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every 12 hours? i dont think so..
I know this is not very important, but on the template, it is stated that the sandbox is deleted every 12 hours, while in fact robot "OverlordQBot" is deleting the sandbox almost every minute .... yes, technically, the bot is "user" too, but well, for not confusing users, it should be written in the template that it will dissappear soon after a few minutes (or seconds), deleted by bot... just my opinion. --Have a nice day. Running 00:57, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
- Sure why not? Should I add an
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request to this?--Sunny910910 (talk|Contributions|Guest) 00:59, 11 February 2008 (UTC)- Once you have the requested-replacement wording sorted out, for the admin to just copy&paste, yes. :) -- Quiddity (talk) 05:58, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
Why spamming is permitted in the sandbox?
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Definitely, that should be forbidden. Take a look at this spam edit. Alexius08 is welcome to talk about his contributions. 06:10, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
- Not done: The point is that anything that is not illegal is permitted in the sandbox - it's the one page where test edits, vandalism, and other crap is explicitly permitted so we can take a zero-tolerance approach elsewhere. Happy‑melon 13:15, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
Add hatnote
{{editprotected}} Please can somebody add a hatnote about WP:BOX redirecting to the sandbox - people may be looking for userboxes...... Densock .. Talk(Dendodge on a public network) 11:41, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
- I think it's better to make WP:BOX a disambig page than to confuse new editors with a hatnote on the sandbox. — Carl (CBM · talk) 15:10, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
Add a robot to Persian WP
Hello. Please add a robot to this page in Persian WP here: [[fa:ویکیپدیا:گودال ماسهبازی]] —Preceding unsigned comment added by P30Carl (talk • contribs) 12:35, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
Interwiki to ms
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Interwiki link of sandbox to Malay Wikipedia should be ms:Wikipedia:Kotak pasir instead of ms:Wikipedia:Sandbox. As ms:Wikipedia:Sandbox is redirected to ms:Wikipedia:Kotak pasir. izzudin 14:45, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
- Done. — Huntster (t • @ • c) 19:36, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
Click edit this page above?
{{editprotected}} I propose changing
"click [...] or edit this page above"
into
"click [...] or the tab edit this page above"
Reason: I find it to be unclear that the phrase "edit this page" refers to the tab, especially for new users (who presumably use the Sandbox the most). Yes, despite the text in bold. If you read the instruction as clicking on the text "edit the page above" nothing happens (obviously). It would make things much clearer if the instruction explicitly mentions the tab. Not mentioning the tab is omitting a vital clue for no good reason, I would say. This change makes the template only minimally longer. CapnZapp (talk) 17:35, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
- No further comments? Is this because noone objects, or because noone reads this page? ;-) Anyway, I find that to proceed, I know of no other way than to add the editprotected template to this section. Thanks, CapnZapp (talk) 09:11, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
- Support. (I missed your initial post in my watchlist. I don't know where everyone else is..?). -- Quiddity (talk) 17:58, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
- Done SkierRMH (talk) 21:05, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
WP:BOX as a shortcut
The WP:BOX shortcut isn't a shortcut to the sandbox, but a disambiguation page. ←Signed:→Mr. E. Sánchez Get to know me! / Talk to me!←at≈:→ 06:39, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
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Yes, remove that shortcut please. -- Quiddity (talk) 08:26, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
- Done. — Huntster (t • @ • c) 10:52, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
Edit request (link)
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Please change the line "For uses of sandboxes, see the article sandbox." to "For uses of sandboxes, see the article sandbox (software development)." Sandbox is a disambiguation page, and the link is not helpful to inexperienced users. --Russ (talk) 15:58, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
- That doesn't make sense. :-) Uses of sandboxes are found at the disambig page; if you change the link, the rest of the sentence must be changed as well. --MZMcBride (talk) 06:28, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
- I see no reason to change the text. The disambig page will get readers to whereever they need to go. Not done. — Huntster (t • @ • c) 10:53, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
- Other admins thought the exact same request was valid on other sandbox templates.... Perhaps now we need to change the policy on links to disambiguation pages? --Russ (talk) 14:50, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
- I see no reason to change the text. The disambig page will get readers to whereever they need to go. Not done. — Huntster (t • @ • c) 10:53, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
Mbox
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Please replace this code:
{| class="messagebox protected" style="border:2px solid #99B; padding:0px; font-size:0.9em;" |- | valign="top" | [[Image:Padlock.svg|45px|]] | '''This page should NOT be used for ''testing purposes''.''' This page acts ''only'' as a transclusion for [[Wikipedia:Sandbox]]. For that reason, testers who wish to experiment should test their edits at [[Wikipedia:Sandbox]], ''not'' here. This page should ''only'' be edited if the ''Sandbox Header'' needs modification(s). |}
with the folllowing:
