} and related stuff. While the non-usage of these templates would basically revert the results box to a basic wikitable, I am still reluctant to go that way because of two reasons – a likely increase of (tedious) endash-related clean up and, if the rows are indeed set up as single lines, a more complicated table structure.

In any case, if the team templates are really to be substituted one day, it should be done by a bot, because we don't want to go through a few thousand articles/league table templates by hand. --Soccer-holic^{I hear voices in my head...} 07:53, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

Indian Football Templates

Hey mate, you recently put my two templates (Techno Aryan and Tolly) on deletion but the thing is if you delete them then on the league table that they are on it would say Fb team:Techno Aryan instead of Techno Aryan. If you can fix that for me so that it does not appear like that then I would be open to deleting the templates. Cheers. --Arsenalkid700 (talk) 22:41, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

For the last few days, Koppapa (talk · contribs) and I have only been deleting orphaned templates. You could certainly help us by orpahning more, simply by replacing {{fb cl team}} with {{fb cl2 team}} and by linking the team name in the league table with square brackets [[]]. Example here For more information, see the discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Football#.22fb.22 template system. Thanks for your interest. Jared Preston (talk) 22:55, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

Nomination of TACA Flight 510 for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article TACA Flight 510 is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/TACA Flight 510 until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on good quality evidence, and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article. ...William 00:30, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

New Page Patrol

Hi Jared,

I saw that you are patrolling new pages and was wondering if you could patrol from the back, it's a lot more efficient.

Thanks, Athleek123 (talk) 04:43, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

I haven't done much NPP recently; if you're looking at my patrol log, you'll see that most of the pages are articles I've recently created, which are marked automatically. Jared Preston (talk) 05:29, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons

Invitation to diacritics guideline discussion at WT:BLP

Hi, you were one of 100+ Users who has commented on a living person Requested Move featuring diacritics (e.g. the é in Beyoncé) in the last 30 days. Following closure of Talk:Stephane Huet RM, a tightening of BLP guidelines is proposed. Your contribution is invited to WT:BLP to discuss drafting a proposal for tightening BLP accuracy guidelines for names. In ictu oculi (talk) 00:04, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

Feel free to duplicate this invite on the pages of others who have commented, for or against. In ictu oculi (talk) 00:08, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

Sparta Prague Open - Qualifying

Qualifying is not needed for ITF events please. Keroks (talk) 06:38, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

Not needed = not required? Maybe so, but there was also no need to delete it. It is not a detriment either to you or to the article. Jared Preston (talk) 16:48, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

Donna Vekić

Please review Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Donna Vekić. If you want to re-create the article, you should explain better what changed at the article talk page or at deletion review. --Joy [shallot] (talk) 12:47, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

Yes, please make that reference explicit (note that she actually did play in the Fed Cup) and inline. --Joy [shallot] (talk) 14:50, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

Commons

Hi, Jared Preston. I have left you a message on my commons talk page. --Dimant 13:54, 16 June 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.133.141.79 (talk)

Replied; check your mails! Jared Preston (talk) 14:16, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

V. J. Havel

I've undeleted V. J. Havel for the time being. The deletion is being questioned at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Mathematics. If you still think it should be deleted could you mention that at that page and maybe start an AfD? Michael Hardy (talk) 17:17, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

PB/SB

Hi Jared. Thanks for the compliment! Typically I leave the personal/season's best marks off the main page and leave that kind of information to the athlete biography and event sub-articles. World/Olympic/National records are of much greater importance and additional notations distract from this in my opinion. From a main page perspective, PBs and SBs might become irrelevant in the following weeks, thus their inclusion can't really be deemed in the same light and SBs have the added issue of a need to monitor them in case an athlete runs better. I'm not a note nazi though - I typically leave things as they are as long as they are correct. SFB 20:24, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

Well, those notes would stand anyway because we don't delete previous WR icons just because a record progresses; but otherwise I'm fine with that, and you're right too – as long as they're in the event sub-articles, that's OK. Keep up the good work! Jared Preston (talk) 21:09, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

November 17

You summarized this edit of November 17 as "Reverted good faith edits by Anomalocaris (talk): Please do not substitute the spelled out dashes; this is against WP:DOY consensus. (TW)". Please note:

1. WP:DOY does not state any such consensus, at least that I could find. If there is such a written consensus, please let me know where to find it.
2. When you disagree with only one aspect of a complex edit, it is polite to undo the aspect you disagree with and leave the rest. There were more than a dozen other carefully-made changes with over an hour of time invested, and my edit description, "spaced initials; dashes; commas; sp. slight; capitalization; wikilinks; avoid redirects", should have indicated that this was a complex edit. —Anomalocaris (talk) 19:26, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

I'm sorry you spent so much time for such an edit; I'd have wrongly assumed you were using WP:AWB. Each day of the year has this massive edit notice at the top of the page:

{{DOY page notice}}

Please take note of the third bulletpoint. On 18 May you made an edit to the "February 25" article despite the page notice having been installed two months previously and I later had to manually change the dashes back to the accepted HTML format. A lot of editors mistake the ndash for a hyphen and upon adding new entries to the lists make exactly this mistake; this is why we use the HTML code. However, I do appreciate the changes you made. I think now in the end, all is well. Jared Preston (talk) 20:48, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

