User talk:Ground Zero/Archive 20

Alexander Rybak

188.178.119.118 Dear editors. I am one of Alexander Rybaks admins of his social pages. He has studied this Wikipedia-page about him and has asked us to bring a request: Is it possible to delete the Chart-lists? As he says, he has not really been big on Charts since 2010 and he has long ago decided, he is not a "format-artist". His work is about so many other things, than Charts. He would be very happy, if the Charts could be removed. Another reason is, for every album on this page, there is links to seperate Wiki-pages where the charts can be found. Perhaps, that is sufficient? Removal of the charts could provide space for more interesting info, maybe:-)

If you need any info, we will be happy to help out. Here is the link to his recently updated BIO at his website: http://www.alexanderrybak.com/bio/

He has given us an updated list of his releases. I have already added the "Education" and "Awards" to the page, but I post the Release-list here, in case there is some new info, that could be used for update of the page. Thanks for your great work and updating of this Wikipedia-page. Best regards.

RELEASES:

Albums:

“Fairytales” (2009)

“Skazki” (2010)

“No Boundaries” (2010)

“Nebesa Evropy” (2011)

“Visa Vid Vindens Ängar” (2011)

“Christmas Tales” (2012)

Singles:

“Foolin´” (2006)

“Fairytale” (2009)

“Funny Little World” (2009)

“Roll With The Wind” (2009)

“Ya Neveryu v Chudesa” (2009)

“Europe Skies” (2010)

“Fela Igjen” (2010)

“Oah” (2010)

“Skazka” (2010)

“Resan Till Dig” (2011)

“Nebesa Evropy” (2011)

“Strela Amura” (2012)

"I'll Show You" (2012)

“Leave Me Alone” (2012)

“Dostala” (2012)

“Presents” (2012)

Music Videos:

“Foolin´” (2006)

“Fairytale” (2009)

“Roll With The Wind” (2009)

“Funny Little World” (2009)

“Ya Neveryu v Chudesa” (2009)

“Fela Igjen” (2010)

“Oah” (2010)

“Europe Skies” & “Nebesa Evropy” two versions (2010)

“Nebashil Europy” (2011)

“Strela Amura” (2012)

“Dostala” & “Leave Me Alone” two versions (2012)

“5 to 7 Years” (2013)

OTHER RELEASES:

“Fairytale The Movie” DVD (2009)

"Some Sunny Night - Live in Lillesand" (Musical - 2009)

"Yohan: The Child Wanderer" (Film - 2010)

"Dragetreneren" (Animated Movie - 2010)

"Mumintrollet - Kometen Kommer" (Animated Movie - 2010)

“Alexander Rybak Songbook” (2010)

“Alexander Rybak Songbook for Young Violinists” (2011) (188.178.119.118 (talk) 20:03, 11 January 2014 (UTC))

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Teletoon (Canada)

Why did you revert my edits? This revert of yours (not to mention its reasoning) was so outrageous that I consider it vandalism! Dogmaticeclectic (talk) 01:21, 2 July 2013 (UTC)

If you make edits that do not use punctuation and correct capitalization, you should expect that they will be reverted. You must make more of an effort. Removing sloppy edits is not vandalism. Ground Zero | t 01:23, 2 July 2013 (UTC)

I've already responded at my own user talk page. Dogmaticeclectic (talk) 01:25, 2 July 2013 (UTC)

American West

Many thanks for your editing and skills. Also for your guides for editing. Richlevine00 (talk) 03:34, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

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My user talk page

It's the second time you've done that. What's going on? Dogmaticeclectic (talk) 01:10, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

And old friend

Guess who's back?[1]  Yintan  10:57, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

Emmanuel Ray

Hey there, noticed you have dealt with this article for some time now. Not a frequently edited article, but most edits over time have been clear BLP violations, as you have seen, with some constructive contributions from IPs and unconfirmed users. I can work to clean up this article, in the meantime I thought I'd reach out to you about adding pc protection (indefinite?) to prevent further disruption. What are your thoughts? Thanks — MusikAnimal ^talk 18:54, 12 September 2013 (UTC)

