Doctor Zevago
Nomination of Boyko, Viktor Sergeyevich for deletion edit
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- Thanks for the info.Doctor Zevago (talk) 05:14, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
Good day SilkTork! Could you help me to understand my mistakes in that article? If we take a look to the Talk:Boyko,_Viktor_Sergeyevich we could see that a pair of the article's sections was removed. IMO credible independent reviews and interviews are a worthy part of article. Comment this situation please. Best Regards, Doctor Zevago (talk) 06:35, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
- Okay, SilkTork. Thank you for your answer. It is very pithy.Doctor Zevago (talk) 23:19, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
- I don't recall making any comment, though I did keep your message on my talkpage when I archived all the November messages so I could be reminded to look into the matter. I did glance at the talkpage, but was somewhat daunted by the amount of links. I will get around to looking at the matter, though you'll need to bear with me as I am not on Wikipedia much at the moment, and when I am it is just to check out information for off-Wiki activities I'm involved in, though I may make an edit here or there while I'm here! SilkTork *YES! 23:53, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
I've taken a long hard look at the article, and I'm not clear where the notability is. I checked out the sources and used a translator, and the sources to a non-Russian don't appear to be reliable under Wikipedia terms - they appear to be blogs rather than national newspapers or scholarly articles. The impression given is that this article and the Russian one (also recently created) is mainly promotional in nature, and as such would not be the sort of article we accept on Wikipedia. I looked for English language sources and found none. The "book" that Boyko has written gives the appearance of being self-published. How much do you know about this person? Would you be able to supply more information, and perhaps guide me toward a reliable source? SilkTork *YES! 15:28, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
I've looked at the article again, and I don't see a clear claim to notability. The article is about a Russian yoga teacher. Why is he notable? A number of the statements about his personal life are not supported by reliable references. We have trivial information about which schools he went to. Why would the general reader be interested in this? The article needs trimming, sourcing and copy-editing, but before doing that I'd like to hear from you why you feel the topic is notable under Wikipedia's guideline - WP:Notability. SilkTork *YES! 09:25, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
- Well that is not a problem. I need 3 to 4 days to do the work. Best Regards, Doctor Zevago (talk) 09:42, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
- So first of all I'd like to say thanks for your interest SilkTork. It was only Cullen328 who has helped me at Englsih Wikipedia at the time before now. And it seems that I've finally found the second person who is ready to share his knowledge with me. You know to be honest I'm just delighted how the current article's history develops. When I placed it for the first time, user Drmies has cut several important parts of the text saying me that it is too long. After that you are going to trim it again and at the same time you already think that it is unclear why this man deserves to be at Wikipedia. I have no choice but take it as a piece-by-piece castration of article. But when it will finally lose all its meaningful parts everybody including me will have to admit that the text contains no interesting info and should be finally killed.
- You know I didn't just decided to send you a message. Before this I read your profile and have found that you are a thinking, knowledgeable and fair person. This makes me think that your current words about the article's deletion is a result of misunderstanding I must fix.
- So sir. Please take a look at the 1st part of info I should bring to the table. If anything is uncomfortable to read, requires translation, explanation or something like this, please let me know.
- 1. Please take a look at the article's discussion page including The old version of biography that adds some important info.
- 2. discussion for deletion.
- As soon as you will read these 2 points, you let me know and I add arguments about notablity and all that will be neeeded. Thanks again for your interest. Best regards, Doctor Zevago (talk) 07:36, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
- I previously read through that material, and checked out some of the sources using an online translator. My reading led me to feel that Boyko is not notable, though he does exist and has taught yoga, and he has his personal views on yoga. That he has taught yoga to important or notable people is not in itself notable as notability is not inherited. The test of notability for the purpose of this encyclopedia, is that reliable sources have identifed a topic (or person) as notable and have written directly and significantly about the topic/person. The sources I looked at had comments by Boyko, but not much about him. Our role here on Wikipedia is not to make a case that someone should be notable, but to reflect those topics that are already acknowledged as notable.