Von Portugal translation

Hello. I was on Wikipedia:Translators available and notice that you were on the list for German to English translators and wondered if you could translate and add materials from de:Manuel von Portugal and de:Emilia von Oranien-Nassau to their English articles and create articles for their two children de:Manuel António von Portugal and de:Mauritia Eleonora von Portugal and their spouse de:Johanna von Hanau-Münzenberg and de:Georg Friedrich (Nassau-Siegen). If you can't I will understand. Thank you!--The Emperor's New Spy (talk) 23:22, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

User:117.198.20.137

I noticed that you have previously reverted multiple acts of vandalism to the November 9 article by User:117.198.20.137, and I wanted to let you that I have just reverted another act of vandalism to the November 9 article by that IP address, and issued a Level 1 warning since no previous warning had been issued. If you feel that a Level 1 warning is not sufficient, please feel free to upgrade the warning especially if you catch this IP address committing another act of vandalism. --TommyBoy (talk) 16:10, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

DMY to MDY

Is there a place where we could standarize these intros to MDY form? GoodDay (talk) 19:13, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

No. There are reasons why some articles use DMY dates. Read WP:DATES and in particular WP:STRONGNAT. These also shouldn't have an extra comma thrown in, whether you like it or not. Jared Preston (talk) 19:50, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

I've opened up a discussion at that MoS page, to see if we might standardize intros. GoodDay (talk) 20:40, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

A) That's not going to happen; and B) I think you've completely misunderstood what I meant with the commas. As I pointed out in the link posted on your talk page, adding a comma after the whole date, but before the place of birth, is not correct. I wasn't talking about the comma between the date and the year in MDY format. This is all on the MOS page anyway... Jared Preston (talk) 07:12, 29 December 2012 (UTC)

Cool. GoodDay (talk) 15:37, 29 December 2012 (UTC)

Howdy, I need your advice at Anne Davidson article, concerning the intro, concerning commas. GoodDay (talk) 16:38, 11 January 2013 (UTC)

File:Bitter_oranges.jpg.

Hi Jared Preston,

Could you tell me whether the following statement corresponds to your expectations for a publication in my next book in French-speaking countries, or if it lacks an element declaration :

« Photo by Jared Preston, Bitter oranges.jpg. Source http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Bitter_oranges.jpg. Reproduced under license cc-by-sa-3.0 Unported - http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/deed.en ».

I thank you in advance, Arevalb — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arevalb (talk • contribs) 11:37, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

Hello Arevalb! You are more than welcome to use any credit you like as long as you add my name. It would be very nice if you could inform me where I can buy the book after it has been published. Good luck! Jared Preston (talk) 12:20, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

Hi Jared Preston,

I thank you very much indeeed for your prompt reply.

I will be pleased to inform you where you can buy the book after it has been published. Best regards. Arevalb. 86.203.238.42 (talk) 09:31, 5 February 2013 (UTC)

re: Mirjana Lučić

Hi Jared Preston! I have always thought when you get married it is hyphened. For example Zahlavova-Strycova and Gallovits-Hall, but all of the Spanish players on Wikipedia have no hyphen. I'm not sure whether Mirjana's page will still stay as Mirjana Lucic though. Keroks (talk)

Well that is because Spanish people from birth on generally have two "surnames". I would suggest moving Mirjana Lučić to the hyphenated Mirjana Lučić-Baroni, as you say, since it is a double-barrelled married name. Going without a hyphen just seems to me to be some personal style. Unless you object, I will move the article title on the grounds that not only the WTA and ITF use the hyphen, australianopen.com do so too, as well as Croatian news articles (here Slobodna Dalmacija, for example). Jared Preston (talk) 07:03, 8 February 2013 (UTC)

Go ahead and move it Keroks (talk) 07:11, 8 February 2013 (UTC)

 Done. Jared Preston (talk) 08:07, 8 February 2013 (UTC)

Names

Hi! I've recently changed Mariana Duque to Mariana Duque Mariño because of the Spanish name. I recently stumbled upon a name that is Giulia Gatto-Monticone. I am not sure whether she is married or has 2 surnames. Your thoughts? Keroks (talk) 01:54, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

Since Gatto-Monticone is Italian, I would leave it as it is. There's nothing I can think of that would suggest her name should be written any other way, but Duque Mariño is fine. The only thing I would suggest there is a WP:HISTMERGE. Jared Preston (talk) 04:32, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

Hi! I've stumbled on something lately. I'm very confused about the situation with names that have like 'van xxx' or 'de xxx' or 'di xxx'. There is Alison Van Uytvanck which was previously written as Alison van Uytvanck but changed for some reason? I'm unsure of what to do with the likes of Dutch players like Angelique van der Meet, Indy de Vroome and Federica di Sarra. There is Daniela Di Toro, i'm just confused with this whole situation. There are ATP players that are written like de Bakker, van der Merwe. I'm just confused of what to do? Keroks (talk) 10:54, 22 March 2013 (UTC)

Dutch people always write these surnames in lower case, like van der Meet and de Vroome. Belgians always write theirs in upper case, like Van Uytvanck. Obviously it depends on punctuation. If I start a sentence by writing "De Vroome is..." then the D would also be capitalised. Federica di Sarra is Italian, and as far as I'm aware, most Italians, like the Dutch, also write "di" in lower case. I had never heard of Daniela Di Toro before, but she's Australian. Di Toro is not a typical Australian name – that just appears to be style, to write "Di" in upper case. Thiemo de Bakker is Dutch, so again, that would explain the lower case. I hope that helps! Jared Preston (talk) 12:48, 22 March 2013 (UTC)

Css errors

Is it now the new line and redirect that are off? That's what's just started for me. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 20:16, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

I'm afraid I can't help. I'm not tech-savvy enough, and I don't have Chrome either. Try VPT or Krinkle again. Jared Preston (talk) 20:49, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

Woops!