Cnmk

I'm having a spot of bother with Cnmk (talk · contribs), whom I think is has also contributed as 92.26.82.86 (talk · contribs) today because of the timing of edits by those two accounts to List of Parkavakulam personalities and Parkavakulam. If it were not for the fact that they have been previously blocked for edit warring and general disruptiveness, I'd probably spend some time explaining but with the circumstances as they are I am not sure whether it is worth the effort. In any event I've got some IT problems and my activity is decreasing accordingly. You were the last person to block and I notice that you did make an attempt to explain - do you have the time and inclination to pick up on this? No worries if not as the thing will probably end up at WP:AN3 in due course. - Sitush (talk) 17:41, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

• I see that another editor has addressed the issue with a permanent block. Sorry I couldn't help - I have been away from my computer. Ground Zero | t 01:15, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

Ernie Eves

new talk on ernie eves page, thought you would be interested. 24.36.155.70 (talk) 21:11, 5 June 2013 (UTC)#WHEEZE

Chocolate Soldier (Parliament)

Dear Ground Zero, you have been one of the last Wikipedians to take an active interest on the article Chocolate Soldier (Parliament). To me (a reader without U.K. background) the heading of this article is a bit misleading because it refers to "Parliament" which is a general term without special reference to the U.K. Quite obviously the article itself offers some sort of "History" for the Short Money which is another separate article. I was considering that a fusion of both articles might make sense. How do you feel about this? Khnassmacher (talk) 06:32, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

Drive by addition

What about "is now"? In an encyclopedia that doesn't get updated as fast as good intentions intend then "is now" can be a poor choice on its own too. I would suggest For example:

• The restaurant was closed for several years, but it is open now (2013).
• Obama is (2013) the President of the USA.

makes sure that a reader, in 2017?, understands what was intended when the text was written Victuallers (talk) 15:08, 12 September 2013 (UTC)

I have thought about this for a few days (and been away). The problem with this approach is that when the reader reads the statement in 2017, it is no longer "now", so "now" should really not be used. Better to use Template:As of ({{As of|year}}, {{As of|year|month}} or {{As of|year|month|day}}), which marks potentially dated statements, and will add an article to the appropriate hidden sub-category of Category:Articles containing potentially dated statements. I will adjust my comments above. Thanks for raising this issue. Regards, Ground Zero | t 01:20, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

Kabul Bank

thank you. have cited sources and appreciate your help Publico2020 (talk) 00:10, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

vandalism in Lurs and Luristan page

Hi Ground Zero

"HistoryofIran" user vandalism in Lurs and Luristan page. He remove All Historical images and "Lur people of iran" map no valid reason. I ask you to stop doing this "HistoryofIran" user.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:HistoryofIran

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorestan_Province

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lurs

Thank youSetenlyacc (talk) 05:51, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

I was considering taking both of them to ANI. The articles they are edit-warring on are a mess. However, I discovered that Setenlyacc ignored my warnings about copyvio and, as I did earlier with HistoryofIran, I have blocked him indefinitely which means he is blocked until we can be sure he understands our copyvio policy and can edit it without breaking it. Dougweller (talk) 07:11, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

i saw that. Good call. It did seem like Setenlyacc was not attempting to resolve the problem him/herself, but just crying vandalism and trying get others to fight his/her battle. Regards. Ground Zero | t 11:16, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

Style

I am a little puzzled by your edit on T3 ~ Technion Technology Transfer MOS Trademarks says to to use typographic styling, so what's with the ~ symbol? DGG ( talk ) 23:55, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

That was a year and a half ago, but you are right. I've cleaned it up now. Ground Zero | t 01:44, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

Unsourced IP changes

Hi Ground Zero, you might find this edit interesting.[2] Despite the block, the IP has gone right back to making the same type of changes. Cmr08 (talk) 01:06, 26 September 2013 (UTC)

I don't think this IP has any intention of stopping the unsourced changes to political ideology. Once the block was over, this edit was made.[3] Going through the contribution history shows that the editor has been making the same type of edits to many articles dating back to July 2012. The editor has been reverted over-and-over again and as far as I can tell has never attempted to explain the changes on a talk page or even leave one edit summary. I understand why you would prefer not to block the address indefinitely, but the short blocks aren't deterring the editor from disruptive editing, even the month long block by another admin on July 30 didn't help, as the history shows the edits started up again on September 1. It's possible I'm making too much out of this, but can you see anything this editor has done that's not intentionally disrupting articles? Cmr08 (talk) 08:31, 30 September 2013 (UTC)

Not sure why there was only one edit, but intentionally baiting us is a pretty good possibility. I don't know if it will help in the long run, but three months of not having to check and see if the IP made any edits will be good. Thanks. Cmr08 (talk) 22:11, 30 September 2013 (UTC)

Diners Club International

Hi Ground Zero. I noticed you've edited the article from time-to-time and was wondering if you had the time and interest to collaborate on it here. I have a conflict of interest, so I won't be doing any bold editing on the page. CorporateM (Talk) 00:01, 2 October 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Teamwork Barnstar
	Thanks for helping out on my cleanup of Angela Kennedy. You helping out was appreciated! Canadianpolitics (talk) 22:56, 3 October 2013 (UTC)

THANKS !