- The way that the article has been written with detailed personal information that is not available in the sources would lead one to suppose that the main writer is Boyko or someone close to him. It is not against Wikipedia rules that someone writes about themselves, but it is frowned upon that somebody does not reveal they have a potential conflict of interest. See Wikipedia:Conflict of interest. You are not under any obligation to reveal who you are - nor am I asking you to do that. You have a right to your privacy. However, you may wish to read the guidance in WP:COI carefully, and consider disclosing any interest you have in the topic.
- Because Wikipedia is a high profile website which can be edited by anyone, we are a target for people who wish to promote themselves or their interests or their company. An account such as yours which was apparantly created for the single purpose of writing an article, and the article reads like self-promotion and contains information that only someone close to the subject would know, and where there is some serious doubt about the notability of the subject, would raise concerns. See Wikipedia:Single-purpose account.
- I like to protect the integrity of Wikipedia in order to preserve and improve its reputation. I think this project is one of the most significant achievements of modern times. Poor quality and dubious articles pull down Wikipedia's reputation. However, I am prepared to help you with the article if you can indicate Boyko's notability. Do you have a reliable source which has written directly and signifiacntly about Boyko? SilkTork *YES! 12:19, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
- Okay, thanks. I will answer inside 2 days. Doctor Zevago (talk) 14:11, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
- Sorry, I need additional 24 hours. Doctor Zevago (talk) 15:53, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
- I will end another delay inside 36 hours. Thanks. Doctor Zevago (talk) 19:51, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
So. Thanks for the patience. Let's continue. First of all I should show you notability of Boyko.
Quote: The threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth; that is, whether readers can check that material in Wikipedia has already been published by a reliable source
Quote: topic is deemed appropriate for inclusion as a standalone article if it complies with WP:NOT and has received significant coverage in reliable secondary sources.
- There is no significant coverage of Boyko in this piece. He provides some information. But nobody is writing about him. SilkTork *YES! 18:42, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
Article «Yoga has Nothing to do with Fitness!» in ru:Правда.Ру (Pravda-dot-ru)
- Link?
- The link is above: www.medpulse.ru is a part of ru:Правда.Ру. Boyko is a guest expert in this article, he is the main part of it. The source of the article is reliable. IMO, it speaks for itself.Doctor Zevago (talk) 20:25, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
It is Boyko’s interview. We see significant coverage here.
- This is better. This deals directly and in detail with Boyko. SilkTork *YES! 18:42, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
Article «Yoga in Russian» in RIA Novosti about history of yoga in Russia. Boyko is just a part of this article but this text is dedicated to the whole history of yoga in Russia.
Article «Yogins in Arms» in Kommersant
The same thing. Boyko is just a part, but this article is the whole Russia’s yoga overview.
Article «Health. Should you practise Yoga?» in Interfax with significant coverage. Boyko was summoned there as an expert. to be continued. Best regards, Doctor Zevago (talk) 07:00, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
Large audio interview with Boyko in ru:Русская служба новостей (Russian News Service).
The article in the reliable site of Interfax. Boyko was summoned as an expert.
- Search: Виктор Бойко, руководитель Московского Центра «Классическая йога», один из самых известных и уважаемых российских специалистов в данной области.
- Translation: Boyko is the founder of the Moscow Center «Classical yoga», one of the best known and most respected Russian specialists in this sphere.
To be continued. Doctor Zevago (talk) 07:22, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
Sources where Boyko is criticized
We will discuss the content of this criticism later. But now we see a very important thing in these texts. Nobody question Boyko’s notability:
Review on the book "Yoga: The Art of Communication" in "Russian magazine".
Another review. These guys call themselves Ukrainian Federation of Yoga. In reality they are just another company that takes your money for teaching you how to swear. The same thing with Iyengar Yoga, Ashtanga Vinyasa Yoga and many others. Though this thesis still needs my arguments, and they will follow later. But now you just can read a text that is written directly about Boyko.
One more review from this so called Ukrainian Federation of Yoga.
