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reverted track listing format changes to Cut the Cake (album)

HI. I reverted an edit you made recently to the Cut the Cake (album) article. I describe my rationale in that article's Talk page Talk:Cut_the_Cake_(album). There's certainly plenty of room for debate / discussion about how to best format album track listings in Wikipedia articles although this might be a subject best taken up at the Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Albums page if you are interested in getting clarification or getting changes made to track listing guidelines. Pugetbill (talk) 18:19, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

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Some tips to help you out!

Hi Hhfjbaker, I thought I'd drop a few notes on your talk page with some help on writing articles :o)

First of all, it may be best for you to do a bit of reading, starting with the Wikipedia manual of style, which will give you a lot of information about how Wikipedia prefers its articles to be written. It's not as hard to follow as it might look; quite a bit of the information there probably won't be vital for you at first.

Second, I recommend you make a user sandbox - which is just an area you can use to practise in, and to make notes in, and to get things ready in. If you click this red link: user:Hhfjbaker/Sandbox, that will let you create that page (it gives you an edit window to start work in). Anything, anywhere, on the help and information pages which gives you an example, try it out in your sandbox until you're familiar with it.

For your article, the next thing you want to do is start collecting as much information as you can about it. Google searches (particularly in Books and Scholar) will be your best friend for this! Once you've found the information, the next most important thing is to start writing up each fact in your own words (very important, this), and make a note at the same time of exactly where that information came from. Build in the references as you go along; I'm going to copy in, down below this, a whole heap of help on doing references, which was produced by one of our best teachers (Chzz).

Here's another place that you'll find incredibly useful - citation templates which you can copy and paste into your sandbox, between <ref></ref> tags; you just fill in the blanks from your sources into the template, and you'll end up with nicely formatted inline citations :o) It all helps. Remember to add a references section to your sandbox (make a new line, and put ==References== on it, and type {{reflist}} on the next line, so that you can see how your citations look as you do them. Remember to save your page often! You don't want to lose your work.

Hopefully this will give you a good start and make life easier for you.

One last thing to keep as a motto: "It's better to write one good, well-referenced, nicely-presented article than it is to create fifty unreferenced one-line stubs!" Pesky (talkstalk!) 09:54, 22 October 2011 (UTC)

How references work

Simple references

These require two parts;

a)
Chzz is 98 years old.<ref> "The book of Chzz", Aardvark Books, 2009. </ref>

He likes tea. <ref> [http://www.nicecupofteaandasitdown.com Tea website] </ref>
b) A section called "References" with the special code "{{reflist}}";
== References ==
{{reflist}}

(an existing article is likely to already have one of these sections)

To see the result of that, please look at user:chzz/demo/simpleref. Edit it, and check the code; perhaps make a test page of your own, such as user:Hhfjbaker/reftest and try it out.

Named references

Chzz was born in 1837. <ref name=MyBook>
"The book of Chzz", Aardvark Books, 2009. 
</ref> 

Chzz lives in Footown.<ref name=MyBook/>

Note that the second usage has a / (and no closing ref tag). This needs a reference section as above; please see user:chzz/demo/namedref to see the result.

Citation templates

You can put anything you like between <ref> and </ref>, but using citation templates makes for a neat, consistent look;

Chzz has 37 Olympic medals. <ref> {{Citation
 | last = Smith
 | first = John
 | title = Olympic medal winners of the 20th century
 | publication-date = 2001
 | publisher = [[Cambridge University Press]]
 | page = 125
 | isbn = 0-521-37169-4
}}
</ref>

Please see user:chzz/demo/citeref to see the result.

For more help and tips on that subject, see user:chzz/help/refs.

Something to make your life easier!

Hi there Hhfjbaker! I've just come across one of your articles, and noticed that you had to create titles for your url links manually, or were using bare urls as references.

You might want to consider using this tool - it makes your life a whole heap easier, by filling in complete citation templates for your links. All you do is install the script on Special:MyPage/common.js, or or Special:MyPage/vector.js, then paste the bare url (without [...] brackets) between your <ref></ref> tabs, and you'll find a clickable link called Reflinks in your toolbox section of the page (probably in the left hand column). Then click that tool. It does all the rest of the work (provided that you remember to save the page! It doesn't work for everything (particularly often not for pdf documents), but for pretty much anything ending in "htm" or "html" (and with a title) it will do really, really well. Happy editing! Pesky (talkstalk!) 09:54, 22 October 2011 (UTC)


Thanks! This will help a lot. Cheers!

