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Re : Bantuan

Okay, I will try to expand it as much as I can after doing some work on other article. — иz нίpнόp ^ʜᴇʟᴘ! 14:55, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

George C. Prendergast (2) listed at Redirects for discussion

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Article for Creation - Boris Bidjan Saberi

Hello,

I am writing regarding my proposed article for creation, 'Boris Bidjan Saberi', which was not accepted. I was wondering why this was and what I can do to have it better fit the community guidelines.

Thank you,

Zakirmaq — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zakirmaq (talk • contribs) 14:34, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

VE newsletter

Hey Arctic Kangaroo. The newest updates:

• Links now don't extend over space/punctuation/workbreaks when you type (bugzilla:51463)
• Users with the "minoredit" preference set get working functionality (bugzilla:51515)
• You can tab to buttons in dialogs, including the save dialog (bugzilla:50047)
• We now show the <newarticletext> (or <newarticletextanon>) message as an edit notice (bugzilla:51459)
• You can scroll dialog panels like in transclusions' templates' parameter listings (bugzilla:51739)
• Templates that only create meta-data and no display content at all (like Template:Use dmy dates) now can't be deleted accidentally or deliberately, but still don't show up (bugzilla:51322)
• FlaggedRevisions integration (bugzilla:49699)
• Edit summary will get the section title pre-added if you launched from a section edit link (bugzilla:50872)

Along with some miscellaneous language support fixes. That's all for today; as always, let us know if you spot more bugs. Thanks, Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 22:05, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

A proposal

Good morning Arctic Kangaroo. I have a proposal for you.

A year or two ago I knew someone very like you, who was in quite a lot of trouble due to image copyright problems and other problems on Wikipedia. Their name was (or is now) User:Thine Antique Pen. They were blocked once or twice, and banned from certain things, and so on. With an adoption program, and lots of time, they moved past this, and they are now a respected and prolific editor (and are not now banned from anything).

Thine Antique Pen has agreed to go through the same adoption program with you - if you agree to do so - with me monitoring and helping as necessary. It won't fix all of the problems that you currently have, but it will help a little.

Let me know if you think it's a good idea. Don't expect things to happen quickly. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 02:04, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

Sure of course. You are a trusted editor. But it's got nothing to do with normal adoption, right? ✉→Arctic Kangaroo←✎ 13:41, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

(Trusted by whom? :-) )

There's no real technical definition of how "mentoring" differs from WP:ADOPTION. On some occasions, one editor has adopted a certain editor, and in addition I have also been mentoring that same editor - at the same time. I use the same course for both mentoring and adoption. (It has a series of lessons, with questions on each lesson.)

If you prefer to call it mentoring rather than adoption, that's fine. (It also means no need for the "adopted by" userboxes and all that.) It probably makes more sense that way because, interestingly, you actually have more edits than me. Although TAP has about as many edits as both of us put together. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 14:51, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

Then let's get the ball rolling. ✉→Arctic Kangaroo←✎ 14:54, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

I have created your mentoring/adoption page here, where all of the necessary details should be found. Thine Antique Pen (talk) 15:46, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

I'm already under adoption... ✉→Arctic Kangaroo←✎ 15:49, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

By Rcsprinter123. I actually thought this proposal was some kind of special copyright/licensing course... ✉→Arctic Kangaroo←✎ 15:50, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

OK, thanks for pointing this out. This means we'll need to rethink the course side of this. But it also brings some other things to light, specifically that you seem to have been given not very good advice. More on this later. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 15:59, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

I've commented here. There is no need for you to reply there at present. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 16:28, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

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A bowl of strawberries for you!