Good to know that I'm not the only one who sometimes has trouble to hit the right thing with the mouse pointer. (-: --Jaellee (talk) 22:59, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

A beer for you!

For the Danke!...and Marco Reus is playing for the BVB, and not this regional team from Munich which just won the Champions League...Cheers. Lectonar (talk) 19:52, 30 May 2013 (UTC)

You have a new message at Lectonar's talk page.

German translation

Hello. I was on Wikipedia:Translators available and notice that you were on the list for German to English translators and wondered if you could translate content from de:Ludwig Gaston von Sachsen-Coburg und Gotha to Prince Ludwig Gaston of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha?--The Emperor's New Spy (talk) 20:43, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

Thank you!

	Thank you!
	Thank you for all your hard work on various articles. I just updated the singles and doubles tables for "Stephanie Vogt". Could you please add her "Fed Cup participation" table, similar to "Kathinka von Deichmann"'s table? Thank you. Prosenjiit (talk) 21:52, 13 July 2013 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you

Okay, thank you. And, about the image, how should I go about uploading an image of her (like this one) without there being a copyright violation? As in, which credentials and others should I state on the upload form? I don't mean to violate Wikipedia rules, I would just like to display an image for this living person, as she is becoming a more significant figure in the tennis world. Thanks- Prosenjiit Prosenjiit (talk) 15:56, 14 July 2013 (UTC)

Whisperback

Hello. You have a new message at Prayerfortheworld's talk page. Message added 19:39, 25 July 2013 (UTC).

Bold text formatting

Due to this "formatting" [1] read MOS:TEXT and Help:Wiki markup#Text formatting especially please! NickSt (talk) 21:48, 30 July 2013 (UTC)

If it ain't broke, don't fix it. 99% of all tennis articles don't add the trailing markup, why do you want to make this one article stand out? If you had taken a minute to look at the page, you'd have seen it makes absolutely no difference; and when adding scores to dozens of tennis articles, it's a whole lot quicker too. So best greetings to Ukraine! Jared Preston (talk) 21:53, 30 July 2013 (UTC)

And, as a result of my explanation, this edit you just made was not necessary. Jared Preston (talk) 22:02, 30 July 2013 (UTC)

Some browsers (1–5%) can show wrong the articles with such incorrect wiki-markup. I don't see reasons why tennis only articles must be without trailing markup. I think all tennis articles must be with correct markup as others. Where I can start a discussion about this problem? NickSt (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 10:43, 31 July 2013‎ (UTC)

I don't know which browsers you may be referring to, but as a matter of fact, these are probably browsers which aren't supported by mediawiki in any case. There is a blacklist for unsupported browsers for reasons that are unknown to me – these could potentially cause problems viewing wiki-markup on any page. The fact is, due to line breaking and time-saving when inputting scores, it really is a whole lot easier to do it the "quick" way (certainly not by using WP:VE which many browsers don't support yet anyway), and it makes no difference to the saved page in most (up-to-date, supported) browsers. Which one do you use? I don't know what else to suggest, I'm not the only one employing this method and I doubt consensus will go your way... Jared Preston (talk) 12:41, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

I have posted my opinion on WT:TENNIS. NickSt (talk) 14:44, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

Minor help with German translation

Hey man I found you via Wikipedia:Translators available. If you have the time, could you take a look at Talk:Gudrun Krämer? I could use help interpreting the webpage for the subject at the university in which she teaches, just for some biographical info. MezzoMezzo (talk) 21:47, 3 August 2013 (UTC)

Tennis in Turkey

Hey, the ITF has now changed the tournament that was in Batman to Trabzon, so there are now two Trabzon Cup's and I'm unsure of what to do? Keroks (talk) 11:30, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

Yes, this is strange. I wonder what happened to the Batman tournament. They probably wouldn't have had the infrastructure to hold an event there anyway! If the Trabzon organisers don't come up with any new event name, then we can just have one article (2013 Trabzon Cup) for both events, naming the draws 1 and 2 if necessary. The Batman articles can simply be redirected to the main article ITF Women's Circuit until a point in time at which the event might actually take place. The draw articles I created could then be deleted if there isn't a tournament there later in the year. Jared Preston (talk) 05:59, 17 August 2013 (UTC)

Deletion review for Stefan Kutschke

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Stefan Kutschke. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. 79.216.34.185 (talk) 17:48, 17 August 2013 (UTC)

The Tennis Barnstar

Whenever I run into a page you created of a minor tennis player, it always seems to have the reason why the person is notable. I wish everyone did that. Fyunck(click) (talk) 06:03, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