{{Ombox |type = protection |text = '''This page should NOT be used for ''testing purposes''.''' This page acts ''only'' as a transclusion for [[Wikipedia:Sandbox]]. For that reason, testers who wish to experiment should test their edits at [[Wikipedia:Sandbox]], ''not'' here. This page should ''only'' be edited if the ''Sandbox Header'' needs modification(s). }}
, to conform with the latest message box standardiation. Alse, while you're at it, please remove the font tags around the links to other sandboxes—they don't do anything useful, they only freeze fonts in IE. ([1]). Thanks. —Ms2ger (talk) 20:03, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
Inter-Wiki link to bar
Hello. Please add the Interwiki-link to [[bar:Wikipedia:Spielwiese]]. Informatik (talk) 14:13, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
{{editprotected}} I created an essay on misuse of the sandbox. Would someone mind adding this line If you are unsure whether your experiment would be acceptable here, please read Wikipedia:Misuse of the sandbox after the "please don't add offensive or copyright material line"? Thank you.--Maddie (formerly Ashbey) 18:38, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
I hope this is still a test for editing pages in Wikipedia - Consult67
- Is there really any need for that? I don't think anyone using the sandbox will go and read the essay, sadly. Stifle (talk) 14:31, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
- Not done: The header is already long enough that most new editors won't read it thoroughly, anyway. Also, WP:BEANS.--Aervanath talks like a mover, but not a shaker 19:44, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
(Removed misplaced content) Iceblock (talk) 21:13, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
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If you don't like edit conflicts, you could try Special:ExpandTemplates. You can't create templates there, though. Iceblock (talk) 05:58, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
I mean, that the above text be added to the template. Iceblock (talk) —Preceding undated comment was added at 05:59, 29 January 2009 (UTC).
Quoting Wikipedia talk:About the Sandbox#Edit conflict:
Every time I use the sandbox, I always end up in an edit conflict which results in me losing all of my work. It's really annoying and if there is anything we can do to help that it would be great. ~ Her Holy Jamoley Highness Rebel Queen Pokeynut 03:11, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
- My suggestion to you would be to stop making edits if it bugs you that much....or you could copy+paste when you finish —Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.221.242.253 (talk) 13:15, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
- There's not too much too be done about this, because it's usually just for tests and not "work." If there's something that you are test-editing and it's important, the best thing you could do would be to create your own sandbox in your userspace. That, or use someone else's. Cheers. – Alex43223 T | C | E 04:19, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
- Uh you can't edit someone else's sandbox unless they give your permission. If you don't have permission that's considered vandalism. Reliable Forevertalk 19:40, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
- Per WP:UP#OWN, you don't need to ask permission to edit someone else's sandbox. I find your interpretation that that would be vandalism very strange.--Atlan (talk) 20:52, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
There is a need for this. Iceblock (talk) 21:11, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
The problem that the sandbox makes one end up in an edit conflict was presented on 8 October 2008.
The IP address was permanently blocked on 16 October 2008.
Iceblock (talk) 11:36, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
I have collected more factors to take into consideration. Please discuss this subject on Wikipedia talk:About the Sandbox#Header moving to MediaWiki namespace instead of here. Iceblock (talk) 18:50, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
- Not done I do not understand what this discussion is about. Ruslik (talk) 10:19, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
add Template:Template_Sandbox to list of sandbox templates
Looks like somebody forgot to edit the other sandbox heading templates when updating the template sandbox heading template. Only the template sandbox heading template lists Template:Template sandbox as a template sandbox along with the X# template sandboxes.
Additionally, template sandbox heading template template sandbox template heading sandbox template sandbox sandbox template rubber baby buggy bumper. --User:Stuart P. Bentley (talk) 09:12, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
slovak sandbox
please add the slovak sandbox to the foreign-language section. it's located at: sk:Wikipédia:Pieskovisko. —Chris Capoccia T⁄C 09:54, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
WP:FOO could be added to the shortcut list.. but.. meh. I won't bother with an editprotected request, just this notice if any admin happens to see it. -- Ϫ 07:57, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
- Done - Trevor MacInnis (Contribs) 01:12, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
Concerning [Category:Sandbox templates]
I'd like to know why this one isn't listed in Category:Sandbox templates.--Tossie (talk) 13:47, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
Link
Links to sandbox, a disambig. Change to Wikipedia:About the sandbox? Kayau |Jane Eyre| PRIDE AND PREJUDICE| les miserables 09:30, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
Need to update link for creating a user subpage
At the end of the header, the link "create a user subpage" points to "WP:User page#How do I create a user subpage?" That section no longer exists. The link needs to point to "WP:User page#How to create a user subpage".--Jw 193 (talk) 23:50, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
Please add Inter-wiki MR
Please do add interwiki link [[mr:विकिपीडिया:धूळपाटी]]
-being Marathi Language Wikipedia' Sandbox.