Dear Arctic Kangaroo: I have come across several of your more recent reviews when the articles were resubmitted and I want to compliment you on how specific you are being in your comments. I'm sure the submitters appreciate it. Keep it up! —Anne Delong (talk) 20:48, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

Thanks Anne. Too bad, I can't review any AfC submissions for now, since there is a discussion at ANI about an AfC topic ban on me. Feel free to comment there if you want to. Anyway, I see that CAT:AFC's gonna hit a backlog soon, but I'm glad that those reviewers (especially Dodger67 and Minna) are doing their best to keep it down. Even if I'm not going to get a topic ban, I can't be at AfC anyway. The haze is back in Indonesia and Malaysia, and the haze just returned to Singapore tonight! Have already been busy with it in the past few days. I probably will be busy with the article whenever the haze returns, and it can be anytime until October. Cheers. ✉→Arctic Kangaroo←✎ 15:01, 26 July 2013 (UTC)

Geo Swan

I think this would be a good time for you to stop posting on Geo Swan's talk page, as things do not seem to be improving there.

In passing, I would note that Mattbuck can't block you on the English Wikipedia (though he could presumably block you on Commons). Spending time telling him about your opinion of him is probably not useful. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 14:54, 27 July 2013 (UTC)

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Hello AK, this is just to formally let you know that I have closed the discussion at AN/I. The result is that the community has banned you for three months from the limited field of making decisions (accept/reject) at AfC. As suggested during the AN/I discussion, there is no ban on you continuing to learn and develop, indeed I see that you have already signed up to this program and would encourage you to participate. Please in future, do consider accepting advice and guidance from more experienced editors at an earlier stage. Nobody wants to be banned or blocked, and it's much nicer all round for guidance to be graciously accepted rather than forced unwillingly upon someone! Good luck. Kim Dent-Brown ^(Talk) 08:19, 29 July 2013 (UTC)

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User:Arctic Kangaroo/Blacklisted users & WP:POLEMIC

Hello, Arctic Kangaroo! Regarding User:Arctic Kangaroo/Blacklisted users and User:Arctic Kangaroo#Blacklisted users (by me), please read WP:POLEMIC.

• Polemical statements unrelated to Wikipedia, or statements attacking or vilifying groups of editors, persons, or other entities (these are generally considered divisive and removed, and reintroducing them is often considered disruptive).
• Material that can be viewed as attacking other editors, including the recording of perceived flaws. The compilation of factual evidence (diffs) in user subpages, for purposes such as preparing for a dispute resolution process, is permitted provided it will be used in a timely manner.
• Users should generally not maintain in public view negative information related to others without very good reason. Negative evidence, laundry lists of wrongs, collations of diffs and criticisms related to problems, etc., should be removed, blanked, or kept privately (i.e., not on the wiki) if they will not be imminently used, and the same once no longer needed.

I'm afraid your blacklist is going to result in another AN/I thread and really could lead to additional sanctions per WP:CIR and WP:NOTHERE. To minimize the damage, it is most likely in your best interest to remove the section from your userpage and tag your subpage for speedy deletion with {{db-author}}. I say this with your best interests in mind, so please do not dismiss this offhandedly. Rgrds. --64.85.214.57 (talk) 16:11, 30 July 2013 (UTC)

Hi AK, I suggest you follow the advice above as soon as you are editing again. As I hinted further up this page, getting into this sort of battle with other editors is not going to lead anywhere good. (Clearer: it is likely to lead to you being blocked, regardless of whether that's fair or unfair.) Lists of users with whom you are unhappy does not help to improve the encyclopedia in any way. I guess you are away at the moment, and I hope you will deal with this promptly when you return. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 18:50, 30 July 2013 (UTC)

I agree that this blacklist is a bad idea likely to lead to unnecessary drama and would say getting rid of it voluntarily is the best course of action. Huon (talk) 18:52, 30 July 2013 (UTC)

• Thanks for fixing this! --Demiurge1000 (talk) 20:19, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
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Hello. There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. AndyTheGrump (talk) 16:22, 1 August 2013 (UTC)

I hope you take the time to respond and offer your point of view. The case is missing your voice. Newjerseyliz (talk) 00:51, 2 August 2013 (UTC)

He seems to take many hours off editing each day (or days). Maybe more people should do that. He hasn't edited since before this new and exciting "ANI" notification was left here. I've left some additional thoughts for him on my own talk page in the meantime. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 01:00, 2 August 2013 (UTC)

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I've looked, and I can't find any evidence for this person being appointed as manager of Johor Darul Takzim F.C.

