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Latest comment: 11 years ago by Kailash29792 in topic Galatta

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Hi, you add this source a couple of days ago, citing The Hindu of that date. The link does not work, I can find no article of that title using the paper's search engine, and it is not on the Wayback archiving system. Did you get the url wrong? Given that it is so recent, the thing will have to be removed unless we can fix this quickly because The Hindu don't usually shift things around anything like so soon after they have published a story. - Sitush (talk) 01:45, 26 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

The article has been removed according to The Hindu website, the categories are still listed. I leave it to you, how to deal with it. Regards, --Dravidianhero (talk) 01:53, 26 December 2012 (UTC)Reply
OH, that's a shame. I'll have another look around their website just in case they have moved it to another headline title etc. - Sitush (talk) 01:56, 26 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

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Fictive Policy??

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What is so fictive about the policy that are you talking about here and here? Have you gone through the consensus? Please do so!  Abhishek  Talk 16:50, 9 January 2013 (UTC)Reply

He cited a red link, so I thought, it might be a deleted policy. Thanks for the links. Regards, --Dravidianhero (talk) 16:57, 9 January 2013 (UTC)Reply
Hmmm. It would have been a typo. So you should have just left him a note seeking explanation.  Abhishek  Talk 17:10, 9 January 2013 (UTC)Reply
Mispelling in two cases seems unrealistic to be honest.--Dravidianhero (talk) 17:15, 9 January 2013 (UTC)Reply
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Mahesh Babu

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Hello, i have seen your edits to the Mahesh Babu article. The content you have removed have citations and is not entirely useless. If you think the lead section doesn't need to specify the brand endorsements, then use that cited content and create a new section called "brand endorsements". I believe that many people would be interested in reading about his endorsement deals. Also about the Times of India survey, i don't agree with your reasoning for deleting the content. I think that TOI is very well known in India and about the survey being online, it is the most common way how such surveys are conducted. Again, if you think it's not "leadworthy", then make sure you put it somewhere in the article. I believe that deleting well cited content doesn't really help the article and for that reason i have reverted your edits. Please let me know your thoughts on this. Thanks and have a nice day. krZna (talk) 03:04, 21 January 2013 (UTC)Reply

Hello Krzna. I saw your change by making a separate section, and I think it's the best solution. The survey is mentioned in the section 2011–present, and my point was not, that TOI has no credibility, but that the survey itself can't taken to be representative for all Indians, as they are still many Indians, who have no internet access.--Dravidianhero (talk) 09:19, 21 January 2013 (UTC)Reply

vishwaroopam controversy

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Hi, can u pls complete the DTH controversy of Vishwaroopam? The paragraph appears incomplete. Kailash29792 (talk) 05:35, 24 January 2013 (UTC)Reply

made a result update.--Dravidianhero (talk) 10:24, 24 January 2013 (UTC)Reply
Hi, thanks for creating an article on the film's controversies. i guess we better start expanding it to the maximum... Kailash29792 (talk) 15:50, 31 January 2013 (UTC)Reply
Pls update the article completely. User:Snigdhasinghsweet has "accidentally" removed some info from it. Kailash29792 (talk) 12:03, 4 February 2013 (UTC)Reply
Could you show me diffs for the same of the user. I'm a bit clueless.--Dravidianhero (talk) 15:24, 4 February 2013 (UTC)Reply
Never mind, i think she's started fixing it. anyway, pls check for any mistakes from here [1] onwards... BTW, the article on Controversies related to Vishwaroopam appears a bit too outdated. ---- Kailash29792 (talk) 16:58, 4 February 2013 (UTC)Reply
the ban on Vishwaroopam in malaysia has been lifted. i'd like this info to be added to both the main and controversies article as well. Kailash29792 (talk) 15:34, 23 February 2013 (UTC)Reply
Done. -- Dravidian  Hero  15:59, 23 February 2013 (UTC)Reply
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review Raja is that a professional critic? you must be kidding. critics who write for newspapers and notable sites are professional critics. If not me someone else will remove it, because such amateur reviews wont be accepted. Believe me.. Karthik Selvanayagam (talk) 19:14, 27 January 2013 (UTC)Reply