A pack of reviews written by someone Koukalev who calls his organization Saint-Petersburg School of Practical Yoga. Between his writing we see a review on Boyko’s book. Key word is "Бойко".
Book "Philosophical bases of Present Hatha Yoga Styles". A small part of this book is dedicated to criticism of Boyko’s writings. Key word is "Бойко" as usual.
Probably it is the most strange review. It is the site of the psychological and health care club. Authors make mistakes in almost every statement, but they also consider Boyko's notability.
- We see yoga-teacher named Kargopolov who wrote a book where he criticize Boyko:
http://kargopolov.spb.ru/book/volume2/part1/56-2114.html
- Search: вышеприведенное высказывание Виктора Бойко является ошибочным и неуместным.
- Translation: the mentioned saying of Boyko is an irrelevant mistake
- http://kargopolov.spb.ru/book/volume2/part1/49-2107.html
- Search: В качестве примера можно привести следующие высказывания современного учителя Йоги Виктора Бойко
- Translation: As an example one could bring to the table the following sayings of the contemporary yoga teacher Boyko
- http://kargopolov.spb.ru/book/volume2/part1/53-2111.html
- Search: Современный учитель йоги Виктор Бойко пишет… ..По моему глубокому убеждению, нормативный подход является фундаментальной ошибкой…
- Translation: Contemporary yoga teacher Boyko writes... ...I believe this approach is a fundamental mistake
TBC
Best regards, Doctor Zevago (talk) 20:25, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
- http://www.eng.vedanta.ru/library/brodov/Vasily_Brodov_Russian_Philosopher_and_Yoga_Practitioner.php
Article about one of the Soviet pioneers of yoga Vasily Brodov in the questionable (in the terms of Wikipedia) but still solid Vedanta.ru project. Boyko is a guest expert in that text.
Reviews on the book «Hidden Aspects Of Practice». It is the most important reviews on Viktor's books ever: their authors are professor Brodov, professor Vein and doctor of medical sciences Vishrskaya.
TBC
Best regards, Doctor Zevago (talk) 21:46, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
Quote: Research should include attempts to find sources which might demonstrate notability, and/or information which would demonstrate notability in another manner.
Here is the short info about Boyko's participation in the Yoga Journal conference. He writes and proves that these organisations have not so much relation to the real yoga. This is one of the rare times when he visited such events like that. http://www.imedia.ru/news/3063/
TBC
Best regards, Doctor Zevago (talk) 22:19, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
The following links lead us to the questionable sources. But we should take into account 4 things:
1. Russia is a country where underground views were always strong and popular. But Boyko is an enthusiast who is close to underground ideology. He seeks neither publicity nor promotion or financial success. If you would look at his site, you’ll be able to discover that he uses no advertising, he does not aim to attract as much people as possible, he even has posted his book for free downloading. Surely, it would be reasonable to try to find some hidden profit of such an order. But you will find nothing. Boyko is a real philanthropist.
2. These sources has no relation with Boyko’s school. We will try to find this relation together.
3. Almost nobody in the Russian net questions Boyko’s notability (his high authority and exceptional role in Russia’yoga and not only)
4. These sources are rather numerous. Quantity enhances quality in this case.
The 4 points I just posted are not arguments. It is just a little preamble. In the near 3 days I will bring sources and add commentaries to them. After I will end the list, we are able to discuss it. But until then we listen each other about every source that attracts your interest as it was before.
TBC
Best regards, Doctor Zevago (talk) 23:05, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for the patience! I still continue: The following links lead us to the questionable sources:
The article about Boyko.
- Search: Самый посещаемый в России информационный тематический сайт по йоге - www.realyoga.ru.
- Translation: realyoga.ru is the most popular website about yoga in Russia.
The book about spiritual teachings. One chapter is dedicated to Boyko.
- Search: Среди разнообразной отечественной и переводной литературы по йоге, книга Виктора значительно выделялась качеством и тщательностью подхода.
- Translation: Between various local and foreign literature on yoga, Boyko’s book stands out with its quality and thoroughness.