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Edit summary, please

When you make edits to an article without including an Edit summary, as you did on Sydney Pope, you are hiding edits from your fellow editors. In my case, it means you have rendered my Watchlist useless for tracking vandals, unless I trudge through the tiresome process of chasing down your edit summaries one by one. In short, you make extra work for me.

Could you please include edit summaries, per standard WP practice, in the future?

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Shucks! I meant to do it on the final version after I made sure it worked, sorry!

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Lost Battalion Contribution

I enjoyed your contribution to the 36th Division page, but I'm wondering if that information wouldn't be more appropriate on a page for the battalion with a pointer to it from the division page. That section alone is very detailed and as such takes up as much space as the current division Combat Chronicle. — Preceding unsigned comment added by RTO Trainer (talkcontribs) 21:49, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

I was thinking that it may eventually become its own article, but I do not have time to write it. I think that as a temporary measure, this added section is sufficient. Hhfjbaker (talk) 21:01, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

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East Tennessee counties and secession

Thanks for adding this information. I corrected the date from February 1861 to June 8, 1861. In the paragraph above the footnote in the Temple book, he is merely describing how Scott County was the proportional leader in the June 8 referendum, whereas Sevier County had been the leader in the February referendum. Bms4880 (talk) 21:01, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

Robert Palmer hoax text

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I wrote using a personal copy of the official command history from when I was there for the period up to the end of the Cold War. Hhfjbaker (talk) 17:48, 8 March 2020 (UTC)

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Would you be so kind as to double-check the copying notes on the page now? I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks!Hhfjbaker (talk) 16:59, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

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I am adding and editing the article now. Mea culpa, I didn't include PD notice on a couple of references. Of note, Acton Memorial Library does not hold the copyright on the text it has posted as they are from two of the three PD ref's I listed. Hhfjbaker (talk) 16:15, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

Is there a way to save a draft of an article?? Did I miss a feature somewhere? Hhfjbaker (talk) 16:22, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

5th New York Cavalry

Hello Hhfjbaker - Recently you changed the name of 5th New York Cavalry to 5th Regiment New York Volunteer Cavalry. That was the original name of the article, but peer review (scroll down to @Kges1901:) wanted it changed. Now you have changed it back. Please have the American Civil War task force should come to some type of agreement on how to title these articles. I will have the 18th Pennsylvania Cavalry done in a few months. I will use whatever naming style the task force decides is appropriate, but I do not want to have to deal with name changes again. TwoScars (talk) 17:05, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

  • Adding on, I'd recommend that you stop moving these articles. You haven't established a consensus for why the articles should be moved. Kges1901 (talk) 17:10, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
    • Okay, I cannot find it now, but I could have sworn I saw a post at American Civil War task force say format should be [ordinal] Regiment [state] Volunteer [branch], that is, there was a consensus. I thought the discussion was whether to include United States or U.S. before Volunteers. It seemed a no-brainer to me as it fit with style guides/conventions I have seen for years. Also, should Wikipedia not use the official, period title when in use? We use 94th Aero Squadron even though its peers that stayed on were renamed Pursuit Squadrons and later Fighter Squadrons. Why shouldn't historians use the nomenclature of the time period and then use more modern convention within the article? In historical scholarship, the convention (as of 2008 - UMass Lowell was the same as 1978-1982 college, using period nomenclature). Has this completely changed in the last twelve years? I will halt moving for now, but I really don't see the justification. Let me know what you think, please. Hhfjbaker (talk) 17:31, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
    • That post was the consensus in 2010. The consensus has changed much since then, based on WP:MILMOS#UNITNAME, which says that, "where a formal name is not commonly employed by historians, the most common name used in historical literature." So in the case of American Civil War regiments, the majority of historians do not use the 19th century word order, and that is why the consensus has shifted to, for example, titles such as 215th Pennsylvania Infantry Regiment. As to your example of the 94th Aero, that is because historians call it the 94th Aero when talking about its World War I history since it would be anachronistic and confusing to call it the 94th Fighter. Kges1901 (talk) 17:59, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
      • Hmmm. "The name should generally be either the official name used by the armed forces to which the unit or base belongs" In all official records of Union Army in federal and state archives, [ordinal] Regiment [state] Volunteer [branch] is used. That seems to agree with the format I put forward. I see it commonly used in books/articles and then a shorthand is used, e.g., 20th Regiment Maine Volunteer Infantry initially and 20th Maine in following mentions Hhfjbaker (talk) 18:08, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
  • It does. Wikipedia usage reflects shifts in terminology. That's why we don't call the Union Army article the 'Federal Army', the Civil War the 'War of the Rebellion', or the Confederates Secessionists (all of which might be terms used by veterans of the conflict). For the record, Catton in Mr. Lincoln's Army uses the short names of the regiments. Kges1901 (talk) 19:43, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