Amateurish? Have you seen any of his reviews? He brings much more technical expertise than most of The Hindu or any other Online reviewers and the points are given per topic and are fully transparent. We all know the problem with paid news in India as well, he is surely not paid when he gives ratings. Let's have some sort of balance here and don't discriminate on basis of media platform.--Dravidianhero (talk) 19:27, 27 January 2013 (UTC)Reply
I would like add, that he has been invited by Canadian national television too. So he is a well known international reviewer for Tamil films.--Dravidianhero (talk) 19:35, 27 January 2013 (UTC)Reply
Of course I have seen his reviews, but you cannot consider him as professional critic. that would mean that everybody could film his opinion and become a critic. sorry bro, its really not possible. it was removed from other pages too when it was added. it will definitely be removed, I didnt make the rules bro. Karthik Selvanayagam (talk) 19:44, 27 January 2013 (UTC)Reply
Galatta is one the oldest film magazines and he is associated with them on their website, infact has an own section. Why is their website blacklisted?--Dravidianhero (talk) 20:22, 27 January 2013 (UTC)Reply
I support Galatta in being accepted by wiki as a reliable source. But I m neutral to Review Raja, though I'd prefer if he submit any written and online-published reviews as a step to become reliable. Kailash29792 (talk) 03:49, 28 January 2013 (UTC)Reply
I like review Raja's videos, but it seems its not notable enough. maybe as Kailash said, if he wrote and published his reviews it may be accepted. I don't know why Galatta is blacklisted, I dont see anything wrong in their site. Karthik Selvanayagam (talk) 10:56, 28 January 2013 (UTC)Reply
Ok, let us close the discussion about Review Raja, now that the majority of us accept him as unreliable. Talking abt Galatta, i think we can request for it to be de-blacklisted. Kailash29792 (talk) 11:10, 28 January 2013 (UTC)Reply
Thanks both of you. --Dravidianhero (talk) 12:20, 28 January 2013 (UTC)Reply
I asked for de-blacklisting referring to this discussion: Link--Dravidianhero (talk) 12:44, 28 January 2013 (UTC)Reply

added 1 word of the critics claim of Anti Islamism / Anti Muslim, as I feel critics are on both sides, 1 stating it is anti political islam & the other being Religious islam. pls correct if u feel, this is not right (Alex.mathews (talk) 08:24, 29 January 2013 (UTC))Reply

It appears that Galatta.com is still blacklisted. did anyone request for it to be removed from the list of blacklisted sites? Kailash29792 (talk) 08:30, 20 March 2013 (UTC)Reply
I did. They asked me to put exclusive content such as interviews in future requests. They didn't want to whitelist regular pages at this stage.-- Dravidian  Hero  15:31, 20 March 2013 (UTC)Reply
If you are interested, an article on the magazine Galatta Cinema can be created, for it is the "largest circulating English cinema magazine in India for South Indian movies". seeing that, wikipedia will even accept Galatta.com as reliable, for it is actually "South India’s No.1 movie portal" and it has even launched an iOS app. Kailash29792 (talk) 13:31, 31 March 2013 (UTC)Reply

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Review Raja

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I think it is time an article on Review Raja be created, for he has appeared in The Hindu paper on a high note. Pls use this source: http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/chennai/distance-language-no-barrier-for-review-raja/article4404947.ece ---- Kailash29792 (talk) 15:09, 12 February 2013 (UTC)Reply

Thanks, I will start it with joy --Dravidianhero (talk) 15:27, 12 February 2013 (UTC)Reply
I find the article well written, although informal terms like "exotic", "kollywood", "hanging out", and "movie" can be replaced with more formal terms, or at least appear in quotations. The phrase "Review Raja was born" doesn't sound formal either. Kailash29792 (talk) 15:59, 22 February 2013 (UTC)Reply

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I understand - if you are going by what articles have been posted only then that's from a media perspective only.

auro 3d

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in ur recent edits in Vishwaroopam, u wrote that it is the fourth film worldwide to utilize Auro 3D, do u hav a source for that? i actually believe it is the second, based on sources. ---- Kailash29792 (talk) 17:39, 19 February 2013 (UTC)Reply

