Dennie2me

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If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact me on my talk page. Adam (Wiki Ed) (talk) 05:16, 28 January 2017 (UTC)

Women, Graffiti, and Resistance ‎

What are you doing? You've made copies of this article all over the place. It does not belong on your talk page. It does not belong on the article's talk page. It does not belong on Wikipedia talk:Wiki Ed/Cal State San Marcos/Sociological Advocacy (Spring 2017). The copy in your sandbox is OK if you are working on it there, but since you have posted the article to article space you no longer need that copy either. Meters (talk) 05:10, 29 January 2017 (UTC)

I really don't what I am doing, so I apologize profusely and ask for allowance of a learning curve Dennie2me (talk) 05:18, 29 January 2017 (UTC)

No worries. It's where it needs to be now. Meters (talk) 05:19, 29 January 2017 (UTC)

In general, talk pages are for discussion about the content of a top level page. User talk pages are for discussing the user's edits. See WP:TALK. If you have questions drop me a line on my talk page. Meters (talk) 05:23, 29 January 2017 (UTC)

Thank you, I have bookmarked.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Dennie2me (talk • contribs) 05:25, January 29, 2017 (UTC)

Hints:

1. Add a signature and time stamp to your talk page posts with "~~~~".
2. Indent your replies with colons for legibility, one : per level of indent.

Meters (talk) 05:29, 29 January 2017 (UTC)

Awesome! Thank you

Dennie2me (talk) 05:40, 29 January 2017 (UTC)

Hint 3. Either don't hit enter before your signature, or add the colons again. You have to reset the indent level each time you hit enter.Meters (talk) 05:42, 29 January 2017 (UTC)

I still am clueless but learningDennie2me (talk) 22:13, 29 January 2017 (UTC)

Sorry your first article got deleted. It's a common occurrence. Please don't get discouraged. Not many new editors can write an proper article right off the bat. It's a good idea for inexperienced editors to work on a new article in their sandbox or in draft space first, and then get an independent review of it before trying to put it in article space. You can get a copy of the versions you had in other locations by copying it from the page history (they were blanked rather than having the pages deleted) if the copy in your sandbox was no the most recent. Meters (talk) 05:23, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

The draft space has 480 articles ahead of me haha. Thank you for the encouragement and I tried to find a copy and couldn't. I wrote another one so we shall see. 2606:6000:C2C0:4A00:178:CF1:87CB:8192 (talk) 06:19, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

Here's the old copy from your user talk page [1]. Meters (talk) 06:51, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Feminism in graffiti (January 30)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by MatthewVanitas was: Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

• If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Feminism in graffiti and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
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MatthewVanitas (talk) 23:11, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

Hello! Dennie2me, I noticed your article was declined at Articles for Creation, and that can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! MatthewVanitas (talk) 23:11, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

Improvements at Feminism in graffiti

Hello, Feminism in graffiti is a valid and interesting topic for an article, and you are gradually improving it, but it does still need work.

Among the issues: you're making a lot of doctrinal statements about how graffiti works with feminism, but you aren't citing any academic or journalist works that document those concepts. We can't simply take your word for it that gatekeeping/intersectionality/etc. apply to the graffiti world, you need to cite experts who've said those things. That's what an encyclopedia is, a compilation of already documented facts and ideas into a convenient digest. An encyclopedia is not a place to broach new concepts.

I'm not saying that your statements aren't accurate, but I'm saying they need to exist as ideas cited to documented experts, not as your personal views, makes sense?

Keep up the good work, you've picked a challenging topic but I'm sure there are some good writers who have written on this topic, and by citing them you bring more attention to their work, give your readers authorities that they can refer back to, and provide a proven basis for these arguments. Let me know if you have any questions. MatthewVanitas (talk) 01:31, 31 January 2017 (UTC)

Absolutely and I will continue to improve to meet Wikipedia standards. Thank you so much for your guidance Dennie2me (talk) 18:40, 31 January 2017 (UTC)

No worries. A good rule of thumb is that for any fact you write, there needs to be a "says who?" You can't take facts for granted, or create your own linkages between two ideas without some citation to a higher authority. There are tons of good places for WP:Original research, it's what drives learning forward, but an encyclopedia is a compilation of documented knowledge, so it's a step removed (deliberately) from the ground reality. MatthewVanitas (talk) 18:55, 31 January 2017 (UTC)

Turns out there are a whole bunch of good photos at c:Category:Feminist graffitis, so if you want to pick a different image for the article, feel free. I added a WikiCommons link to the category at the bottom of the article so readers can browse them, so resist the temptation to add a bunch of photos :) , stick to picking one good representative one for now. MatthewVanitas (talk) 19:03, 31 January 2017 (UTC)

I have good pictures of Lady Pink which would be sick to add, how do ido this without copyright infringe?Dennie2me (talk) 02:17, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

Not to overwhelm you with feedback, but again you've picked a really interesting topic. The reason the "intro missing" tag is still there is because you kind of side-step your title by jumping into "female graffiti writers". If that were your topic that'd be a good start, but since your topic is feminism in graffiti, you want to start there, and there in a later paragraph you can segue into "Feminist graffiti by artists who happen to be women". And again, you want to lead with well-documented academic/journalist concepts about how feminism and graffiti intersect. Hope all this is helpful, ping me on my Talk page if you have any questions, or just add {{ping|MatthewVanitas}} to your reply here (or anywhere else) and Wikipedia will alert me that I've been pinged. MatthewVanitas (talk) 19:07, 31 January 2017 (UTC)

Also make sure to use GoogleBooks (try different keyword permutations) to find sources. You can instantly turn any GoogleBooks URL into a fully-formatted wiki footnote using http://reftag.appspot.com MatthewVanitas (talk) 20:43, 31 January 2017 (UTC)

I have the facts man!! I will incorp them into my page, hopefully by tonight or tomorrow. Thank you much for the help!! As for the pinging and the coding, I suck :( so I apologize if this is not ok Dennie2me (talk) 01:45, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

Also, as I am digging this but see where I need to change the title? Your thoughts. and thank youDennie2me (talk) 02:17, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

I'm not entirely sure you need to change the title, though you could potentially go with something like Feminist graffiti or Women graffiti artists or something, but for the moment I'd suggest just sticking with the current title, continue to develop the article, and see how it shapes up. If you want some input, you can also check in at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Feminism and/or Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Visual arts to get feedback from topic-experts. Note too that your article is getting long enough that you should break it up into sections, see WP:Sections for how to do this. No worries on the learning process and the coding, just remember to past the ping code I show above into a message if you want to notify me that you're talking to me, otherwise I only see the message if I come to your page on my own. MatthewVanitas (talk) 04:02, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

Found a good source with some backstory on Lady Pink's experience: Jeffrey Ian Ross (2 March 2016). Routledge Handbook of Graffiti and Street Art. Routledge. pp. 187–. ISBN 978-1-317-64586-3. MatthewVanitas (talk) 23:05, 2 February 2017 (UTC)

Thank youDennie2me (talk) 19:50, 6 February 2017 (UTC)

Removing maintenance templates

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Your draft article, Draft:Feminism in graffiti

Hello, Dennie2me. It has been over six months since you last edited your Articles for Creation draft article submission, "Feminism in graffiti".

In accordance with our policy that Articles for Creation is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been nominated for deletion. If you plan on working on it further, or editing it to address the issues raised if it was declined, simply and remove the {{db-afc}} or {{db-g13}} code.

If your submission has already been deleted by the time you get there, and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion by following the instructions at this link. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Legacypac (talk) 09:30, 12 June 2017 (UTC)