What about moving them to [ordinal] [state] [branch] Regiment, U.S. Volunteers ? Like 215th Pennsylvania Infantry Regiment, U.S. Volunteers? Hhfjbaker (talk) 22:38, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

  • No, that version does not appear to be commonly used in secondary sources. And in the Civil War, US Volunteers often referred to Federally-raised volunteer regiments formed from Confederate POWs. Furthermore, I've written many state regiment histories and have never seen USV after the state title, which makes including USV in titles of state regiments entirely incorrect (neither used by historians nor by contemporaries). I think USV on belt buckles probably denoted the Federal origin of such items rather than anything related to unit tiles. Kges1901 (talk) 10:39, 22 April 2020 (UTC)

Renaming Massachusetts Civil War unit pages

Hi. Similar comment to the above. I noticed you renamed the 1st, 2nd and 3rd Massachusetts regiments. I was part of the conversation referenced above in the Civil War Task Force (a conversation which I can't find presently) about naming back in 2010. What you stated above about [ordinal] Regiment [state] Volunteer [branch] is, as you pointed out, absolutely the correct naming convention used in the 19th century. And should, in my opinion, absolutely be used for the "official" name of the unit and the name of the page. This is, as I recall, where we came down on the matter and, you'll notice with maybe a couple exceptions, is how the Massachusetts infantry units are named. We also agreed that there was a difference between the "official" name for the page and the "common name" i.e. "21st Massachusetts" and that was fine. "21st Massachusetts" would be appropriate for the body of the text but not the name of the page. I know it's a small thing, but seeing "regiment" at the end of unit name just is like nails on a chalkboard to me. It's not correct. Can you hold on changing any further until we've got some consensus on this?Historical Perspective 2 (talk) 12:07, 22 April 2020 (UTC)

Um. That's not what I meant. What I was saying is that the proper name of the unit ought to remain the page name. Which is what was agreed upon many years ago. So, "21st Regiment Massachusetts Volunteer Infantry" for the page name and in the body of the text "21st Massachusetts." I have to admit I'm left scratching my head as to why you would rename a whole series of articles without touching base without coming to a consensus. And why the date in parenthesis for 2nd Massachusetts? To be consistent would there then need to be a date next to every Civil War unit? I think you're plowing ahead here where there should be some discussion.Historical Perspective 2 (talk) 16:27, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
Comment What's happening here is that I wrote the opposite of what you said here given the designation, and HHfjbaker is doing the opposite of what he did originally. At this point, it would be best if a firm consensus is reached on Civil War article titles and we can have a discussion about it on WT:MILHIST to avoid further page moves which I think detract from actual improvement of articles. Kges1901 (talk) 16:40, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
Agreed. HHfjbaker, please slow down a moment. I think the quantity of pages being renamed without consensus or even consistency constitutes vandalism.Historical Perspective 2 (talk) 16:49, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Vandalism? Really? Why not I just remove the word Regiment between the ordinal and the state where I had renamed since you two disagree? (I did all the New England states) You both seem to agree on that.
I may have jumped the gun with "vandalism," sorry. It was just a whole lot of page name changes that seemed to be happening very fast without any discussion behind it. See comments on WT:MILHIST. The upshot from my perspective being that the name changes are fine except the ones with dates. Kges1901 pointed out what you were trying to do there but it's better done with a hatnote. So, pending any further discussion, I'd suggest changing the names of the articles that you added years to. Historical Perspective 2 (talk) 20:11, 22 April 2020 (UTC)