Yes, I checked the claim of the user and it seems to be true. This would be a source regarding Rise of the Guardians: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/dreamworks-animation-rise-of-the-guardians-376720 Here is a list: Auro 11.1 -- Dravidian  Hero  17:51, 19 February 2013 (UTC)Reply

Re: Lack of pictures

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I still don't fully understand this concept of image policies on Wikipedia. All I can understand is that Non-free images (like film soundtrack images, posters, screenshots) cannot be used anywhere in any article except the infobox, and that images of people (to be out in infobox) are difficult to put because of in-understandable licensing issues. Kailash29792 (talk) 02:43, 20 February 2013 (UTC)Reply

about the mail u sent to Behindwoods, wat did they reply? Kailash29792 (talk) 18:01, 21 February 2013 (UTC)Reply

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Thought u may be interested in editing the controversies section of Paradesi. If u aren't, never mind. i'll do it, though I'm not completely good at writing professionally. Kailash29792 (talk) 03:55, 17 March 2013 (UTC)Reply

why did u remove the section instead of improving it? i am not scolding, i just wanted to know why the section removal. bcoz the reality teaser issue looked like an interesting issue to add. Kailash29792 (talk) 06:51, 18 March 2013 (UTC)Reply

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I have removed all mentions of moviecrow.com from article Thuppakki, as it appears unreliable. do u hav any reply for this? Kailash29792 (talk) 05:05, 19 March 2013 (UTC)Reply

If u still believe it is reliable, pls ask senior editors. I only say its unreliable bcoz it neither has an article on wiki, nor are the news sources well written. Kailash29792 (talk) 15:37, 19 March 2013 (UTC)Reply

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Did u know that a website's article on Wikipedia establishes its notability? Well, let us not count IMDB, Facebook, YouTube and other socializing sites, but if an article on Galatta is created, that will even have it removed from its blacklisted status. In fact, if anyone created an article on it, I'd like them to say it exists as a magazine named Galatta Cinema (claimed to be the "largest circulating English cinema magazine in India for South Indian movies") and as Galatta.com (claimed to be "South India’s No.1 movie portal"). Another fact that establishes its notability is that it has even launched an official app for Android and iOS. ---- Kailash29792 (talk) 14:23, 15 April 2013 (UTC)Reply

The notability is clearly established, but the whitelist admins didn't find it relevant enough. I told them the situation, but they unilaterally decided to leave the site blocked, until we make use of their exclusive content. But most interviews are in video format only, quite unsuitable for our standards in wikipedia.-- Dravidian  Hero  14:59, 15 April 2013 (UTC)Reply
Butting in, reached here quite serendipitously, we can cite videos, if they are from reliable sources, for example we can cite Zee News, etc. Yogesh Khandke (talk) 14:27, 1 May 2013 (UTC)Reply
Thanks alot for this highly valuable suggestion Yogesh. I guess, you arrived here by the Kwamigami case on Talk:Dravidian languages#Recent changes. I would appreciate your input there as well. Am I correct in my thinking, that Kwamis conduct is a general problem on wikipedia? Once again, thank you very much!-- Dravidian  Hero  16:28, 1 May 2013 (UTC)Reply
(You are right about how I landed here, AN/I is on my watchlist). I've been on the opposite side of Kwami in the Ganga v/s Ganges argument, and perhaps a few more where I was exasperated by his intransigence, however at one place (I think at ANI) I've stated that despite being an admin Kwami didn't use his admin powers to browbeat opposition (me) in an argument, I don't I would say that Kwami or anyone is a general problem, Wikipedia is big and there is opportunity for everyone to be useful. I am sorry if I my reply is not to your liking. Yogesh Khandke (talk) 14:10, 2 May 2013 (UTC)Reply
Why did he lose admin rights then?-- Dravidian  Hero  14:26, 2 May 2013 (UTC)Reply
That is news to me, you see I am like the proverbial blind man, I held the elephant's tail and said that he is like a rope. Yogesh Khandke (talk) 14:30, 2 May 2013 (UTC)Reply

These reliable sources mention both Galatta the magazine and Galatta.com in high light, and that clearly establishes notability of Galatta overall i think. the sources are listed as follows:

