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I'm about to unblock your account. Salvio 21:39, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

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Help cakebot, I saw the great job that you did on Shiba Inu cryptocurrency. I have a cryptocurrency that I want to write on, would you be kind to guide me so that it can be approved or even write on it yourself? Mastetchi (talk) 06:30, 11 December 2021 (UTC)

Hi Mastetchi, that page wasn't created by me, but by User:EDG 543. I have just been editing it since.

I see that you already know how to make the draft submission and I would advice you submit it there first. Important in getting any page on Wikipedia is that it is Notable (see Wikipedia:Notability). This means it has "Significant coverage significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject".

A consensus holds that the cypto-press (such as coin-desk) are not reliable and/or independent and so can't be used. So before starting make sure that your coin has widespread coverage in Wikipedia:Reliable Sources (Examples can be found in the green rows of the table on wp:rsp). For example, Shiba Inu (cryptocurrency) cites Deseret News, Mint, Bloomberg, Wall Street Journal, ect.

If you want any further information feel free to ask and good luck with future editing. Cakelot1 (talk) 12:15, 11 December 2021 (UTC)

Thank you. I will get in touch with you once I start working on an article.

Mastetchi (talk) 12:42, 11 December 2021 (UTC)

Revert

Hello Cakelot, looking to your revert, I was wondering if you could help me to trace it back. I got as far as Wikipedia:WikiProject Catholicism, but that's I am afraid. Thank you for your time. Lotje (talk) 12:30, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

Apologies Lotje, I accidently didn't put the actual link in. Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Catholicism/Archive 2020#RfC on non-contemporary images of popes gives the consensus of the wikiproject to not use 19th century imaginary image such as those from The Lives and Times of the Popes and Saint Paul Outside the Walls. Additionally WP:PORTRAIT is a good essay to explain the general reasoning for avoiding imaginary depictions of historical figures. Cakelot1 (talk) 12:43, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

Thank you very much Cakelot1 for this detailed information. As a matter of fact, I added some information to that image --> Imaginary depiction of Pope Victor I seems reasonable. Thank you for your time. Lotje (talk) 13:42, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

Peter Obi

Good work. I have requested increased page protection. This looks like a political meat puppet campaign, though I would not rule socks out 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 22:12, 27 April 2022 (UTC)

I think it might be more that a twitter account with 46k followers posted about it [1] Cakelot1 (talk) 22:17, 27 April 2022 (UTC)

Now that would do it 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 22:17, 27 April 2022 (UTC)

I have opened Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Joseph Isama‎ to try to determine meat/sock 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 22:17, 27 April 2022 (UTC)

Midlands

In terms of backing up the claim that the name Mercia is synonymous with the Midlands, isn't West Mercia Police and the Mercian Regiment in the British army clearly proof that it is officially used? Even on the Mercia (disambiguation) page it states "It is sometimes used as a poetic name for the Midlands." 82.33.87.37 (talk) 10:55, 1 September 2022 (UTC)

82.33.87.37, As I eluded to in the talk page summary the use of old kingdom names is a thing that happens in other regions too. For example, Northumbria is used as the name name that in modern time is used by institutions in the North East: Northumbria Police, Northumbria University, Northumbria Healthcare NHS Foundation Trust, ect. Wessex in the south even more so Wessex Archaeology, Wessex (European Parliament constituency), Wessex Trains, Royal Wessex Yeomanry, ect. Neither the article for the North-east or Southern England claim it as an alternate name. We do have and article for the modern use of the name Northumbria (Northumbria (modern)), but these historical kingdoms and identities are too nebulous to map onto modern territories.

In terms of it being a poetic name, I would point to Cambria, a poetic name for Wales, not being included as an alternate name, Albion's not called an alternate name in the article for England, Hibernia not called an alternate name in our article for Ireland, and so on.

I think, if we'd want it to stick, we'd need some sources showing that the modern concept of the midlands is regularly, in common speech, referred to by some group, as Mercia. Cakelot1 (talk) 11:53, 1 September 2022 (UTC)

Lehrer songs

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@David Eppstein as far as I know the songs are sourced from [website] which has the following declaration:

::I, Tom Lehrer, and the Tom Lehrer Trust 2000, hereby grant the following permission:

All the lyrics on this website, whether published or unpublished, copyrighted or uncopyrighted, may be downloaded and used in any manner whatsoever, without requiring any further permission from me or any payment to me or to anyone else.

Some lyrics written by me to copyrighted music by others are included herein, but of course such music may not be used without permission of the copyright owners. (The translated songs may be found in their original languages on YouTube.)

The music of all the songs on this website that were written by me may also be downloaded and used as described above.

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In particular, permission is hereby granted to anyone to set any of these lyrics to their own music and publish or perform their versions or parodies or distortions of these lyrics without fear of legal action.