TBC
Best Regards, Doctor Zevago (talk) 23:23, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
An interview with local yoga teacher in the reliable but local paper.
- Search: Бойко, можно сказать, главный йог нашей страны
- Translation: Boyko is we can say the main yogin of our country.
- Search: ОСНОВАТЕЛИ
Рамакришна Вивекананда Ошо Ауробиндо Шивананда Криншамачарья Борис Сахаров Парамахамса Андрей Сидерский Андрей Лаппа Виктор Бойко
- Translation: It is the short list of yoga founders in the opinion of that site’s founders. Boyko shares the place with Ramakrishna, Swami Vivekananda and other famous persons.
An overview of the yoga in Russia
- Search: Школа Виктора Бойко (самого известного российского йога
- Translation: Yoga School of V. Boyko (the most known Russian yogin)
The collection of links at the philosophical site/ The link to the Boyko’s site has the following commentary.
- Search: Бойко - наиболее авторитетный из российских мастеров классического "неэкстримального" пути Йоги. Много информации, форум и общение с Виктором.
- Translation: Boyko is the most authoritative between Russian masters of the classical non-extreme yoga path. A lot of info, forum and communication with Viktor.
There is a list of the key yoga names in this site. We see Boyko between Iyengar, Satyananda Saraswati and other known figures.
- Search: Айенгар, Сатьянанда Сарасвати, Бойко
- Translation: Iyengar, Satyananda Saraswati, Boyko
There is the short list of yoga styles here. Boyko is listed between Ashtanga Vinyasa Yoga and the yoga of Patanjali as the site founders don’t know that it is the same thing.
- Search: Аштанга-Виньяса Йога, Йога Патанджали, Классическая йога по методике В.Бойко
- Translation: Ashtanga Vinyasa Yoga, yoga of Patanjali, Classical yoga in the method of Boyko.
- Search: По этой теме рекомендуются книги Свами Сатьянанды Сарасвати, Б.К.С. Айенгара и Виктора Бойко.
- Translation: Regarding this subject we recommend books of Satyananda Saraswati, Iyengar and Boyko.
Boyko is listed between all who is known in the world of yoga
- Search: Рамакришна, Вивекананда, Бойко
- Translation: Ramakrishna, Swami Vivekananda, Boyko
A book about the life-extending methods.
- Search: Предлагаемые в книге упражнения базируются на традициях лучших школ индийской классической Йоги, а именно – школе Б.К.С. Айенгара, школе Свами Сатьянанды Сарасвати, школе Виктора Бойко.
- Translation: The methods listed in this book are based on the traditions of the best Indian schools of classical yoga. It is Iyengar’s school, Satyananda Saraswati’s school and Boyko’s school.
An technical article about yoga
- Search: Рассмотрим на мой взгляд два крайних случая: школу Виктора Бойко и Аштанга-Виньясу Йогу собственно для меня они и символизируют Инь’ский и Ян’ский подход к практике асан
- Translation: Let’s take a look at 2 polar methods: Yoga School of Boyko and Ashtanga Vinyasa Yoga which symbolize to me Yin and yang approaches to the asanas practice.
To be honest I don’t know if this article was independent or paid, but National Geographic Society was too visible source to skip it:)
- Search: в Москве, пожалуй, самые спокойные уроки в Школе классической йоги Виктора Бойко
- Translation: The most soft yoga classes in Moscow are in Yoga School of Boyko
- Search: Мнгоие из вас слышали про таких известных мастеров йоги как Андрей Сидерский, Андрей Лаппа или Виктор Бойко.
- Translation: Many of you have heard about such known masters of yoga as Andre Sidersky, Andrey Lappa or Viktor Boyko.
Another all-star list where Boyko is listed between all who is known in the world of yoga
- Search: Сатьянанда, Айенгар, Бойко
- Translation: Satyananda Saraswati, Iyengar, Boyko
TBC
Best Regards, Doctor Zevago (talk) 00:56, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
I don’t know what this site was created for but the stuff they use is very selective. They have a photo of Iyengar, a chapter from Boyko’s book, a pair of other books about yoga and a few mantras.