Hello there, Ground Zero. Many thanks for helping out in the editing of the Luis González Bravo page. All technical editing details help, sometimes one can't have such a keen eye for everything, I'm a bit new in this! Cheers. SpanishChapters (talk)

Monarchist Party official location

Greetings, thank you very much for your copyedits in the Monarchist Party article! I wanted to clarify the "official location" issue you was concerned with. The meaning of this is "juridical address" of the office where party is officially registered with authorities which are in this case headed by Russian Ministry of Justice. Here is the party's registry entry at the ministry's website: the last line says "Адрес (место нахождения): 624055, Свердловская область, Белоярский район, село Косулино, ул. Кузнечная, д. 7А., т . 8 (343) 355-34-73", literal translation: "Address (place of location): 624055, Sverdlovsk Oblast, Beloyarsky Raion, settlement Kosulino, street Kuznechnaya, building 7A, telephone 8 (343) 355-34-73" - does this make it clear for you? We can use any wording you find suitable. --ssr (talk) 07:18, 8 October 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for staying current

I appreciate your patrolling to remove the word "currently" when it is extraneously used. Blue Rasberry (talk) 13:19, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

Citizens Financial Group

Hey although it was in good faith, I undid your reverted edit to the Citizens Financial Group page. The spin-off of Citizens by RBS has been rumored for some time, the source provided did mention what was cited on the page, and the source itself was reliable. If there are any objections, feel free to let me know. Thanks! Jgera5 (talk) 10:41, 2 November 2013 (UTC)

• I'm sorry. That was an accidental revert. There was nothing wrong with your edit. My apologies. Ground Zero | t 13:30, 2 November 2013 (UTC)

No worries. Just didn't know what was going on. Thanks! Jgera5 (talk) 18:07, 5 November 2013 (UTC)

Minor edit tag

I see you culled a "currently" from Pablo Rodriguez earlier today. I'm glad you did, because it made me take a second look at the article. It turns out to be riddled with {{citation needed}}, {{primary source-inline}} and {{not in citation given}}. I then checked the history to see who had authored or apparently accepted all the self-promoting claims, and up popped your moniker. No offense, but when you are just doing drive-by fixes like "currently" it might be better to flag your edits as "minor", otherwise readers will assume that you've examined the nearby context and are to some extent validating the material you are editing. Is that OK with you? All the best - Pointillist (talk) 23:49, 11 November 2013 (UTC)

• I don't think it is reasonable to infer that an editor has done a thorough review of an article if they haven't indicated a minor edit. However, I agree that my edit was minor and I should have tagged it as such. Regards, Ground Zero | t 11:58, 12 November 2013 (UTC)

• Oh, I didn't mean the whole article—just the sentences that you've actually changed. Cheers - Pointillist (talk) 12:45, 12 November 2013 (UTC)

Canada - Official Languages

Hi there, I'm having real trouble with the main Canada article on the talk page under "official languages," someone's blocking the edits for rather strange reasons. Would you be able to lend a hand on the talk page? Thanks. Knoper (talk) 03:35, 21 November 2013 (UTC)

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Aecharri's possible sockpuppet Inesbugsbunnyines?

I stumbled across this editing by a "new user". I noticed this person has the same editing issue(s) as Aecharri. The mistake of "her" when speaking of men[4], poorly/oddly worded English which ends up meaning nothing[5]

Thought I'd give you a heads up. --Kansas Bear (talk) 19:25, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

MPs

The practice has always been that if there is an outgoing incumbent who still holds the office, then it's necessary to hold off until the swearing-in, precisely because saying John Doe holds the office while it's actually still held by Jane Smith is an objective misrepresentation of the fact that the office is still held by somebody other than the newly-elected designate.

However, in a situation where the office isn't still held by someone else in the meantime, there's no real benefit to be had by waiting for the formal swearing-in before the new occupant can be listed — there's never been any consensus, for example, to leave individual electoral districts denoted as still being served by the defeated or retiring former MP or as "vacant", rather than by the newly-elected MP, in the week or two after a general election or a by-election.