	The Tennis Barnstar
	For continued excellence in maintaining the quality of tennis related articles or to those giving great assistance and time to WikiProject Tennis. Fyunck(click) (talk) 06:03, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

The "Zürich" Barnstar

		The Switzerland Barnstar of National Merit
		For your load of work related to the categories "Zürich/Zurich". PS: My brain had a black-out ;-) ... I've not noticed, still today, that the person who left me the CFD link and the "Zurich nominator" were the same person: you. Btw, good work. Of course I'll vote also at "Canton's category" CFD. --Dэя-Бøяg 15:37, 13 September 2013 (UTC)

Wta finals vs ITF finals

Why are WTA finals are listed with (5 titles, 3 runners-up), but ITF finals listed (5-3)? An anon says that is the type of formatting that's used stated in the guidelines of Tennis WikiProject. Of course I don't see it, but Fyunck didn't doesn't recall and thinks either way is fine. Just asking. Thanks! Raul17 (talk) 14:49, 26 September 2013 (UTC)

Whether it's a guideline or not, I don't think it should be used. As far as I'm concerned, there isn't consensus... If someone doesn't know what 5–3 means, then they probably wouldn't understand the tennis scores or statistics either. The very fact that the sections are entitled "finals" means that the rest is self-explanatory. "1 (1 title)" just seems stupid, just like "2 (1 title, 1 runner-up)". I don't think anyone has problems with 1+1=2. Even 8=3+5. The outcome column also lists whether or not a tournament was won, or if the player was a runner-up. So as far as I'm concerned, "(5–3)" is fine (it's not ambiguous)! Jared Preston (talk) 15:13, 26 September 2013 (UTC)

I couldn't understand why only WTA finals. If there's no trouble with the ITFs, what's the fuss with WTA! Thank you for help! Raul17 (talk) 18:58, 26 September 2013 (UTC)

125s capitalization

I see you moved the page from "WTA 125K Series" to "WTA 125K series", de-capitalizing the word "series." I believe this is incorrect as the term "WTA 125K Series" is the full name as per the WTA. Series is always capitalized and isn't just a tagged on term. It's also here. Just like we don't write it "US open" it should be the "WTA 125K Series" just as the WTA calls it... WTA 125s for short. Fyunck(click) (talk) 00:08, 30 September 2013 (UTC)

I see the problem in both ways. In the meantime, I have added the logo to the parent article. I'm not sure it's as straightforward as calling this series of events a proper name, like the US Open. It is a series of tournaments; hence the uncapitalised s – even in the logo (style or not)? Jared Preston (talk) 08:49, 30 September 2013 (UTC)

I hadn't noticed the logo didn't use a capital S. Ambiguity by the WTA so I'll leave it as is. Thanks for pointing that out. What's also funny is that on the 125s articles it says that "some media outlets" have misnamed it as a "WTA Challenger." That's not entirely true... the Official website of the 2013 OEC Taipei 125 calls it the 2013 OEC Taipei WTA Challenger. So not just media outlets, some official tournaments now. The actual name may do some morphing over the next couple of years since it's a new series of events by the WTA. Fyunck(click) (talk) 18:28, 30 September 2013 (UTC)

No, I wouldn't be surprised either. What with the G(g)rand S(s)lams (and that's a good question too, should this term always be written in caps or not?) offering ever more prize money, I can imagine that the WTA will offer bigger prize funds for their tournaments too. Come 2014 or 2015, it may well turn into a 150K series! What also caught my eye is the article on de.wiki, "de:WTA Challenger Series". Have you seen the logo there? Jared Preston (talk) 19:33, 30 September 2013 (UTC)

Very interesting. And right here the VP of the WTA is standing in front of that sign. Perhaps we should change the line from the 125 article? Fyunck(click) (talk) 20:18, 30 September 2013 (UTC)

At least to "also known as", maybe. Jared Preston (talk) 20:20, 30 September 2013 (UTC)

It looks like it's usually called the 125k series so I just changed it to "sometimes." "Also known as" might be better though. Either way. Fyunck(click) (talk) 20:24, 30 September 2013 (UTC)

continuous unsensless edits

Hi, i see that you made several edits as in Mandy Minella, Sabine Lisicki or Timea Babos pages that can be disruptives for the entire community. First of all, when you have a WTA or ATP finals the title is "WTA career finals" and NOT "WTA finals" or "WTA Career Finals". Secondly, year-end championships and masters finals are NOT major finals. Major finals are ONLY to be labeled as such for the 4 Majors (Australian,French,Wimbledon and US championships) to avoid confusion for any of our readers. We either omit it or use "significant" in place of "major" when referring to those lesser tournaments. Third but not the last, when there are a description like this: "Doubles: 3 (1-2)" the correct format is "Doubles: 3 (1 title, 2 runners-up)" as these guidelines says. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.65.93.251 (talk) 08:59, 6 October 2013 (UTC)