Reformatting sources/bibliography on Massachusetts ACW units

Hi, HHfjbaker. Could I ask that you stop reformatting the source sections on the Massachusetts regiments articles by converting them to the long vertical format? For one, I think this falls under the category of "if it ain't broke don't fix it." But the larger problem is that it makes viewing bibliographies while editing more difficult. Especially in articles with long source lists. The condensed, horizontal format is the convention for literally every historical page I've ever seen. And in the rare instance when somebody adds a source in vertical format, someone comes along and changes it to horizontal. Would appreciate this very much. Historical Perspective 2 (talk) 11:08, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

Ah, I see what you mean. Sorry completely misunderstood. Misread "editing."Hhfjbaker (talk) 16:42, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

Please stop reformatting the references sections. Your last edit on the 6th Massachusetts broke all the SFN links built in to the notes. Check WP:SFN if you're not familiar with that. Allows the reader to click on the citation and then click from the note to the reference all using internal links. I really can't see any reason for reformatting reference sections which are perfectly fine as is. Unless there is a really good reason for changing the formatting, please leave it be. Your changes are disruptive and actually make the articles more difficult to edit--and in this case cause a loss of functionality. If it ain't broke.... Historical Perspective 2 (talk) 19:52, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

So, It needs to be called Reference then instead of bibliography from how I read the Template:Sfn page, right? Hhfjbaker (talk) 20:01, 26 April 2020 (UTC)
No. The citation template needs to have a "last" field. Not "authorname." Why are you converting the citations from "first" and "last" to "authorname"? What is gained by this? Not a rhetorical question, I'm really wondering. Because what is lost is the SFN link. Historical Perspective 2 (talk) 20:36, 26 April 2020 (UTC)
Okay, got it. I was mistakenly following what I thought was standard as I have been adding content to various articles. Hhfjbaker (talk) 20:44, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

Also, your use of PD-notice is not correct. That is for very old and obscure sources which do not fit in to any existing citation templates. Meaning really oddball stuff. The sources in the Massachusetts regiments articles are standard 19th century texts which fit perfectly well into the cite book template. Here's the wording from Template:PD-notice "This template should be placed at the end of a citation if the article incorporates text from that source that is not under copyright and there is no source specific template listed in Category:Attribution templates." Does not apply here and should not be used.Historical Perspective 2 (talk) 20:51, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

But these are all public domain documents. Does one not need ti identify them? Hhfjbaker (talk) 21:08, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

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Massachusetts battery naming convention

Hi. Earlier today I posted a suggestion on the 10th Massachusetts Battery talk page regarding naming for Massachusetts battery articles. I also posted a "heads up" regarding my suggestion on Massachusetts battery articles created by other editors. In short, I'm suggesting, per the "common name" rule, that these articles be named "Nth Massachusetts Battery." Nice and simple. This is what they're commonly called in current historical works. These posts were all an attempt to make sure there's consensus--or at least no objections--before I went ahead and renamed articles. Could you take a look on hold off on renaming other articles for a bit? Thanks. Historical Perspective 2 (talk) 17:52, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

Roger that. I trust you if you say that's more common. You've been right before. Thanks.Hhfjbaker (talk) 18
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Secondly, I've noticed that you've been making a number of edits to articles that I either created or significantly improved over several years as a member of Milhist, including bios for U.S. Medal of Honor winners and profiles of American Civil War regiments - a number of which I improved from stub/start class to B-class, and which I took through Milhist's fairly rigorous review process (so these articles were already in fairly good shape).

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In addition, the Wikipedia Manual of Style: Icons is very clear on this point: "Generally, flag icons should not be used in Infoboxes ... they are unnecessarily distracting."

So, I wanted to reach out to ask you if you've advised the Milhist group that you were planning to make all of these edits. (In general, an article tweak here or there is fine, and a flag icon here or there is also not a big deal, but when you plan to make such a major stylistic change on such a large scale, it's best to run things past the Milhist group to secure consensus before embarking on your project.)