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Indef block (was "Topic ban, and postponed indef block")

AK,

As an uninvolved admin, I've reviewed the ANI thread. There are a few things that need to be crystal clear:

1. You are topic banned from uploading any more media to Wikipedia or Commons. If you upload any more media before this topic ban is removed, you will be blocked indefinitely. I would usually not threaten a block for doing something on Commons, but this is a special case. You still have a very obvious misunderstanding of licensing, and that lack of understanding has sucked up a lot of other people's time and attention. I will attempt to explain more clearly in a while, but I need to get this summary down first.

2. There is a very clear consensus to indef block you as well. I'm going against consensus and declining to do that. Another admin may see it differently, and if they choose to block you, I cannot fight it. So keep in mind that comments I make about what you need to do to stay unblocked may be moot, if another admin decides to follow the very clear consensus at ANI.

3. I will explain in a little while what you'll need to do to stay unblocked, but a sneak preview is: keep your head down, don't do anything remotely controversial, and be constantly aware that there is, evidently, only one stupid admin standing between you and an indef block. You've used up your 9 lives, and half of a 10th.

More in a while. --Floquenbeam (talk) 21:36, 2 August 2013 (UTC)

One of the biggest reasons people think you should be indef blocked is that you don't appear to understand how licensing works; the same theory applies to images and to text.

There is a message when you edit that indicates you accept the CC-BY-SA license (there was also such a message when you upload images). You may have been aware of it before, but you can't claim to be unaware of it now. So I'd like you to confirm, before you edit anymore:

Do you acknowledge that all text you contribute to any Wikimedia project is automatically licensed CC-BY-SA, and cannot be revoked, ever?

--Floquenbeam (talk) 21:47, 2 August 2013 (UTC)

One last thing before I let you digest this: one of the main reasons I declined to block is I wanted to slow this discussion down; to be honest, I'd recommend you take some time before you respond. A lot of what you've said in the last day is, I hope, due to adrenaline. Let's keep calm, and take it slow, OK? --Floquenbeam (talk) 22:04, 2 August 2013 (UTC)

I'm really sorry, Arctic Kangaroo, I know this looks like I'm pulling the rug out from under you, and I feel bad doing it, but due to some new information that has been emailed to me, I can no longer support keeping you unblocked while I try to help you through some of these complications. I'm blocking you, not because of this email, but because of the clear consensus for it at ANI. The email comes into it only because it is a factor against me bending the rules and ignoring consensus to allow you to continue editing here.

I'm not comfortable discussing this on-wiki, and since it isn't a factor in the block rationale, I don't think I need to. Also, I don't really want to talk with you about it by email. I've emailed the pertinent info to ArbCom; if you need to email someone, they're the people to contact. Special:Emailuser/ArbCom. I'm also suggesting in the block log that ArbCom be contacted before an unblock, and I've removed your talk page access.

Sorry. --Floquenbeam (talk) 23:00, 2 August 2013 (UTC)

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Blocked? WTF?

Kangaroo, WTF? I just noticed the discussion at ANI and the entire licensing saga. Reading your comments there I was very surprised. I don't know you to act like that and I'm really sorry this has escalated completely out of control. Resulting in a block, no less. I wish you contacted me before this got out of hand, maybe I could have helped you understand the issues better. I'm really sorry to see you go. Take care, Yintan  07:15, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

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When will the kangaroo make a comeback?

I urge you to appeal against your indef block... Us sapiens make mistakes, undeniably. Undoubtedly you were (I mean are) a great Wikipedian and it was because of such a slip-up that resulted in your demise. Hope to see your return in the near future. I'm anticipating it. Good luck in your endeavours, present or future. Take care Arctic, ☯ Bonkers The Clown \(^_^)/ Nonsensical Babble ☯ 11:07, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

Well, it's an ArbCom block, with talk page access revoked, so I doubt we'll know any more before they are unblocked, if that ever happens. Mdann52 (talk) 16:16, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

I've seen Arbcom blocks like this before ... you'll need to email arbcom to get a response. If you explain you're a close friend of AK, they might tell you, or they might just give you a holding response like "he is indefinitely blocked due to sensitive information that came to our attention". I don't mean to be oblique but sometimes there's stuff the WMF and Arbcom just can't tell you, and it's best to just accept that. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 17:43, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

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VisualEditor newsletter for 21 August 2013

Both VisualEditor and MediaWiki were upgraded recently. For VisualEditor, this is the long-awaited post-Wikimania update with many bug fixes and enhancements. Work also continues on speed at opening and during use, as well as on the bugs reported here and at other Wikipedias. The full report is at Mediawiki.