Courtesy, Kailash29792 (talk) 15:24, 3 May 2013 (UTC)Reply

Also I'm under a topic ban wrt Indian history broadly construed, so I may not be able to contribute to the discussion. Yogesh Khandke (talk) 06:22, 4 May 2013 (UTC)Reply

It looks like Galatta has been removed from blacklist? -- Dravidian  Hero  23:04, 4 May 2013 (UTC)Reply

No, it has not been removed yet. Contacting an admin and showing him the above sources may settle the matter. BTW, the last quote in Parasakthi article is unsourced, and this line "The film also had its share in giving the DMK the necessary stimulus to overthrow the Congress party in Tamil Nadu", its page in the R. Kannan book source is not provided. do u know which page it is? Kailash29792 (talk) 12:03, 5 May 2013 (UTC)Reply

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Hi. I am Pavan Jandhyala, who discussed with you regarding the merging of Naan Ee with Eega in the past. I recently observed that the poster you uploaded for the 2013 Bilingual Gouravam is bearing a tamil title. Though all the stars are of tamil origin, it is better to upload a poster bearing an english title, as it would give a universal impact and can be easily approached by both Tamil and Telugu audience. Please reply soon about your feelings regarding my message to you today. Thank you.Pavanjandhyala (talk) 13:01, 18 April 2013 (UTC)Reply

Hi Pavanjandhyala. First I wanted to ensure, that there is a poster in an Indian script, and secondly we can't be sure that we always get Roman alphabet posters. I don't like the idea of Roman alphabet posters at all to be honest. I also thought of including both language posters in the box, but this would require additional work. What you think?-- Dravidian  Hero  13:21, 18 April 2013 (UTC)Reply
It defenitely needs. But i can do it. Select a poster of your choice in Tamil. I already uploaded a poster for this movie in Telugu Wikipedia. i am giving the link below.

link : http://te.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%B0%A6%E0%B0%B8%E0%B1%8D%E0%B0%A4%E0%B1%8D%E0%B0%B0%E0%B0%82:Gouravam_poster.jpg

if you like it, give a link of the Tamil poster and i will develop it. Thank you.Pavanjandhyala (talk) 14:06, 18 April 2013 (UTC)Reply

Please use the present EN poster. Make sure the Tamil poster is in first place, then Telugu at the bottom, since there is the problem with the width of the infobox.-- Dravidian  Hero  14:13, 18 April 2013 (UTC)Reply

Alright. But i will keep Tamil Left and Telugu Right. Or else, the whole image would be longer than necessary, thus being a bit odd. Thank you.Pavanjandhyala (talk) 14:18, 18 April 2013 (UTC)Reply

I fear the width will really blow up the box, but let's see.-- Dravidian  Hero  14:26, 18 April 2013 (UTC)Reply

I did the changes. Please visit the page once.Pavanjandhyala (talk) 14:30, 18 April 2013 (UTC)Reply

as mentioned, it has a too blown up width. please try the top-bottom case.-- Dravidian  Hero  14:36, 18 April 2013 (UTC)Reply

Alright. I did the changes you prescribed. Check it.Pavanjandhyala (talk) 14:40, 18 April 2013 (UTC)Reply

change the width to 250 pixels. It should look ok.-- Dravidian  Hero  14:44, 18 April 2013 (UTC)Reply

The image's present resolution is 88x240. If i change it to 250px, it would be of 91x250. Will it be comfortable.Pavanjandhyala (talk) 14:46, 18 April 2013 (UTC)Reply

You would increase height with 91x250. I mean 250x__ or 220x__-- Dravidian  Hero  14:49, 18 April 2013 (UTC)Reply

In that case, 220x600 is the resolution that would appear finally, and i did it. But things didnt go favourably well. Check it.Pavanjandhyala (talk) 14:56, 18 April 2013 (UTC)Reply

ok, let's try 160x-- Dravidian  Hero  14:59, 18 April 2013 (UTC)Reply

A Bit better than the previous. Check it.Pavanjandhyala (talk) 15:05, 18 April 2013 (UTC)Reply

It looks perfect on my Display. It could be 5-10 px wider.-- Dravidian  Hero  15:14, 18 April 2013 (UTC)Reply

Then lets stick to this. Thanks for your co-operation.Pavanjandhyala (talk) 15:55, 18 April 2013 (UTC)Reply