Mahitgar (talk) 09:21, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
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Various requests above. -- Ϫ 18:36, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
- (To User:Antonio Lopez) Why null the template without explanation? Are the requests above not worth fulfilling? -- Ϫ 23:11, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
- I apoligize that was an error of mines, I edited the wrong item. Antonio López (desu) 18:25, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
- Done the three open requests I see above, any more? - Trevor MacInnis (Contribs) 01:12, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
No more dotted borders!
I never liked dotted borders. Many people says the same thing. Please, change the dotted borders to normal ones. A notification[1] is above the edit window where I wrote this message. That uses normal borders. --Nyuszikaa (talk) 09:09, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
- Agreed, this should use {{ombox}} for its formatting. I'm working on the code for the transition. --Philosopher Let us reason together. 20:02, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
- Actually, this does raise the question for the other sandbox headers (Wikipedia talk, etc.) They currently all use this same message box - should they all be changed to use {{ombox}} or should they use the appropriate one for their namespace (e.g. {{tmbox}})? --Philosopher Let us reason together. 20:08, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
- I agree why not include a standard notice template and if u want with a red stop sign. --Tyw7 (Talk • Contributions) 15:19, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
- Here's the code for the new page (inside "ref" and "nowiki" tags).[2] I'm going to wait to implement it until I get some feedback on whether the other ones should use {{ombox}} as well, so they can be changed at the same time as each other. --Philosopher Let us reason together. 20:30, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
- Actually, this does raise the question for the other sandbox headers (Wikipedia talk, etc.) They currently all use this same message box - should they all be changed to use {{ombox}} or should they use the appropriate one for their namespace (e.g. {{tmbox}})? --Philosopher Let us reason together. 20:08, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
Notes
- ^ This is a talk page. Please respect the talk page guidelines, and remember to sign your posts by typing four tildes (~~~~)
- ^ <noinclude> {{Ombox |type = protection |text = '''This page should NOT be used for ''testing purposes''.''' This page acts ''only'' as a transclusion for [[Wikipedia:Sandbox]]. For that reason, testers who wish to experiment should test their edits at [[Wikipedia:Sandbox]], ''not'' here. This page should ''only'' be edited if the ''Sandbox Header'' needs modification(s). }} </noinclude><includeonly> {{ombox | type = notice | image = none | text = ''Welcome to the '''Wikipedia Sandbox'''! This page allows you to carry out experiments. To edit, click <span class="plainlinks">'''[{{SERVER}}{{localurl:{{NAMESPACE}}:{{PAGENAME}}|action=edit}} here]'''</span> or the tab '''edit this page''' above (or the views section for obscure browsers), make your changes and click the '''Save page''' button when finished. Content will '''not''' stay permanently; this page is '''automatically cleaned''' every 12 hours, although it tends to be overwritten by other testing users much faster than that.'' ''Please do not place copyrighted, offensive, or libelous content in the sandbox(es). If you have any questions regarding [[Wikipedia]], please see [[Wikipedia:Questions]]. Thanks!'' :''This page is a virtual sandbox on Wikipedia. For uses of sandboxes, see the article [[sandbox]]. ''You may also use the templates'' [[Template:X1|X1]], [[Template:X2|X2]], [[Template:X3|X3]], [[Template:X4|X4]], [[Template:X5|X5]], [[Template:X6|X6]], [[Template:X7|X7]], [[Template:X8|X8]], and [[Template:X9|X9]]</span> for experimental purposes.<br /> ''For categories use'' <span style="font-size: 12px;"> [[:Category:X1]] for experimental purposes.