References are displaying properly, even when nested (T52749) or in image captions (T2000. Reference lists are now always fully populated with references (bug 50094). Firefox users can insert an existing reference in the first paragraph (T54159). Opera users no longer see corruption of categories when a reference was added (bug 50385).

Stray spaces are being stripped from the start of paragraphs to end one of the common <nowiki> problems (T53462). We also fixed a round-tripping bug that caused desirable whitespace in templates (used to make templates more legible, e.g., by putting each parameter in an infobox on a separate line) to get corrupted (bug 51150).

Wikilink handling was improved. Users are not allowed to create internal links to invalid titles (titles that are actually impossible due to limits on acceptable character combinations in titles, not redlinks) (T35094). You can extend wikilinks, but it won't do so over a wordbreak (like a space) (bugs 49931 and 51463).

A handful of fixes to the user interface were made. The toolbar doesn't float over personal tools after opening a dialog or the inspector (T54441). Toolbars were also re-written to be collapsible/expandable, with room for more icons. Buttons in dialogs can now be activated using the Tab ↹ and ⇧ Shift+Tab ↹ key commands (bug 50047). This saves time for editors, because you don't need to take your hands off the keyboard to click a button. We fixed a handful of bugs that affected only certain articles or certain browsers, including toolbar buttons in Firefox (bug 51986) and dialog panels that didn't always scroll correctly (bug 51739). Bugs with undo/redo getting confused have been fixed (T54113).

Images, in addition to getting references displaying correctly, also saw improvements with a set-empty |link= parameter no longer corrupted (51963). We corrected thumbnail images' display so that they look don't wrong in some contexts (bug 51995). Inserted images no longer explicitly set their alignment, but instead inherit the default position in compliance with the Manual of Style (bug 51851).

More edit notices, warnings, and metadata like information about Pending Changes on an article now appear as appropriate (bug 49699). When new articles are created, users are now shown the <newarticletext> message (bug 51459). VisualEditor now handles templates that set "meta" items (like a category) and nothing else better (bug 51322). If the database is locked when a user tries to save with VisualEditor, they now get a message telling them as such and an opportunity to try again, rather than a silent failure (bug 51636).

When you save the page, having the default preference set to "mark all my edits as minor by default" no longer overrides the setting in the save dialog (bug 51515). If you open VisualEditor from a section edit link, the section's title will be pre-filled in in the edit summary box when you go to save it (bug 50872). The size of the save dialog box in the Monobook skin has been fixed (bug 50058). Also, wikipage content handlers like sortable tables are re-run automatically after saving (T53565).

A very early version of the mathematics equation editor is now available for testing on mw:Mediawiki. If you would like to help improve the user interface for math editor, please test out the extension at mw:Mediawiki:Sandbox and leave your comments directly at the discussion page for the Math Node User Interface at Mediawiki. You should be able to use your regular username and password should to login to Mediawiki.

For other questions or suggestions, or if you encounter problems, please let everyone know by posting problem reports at Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback and other ideas at Wikipedia talk:VisualEditor. Thank you! Whatamidoing (WMF) 17:42, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

CVUA

Just a note: I removed you as an instructor at WP:CVUA per your block. If and when you are unblocked and wish to continue instructing, you can address that then. Thanks, theonesean 04:09, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

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Your article submission Geylang International

Hello Arctic Kangaroo. It has been over six months since you last edited your article submission, entitled Geylang International.

The page will shortly be deleted. If you plan on editing the page to address the issues raised when it was declined and resubmit it, simply and remove the {{db-afc}} or {{db-g13}} code. Please note, however, that Articles for Creation is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace.