Thanks to you for the work. I'll take care for the rest, when I am in the mood to do so ;) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:South_Indian-language_films I guess we have a 160px standard now, which is good-- Dravidian  Hero  16:00, 18 April 2013 (UTC)Reply

An English poster could have done to give balance to the bilingual film, and there was already one, which was removed. Kailash29792 (talk) 16:34, 18 April 2013 (UTC)Reply

Thuppakki

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I have listed the article for peer reviewing, because I find it capable of becoming a GA. Pls share ur thoughts in it if u like. Kailash29792 (talk) 16:34, 18 April 2013 (UTC)Reply

I's a very good article on first evaluation. Will give a detailed feedback.-- Dravidian  Hero  17:09, 18 April 2013 (UTC)Reply

Robert Caldwell

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Thanks for your message. I saw the reverts which you did to almost all of my edits to Robert Caldwell. Please explain the reason for each of your reverts on the talk page. I understand that Subramaniam Swami is not liked among the so called Dravidian political circles in TN but Wikipedia is about facts not opinions. Other references could have been provided if Mr Swami's article was not of your liking but whole sale revers were not warranted. Your revert of Dr. R. Nagaswamy and his book "Mirror of Tamil and Sanskrit". Which had all the citation was clearly unwarranted. I also challenge your labeling of my edits as original research. Kindly provide reasons for each and every revert on the talk page of Robert Caldwell which I have created for my edits titled "Balancing the Article with All views about Robert Caldwell".Indoscope (talk) 18:52, 19 April 2013 (UTC)Reply

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Hi. All official posters of Gaganam are almost widescreen versions. please send a widesreen unwatermarked poster of Payanam so that we can do as we did it in the case of Gouravam. Thank you.Pavanjandhyala (talk) 05:05, 20 April 2013 (UTC)Reply

Nice one. Will start the work soon.Pavanjandhyala (talk) 10:31, 20 April 2013 (UTC)Reply

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O.K. I don't know that. Raghusri (talk) 11:00, 20 April 2013 (UTC)Reply

O.K. Bro, Regarding size. Raghusri (talk) 11:06, 20 April 2013 (UTC)Reply

Claims of POV in section headings

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This has gotten completely out of hand. Regarding this edit of yours, could you tell me where on Talk:Dhanush is the discussion you refer to in your edit summary? DMacks (talk) 15:52, 20 April 2013 (UTC)Reply

I was referring to our user talkpages, sry for the confusion: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:TheRedPenOfDoom#Dhanush
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dravidianhero#descriptors_in_section_headings -- Dravidian  Hero  16:19, 20 April 2013 (UTC)Reply
I see, thank you for clarifying. DMacks (talk) 20:13, 20 April 2013 (UTC)Reply

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Soundarya Rajinikanth

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Isn't it old news that she was married to a man named Ashwin, because of which she is publicly known as Soundarya R. Ashwin? Even the posters of Kochadaiyaan show her name as the same. So pls tell me if the page can be moved or not. Kailash29792 (talk) 15:25, 21 April 2013 (UTC)Reply

Yes, that's definitely old news. I think we can move it to Soundarya R. Ashwin per WP:Common name. Her twitter self designation is also Soundarya R. Ashwin.-- Dravidian  Hero  15:40, 21 April 2013 (UTC)Reply
  Done ---- Kailash29792 (talk) 16:03, 21 April 2013 (UTC)Reply

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Through ur name, I thought u must also be interested in classical tamil films (ie, films of the dravidian era). so have u seen the film Parasakthi? the article is being under peer review, so if u like pls improve and expand it (particularly legacy and controversies). Kailash29792 (talk) 14:55, 3 May 2013 (UTC)Reply

I'll do my best. Let me clarify to you that my name has nothing to do with Dravidian politics. I infact support India (with a lot of changes to come). :p -- Dravidian  Hero  15:13, 3 May 2013 (UTC)Reply
thanks. the "reception and legacy" section must contain all the great achievements of the film, and "controversies" section has a link which can b used. BTW, i posted something important abt Galatta here (User_talk:Dravidianhero#Galatta) regarding its notability. Kailash29792 (talk) 16:01, 3 May 2013 (UTC)Reply
Yes, I'm getting into it in more detail now. Let's start Galatta cinema article later.-- Dravidian  Hero  16:13, 3 May 2013 (UTC)Reply

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Dravidian languages

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To answer ur question, if anything u r going to do is for the best and does not mislead, i think a Yes would do. Kailash29792 (talk) 18:30, 4 May 2013 (UTC)Reply

Hello Dravidianhero,

Your recent edit to the page Melayu Kingdom appears to have added incorrect information, so I have removed it for now. If you believe the information was correct, please cite a reliable source or discuss your change on the article's talk page. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. Dravidian Hero 10:33, 5 May 2013 (UTC).