<br /> ''Try other sandboxes:'' [[Wikipedia:Sandbox|Main Sandbox]] {{!}} [[Wikipedia:Tutorial (Editing)/sandbox|Tutorial Sandbox 1]] {{!}} [[Wikipedia:Tutorial (Formatting)/sandbox|Tutorial Sandbox 2]] {{!}} [[Wikipedia:Tutorial (Wikipedia links)/sandbox|Tutorial Sandbox 3]] {{!}} [[Wikipedia:Tutorial (External links)/sandbox|Tutorial Sandbox 4]] {{!}} [[Wikipedia:Tutorial (Keep in mind)/sandbox|Tutorial Sandbox 5]]<br>''For a sandbox of your own, [[WP:User page#How to create a user subpage|create a user subpage]].'' |imageright={{Shortcut|WP:SB|WP:SAND|WP:SANDBOX|WP:TEST|WP:FOO}}<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><div style="border: 1px solid black; text-align: center; padding:5px; font-size: small; background: #eeeeee; white-space: nowrap;"> More info:<br> [[Wikipedia:Introduction|Introduction to Wikipedia]]<br> [[Wikipedia:About the Sandbox|About the Sandbox]]<br> [[Wikipedia:Tutorial|Editing tutorial]]</div> }}</includeonly><noinclude> {{template doc}} {{pp-template|small=yes}} </noinclude><includeonly> <!--Sandbox for other languages of Wikipedia--> [[af:Wikipedia:Sandput]] [[ar:ويكيبيديا:ساحة التجربة]] [[als:Wikipedia:Spielwiese]] [[ang:Wikipedia:Sandbox]] [[bg:Уикипедия:Пясъчник]] [[bn:Wikipedia:Sandbox]] [[ca:Viquipèdia:Pàgina de proves]] [[cs:Wikipedie:Pískoviště]] [[cy:Wicipedia:Bocs_swnd]] [[da:Wikipedia:Sandkassen]] [[de:Wikipedia:Spielwiese]] [[el:Βικιπαίδεια:Αμμοδοχείο]] [[eo:Vikipedio:Testejo]] [[es:Wikipedia:Zona de pruebas]] [[eu:Wikipedia:Proba orria]] [[fi:Wikipedia:Hiekkalaatikko]] [[fr:Wikipédia:Bac à sable]] [[fy:Wikipedy:Kladblok]] [[ga:Vicipid:Clár dubh]] [[gd:Tigh-cluiche]] [[he:ויקיפדיה:ארגז חול]] [[hr:Wikipedija:Stranica za vježbanje]] [[hu:Wikipédia:Homokozó]] [[ia:Wikipedia:Sabliera]] [[id:Wikipedia:Bak pasir]] [[it:Wikipedia:Sandbox]] [[ja:Wikipedia:サンドボックス]] [[ko:위키백과:연습장]] [[la:Vicipaedia:Harenarium]] [[li:Wikipedia:Zandjbak]] [[mg:Wikipedia:Fasika toerana]] [[mi:Wikipedia:Papa tākaro]] [[ml:വിക്കിപീഡിയ:എഴുത്തുകളരി]] [[mr:विकिपीडिया:धूळपाटी]] [[ms:Wikipedia:Kotak pasir]] [[nds:Wikipedia:Speelwisch]] [[nl:Wikipedia:Zandbak]] [[nn:Wikipedia:Sankasse]] [[no:Wikipedia:Sandkasse]] [[pl:Wikipedia:Brudnopis]] [[pt:Wikipedia:Página de testes]] [[ro:Wikipedia:Cutia cu nisip]] [[ru:Википедия:Песочница]] [[si:Wikipedia:Peskovnik]] [[simple:Wikipedia:Sandbox]] [[sr:Википедија:Песак]] [[sq:Wikipedia:Livadhi]] [[sh:Wikipedia:Eksperimenti]] [[sv:Wikipedia:Sandlådan]] [[th:วิกิพีเดีย:กระบะทราย]] [[tr:Vikipedi:Deneme tahtası]] [[vi:Wikipedia:Chỗ thử]] [[zh:Wikipedia:沙盒]] </includeonly>
No offensive words
How about adding a message into the template telling NOT to use offensive words in the sandbox. This is in response to these comment I came across:
“ | Maybe so, but warning the user for vandalizing the sandbox, and then suggesting that the user instead experiment on the sandbox, may be a bit difficult to follow.
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” |
You could add this message to the template
“ | Hi -- you are welcome to experiment, but the sandbox is a public place, so don't try to delete it and don't put obscenities there. (This is taken from User_talk:Vanlalizer_warner) | ” |
Bot cleaning frequency
I noticed that the bot seemed to run every 3 hours, not every 12, when I was using Wikipedia:Tutorial_(Editing)/sandbox. Could someone please update the template(s)? Dockhorn (talk) 19:06, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
Proposed minor change
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Admins, for the WP:SANDBOX heading, please change "see the article sandbox" to "see the disambiguation page sandbox". Thanks! Samwb123T-C-@ 15:35, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
- I've changed article -> page. I don't think it is necessary to include "disambiguation" as these are newbies who use the sandbox and will not understand what that is anyway. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 13:29, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
- OK. Thanks! Samwb123T-C-@ 15:41, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
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Where it says:
For a sandbox of your own, create a user subpage.