Hello Anon! How are you? I'm sorry, I don't know who you are without a username, but let me answer your points. First of all, I have been on Wikipedia for quite some time making edits to tennis articles, and you, without any prejudice, made your first edit 48 hours ago! Disruption? How does "WTA career finals" make any grammatical sense? Of course they are WTA finals of a player's career, it is, after all, a biography about the career of the player on which you are commenting. Point two, I have never made any edits to those extent – and I agree with you (in as so far as I understood what you have written) and point three: where do the guidelines actually state this? I think you are making this up! There is no project guideline for this, and if there were – it would be wrong. Take a look at the thread on this page from user:Raul17 from a fortnight ago. May I reiterate: nobody reading these biographies, who makes it as far to said statistics sections, is going to read WTA finals and then not know how to add a list of eight tournaments, each showing whether or not an event was won or the player was a losing finalist, together, see "(5–3)", and not know that five plus three equals eight. 5 titles is just a repetition of the following statistics to follow and superfluous. I hope I've been able to dissipate your worries. Also, as I see you are new to Wikipedia, welcome!; and for the future, please don't forget to sign your posts! Jared Preston (talk) 14:43, 6 October 2013 (UTC)

Durneydiaz

The articles are very poor, but do seem to be notable. I've tagged a few that aren't with PROD, and have left the user a note regarding repeated creation of non-notabl;e and/or poorly referenced articles. If he continues, we may have to seek a topic ban from creating new articles or something. GiantSnowman 10:33, 15 October 2013 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Nftu

Template:Nftu has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page.. QED237 (talk) 23:05, 28 December 2013 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

Sorry for the mess up at the tennis page. You where right the final is tommorow. I just saw the semifinals and being awake whole night I just confused two players. You where right. I apologys.So many simular names :)

Stepojevac (talk) 09:22, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

ITF Women's Circuit stats

Hey, is the statistics page gonna be left empty this whole year? :( Unfortunately I don't have the time to do them anymore (you saw how 2013 ended) so its either we have to do something about it, like get someone to do it or we have to get rid of it. Because right now its not looking so good being empty there..

Keroks (talk) 10:11, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

Where would those stats be? I notice Jared Preston mentioned at AFD of Izida Cup that it "is one of the second lowest-ranked tournaments on the women's professional circuit." What is source for that, and could such info be usefully added to List of ITF Women's Circuit events, making a table out of what is just a list of items now? I came from the AFD just now, am not familiar with sources in this area. --doncram 19:23, 3 October 2014 (UTC)

Question about notability of a tennis player

Hello. A few months ago I made an article about the Bulgarian tennis player Borislava Botusharova, but it got deleted, because the player didn't pass the notability guidelines for tennis players. This week she is in the national team for the 2014 Fed Cup Europe/Africa Zone matches, so I want to ask you a few questions. Will she be considered notable in case she plays in one of the matches this week, so if I made the article it won't get deleted again? And I also want to ask you if there's a way to bring back that deleted article, so I don't have to write it again? Kr1s71an (talk) 21:24, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

Yes, when Botusharova makes her debut for the Bulgaria Fed Cup team, then she is deemed notable by Wikipedia:WikiProject Tennis standards. If you don't want to write it again, there are a number of avenues you can go down. You can ask a sysop directly, you can ask on your talk page by using the {{admin help}} template, or you can follow the instructions at Wikipedia:Deletion review. Jared Preston (talk) 11:08, 5 February 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	For updating tennis players' rankings and for other work you've done related to tennis. AmaryllisGardener (talk) 22:36, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Infobox cigarette brand

Template:Infobox cigarette brand has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 23:38, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

Largest Companies in German cities

Can you please help me about the format? - I think it is a useful information for many cities and it is free to use, according to the new publicly available information on Busni.de Thanks! (Stribog1 (talk) 08:48, 28 February 2014 (UTC))

2014 ITF Men's Circuit

Can you help me complete these articles:

• 2014 ITF Men's Circuit (January–March)
• 2014 ITF Men's Circuit (April–June)
• 2014 ITF Men's Circuit (July–September)
• 2014 ITF Men's Circuit (October–December)

Thanks so much! Banhtrung1 13:15, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

You contributed very much at the 2014 ITF Women's Circuit. Can you also contribute at the 2014 ITF Men's Circuit? Banhtrung1 03:58, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

Will you complete this section? JackHoang (talk) 22:47, 19 June 2014 (UTC)

Jeff Schlupp

Hi, the reference you added for Jeff Schlupp not being capped by Germany under-19s doesn't work; do you have access to one that is live? Cheers, Mattythewhite (talk) 21:37, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

From another source, try this. Jared Preston (talk) 22:19, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

Unpleasant message

Your message here seems to be in violation of Assuming good faith policy. Do not call me, or my actions a pile of shit!--Mishae (talk) 19:50, 23 March 2014 (UTC)

It referred to WP:DTTR, the "regulars" trying to make this project more accessible. So much for assuming good faith... Jared Preston (talk) 22:30, 23 March 2014 (UTC)

Regulars like him, no, but me who archives and marks dead urls yes.--Mishae (talk) 14:16, 24 March 2014 (UTC)

Stanislava Komarova

Thanks for this: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Stanislava_Komarova&diff=602541938&oldid=602511416 . This happened by a failure in the sources. I found it odd that in 2 different sources had 2 different names. I would not have noticed it if not for your reversal. Janperson (talk) 17:55, 3 April 2014 (UTC)

Source?