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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. HasteurBot (talk) 11:22, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

VisualEditor newsletter for September 5

This Thursday's VisualEditor update was mostly about stability and performance improvements, and some preparatory work for major planned improvements, along with bug fixes for non-English language support and right-to-left text. Everything that the English Wikipedia received today has been running on Mediawiki for a week already.

Officially, the problem with the link inspector not linking to a specific section on a page (bug 53219) was fixed in this release, although that critical patch actually appeared here earlier.

A number of bugs related to copy-and-paste functionality were fixed (48604, bug 50043, bug 53362, bug 51538, among others). Full rich copy-and-paste from external sources into VisualEditor is expected "soon".

In other fixes, you can no longer add empty ref tags (<ref/>) (bug 53345). Selecting both an image and some text, and then trying to add a link, previously deleted the selected image and the text. This was fixed in bug 50127. There was another problem related to using arrow keys to move the cursor next to an inline image that was fixed (bug 53507).

Looking ahead: The next planned upgrade is scheduled for next Thursday, and you should expect to find a redesigned toolbar with drop-down menus that include room for references, templates, underline, strikethrough, superscript, subscript, and code formatting. There will also be keyboard shortcuts for setting the format (paragraph vs section headings).

If you are active at other Wikipedias, the next group of Wikipedias to have VisualEditor offered to all users is being determined at this time. Generally speaking, languages that depend on the input method editor are not going to receive VisualEditor this month. The current target date is Tuesday, September 24 for logged-in users only. You can help with translating the documentation. In several cases, most of the translation is already done, and it only needs to be copied over to the relevant Wikipedia. If you are interested in finding out whether a particular Wikipedia is currently on the list, you can leave a message for me at my talk page.

For other questions or suggestions, or if you encounter problems, please let everyone know by posting problem reports at Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback and other ideas at Wikipedia talk:VisualEditor. Thank you! Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 21:46, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/K Ravindra ‎

The article I have created is

Not Original research 1. Article is based on third party published book by reputed writer "Vijay Kumar Dev" (Can be searched on internet by typing "Ravindra Aur Rekhankan") 2. Artist biography is published on Government APS University Rewa doctoral research book : "Vindya Kshetra Ke Parihar" by Dr Anupam Singh. 3. Third reference is also from third Party organization "kavitakosh.org"

Notability Many short introductions and book covers are available on Hindi rhetoric books, for example 1. Bodhi Prakashan (ISBN : 978-93-82452-37-9, Page 6),(ISBN : 978-93-82452-67-6, Page 8) 2. Published copy of Interviews on reputed newspaper is available.

submission http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Bruno_Solnik

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Bruno_Solnik http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Solnik&oldid=563193969&diff=prev

Dear Artic Kangaroo

Firs,t all my apologies for disturbing your peace, I am new to wikipedia. I have spent dozens of hours trying to edit the article on Bruno Solnik trying to provide proper references. I do not understand what is wrong. I searched hours before disturbing you. All the references provided are from official websites of; - HKUST (Hong Kong University of Science and Technology)a leading university in Asia (often regarded as among the top 5 by many rankings). All documents posted by the university are verified by HKUST before posting. I can see that most academic authors also use university websites to authenticate. - other official websites of the Financial Times and CFA Institute.

Every single information is verified in these public websites from reputable institutions.

I am not saying that I did not make a mistake. But it would be useful if you could point to my error. I have checked numerous other wikipedia biographies and could not find where I erred.

Many thanks Solnik

Reliable sources???

Hello,

I submitted an article by the name of Zainab Chottani, a well known designer in Pakistan. But my article was rejected on grounds that my sources were not reliable. The sources I used were newspapers and fashion magazines. What else is needed?

Jordan Older notability satisfied according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_(sports)#Association_football

Dear Artic Kangaroo,

Sorry to bother you and thanks for your time.

When this player was playing the Internet was not widley in use so there are not good records from this time available online, espcially in Brazil and Europe where mainstream use of the Internet lagged domestic(USA) use. However, there are 3 links that fully satisfy Wikipedia rules notability in Association Football, proving the subject's notability.