A link could be added to Special:Mypage/Sandbox
or a preloaded version to make it faster
Thx. ManishEarthTalk • Stalk 15:31, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
Change wording
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"every 12 hours" should be "every hour", as that's far more accurate. The bot actually seems to be cleaning it about every 40 minutes or so. Gary King (talk) 00:45, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
- Not done - see User:SoxBot, Sandbot cleans the sandbox every 12 hours, unless the header get edited. Ronhjones (Talk) 22:55, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
To keep the inexperienced in the field of know
{{Shortcut|WP:SB|WP:SAND|WP:SANDBOX|WP:TEST|WP:FOO}}
becomes:
<noinclude>{{Shortcut|WP:SB|WP:SAND|WP:SANDBOX|WP:TEST|WP:FOO}}</noinclude> mechamind90 22:21, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
- Why hide the shortcuts? Gary King (talk) 23:14, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
- I really do think that users who don't use the URL line would be lost, or they would have to deliberately vandalize a page for Warning #1 that says "Please use the sandbox". mechamind90 16:31, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
- You can use shortcuts in the search box, not just through the URL. Gary King (talk) 16:40, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
- I really do think that users who don't use the URL line would be lost, or they would have to deliberately vandalize a page for Warning #1 that says "Please use the sandbox". mechamind90 16:31, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
???
"Template Sandbox" is not showing up on any of those four templates except the template Template:Please leave this line alone (template sandbox heading). Why? 70.171.224.249 (talk) 16:40, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
"tab edit this page"
I suggest changing "tab edit this page" -> "the 'edit' tab" -- Harry Wood (talk) 10:47, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
Update cy
cy:Wicipedia:Pwll tywod. -- Xxglennxx ★talkcontributions★ 17:55, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
- Done. You can also use the {{editprotected}} template to request edits to protected pages.
decltype
(talk) 18:31, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
Gaelic ( [[Ga:]] ) removed its sandbox last year.
Link to Sinhala Wiki
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"[[si:Wikipedia:Peskovnik]]" is wrong. Please correct it to "[[si:විකිපීඩියා:වැලිපිල්ල]]". --Lee (talk) 08:14, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
- Done — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 08:37, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks. :-) --Lee (talk) 16:21, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
Edit request
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Could someone please add the following to it please?
<includeonly>[[Category:Wikipedia]]</includeonly>
It should add the category "Wikipedia" to the sandbox. Hazard-SJ Talk 07:02, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
- Not done: Category:Wikipedia is only for actual articles about Wikipedia, while this template is for the administration of Wikipedia. You may wish to search through Category:Wikipedia administration for the correct category. Dabomb87 (talk) 15:46, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
Edit request
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Can someone replace the Edit This Page with Edit since the regular skin is Vector. Gfoley4 (talk) 01:15, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
Move shortcuts inside template
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Delete the transclusion of Template:Shortcut. Add this parameter to ombox: imageright = {{Ombox/Shortcut|WP:SB|WP:SAND|WP:SANDBOX|WP:TEST|WP:FOO}}
.
--Bsherr (talk) 15:23, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
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Please undo the last edit to the extent that it mistakenly moved interwiki links to the documentation from the template. Those interwiki links are to the sandbox, not the sandbox template. They are added to the sandbox page by "includeonly" transclusion from this template. The purpose of this method is so that they do not have to be present in the code of the sandbox page itself, where they can cause confusion to testers. Thanks. --Bsherr (talk) 04:54, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
- Done — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 12:10, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
Add sandbox image
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Please replace image parameter with image=[[File:Sandbox.png|75px]]
. This symbol is used existing sandbox templates, and promotes recognition. --Bsherr (talk) 20:06, 12 November 2010 (UTC)
- It's a suitable image, but this is a long message and the image just leaves less room for the text. We've already got the imageright taking up the right hand side. I'm not sure this is a good idea. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 23:37, 12 November 2010 (UTC)
- I've testcased it, and at 1280-pixel display width, it adds no length to the template. --Bsherr (talk) 00:32, 13 November 2010 (UTC)
- Also, once this change is done and the sandbox is then available, I have changes to propose to make the template simpler and two lines shorter at 1280px. They're at User:Bsherr/sandbox2 right now. --Bsherr (talk) 00:54, 13 November 2010 (UTC)
- I would support shortening this template. There is no need for a lot of the content, I think. However this change does make the template longer (on my monitor at least) and so I cannot support it. As you do not have a consensus I will have to decline this request. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 12:56, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
- What resolution do you use?
Did you take a look at User:Bsherr/sandbox2?Any comments? I guess I'll propose that now. It's in the sandbox. --Bsherr (talk) 15:33, 15 November 2010 (UTC)- Version in sandbox is further modified. --Bsherr (talk) 16:51, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
- Okay you've done a nice job there. The wording is definitely improved. I still have qualms about the image and shortcut box though as they squash the text and make the template longer than it could be. If you're set on the image, how about removing the shortcut list. I think WP:Sandbox is short enough and I don't think new users will understand what that box means anyway. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 10:01, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
- As an alternative to removing the symbol or shortcut box, I've set the width of the template to the full page. How about that? --Bsherr (talk) 15:55, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
- Ok,
- As an alternative to removing the symbol or shortcut box, I've set the width of the template to the full page. How about that? --Bsherr (talk) 15:55, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
- Okay you've done a nice job there. The wording is definitely improved. I still have qualms about the image and shortcut box though as they squash the text and make the template longer than it could be. If you're set on the image, how about removing the shortcut list. I think WP:Sandbox is short enough and I don't think new users will understand what that box means anyway. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 10:01, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
- Version in sandbox is further modified. --Bsherr (talk) 16:51, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
- What resolution do you use?