Hi Jared Preston, what is your source for this spelling of the name of Marie-Gaianeh Mikaelian? This source and this one write "Gaianeh". Regards, Vinkje83 (talk) 16:59, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

Apart from the two which I added in that very edit (news.ch and Neue Zürcher Zeitung), look here (Blick), here (Bieler Tagblatt), here (swissinfo) and here (Radio Télévision Suisse). Seeing as she is Swiss, I'd assume Swiss sources are more likely to spell her name correctly (with diacritics etc.) than the BBC or WTA who usually don't bother. Jared Preston (talk) 21:45, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for your comprehensive and convincing answer. Greetings, Vinkje83 (talk) 22:06, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

Images levels correction

Hello Jared, It's very easy to correct the levels of an image with XnView. The feature is accessible under Image > Adjust > Normalize or you can just click on "Automatic levels" under the drop down menu on the toolbar item on the left of the red eye correction button. And if you don't want to install it, I just found out about the online version: http://www.xnview.com/en/demo.php. Best regards! The RedBurn (ϕ) 12:51, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the tip. Seems to be a decent tool! Jared Preston (talk) 14:01, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Polina Vinogradova

Hi there, I have examined the notability criteria for tennis players, under which you proposed the deletion of the page I created, Polina Vinogradova. Unfortunately, it seems to be out of date. Under criteria no. 5, it is declared that a player is notable if they "have won at least one title in any of the 2008–2012 ITF Women's $35,000–$100,000+ tournaments. From 1978–2007 the notability threshold shall be winning a $25,000 tournament based on the lowest payout for a men's challenger tournament in the same year." There is no existing criteria for players who have won ITF tournaments [b]after[/b] the year 2012. Polina has won several $25K tournaments so far, in addition to having reached the top 200 (and she will rise even higher after her recent participation in qualifying for the 2014 French Open); she recently participated in her first qualifying at a WTA event at Nürnberg and her ranking will enable her to continue to do so and improve her ranking, meaning that a WTA main draw will not be far away. I appreciate that most of this does not quite fulfill the criteria just yet, but due to the criteria's lack of clarity on players who have won an ITF tournament after 2012, I ask you to reconsider the deletion of my article for now until this can be clarified. Just a quick question; if the article was deleted, and Polina then fulfilled the criteria in a more obvious way (aka 5. was made clearer or she matched another of the points); would you be able to restore my previous article, or would it have to be written from scratch? Thanks, --Dalek194 (talk) 20:08, 31 May 2014 (UTC)

A player is deemed notable if they have won a $35,000 ITF event since 2008. Since there are no $35,000 events on the ITF Women's Circuit, the next higher tier is $50,000. Vinogradova has, to date, only won $25,000 tournaments. If we were to include every player who has won one of these, then we'd have dozens if not hundreds of articles more. These aren't my rules, I can only try to abide by them. Taking part in a qualifying tournament of a WTA event doesn't count either, unfortunately. The same goes for Grand Slams. Presuming the article is deleted and she does become notable in the future, then an administrator can restore the article to its previous state. Jared Preston (talk) 20:18, 31 May 2014 (UTC)

Lenice van Eyk

Hey, Just wondering shouldn't the 'v' of her name be left not capitalised? I did some research and I found out that South African's with Dutch surnames don't usually capitalise the 'van', 'der' and etc. For example Izak van der Merwe and Rik de Voest who are South African tennis players as well.

Keroks (talk) 11:40, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

I guess you're right. Thanks for changing it back! Jared Preston (talk) 12:02, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of 2014 Astra Italy Tennis Cup – Singles

The article 2014 Astra Italy Tennis Cup – Singles has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Not a significant tournament. Per Tennis Guidelines the lowest ladies ITF tournaments are not notable at all.

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Proposed deletion of 2014 Astra Italy Tennis Cup – Doubles

The article 2014 Astra Italy Tennis Cup – Doubles has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Not a notable event. Lowly $10,000 ITF tournaments (of which there are 100s) are not notable per Tennis Guidelines.

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Proposed deletion of Astra Italy Tennis Cup

The article Astra Italy Tennis Cup has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Not a notable event per Tennis project guidelines

While all constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, content or articles may be deleted for any of several reasons.

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2014 Internazionali di Tennis dell'Umbria

The fact it's a combined event is fine, but the ladies section is not notable and must be removed per guidelines. It cant stand above the other thousand tiny little events just because they decided to include it at the same time as a legitimate event. Fyunck(click) (talk) 06:24, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

That's what the Challenger Tour does. It doesn't make it any less legit. The 2014 McDonald's Burnie International in January even had the ITF Women's Circuit event ranked at $50K. As a rule of thumb, events at the same tournament are notable, which is why we also have drawsheets for the juniors at the Grand Slams, even if the junior players themselves aren't automatically notable. Jared Preston (talk) 06:30, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

Nomination of Astra Italy Tennis Cup for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Astra Italy Tennis Cup is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Astra Italy Tennis Cup until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Fyunck(click) (talk) 06:31, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

Anne Schäfer

Hello,

I recently created two articles but they have been selected to be deleted for not meeting the tennis notability rules. I am considering creating another article, "Anne Schäfer". She is a German tennis player who reached a career-high ranking of 161 in March 2009. Although she hasn't won any tournaments above the 25K level, she has been inside the Top 200 rankings. Will this statistic be enough to claim notability on this player?