- Search: КУРС ДЛЯ НАЧИНАЮЩИХ - 2 (В. Бойко)
- Translation: A yoga course for beginners -2 (Boyko)
A site about fitness uses an article about Yoga nidra written by Boyko.
- Search: Статья взята с сайта Виктора Сергеевича Бойко.
- Translation: The article is taken from Boyko’s site.
David Frawley’s certified ayurveda consultant from Toronto wrote an article about Boyko’s book.
- Search: В авторитете В. Бойко сомневаться не приходится – это один из известнейших людей в этой области.
- Translation: It is unnecessary to doubt about Boyko’s authority – he is one of the most known persons in this sphere.
The article about one of the Boyko’s seminars on the site Yoga in Chelyabinsk.
- Search: 23 ноября на полигоне "Лесная застава" благополучно, для более чем 50 человек, закончилась учебная операция под кодовым названием "Cеминар Виктора Бойко"
- My commentary: The author writes that seminar of Boyko was visited by more than 50 participants. It is not so little for that city.
The blog of the boss of a small company.
- Search: Перечитывал на днях “Йога: искусство коммуникации” Виктора Бойко. Зацепили следующие строки…
- Translation: A pair days ago I have read again Boyko’s book. My attention was attracted by the following lines…
- Search: Повторюсь, из всего прочитанного, мне ближе и понятнее оказались книги Виктора Бойко
- Translation: I repeat, the Boyko’s books are closer and more likeable to me than any other stuff that was read by me.
An article about Boyko’s seminar on the website of the local branch of the CTC (TV channel)
- Search: отец советской йоги - Виктор Бойко
- Translation: Boyko, the father of Soviet yoga
The recommendatory literature on the site a Latvian yoga teacher not affiliated to Boyko.
- Search: автор Виктор Бойко. Это лучшая книга о йоге на русском языке
- Translation: author is Boyko. This is the best book about yoga in Russian.
The recommendatory literature on the blog regarding self-improving
- Search: Виктор Бойко, Йога. Искусство коммуникации; всем, кто занимается йогой или только планирует начать - читать обязательно.
- Translation: Boyko, Yoga. The Art Of Communication is a must-read book for all who practice yoga or just plans to start it.
The full chapter of Boyko’s book regarding correlation of yoga and Christianity.
- Search: Глава из книги В.С. Бойко "Йога - искусство коммуникации"
- Translation: The chapter of Boyko’s book
One more all-stars list of yoga. Boyko is there.
- Search:Саи Баба, Сатьянанда Сарасвати, Бойко
- Translation: Sathya Sai Baba, Satyananda Saraswati, Boyko
The site of commercial ayurveda center. The info about yoga is limited by the quotes from Boyko.
- Search: цитаты из В С Бойко
- Translation: quotes from Boyko.
Boyko is included in another short list of gurus
- Search:
Шри Свами Сатчитананда Паттабхи Джойс Беллур Кришнамачар Сундараджа Айенгар Парамахамса Сатьянанда Сатья Саи Баба Гуру Ар Сантэм Виктор Бойко Андрей Сидерский Андрей Лаппа
- Translation: Iyengar, Pattabhi Jois, Boyko
The site of a commercial medical center. We see an article about arthritis.
- Search: Рекомендую прежде всего "подковаться" теоретически. Для этого стоит почитать хорошие пособия по йоге. В частности, рекомендую замечательную книгу Виктора Бойко "Йога. Скрытые аспекты практики".
- Translation: I recommend you to study theory. To do it you should read good handbooks about yoga. I recommend you the wonderful book of Boyko.
The overview of yoga in Moscow in reliable Vedomosti.
- Search: Среди самых крупных (по числу учеников) школ столицы — Центр йоги Айенгара, Аштанга Йога Центр, Школа классической йоги Виктора Бойко
- Translation: Between the largest (based on the number of pupils) schools of the Capital are the center of Iyengar, Ashtanga center and the school of Boyko.