- I would support shortening this template. There is no need for a lot of the content, I think. However this change does make the template longer (on my monitor at least) and so I cannot support it. As you do not have a consensus I will have to decline this request. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 12:56, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
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- Please replace with code at sandbox. --Bsherr (talk) 18:34, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
- Sorry, but the blue in the navbox and the orange in ombox look quite ugly. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 17:35, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
- Orange is the color for an ombox warning, and blue is the color of all navboxes. What would you have done? I don't think it's appropriate to contravene the Manual of Style for a dislike of the colors. --Bsherr (talk) 17:47, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
- I suppose a case could be made for making the ombox warning yellow. Would that be better? --Bsherr (talk) 17:50, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
- Sorry, but the blue in the navbox and the orange in ombox look quite ugly. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 17:35, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
- Please replace with code at sandbox. --Bsherr (talk) 18:34, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
Made my suggestions on the sandbox along with explanatory edit summaries. What do you think? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 18:30, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
- The removal warning can be implemented as an edit notice instead. The sandbox navbox can be added to WP:About the sandbox instead. But I think the shortcut box should remain, since that information is not conveyed anywhere else. Would that work for you? --Bsherr (talk) 19:18, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
- I still don't think the information is relevant to the people who are using the sandbox, but I have restored it for now. However 5 shortcuts seems a tad excessive, how about we at least trim a couple? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 11:10, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
- I don't think there's much benefit gained from omitting the information. I think it's unlikely to increase the size of the template. And I think all of the shortcuts are reasonable. Reducing the number from five to three offers marginal benefit, if any. It's unchanged relative to the status quo, so I'm inclined to err on the side of no change. What do you think about implementing the sandbox as it appears now? --Bsherr (talk) 16:20, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
- Done — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 17:00, 25 November 2010 (UTC)
- I don't think there's much benefit gained from omitting the information. I think it's unlikely to increase the size of the template. And I think all of the shortcuts are reasonable. Reducing the number from five to three offers marginal benefit, if any. It's unchanged relative to the status quo, so I'm inclined to err on the side of no change. What do you think about implementing the sandbox as it appears now? --Bsherr (talk) 16:20, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
- I still don't think the information is relevant to the people who are using the sandbox, but I have restored it for now. However 5 shortcuts seems a tad excessive, how about we at least trim a couple? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 11:10, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
Propose rename
The name of this template irritates me. It would be clearer and neater to move it to Template:Sandbox heading. If a request not to move it is required we could use HTML comment, e.g.
{{Sandbox heading}} <!-- Please leave this line alone! -->
— Martin (MSGJ · talk) 10:04, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
- What if we move it but preserve the existing name as a redirect? Then the bots can continue to use the "Please leave this line alone..." in the sandboxes, if consensus wills it. --Bsherr (talk) 04:48, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
- Works for me. I'll move it now. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 18:31, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
Edit request
{{edit protected}} One link needs updating, so that it is not a redirect (causing the pg to bounce in IE8). Please see sandbox for updated code: [2]. Thanks, --Funandtrvl (talk) 04:59, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
- Sandbox now also includes conditionals for implementation on WT:Sandbox. No effect until that template is redirected here. Requesting synchronizing with these edits. --Bsherr (talk) 23:14, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
- Adding last set of conditionals for template to operate on Sandbox talk page.
{{edit protected}}
- Please copy sandbox to parent page. --Bsherr (talk) 04:28, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
- Not done: - sorry, copying the sandbox itself to the template for its top would create an infinite loop. — Jeff G. ツ 04:41, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
- Please copy sandbox to parent page. --Bsherr (talk) 04:28, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
{{edit protected}}
- Please copy the code at Template:Sandbox heading/sandbox to replace Template:Sandbox heading. --Bsherr (talk) 04:44, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
- Done. --Bsherr (talk) 22:31, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
- Please copy the code at Template:Sandbox heading/sandbox to replace Template:Sandbox heading. --Bsherr (talk) 04:44, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
Edit request
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Please add Estonian sandbox interwiki "[[et:Vikipeedia:Liivakast]]". Thanks. Pelmeen10 (talk) 17:41, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
- Done — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 16:23, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
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Please add the sandbox to Category:Wikipedia administration. It was suggested at Wikipedia talk:About the Sandbox#Categorising Wikipedia:Sandbox and there was no objection. Thank you. McLerristarr | Mclay1 11:05, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
- Disabled as this is under discussion at the link provided. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 09:22, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
Edit request from Nnemo, 12 March 2011: "every 12 hours"
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Everytime I go play in the sandbox, I see "12" at the end of the line, which is troubling. This is bad typography.