Thank you, Zane Nariman — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zane Nariman (talk • contribs) 20:35, 1 July 2014 (UTC)

@Zane Nariman: Unfortunately, it doesn't matter how high a tennis player is ranked to warrant an article on the English Wikipedia. The guidelines don't support this, although it was mentioned last year on the project discussion page(s) (here and here). There was an article on Anne Schäfer, but it was deleted for not being notable – I had no idea about the guidelines back then and had frequently updated her stats. Jared Preston (talk) 20:53, 1 July 2014 (UTC)

100k Bogota in August

Hey, so there is a 100k in Bogota starting in the week of August 11. The name given for the event on the ITF website is simply just Seguros Bolívar Open. I would have named this event Seguros Bolívar Open Bogotá but there is obviously already a men's event for that which I do not think are joint events. So what should we name this event?

Keroks (talk) 11:25, 9 July 2014 (UTC)

Yes, this is quite confusing since there are so many Seguros Bolívar Opens. Of course one possibility would be to name it the "ITF Women's Circuit – Bogotá" tournament, but the ITF evidently have an official name for the event, and that is "Seguros Bolívar Open". I would be inclined to move Open Seguros Bolívar back to Seguros Bolívar Open Bogotá, add in the women's singles and doubles sections with previous winners and then create 2014 Seguros Bolívar Open Bogotá, which wouldn't be incorrect. The official website is no longer online, but with the help of the ITF's tournament history, http://www.itftennis.com/procircuit/tournaments/women%27s-calendar.aspx?tour=Bogota&reg=&nat=&sur=&cate=&iod=&fromDate=01-01-1994&toDate=31-12-2014, you can see here the previous tournaments to be held in Bogotá. We already have 2010 Seguros Bolívar Open Bogotá – Women's Singles and 2011 Open Seguros Bolívar – Women's Singles, joint events were the women's prize category was $25K, but how far back do the women's events go? The Spanish Wikipedia shows at least 2007 for the ITF (Women's Circuit), although the 2007 winners were at the $10K event in July of that year and there's no entry for the $25K event one month later, but it's possible they were forgotten. Anyway, what do you think of my idea? At least there's no men's event this year... Jared Preston (talk) 12:09, 9 July 2014 (UTC)

This is a tricky one, I'm not too sure on what to do here. I don't think these events are linked to any of the previous ones though. Perhaps we could name it Seguros Bolívar Women's Open Bogotá? Keroks (talk) 13:10, 9 July 2014 (UTC)

Sanaz Marand

The article was restored as a contested PROD User_talk:Ronhjones#Sanaz_Marand. You may wish to consider WP:Afd Ronhjones  ^(Talk) 19:30, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

@Ronhjones and Zane Nariman: I can confirm the player now meets WP:NTENNIS requirements as a player to have participated in the main draw (either singles or doubles, the latter in this case) of a WTA Tour event (but please note, Zane, I saw you had asked a question elsewhere about participation in the WTA 125K series, this does not grant notability unless the player wins the event). Many thanks. Jared Preston (talk) 19:46, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

Saint-Malo tournament

Hi Jared! Just a few questions that need to be answered here regarding the L'Open Emeraude Solaire de Saint-Malo that I have just created. In the 2011 Open GDF Suez de Bretagne page it states that there were 12 previous editions whilst I could only find them up to 2008. I have read somewhere that it had previously been held in Dinan although I am not sure if it is accurate and if they are really the same tournament. Keroks (talk) 11:11, 6 August 2014 (UTC)

Hi @Keroks! This web archive was a great help in clearing this up. It states that the 2010 version was the 15th event of the tournament "created" in 1996. This ITF calendar page shows all the events which took place in Dinan (1996–2007), obviously the host city before Saint-Malo. As you can see, starting from a $10K event, the prize money has risen steadily throughout the years. Prior to having been sponsored by GDF Suez, the main sponsor was Gaz de France, like many other French tennis tournaments. You're more than welcome to have a root through the archives for more sources, but I think that's a good start to be getting on with. Do you want to add the tournament's previous winners? Jared Preston (talk) 12:37, 6 August 2014 (UTC)

Thank you Jared again :D I'm fine with it if you want to add the previous winners. I just did the TEAN International previous winners and boy that was tiring

Keroks (talk) 13:06, 6 August 2014 (UTC)

Dalila Jakupovič

Hi Jared again :D Just wondering about the name Jakupovič... I'm not too sure about this and not sure if its with the č or ć. Theres already a page about the surname Jakupović and I've searched and there are no Jakupovič's anywhere, so I might be thinking that she may come from a Bosnian/Croatian background but is Slovenian. Therefore should her surname be Jakupović? Its also here http://lastnames.myheritage.com/last-name/Jakupovi%C4%87 as a Bosnian and Croatian surname.. I think we might have to change this one. Thanks :) Keroks (talk) 12:05, 14 August 2014 (UTC)

You were right with your inkling! There are plenty of sources in Slovene spelling it with a ć. Presumably others which spell it with a č are just done to "localise" the name. I have moved the article → Dalila Jakupović. Good spot! Jared Preston (talk) 12:35, 14 August 2014 (UTC)