The site of a commercial yoga center in Rostov-on-Don. We see that they quote only Iyengar and Boyko.
Another commercial site. Between the small number of selected articles we see the quote from Boyko.
- Search: Рассмотрим выгоды, которые может дать йога:
Выдержки из книги Виктора Бойко
- Translation: Let’s take a look at the benefits yoga could give us. Quotes from Boyko’s book.
The personal site of a fitness instructor. She tries to write her own authored yoga article, but she stole a lot of text from Boyko’s book. If needed I will demonstrate it. The following quote shows us how she understands the notability of Boyko as she mention him in the asanas definition.
- Search: Основные отличия асан от любых других обычных движений и физических упражнений (по В. Бойко)
- Translation: The main difference between asanas and other physical activities (as Boyko writes)
Another commercial site about yoga.
- Search: Выжимки из книги Виктор Бойко Йога – искусство коммуникации
- Translation: Quotes from Boyko’s book
Personal site
- Search: “Йога: искусство коммуникации” Виктор Бойко
- My commentary: Quotes from Boyko’s book
The split interview of the director of the Moscow Iyengar Center Ulmasbayeva and teacher of Yoga School of Viktor Boyko Marianna Goroshetchenko.
- Search: объясняет МАРИАННА ГОРОШЕТЧЕНКО, инструктор «Школы йоги Виктора Бойко»
- Translation: teacher of Yoga School of Viktor Boyko Marianna Goroshetchenko explains
An article about food in "Gastronome" magazine
- Search: Существует ли в принципе свод кулинарных правил, которые помогут быстрее просветлеть? Однозначного ответа не существует. Наши авторитетные собеседники – Елена Ульмасбаева из Центра йоги Айенгара и Федерации «Йога-Практика», Виктор Бойко из Школы классической йоги, Ирина Межакова из Федерации йоги и ихаил Барановиз Аштанга йога центра – ссылались на разные источники
- Translation: Are there any united culinary rules that could help us to approach to enlightenment? No united answer could be found. Our authoritative interlocutors, Ulmasbayeva from Iyengar Center, Boyko from the Classical Yoga School, Mezhakova from Russian Yoga Federation and Baranov from Ashtanga Vinyasa Yoga Center quote different sources
The list of biographies and resumes of yoga-teachers who are not affiliated to Yoga School of Viktor Boyko but still consider Viktor as their teacher. What does it mean? You couldn’t find their names neither on the Boyko’s site nor on the sites of his school’s branches. We click every link and read how they mention Boyko (Бойко).
- http://www.realyoganyc.com/about.php
- http://michail-yoga.narod2.ru/moya_biografiya/
- http://www.sciteclibrary.ru/rus/catalog/pages/6317.html
- http://www.vadimignatov.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=45
- http://www.sibyoga.ru/prepods/akademgorodke/irina_vladimirovna_marina.html
- http://www.yogamagazine.ru/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/yoga_15_2006.pdf
- http://yoga74.ru/people/bugrova-anna
- http://inveda.ru/2010/02/25/yoga/
- http://www.a-klub.ru/special/evgeniya_atarova.htm
- http://www.vishime.ru/blogs/2010/11/03/mogu-jogu/
- http://board27.ru/drygoe/message-164.html
- http://www.sneglotus.ru/instructors/janyshenko/
- http://www.nvek.com.ua/masters/42-2010-10-25-23-00-27/93-gurakov
- http://aptekavostoka.ru/about/
- http://www.mos-yoga.ru/teachers/47.html
- http://dzerzhynsk.skrutok.net/
- http://www.istoki.net.ua/archives/145
- http://www.lifeholiday.ru/content/pervyi-festival-iogi-na-urale
TBC
Best Regards, Doctor Zevago (talk) 23:11, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for the patience!
I add another interview in the (questionable) but still solid source.