Please change "every 12 hours" to "every 12 hours".
Thanks.
Nnemo (talk) 01:38, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
- Done — Tivedshambo (t/c) 07:22, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
Prot edit request
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Please change;
Welcome to the Wikipedia Sandbox. This page allows you to carry out experiments.
...to...
Welcome to this Sandbox page, which allows you to carry out experiments.
and
Please remove;
|[[Wikipedia:About the Sandbox|About the Sandbox]]
...from the 'further' part.
Reason: To make it generic. This change means the template can be used, as is (without complex 'if' code) on other pages, such as the tutorial sandboxes Wikipedia:Tutorial/Editing/sandbox, Wikipedia:Tutorial/Formatting/sandbox, etc.
I am currently working on a bot to regularly clear the sandbox pages; work-in-progress, see Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/ChzzBot II. (The bot which previously cleared the main sandbox has failed.) Chzz ► 15:10, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
- Addendum: also, please change;
this page is automatically cleaned regularly, though it tends to be overwritten by other testing users much sooner than that.
..to..
this page is automatically cleaned regularly, and may be overwritten by other testing users.
(because it makes more sense)
Personal sandbox
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Instead of sending newbies off to read about subpages, let's add this:
If you have registered an account you can find or create your own user sandbox here. For future easy access, you can put
{{My sandbox}}
on your userpage.
This would replace the "for a sandbox of your own" line. Rd232 public talk 02:45, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
- Do you want me to unblock your main account? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 16:30, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
- No thanks (I can do this myself, and I choose not to; I've ended up using my public account for some discussions related to the current arbcom case because I forgot to block it first, and then drifted into the odd unrelated thing, like this, but it's fairly limited. Sorry for the trouble, but it's not entirely bad to be reminded what it's like to have to ask for this sort of thing to be done :) ). Rd232 public talk 22:13, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
- I find it slightly ridiculous. Request request actioned — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 08:26, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
- No thanks (I can do this myself, and I choose not to; I've ended up using my public account for some discussions related to the current arbcom case because I forgot to block it first, and then drifted into the odd unrelated thing, like this, but it's fairly limited. Sorry for the trouble, but it's not entirely bad to be reminded what it's like to have to ask for this sort of thing to be done :) ). Rd232 public talk 22:13, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
Clearing sandox
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I think we should add:
For clearing the sandbox, click here and save the page.
What say? Avenue X at Cicero (talk) 20:31, 12 September 2011 (UTC)
- Would you put your proposed code in the /sandbox please? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 08:38, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
- I think we can put it where I did, although it may be reworded. Avenue X at Cicero (talk) 16:51, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
- You seem to have put it in twice? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 16:04, 14 September 2011 (UTC)
- I think we can put it where I did, although it may be reworded. Avenue X at Cicero (talk) 16:51, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
- Oops...thank for fixing it. Avenue X at Cicero (talk) 19:07, 14 September 2011 (UTC)
- deployed — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 10:04, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
- Oops...thank for fixing it. Avenue X at Cicero (talk) 19:07, 14 September 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks man! Avenue X at Cicero (talk) 14:10, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
Edit request from Avenue X at Cicero on 10:11, 18 September 2011 (UTC)
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Minor problem. Please copy paste the latest edit in the /sandbox. Avenue X at Cicero (talk) 17:10, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
- Foo? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 11:56, 16 September 2011 (UTC)
- Alright, I removed the edit summary. Avenue X at Cicero (talk) 12:46, 16 September 2011 (UTC)
- TN'd the "edit protected" - 'coz... we're done here? Chzz ► 02:10, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
- Alright, I removed the edit summary. Avenue X at Cicero (talk) 12:46, 16 September 2011 (UTC)
- Unfortunately not. It was the edit summary that needs to be changed now. Avenue X at Cicero (talk) 09:06, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
- In the live template, the edit summary is "Clearing sandbox" [3] - isn't that OK? Chzz ► 18:39, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
- Unfortunately not. It was the edit summary that needs to be changed now. Avenue X at Cicero (talk) 09:06, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
- Well, we need two links, one for editing in a clear sandbox, and the other for clearing the sandbox, like in the page notice. I have made the necessary changes in the sandbox and it can be copy pasted now. Avenue X at Cicero (talk) 10:11, 18 September 2011 (UTC)
- As I mentioned above, I feel the inclusion of two separate links for very similar purposes is excessive. I'm declining this request for now. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 11:20, 20 September 2011 (UTC)