Potato paradox

Hello, Jared Preston, could you please give me a reason for your contribution to the page Potato Paradox. I do not think it is necessary or advisable to add a picture of potatoes on a page about the potato paradox. You may add that on more appropriate pages such as potato. You could add a diagram or chart of how the potato paradox is done/solved. That would be helpful to many readers. Thank you for your time. D011235813d (talk) 01:36, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

Category:German Athletics Champions

Category:German Athletics Champions, which you created, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. SFB 18:08, 27 September 2014 (UTC)

$25,000 events in Sharm el-Sheikh

Hi Jared Preston, just an inquiry that needs a second opinion. So all year the $10k Sharm el-Sheikh events have been held at Jolie Ville Golf Resort, but in the last week of October and the first two weeks of November there appears to be three $25k Sharm el-Sheikh events which are held at Soho Square. I remember last year there was the Soho Square Ladies Tournament, could this be the same tournament but split into three? The only problem is that last year it was held on clay and now it is on hard courts.

Keroks (talk) 03:16, 30 September 2014 (UTC)

No, I don't think they should or will or do count as the same $75k tournament held last year, but maybe one of us will find some more info closer to the time. Have fun! Jared Preston (talk) 21:11, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

Source on CiCi Bellis's height?

You updated Bellis's page to add her height and I'm wondering where you got this information from. I doubt she's 5 ft 6. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.254.219.50 (talk) 03:01, 12 October 2014 (UTC)

Sourced from her WTA profile. Jared Preston (talk) 06:31, 12 October 2014 (UTC)

October 2014

Please stop! Some people will think no players participated this. – 333-blue 08:33, 30 October 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 333-blue (talk • contribs)

Huh? What's wrong? That was perfectly fine English (which has been used on many, many tennis draws before...), is there something you don't understand? For further reading, see the entry for "neither" on Wiktionary. Jared Preston (talk) 08:46, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

Untitled AfD discussion

I'm trying to figure out which AfD discussion an untitled thread at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2014 October 25 is about. After opening the log page, search for/use find feature for the phrase, "Player in question does not meet notability requirements as outlined here. Does not meet any of the six possible criteria." Notice how there's no header or article linked. Since you participated to the thread, what article/AfD discussion does this pertain to? NorthAmerica¹⁰⁰⁰ 04:50, 2 November 2014 (UTC)

• Never mind, I found it: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Charlotte Petrick. NorthAmerica¹⁰⁰⁰ 04:53, 2 November 2014 (UTC)

Taipei WTA Ladies Open

I like what you did to the Taipei WTA Ladies Open. Looks nice and clean. One thing though. Per consensus we must order the event oldest to newest, and this is in backwards order. Since you did the work I thought I'd have you figure out the best way to do that. Either three separate tables of events 125k, tier 4 and tier 5... or the same table you have now with tier 5 at the top. Later. Fyunck(click) (talk) 08:20, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

2014 Orto-Lääkärit Open

I thought you were against the creations of tournaments under the prizemoney of $50k for the women's circuit, but yet you create a page for a $10k tournament? Keroks (talk) 23:50, 8 November 2014 (UTC)

@Keroks: I have always advocated drawsheets for the women if they have competed at the same ATP Challenger Tour event as the men. As this is the case in Finland this week, the IPP Open is held alongside the Orto-Lääkärit Open, and even though the event has two names or two sponsors (that shouldn't actually matter), the fact that both men and women are playing at one location in the same week (and the men's event is on its own notable), then the women's draws should also be shown. Take a look at the tournament website: http://www.ippopen.net/ the women are just as prominent as the men here. Obviously I wouldn't be creating articles for the other $10,000 events in Greece, Morocco, Spain, Tunisia and Turkey, only here where the women are playing at one tournament together with the notable men's tour. If the organisers choose to give the women's competition a different name, or if the ITF award for women less money, that shouldn't be our concern. I should probably merge the previous winners lists into the main article as per previous discussions at AfD and on my talk page. But anyway, a similar example is the Fergana Challenger, with the only difference being that it's $25K prize fund for women, but here we also have women's drawsheets because they have competed at the same competition as the men. I'm really not trying to be awkward and hope you understand my arguments. All the best! Jared Preston (talk) 09:10, 9 November 2014 (UTC)

Jose Gonzalez

When you deleted my redlinked addition (José González, deleted José Manuel González Galindo), why didn't delete two another red links? Inconsecutive...--Unikalinho (talk) 22:19, 9 November 2014 (UTC)

 Done. Jared Preston (talk) 22:52, 9 November 2014 (UTC)

Samarkand

You reverted my changes to smarkand. Markanda is auto-redirected to Smarkand ..which is WRONG...it should at least go to disembiguation. there are OTHER VERY PROMINENT places and things with EXACT name MARKANDA. I am trying to remove auto-redirect from markanda to smarkand (not sure how to do it, pls lend your help if you know how to do it) if not then at least direct it to disambiguation and MARKANDA must not be AUTO-HIJACKED by SAMARKAND.

Vdhillon (talk) 08:29, 5 December 2014 (UTC)

So why don't you create a disambig-page and/or make the changes? Nobody is stopping you. Jared Preston (talk) 08:49, 5 December 2014 (UTC)