Does Milhist know you've been adding all of those flag icons to existing articles? If not, please hold off on any further icon additions until you've brought the issue up in the Milhist discussion group. Thanks in advance for your cooperation. 47thPennVols (talk) 03:59, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

No, I missed that part of the Wikipedia Manual of Style: Icons. I will refrain in the future. Hhfjbaker (talk) 21:31, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
I just double-checked, and yes I may have gone overboard with multiple USMC icons on that page, it looks like I'm still okay with adding an icon for the unit with which they won the MoH.Hhfjbaker (talk) 21:51, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

Beg a boon of thee

Hey there! You've done some very good work on ACW units and I noticed you had done quite a lot of sourcing in April on the 92nd Illinois. I have recently merged 92nd Infantry and 92nd Mounted Infantry articles and performed a text and source merge. I was wondering if you'd look the result over and streamline the timeline and correct any errors I made. I can't imagine you'd have inserted all those sources unless you had plans to expand the page. If I can be of any assistance I'd be glad to help. BusterD (talk) 19:52, 3 July 2020 (UTC)

Okay if I wait until Monday? Hhfjbaker (talk) 22:16, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
Sure. Big weekend. I just thought you'd have a better set of eyes for it. Thanks for all you do. BusterD (talk) 22:23, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
Looks good. I converted the references to [1] format. I also want to add the detailed service from Dyer at some point - unless, do you want to do it? Hhfjbaker (talk) 01:56, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
I agree it looks better under your careful hand. I'm really tied up in RL this week so my edits are down. If you have time, feel free. BusterD (talk) 03:30, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
Va bene. Many thanks!Hhfjbaker (talk) 14:37, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

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The Bugle: Issue CLXXVIII, February 2021

 
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The Bugle: Issue CLXXIX, March 2021

 
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April 2021 WikiProject Military History Reviewing Drive

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The Bugle: Issue CLXXX, April 2021

 
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The Bugle: Issue CLXXXI, May 2021

 
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Nice to see your datestamp

I saw you'd taken some time between edits so it's great to see you so productive today! Happy editing! BusterD (talk) 20:24, 7 June 2021 (UTC)

Yes, I had to remind myself that work in the Sandbox needed to be added to the actual article. Thanks!Hal Boo (talk) 20
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The Bugle: Issue CLXXXIII, July 2021

 
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The Bugle: Issue CLXXXIV, August 2021

 
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The Bugle: Issue CLXXXV, September 2021

 
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The Bugle: Issue CLXXV, October 2021

 
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The Bugle: Issue CLXXVII, December 2021

 
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"David Ayers" listed at Redirects for discussion

  An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect David Ayers and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 January 20#David Ayers until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. Smartyllama (talk) 14:47, 20 January 2022 (UTC)

ISSN

Thanks for the note. I will watch out for that. The ISSN's need to be either dashed or un-dashed, but not long-dashed. One of the tools I use does not understand that. Good to know. Another tool that I have fixes those back. Now I understand where they come from. AManWithNoPlan (talk) 17:14, 21 January 2022 (UTC)

Roger that, thanks!Boo Boo (talk) 17:38, 21 January 2022 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CLXXVIII, January 2022

 
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The Bugle: Issue CLXXVIV, February 2022

 
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Internet Archive Scholar vs. JSTOR

Hello, I see on your user page that you use JSTOR and I'd like to know more about your experience. By my calculations, a good 70 % of the main JSTOR content is now available for everyone at Internet Archive Scholar, with full text search provided e.g. at https://scholar.archive.org/ . The service is still in beta, but I've used it for some source-finding and it seems quite usable to me; I wonder whether that's just my experience. If you have a chance, the next time you'd be looking for a source on Google Scholar or JSTOR or similar, to perform the same search on IA scholar instead, I'd be curious to hear how it ends up. Thanks, Nemo 19:06, 22 March 2022 (UTC)

I like both, but when using the Wikipedia Library, it seems easier to filter searches in JSTOR vs Internet Archive Scholar (IAS). IAS seems to be getting better, but when you have reached the threshold for The Wikipedia Library, you can get access to JSTOR and other online resources for free. Boo Boo (talk) 22:10, 1 April 2022 (UTC)

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The Bugle: Issue CLXXVIII, April 2022

 
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