1) One of the top sports news agency's in Brazil states the names of the teams and the dates and every Brazilian soccer fan knows these famous teams. This is the most recent objective evidence from a reputable 3rd party news source that is entirely independent of the subject, but you have to use Google translate. This proof is much better than 90% of the proof used for thousands of other soccer player articles published on Wikipedia, alone. http://www.futebolinterior.com.br/news/259995+Ex-jogador_vira_empresario_e_comeca_a_ganhar_espaco_no_futebol (Portuguese language - use translator)

2) http://uslpro.uslsoccer.com/stats/23496.html States that the subject satisfies the Wikipedia rules of notability via Association football by having appeared in a in a fully professional league "USL Professional Division [87]. (USSF Division 2 Professional League, USL First Division and USL Second Division". This is This is tricky because the team has changed leagues and is no longer in existence.

3) http://www.lsk.se/default.asp?do=game_details&gameID=1111 The official web site for professional Swedish 1st division team states clearly that the subject played in the top league in Brazil. (Swedish language - use translator)

There are a few other reputable, 3rd party citations/links which prove the notability of the subject and the statements made. The main problem here is that the Internet was not in use during the time the subject played, but this shouldn't matter since we have the current news article from the one of the top soccer news agencies in Brazil which fully corroborates all statements.

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FOUR STEPS TO PROOF OF NOTABILITY CHAIN OF PROOF LOGIC MORE THAN FULLY SATISFYING WIKIPEDIA RULES

1) "Players who have appeared ... in a fully professional league"

2) "list of fully professional leagues"

3) "USL Professional Division"

4) http://uslpro.uslsoccer.com/stats/23496.html (official USL Pro game stat showing subject has satisfied Wikipedia rules of notability and is entirely independent of the subject)

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:IRS#Definition_of_a_source ooooooooooooo"News reporting from well-established news outlets is generally considered to be reliable for statements of fact" oooooooooo

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_(sports)#Association_football

Association football[edit] Shortcuts: WP:NFOOTBALL WP:NFOOTY WP:NSOCCER

1. Association football (soccer) figures are presumed notable if they meet the following: Players, managers and referees who have represented their country in any FIFA sanctioned senior international match (including the Olympics) are notable as they have achieved the status of participating at the highest level of football. The notability of these is accepted as they would have received significant coverage as outlined above in the general notability criteria. 2. Players who have appeared, and managers who have managed, in a fully professional league, will generally be regarded as notable. oooooooooooSee a list of fully professional leagues kept by WikiProject Football.ooooooooooo Note: A player who signs for a domestic team but has not played in any games is not deemed to have participated in a competition, and is therefore not generally regarded as being notable. Youth players are not notable unless they satisfy one of the statements above, or if they can be shown to meet the wider requirements of WP:GNG.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Football/Fully_professional_leagues#Men.27s_leagues_2

USA – Major League Soccer [17]; North American Soccer League [18] (inaugural season in 2011); USL Professional Division [87]. (USSF Division 2 Professional League, USL First Division and USL Second Division [88], and North American Soccer League [89] were also fully pro leagues, but are now defunct).

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http://uslpro.uslsoccer.com/stats/23496.html

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inquiry on the jerome rudolph article

I received your review message, specific to the verifiability of the article. Using this article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maurice_Mitchell and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ka%27Deem_Carey as templates I do not see where the sources cited are any less credible. Are there certain portions considered too detailed that should be cut out?

Historical precedence says that these particular sources i.e. Patriotleague.org which is a peer insitution of pac12.com and the Mitchell article cites the FSU seminole website similarly to the Lafayette Leopard cite being cited. Should I trim certain specifics?

1st Article : Thierry Dreyfus Rejected -> How to improve ?

Hi,

My first article on Thierry Dreyfus was rejected because it was said to be an advertisement.

Even though it is not true, I really do want to improve my article so that it can published. Since it is you who said it was an ad, could you please tell me why you thought so ?

By advance, thanks.

