Talk:Yin and yang

Qinway Qigong link

I've removed a link that seems to be plain old advertising: I saw a bit of content on the linked site that seemed generally informational (though I can't speak to its real relevance to this page or to the subject of qigong), but it all seemed to be leading you toward signing up for some workshops and/or buying some products. (Any site whose front page has "before" and "after" pictures . . .)

From what I've seen of Wikipedia and read on the help pages, I get the pretty clear impression that this is not the sort of thing that should be here. Apologies if I'm dead wrong.Iralith 22:15, 18 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Dualism?

Is this the best way of expressing this? Yes, there are two elements but Yin-Yang sees them as a harmonious whole rather than two. The point seems to be to learn how to leave the dualistic view behind.

--24.87.154.112 (talk) 01:09, 13 November 2021 (UTC)

Problem with symbol

Ancient version of the Yin and Yang (no dots)

The symbol used as of today is incorrect. The proper Yin Yang symbol contains a dot of black in the white section and a dot of black in the white section. It represents that each side also contains the opposite of itself (non-duality) - this is a vital aspect of Yin and Yang. I have no idea how to change the photo, but it’s important that it be corrected. Sareyberry (talk) 04:40, 20 December 2021 (UTC)

I've restored the original image. No upload required, it was already in commons. Checking the edit history though, it looks like people have been vandalizing the logo for years. 2606:6000:4FC0:11:45F1:5DCF:DDA4:B02B (talk) 06:36, 13 April 2022 (UTC)

易有太極， 是生兩儀， 兩儀生四象， 四象生八卦，

Yì yǒu tàijí ， shì shēng liǎngyí ， liǎngyí shēng sìxiàng ， sìxiàng shēng bāguà ，

In Change there is the Supreme Polarity, (太極; Taiji),    which generates the Two Modes. (兩儀; Liangyi)    The Two Modes generate the Four Images, (四象; Sixiang)    and the Four Images generate the Eight Trigrams. (八卦; Bagua).

Yin/Yang symbol ≠ yin and yang. Yin/Yang symbol = taijitu = Four Symbols = Great Yin and Great Yang (drops) + Small Ying and Small Yang (dots). — Ирука¹³ 14:55, 22 June 2023 (UTC)

@Yue: The context is that you use taijitu, which consists of 4 characters, but you only talk about two - yin and yang. — Ирука¹³ 14:04, 23 June 2023 (UTC)

connection with Klein Bottle

Yin and Yang symbol is a "flat" repesentation of a continuous flow ou change, maybe better described by the Klein bottle? 2804:7F0:BA00:EC29:1ECC:D6FF:FEBA:4F02 (talk) 15:17, 20 November 2022 (UTC)

Unless reliable sources have likened the symbol to a Klein bottle, it won't be described as such in the article. See WP:OR. Largoplazo (talk) 15:29, 20 November 2022 (UTC)

Astronomical origin?

It seems self-evident that the symbol visualizes the “steady“ lunar cycle, i.e. new moon, waxing moon, full moon, waning moon. I am surprised this is not stated. 2A01:C22:B525:C800:5081:1221:7CF7:79C1 (talk) 07:28, 9 September 2023 (UTC)

Wikipedia reports on facts published in reliable sources, so we would need reliable sources that discuss this before mentioning it in the article. Largoplazo (talk) 11:35, 9 September 2023 (UTC)

That would be hard work. But I would refer to the new simplified Chinese characters of Yin and Yang. These show the symbols for the moon and the sun, respectively, together with a radical that I do not immediately recognize. 2A02:3100:303C:AE00:18A6:31CC:2B95:16E3 (talk) 10:45, 10 September 2023 (UTC)

Just checked. The radical means hill, or mound. A good spot to observe the sky, but it is probably a coincidence. 2A02:3100:303C:AE00:18A6:31CC:2B95:16E3 (talk) 10:52, 10 September 2023 (UTC)