- Well, we need two links, one for editing in a clear sandbox, and the other for clearing the sandbox, like in the page notice. I have made the necessary changes in the sandbox and it can be copy pasted now. Avenue X at Cicero (talk) 10:11, 18 September 2011 (UTC)
Edit request
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The link in "If you want to start editing in a clear sandbox, click here." should be updated to the latest header: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Sandbox&oldid=452454803 Ryuku 02:49, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
- Ugh, this seems to be bloat, because all this information is in the editnotice. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 11:44, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
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Please add kk:Уикипедия:Құмжәшік. Thank you. IluvLovato123 (talk) 08:41, 27 December 2011 (UTC)
- Not done:
{{edit protected}}
is usually not required for edits to the documentation, categories, or interlanguage links of templates using a documentation subpage. Use the 'edit' link at the top of the green "Template documentation" box to edit the documentation subpage. Anomie⚔ 15:44, 27 December 2011 (UTC)- I am not requesting the documentation. I am requesting the heading to include the Kazakh interwiki (kk:Уикипедия:Құмжәшік) link to the "Sandbox for other languages of Wikipedia" section. --IluvLovato123 (talk) 23:59, 27 December 2011 (UTC)
- Done -- WOSlinker (talk) 12:17, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
- I am not requesting the documentation. I am requesting the heading to include the Kazakh interwiki (kk:Уикипедия:Құмжәшік) link to the "Sandbox for other languages of Wikipedia" section. --IluvLovato123 (talk) 23:59, 27 December 2011 (UTC)
Edit request
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I would like to edit this template to update a link. Kiko4564 (talk) 20:51, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
- You'll have to tell an administrator exactly what wants changing, or they can't do it. You can't edit it directly because you are not an admin. This isn't a request for two-minute adminship while you edit the link, you have to say what needs doing. Rcsprinter (whisper) (Contribs)
(Not Rcs) 21:04, 25 February 2012 (UTC)- The link I want changing is http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Sandbox&action=edit&oldid=446999758&edit&summary=Clearing+sandbox&minor=yes here to http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Sandbox&action=edit&oldid=478829620&edit&summary=Clearing+sandbox&minor=yes — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kiko4564 (talk) 21:07, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
- A similar request above (from 26 september) asked for that link to include extra information in the edit box and it was declined. I suggest you try and get a consensus for this change. Tra (Talk) 15:00, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
- The link I want changing is http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Sandbox&action=edit&oldid=446999758&edit&summary=Clearing+sandbox&minor=yes here to http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Sandbox&action=edit&oldid=478829620&edit&summary=Clearing+sandbox&minor=yes — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kiko4564 (talk) 21:07, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
Edit request
Please, add this interwiki-link - vep:Vikipedii:Leteaidik. Thank you so much.--Tamara Ustinova (talk) 14:26, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
Edit request on 5 August 2012
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The image used here has been superseded by File:Bucket in the sand.svg. Please replace it.
Thanks, 117Avenue (talk) 02:06, 5 August 2012 (UTC)
- Note: Existing image File:Sandbox.png is PD so the presence of empty
|link=
is permitted; however File:Bucket in the sand.svg is CC-BY-SA so the image must be linkable for attribution purposes. Some people feel that no images used in banners like this should be linked; on that basis, the image used should be PD or licensed CC0. --Redrose64 (talk) 09:12, 5 August 2012 (UTC)- Not done: Besides requiring a link, the new image is also very different. If anything, File:Sandbox.svg would be a better choice. Anomie⚔ 19:46, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
- Yes it would, I'll change the links on the Commons. 117Avenue (talk) 05:02, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
- Not done: Besides requiring a link, the new image is also very different. If anything, File:Sandbox.svg would be a better choice. Anomie⚔ 19:46, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
Protection confusing
The template page is semi-protected: it has the gray lock and I can edit it (I'm not an administrator). Yet this talk page says the page "permanently protected from editing". Should the page be protected, or the notice changed? ~ihaveamac [talk|contribs] 19:18, 24 November 2012 (UTC)
- The admin who removed the full protection must have been unaware of the notice of this talk page. 117Avenue (talk) 06:27, 25 November 2012 (UTC)
- It was under the red padlock, meaning permanently protected. It means it should never be unprotected I believe. ~ihaveamac [talk|contribs] 23:09, 25 November 2012 (UTC)
Template text
We really should add something like "do not remove this template from the page." That way people will more likely know that the template is the only thing that cannot be deleted. 166.137.100.46 (talk) 01:41, 7 April 2013 (UTC)
Edit request on 2 August 2013
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there's an unnecessary space between "VisualEditor" and the comma after it ירק (talk) 19:29, 2 August 2013 (UTC)
- True, so Done --Redrose64 (talk) 19:52, 2 August 2013 (UTC)