User talk:Geo Swan/archive/2017-10

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Misuse of edit summaries/Your attitude towards others

First off, marking edits as vandalism where no vandalism exists is EXTREMELY serious. Please stop this practice. You had added redlinked articles to a list that clearly states (in bold) that the list is to only contain notable people. Secondly, your condescending attitude towards anyone who disagrees with you is troubling and makes me think you need to re-read the basis of how to collaborate on Wikipedia. Please stop talking down to myself and anyone else who does not agree with you, this is a personal attack on my talk page. Remember, this is not a news paper nor a collection of all information ever. You MUST collaborate instead of insulting others on here. CommotioCerebri (talk) 16:24, 2 October 2017 (UTC)

• CommotioCerebri made a total of 55 edits -- at least using that ID. Only 12 of those edits were not targeting my contributions. ICommotioCerebri left five separate requests to quit wikistalking, on their talk page. After my last request they requested the CommotioCerebri ID be obfuscated. Individuals can request WP:Courtesy blanking, but those who perform this are not obliged to agree, and I think are supposed to decline when the request has a terrible record -- as CommotioCerebri did.

I've submitted a second SPI, because I think CommotioCerebri, who started as an IP contributor has returned to IP contributions, and has continued to harrass me, using those IP addresses. Geo Swan (talk) 23:06, 11 November 2017 (UTC)

Let's not have a problem

Geo Swan, please don't start following me around spewing your bullshit in every deletion discussion I start. This is obviously personal for you, so why don't you declare yourself the "winner" since Sana Dua didn't get deleted and move on? World's Lamest Critic (talk) 14:48, 4 October 2017 (UTC)

• Voicing a civil expression of disagreement is not, to use your term "spewing bullshit". Nor is it a personal attack. Sadly, one does encounter wikipedia contributors who do conflate dissagreement, voicing questions, etc, as a personal attack. Don't be one of those people.
• I find your use of the term "winner" here alarming. When I enter a discussion I do my best to give fair consideration to the possibility that those who disagree with me are making valid points. I do my best to acknowledge valid points made by those I disagree with. I did so in the AFD on Sana Dua. Maybe you didn't read my reply closely enough to notice? If I engage in a discussion, I take the counterarguments to my arguments seriously, and if I find they convinced me, I do not regard this making me a "loser".

  Can you please tell me that your use of the term "winner" does not mean you will keep trying to see your original positions in discussions "win", even if it becomes obvious your original position was weak, poorly thought out, or just plain wrong? Geo Swan (talk) 15:45, 5 October 2017 (UTC)

Geo Swan, I put winner in quotation marks because I felt like the discussion had become personal to you and that "winning" had become more important to you than whether or not the article should be deleted. World's Lamest Critic (talk) 16:05, 5 October 2017 (UTC)

Ahmad Shawkat

 Done - User:Geo Swan/Ahmad Shawkat. GiantSnowman 10:24, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

Jean-Claude Boton

Hi Geo Swan. As you requested, I have restored this article and moved it to userspace at User:Geo Swan/Jean-Claude Boton. Let me know if you need anything else. Cheers. --Mojo Hand (talk) 14:25, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

Pakistanis and Afghans released since 2009...

After a fist look there have been no Pakistanis released from Guantanamo, since 2009.

Could there have been Afghans, released since 2009, who could be mistaken for Pakistanis, as it is a very loose border...

Geo Swan (talk) 16:50, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

suspects

I looked at the Pakistanis and it doesn't look like any of them are good candidates. Here are some (incomplete) files with my rough work.

• User:Geo Swan/Pakistani weight records pointers - the non-wiki links are all to particular pages of https://web.archive.org/web/20081109191207/http://humanrights.ucdavis.edu/resources/library/documents-and-reports/gtmo_heightsweights.pdf scholars at UC Davis amalgamated all the small files the DOD published with the height and weight records. They are in numerical order, except for some out of order entries around ISN 900. About two dozen people didn't have a height listed.

• User:Geo Swan/Pakistani weight records -- I listed the height of every Pakistani who was over 68 inches tall. The only Pakistani to be released during the right period is Hafez Qari Mohamed Saad Iqbal Madni, the former child prodigy, who appeared on the Arabic show that celebrates kids who can recite the whole Koran. But he is only 65 inches.
• User:Geo Swan/Afghans repatriated from Guantanamo 2007 to 2012 -- relatively few Afghans, in this period. In 2007 the DoD spent a huge whack of money to add a new wing to a huge maximum security prison the Soviets built. This American wing could house several hundred captives. It was staffed by Afghan guards trained, equipped and paid by the USA. It had a courtroom built in. Prior to its opening repatriated Afghans were all just let go -- catch and release. After its 2007 opening all Afghan captives were transferred here, to "stand trial". So your guy could have been transferred as early as 2007, and spent several years in Pul-e-Charkhi, and still been truthful when he said he spent 9 years in US custody. Being in the American wing of Pul-e-Charkhi was only nominally in Afghan custody.

I'll keep working on this.

Of coursr I have been following the news, and you guys remain in my thoughts.

Cheers! Geo Swan (talk) 13:38, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

Conflict of interest - Kidnapping_of_Joshua_Boyle_and_Caitlan_Coleman

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Thank you, CommotioCerebri (talk) 14:32, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

• I didn't start the article on Joshua Boyle. While I did make close to two dozen edits to it, [1], [2], [3], [4], [5], they were all edits to the article's references, and none were to the article's actual content. I believe this means I was not making edits that lapsed from compliance with COI.

• CommotionCerebri is a wikistalker. Almost all of their edits are either reversions of my edits, or comments about my contributions. I warned them, several times, that wikistalking is frowned upon. Yet, they still keep using this wiki-ID to stalk me. Geo Swan (talk) 21:37, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

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