Bests,

Emilie http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Thierry_Dreyfus Arctic-

RE: The Ben Schwartz page, If I remove the Chicago Mercantile Exchange Committees, will you approve? Or can you please direct me to the section you are referring to about lacking sources? Thanks!

Chris

Hi, I'm trying to seek some clarification as to why my recent contribution/article was denied. Here is the link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Michael_Gerhardt

Thanks.

Review an article / 1st article / Thierry Dreyfus / Artist designer

Hi,

I have made a some changes to the article because it had been rejected in first place (not objective, advertising, etc).

Could you please tell me if it's better now ?

Thx

Emilie

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_creation/Thierry_Dreyfus

VisualEditor newsletter for September 19, 2013

VisualEditor has been updated twice in the last two weeks. As usual, what is now running on the English Wikipedia had a test run at Mediawiki during the previous week.

As announced, the toolbar was redesigned to be simpler, shorter, and to have the ability to have drop-down groups with descriptions. What you see now is the initial configuration and is expected to change in response to feedback from the English Wikipedia and other Wikipedias. The controls to add <u> (underline), <sub> (subscript), and <sup> (superscript), <s> (strikethrough) and <code> (computer code/monospace font) annotations to text are available to all users in the drop-down menu. At the moment, all but the most basic tools have been moved into a single drop-down menu, including the tools for inserting media, references, reference lists, and templates. The current location of all of the items in the toolbar is temporary, and your opinions about the best order are needed! Please offer suggestions at Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback/Toolbar.

In an eagerly anticipated upgrade to the reference dialog, newly added references or reference groups no longer need the page to be saved before they can be re-used (bugs 51689 and 52000). The 'Use existing reference' button is now disabled on pages which don't yet have any references (bug 51848). The template parameter filter in the transclusion dialog now searches both parameter name and label (bug 51670).

In response to several requests, there are some new keyboard shortcuts. You can now set the block/paragraph formatting from the keyboard: Ctrl+0 sets a block as a regular paragraph; Ctrl+1 up to Ctrl+6 sets it as a Heading 1 ("Page title") to Heading 6 ("Sub-heading 4"); Ctrl+7 sets it as pre-formatted (bug 33512). Ctrl+2, which creates level 2 section headings, may be the most useful.

Some improvements were made to capitalization for links, so typing in "iPhone" will offer a link to "iPhone" as well as "IPhone" (bug 50452).

Copying and pasting within the same document should work better as of today's update, as should copying from VisualEditor into a third-party application (bug 53364, bug 52271, bug 52460). Work on copying and pasting between VisualEditor instances (for example, between two articles) and retaining formatting when copying from an external source into VisualEditor is progressing.

Major improvements to editing with input method editors (IMEs; mostly used for Indic and East Asian languages) are being deployed today. This is a complex change, so it may produce unexpected errors. On a related point, the names of languages listed in the "languages" (langlinks) panel in the Page settings dialog now display as RTL when appropriate (bug 53503).

Looking ahead: The help/'beta' menu will soon expose the build number next to the "Leave feedback" link, so users can give more specific reports about issues they encounter (bug 53050). This change will make it easier for developers to identify any cacheing issues, once it starts reporting the build number (currently, it says "Version false"). Also, inserting a link, reference or media file will put the cursor after the new content again (bug 53560). Next week’s update will likely improve how dropdowns and other selection menus behave when they do not fit on the screen, with things scrolling so the selected item is always in view.

If you are active at other Wikipedias, the next group of Wikipedias to have VisualEditor offered to all users is being finalized. About two dozen Wikipedias are on the list for Tuesday, September 24 for logged-in users only, and on Monday, September 30 for unregistered editors. You can help with translating the documentation. In several cases, most of the translation is already done, and it only needs to be copied over to the relevant Wikipedia. If you are interested in finding out whether a particular Wikipedia is currently on the list, you can leave a message for me at my talk page.

For other questions or suggestions, or if you encounter problems, please let everyone know by posting problem reports at Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback and other ideas at Wikipedia talk:VisualEditor. Thank you! Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 21:48, 19 September 2013 (UTC)