In fact ther is no reliable source proving that "the term "Melayu" is [...] derived from the Tamil etymons Malai and ur, meaning "mountain" and "city, land", respectively". No linguist would support such an assertion. "Melayu" is a local, i. e. Sumatran name, that's it. To have recourse to a Tamil etymology amounts to "chercher midi à quatorze heure" as we say in French, "to look for noon at 2 pm". There is no evidence of Tamil having any influence in Sumatra. All that has been found so far is a Tamil inscription in Barus, on the western coast of Sumatra, dated 1088 AD left by merchants [2], which of course cannot be regarded as a proof of Tamil influence in Sumatra. This is why I call this claim of a Tamil etymology "Tamil nationalism" :-) Humboldt 11:21, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

Fair enough. But Ms Weighman is a geographer, not a linguist, nor an historian, archaeologist or anthropologist. I don't know about the Indian gentlemen. However, the world of academia is full of recognised specialists of the Malay World, Southeast Asia and the Austronesian world : K. Alexander Adelaar, Peter Bellwood, Robert Blust, Denys Lombard, Anthony Reid, M. C. Ricklefs, O. W. Wolters, to name a few. To my knowledge, and I am currently doing research on Indonesia, none of them ever hinted that the name "Melayu" comes from Tamil. Anyway, I don't care: either Wikipedia can become a reliable source of knowledge, or people let it become a kind of potluck where they find what they bring. I am not going to fight on that front. As a researcher, I prefer to concentrate on my own work... :-) Humboldt 13:07, 5 May 2013 (UTC)
A geographer should know, why places are named as such.

Certainly not. A geographer knows place names, that's it. You need a linguist to know where the name comes from, and an historian to know when the place was named, and why.

I agree wikipedia needs a lot of improvements, but be frank, you were not an improver either.-- Dravidian Hero 13:11, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

You're right. I was a reaction of irritation to a proliferation of Tamil-biased mentions I see in an number of Wikipedia articles regarding the Malay World, and also in various sites, for example this one: "Hindu Wonders in a Muslim Country!", the title of which itself is wrong, because Indonesia is not a "Muslim country" but a country which happens to have a Muslim majority. It has Garuda Indonesia as its flag-carrier because the country's culture borrowed a lot from India and an Indonesian Red Cross, not Red Crescent...Humboldt 16:29, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

I see no such thing in wikipedia.

There are, for example Tamil place names in Malaysia (which you have reverted) and Chola dynasty and its incredible map claiming sovereignty over the Malacca Peninsula, Borneo, Java and Sumatra, just because in 1025 AD a Chola fleet attacked Sriwijaya, which was not an "empire" as the article claims but a city of 30,000 to 50,000 inhabitants today called Palembang [3].

Most people are decent.

I have no doubt about that! :-)

You can use the signature icon of the editor, 3rd icon from left, to sign your posts.

Thank you for the tip.

Hope you contribute more on Malay topics.

To be honest, I'm tired with two other nationalisms, Indonesian and Malaysian. Correcting the non-sense many Indonesians (my parents are Indonesians) and Malaysians write in Wikipedia is an uphill battle which I have given up fighting. I have even given up doing it in the Indonesian Wikipedia! This is why I limit myself to contributing to the French Wikipedia, where you won't find Indonesian and Malaysian nationalists... :-)

Do you have any special interests?-- Dravidian Hero 17:38, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

I work within a team of French researchers whose interest is in understanding national cultures through the functioning of organisations. In a way, what we do is an anthropology of modern societies. Thank you for the discussion, --Humboldt 18:12, 5 May 2013 (UTC)