For one thing, the swearing-in ceremony is a formality that often isn't covered by the media at all, making it very often unsourceable whether the person has actually been sworn in or not. The person's first appearance in the HoC may get covered, but the actual swearing-in took place under the radar sometime before that day — it is impossible, for instance, to correctly source what day a newly-elected MP actually got sworn into office, which is why we have the constant back and forth edit warring about whether an MP should be denoted as taking office on the date of the election or on the date of their first sitting in Parliament — both dates are wrong if you want to be genuinely technical about it, with the real date being a wholly unsourceable day somewhere in between the two. But the outgoing "incumbent" already doesn't hold the office anymore, since their term in office ended on either the date of their resignation in a by-election, or the date of the writ drop in a general, so there's no real value in insisting that the new person doesn't "officially" hold the job yet if nobody else still holds it either.

"Officer" positions (PM, premier, mayor, etc.) are different, because the outgoing incumbent actually still holds the office for a period of time after the election date. That isn't true of individual MPs — a newly elected MP is taking over a seat that was vacant, not one that somebody else still holds. That's the test: if somebody else still actually holds the position as of today, then we have to wait until the handover actually happens. But if nobody else does, then there's no value in applying the same level of strictness. Bearcat (talk) 00:37, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

Also, if you feel sufficiently strongly about it you can change the predecessor = field in the infobox to succeeding =, so that they're denoted as "taking office" instead of "incumbent". But it's not appropriate or useful to just comment the entire section out of the infobox completely so that they're denoted as nothing. Bearcat (talk) 01:03, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

Re:Ambiguity

By saying; "What are the units for your numbers? 160 million what?", I thought you were referring to the currency of the funds, which I felt was quite obvious and need not be added. Why did you simply not say I was missing the dollar sign? Also I don't understand why you've taken an adversarial approach in these matters. I corrected one of your specified complaints and yet you chose to ignore that and wrote that I "didn't bother" to correct them. There was no need for that.Vejet (talk) 06:43, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

• No style guide anywhere says that it is okay to leave out the currency units with a number. People may leave them out when speaking informally, but that is not appropriate style for an encyclopedia article. I did not ignore the edits you corrected. I posted on your talk page the following comment: "Thank you for fixing some of your errors. I have fixed the rest that you left in there." I asked you politely to fix two errors in your work, and you fixed only one, leaving the other for someone else to clean up. That seemed to be adversarial to me. Ground Zero | t 13:45, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

You consider that adversarial? If so you have a rather broad perspective of what is considered adversarial, which I can assure you was not my intent. Still, there was no need escalate the matter with a personal attack. Simply correcting the deficiency and leaving a comment on my talk page would have been sufficient.Vejet (talk) 06:00, 5 December 2013 (UTC)

Currently

Suggest shorten your edit comment of 15 words over-explaining minor removal of one word. Sighola2 (talk) 15:28, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

• Ok. Ground Zero | t 10:37, 5 December 2013 (UTC)

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FYI I have started a dispute resolution process at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution_noticeboard#Registered_Retirement_Savings_Plan_and_its_Talk_page24.85.94.77 (talk) 15:16, 31 December 2013 (UTC)

Fernando Álvarez de Toledo, 3rd Duke of Alba

Since user:Inesbugsbunnyines refuses to use the talk page and engage in discussion and instead is posting ?threats?(in really bad English) on user:Arnoutf's talk page,[6] would you be interested in protecting the Fernando Álvarez de Toledo, 3rd Duke of Alba article? --Kansas Bear (talk) 05:32, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

I have semi-protected the article to stop the edit-warring by the unregistered editor. I will escalate if necessary. Regards, Ground Zero | t 13:59, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

Invitation

Hi. I am conducting a survey of most active Wikipedians, regarding reasons they may reduce their activity. I would be very interested in having you participate in it. Would you be interested? (If you reply to me here, please WP:ECHO me). Thank you for your consideration, --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 19:30, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you Ground Zero for the copyedit on BLP article Matthew Landy Steen. How do I drop the middle name and manage redirects and dabs? I know you have no spare time and so feel free to forward this question to where it properly belongs. Weathervane13 21:09, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

• I'll reply on your talk page. Ground Zero | t 01:19, 27 January 2014 (UTC)