- The interview with Boyko for the now not existing «Nagual Time» magazine in 2004
- Full issue in pdf: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=91UDD127
- LJ: http://partizan-l.livejournal.com/29161.html
My commentary: It is important to understand that it is the large and detailed interview. Boyko does not tell 'em how good he is. They ask him about Carlos Castaneda and yoga. He has shared wholla lot of knowledge with them and you can't find any info about his school in the article. It is so 'cause this article has nothing to do with promotion or anything like this. As usual Boyko was invited as known expert.
One more interview in "The 6th race" paper. This paper has no credible reputation, but since I found it, I add it here. I've checked, still they do 5000 copies monthly.
So it seems like I’ve almost finished adding sources.
Well, I brought significant coverage. As I said, the reliable sources are not very numerous, but in total we have rather clear picture based on the WP:Notability, especially if to take into account the Boyko's lack of self-promotional and business-oriented actions that are obvious for everybody and easy provable.
- Now I would read what you think about all this. After we reconcile the notability, we could discuss the text itself.
Best Regards, Doctor Zevago (talk) 03:51, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks for that Doctor Zevago. I have a large back log I am dealing with, but I will get around to looking into this for you at some point. SilkTork *YES! 11:41, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
- Thank you for your attention and time SilkTork. Best Regards, Doctor Zevago (talk) 04:23, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks for that Doctor Zevago. I have a large back log I am dealing with, but I will get around to looking into this for you at some point. SilkTork *YES! 11:41, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
any interest edit
You have asked me if I have any interest in the topic. Surely I practice yoga. Just like you drink beer and hear The Byrds and Chuck Berry. But I have no profit for my Wikipedia articles.Doctor Zevago (talk) 03:51, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
- The question was really asked to politely raise the issue of Wikipedia:Conflict of interest, and to alert you to the guidelines regarding somebody writing about themselves without declaring who they are. If you are Boyko, and you deny that you are him, you could be blocked from editing Wikipedia. If you are not Boyko, then there isn't an issue. I am avoiding asking you directly as I don't want to push you into a corner, though if you are Boyko it would be better if you said so, and if you are not Boyko it would be better if you said so. I am slightly uncomfortable with your vagueness about this matter. While you have a right to your privacy, the question of COI, fairness, integrity and openness would suggest that a clear statement of your connection (or not) with the subject of the article would make sense. To put it simply: If you are Boyko, by your honour please say so, as you have created and are editing an article about him. If you are not Boyko, then a simple statement to that effect wouldn't impact on your privacy at all, and would make things so much easier and clearer. SilkTork *YES! 11:41, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
- To be honest I don't understand where do you read vagueness in my text.
- If you would like to hear the direct answer (though I've already made it), I repeat: I am not neither Boyko nor I am paid or receive any profit for my articles.
- If you don't trust me at this moment, I don't see any reasons why you should trust me after my answer.
- In any case, I think that the article would be better if we'll check every statement that I write here on my talk page and in articles. Claim of verifiability is the lighthouse that will never let us down. Best Regards, Doctor Zevago (talk) 18:06, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
- I don't recall seeing any direct answer - forgive me if you gave one and I missed it. I don't see it above, though if you say that you said it earlier somewhere else, then that is fine. Thank you for making that issue clearer. SilkTork *YES! 21:10, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
- I have written "I have no profit for my Wikipedia articles". I was thinking it is enough. But it is my task to pass the meaning of my words. If I was not able to pass it without aberration, so it's my fault. So I ask your pardon. Best Regards, Doctor Zevago (talk) 04:19, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
- I don't recall seeing any direct answer - forgive me if you gave one and I missed it. I don't see it above, though if you say that you said it earlier somewhere else, then that is fine. Thank you for making that issue clearer. SilkTork *YES! 21:10, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
April 2011 edit
Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. Before saving your changes to an article, please provide an edit summary for your edits. Doing so helps everyone understand the intention of your edit (and prevents legitimate edits from being mistaken for vandalism). It is also helpful to users reading the edit history of the page. Thank you. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 08:38, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks for the tip! Explain me please, should I add edit summary every time I edit anything or I could skip it if I add info in the article that I have recently created? Best Regards, Doctor Zevago (talk) 08:47, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
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