(There is no legal way to unilaterally transfer a song into the public domain, so this disclaimer is intended as an end run around the copyright laws.)

If you think that these songs aren't covered by this then they aught to be immediately removed from commons (see c:Category:The Remains of Tom Lehrer). Cakelot1 (talk) 00:13, 15 September 2022 (UTC)

Also there's also a file of a similar ilk in Tom Lehrer#Recordings that you should also remove if you think that all of these recordings aren't covered by the aforementioned PD declaration. Cakelot1 (talk) 00:16, 15 September 2022 (UTC)

Consensus on ethnic slur

I would be happy to start a discussion on the List_of_ethnic_slurs_and_epithets_by_ethnicity talk page to find a consensus on gusano's inclusion. I pointed to User:Cullen328's talk page, however, to show my reasoning for removing it based on the sources that were provided to argue for its inclusion. In other words, the editor who supplied the four Jstor articles as sources for the claim that gusano is an ethnic slur didn't read them, because none of them makes that argument. Planetjanet (talk) 09:24, 24 September 2022 (UTC)

I recommend you open a talk page section. It's always best to do these thing where many people can respond. Cakelot1 (talk) 09:27, 24 September 2022 (UTC)

I have removed those sources as they don't seem to support the content. I would however still encourage this discussed as it is a controversial topic and a consensus would probably be needed to remove it. Cakelot1 (talk) 09:43, 24 September 2022 (UTC)

Hi Cakelot1 seems like the user above have made some statements in bad faith, taking out small sections of the text out of context to support their own arguments. I have started a new section in List_of_ethnic_slurs_and_epithets_by_ethnicity talk page discussing in detail two of the citations by Jorge Duany with quotes in their larger context. I have also presented the larger argument each of the articles presents specifically in relation to the use of class and racial identity in relation to the slur "gusano".

As you were the one to remove the citations please let me know what you think of my presentation of these references and weather they are applicable to this context. Also it was not four JSTOR articles, but two JSTOR articles, one OpenEdition Journal, and one from the Berkley Law Journal. Thank you. GumRumGum (talk) 14:25, 24 September 2022 (UTC)

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Mass Revert

If you're going to do a mass revert of my edits, at least don't claim it's because of 'user talk discussion,' because it's not. Also:

1. I could probably do this more efficiently with Cat-A-Lot
2. {{Non-diffusing subcategory}} needs to be added to prevent this happening again, and I doubt you're doing that

I dream of horses (Contribs) (Talk) 02:06, 4 December 2022 (UTC) (edited on 02:08, 4 December 2022 (UTC))

@I dream of horses, Where have I mass reverted anything? (my recent edits) I've only reverted Emergency Heroes so far, and this was before I read that this was a wider issue. Emergency Heroes clearly belongs in Category:Wii games as well as Category:Wii-only games. I didn't claim 'user talk discussion,', my actual edit summary was Undid revision 1125419674 by I dream of horses (talk) Unexplained removal. "Wii only" is marked as WP:DUPCAT and so doesn't interferer with "wii games". which I think is completely fine. Cakelot1 (talk) 02:31, 4 December 2022 (UTC)

Perhaps your looking for Waxworker (recent edits) who actually is doing revisions of your changes (perfectly legitimately in my opinion). You should try to be more carful that you actually get the correct person before you launch into accusatory language. Cakelot1 (talk) 02:36, 4 December 2022 (UTC)

@Cakelot1 Sorry. You weren't the one who deserved that. I dream of horses (Contribs) (Talk) 04:36, 4 December 2022 (UTC)

List of crossings of the River Tees

Hello, on List of crossings of the River Tees you are using refs to the National Heritage List for England. Could you please complete the title for these as per the list entry and add appropriate accessdates. Many thanks. Keith D (talk) 23:09, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

@Keith D, These where automatically imported from wikidata through the use of {{Wdtable row/bridge1}} and a such I didn't necessarily add the meta-data them. All the same I believe adding such data at wikidata will pull it through, so I'll have a look at adding those there. Cakelot1 (talk) 23:15, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

Thanks. I would have fixed it if it was here rather than dragged from wikidata much more user friendly and can spot changes. Keith D (talk) 23:19, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

I was mainly just using List of crossings of the River Thames as a basis, but looking there they have the same problem with Historic England links. And after adding some more data to cites on Wynch Bridge (Q14549687) doesn't seem to come through for me (even after clearing cache) so I'm at a loss there. Might be a problem with {{Module:Wikidata table}} but I don't have enough experience in this. If there isn't a way to fix that, it might be an idea to make it a static table locally. I don't know if there is an easy way to "subt" tables like that. Cakelot1 (talk) 23:30, 4 March 2023 (UTC)