Talk:Vocaloid

35% equals one third

"… noted that when this number reached 35% it would mean 1/3 …" Thank you, Captain Obvious! But you missed it by 1⅔%. 184.18.45.118 (talk) 22:21, 24 May 2014 (UTC)

I went ahead and removed it.--十八 23:45, 24 May 2014 (UTC)

Odin to Joy

> setting their sights on trying to overturn the lack of interest in the software in Europe

When the article writes vocaloids, like Miku achieved significantly less success in Europe, it should be understood that often times they were not allowed to achieve success. Consider for example Germany, which expressly asked that no german language vocaloid persona shall be released and when A. Merkel asks, with the world's most healthy economy backing her, it's hard to ignore.

For background, one needs to understand that in Germany, owing to undescribable WW2 horrors, far right propaganda is constitutionally banned and the ban is enforced airtight. They have the BND, a kind of FBI clone but with extra "thought police" powers, to root out neo-nazis and the population largely cooperates in the effort to break up any cells. Try to record ryo's "Liebe ist rassen-Krieg" fandub with girlfriend and a neighbour will report it or BND will find the vocal source, based on its total phone network voice print collection. Punishment can be up to 6 years in prison, so the effort is really efficient.

But if there was a "teutonic" vocaloid, a single talented extremist invididual, working in a basement with laptop and headphone, could compose and vocalize, completely unseen and unheard by anybody else, the next Horst Wassel-ish song. He could drop it onto the net via VPN over Tor, essentially untraceable. Any aspining neo-anon-Leni Riefenstahl could then make an MMD video for it, resulting in a new "Triumph of the Willes" that hypnotizes young people with ubermensch aryan dreams and BND has a problem on hand. Thereby vocaloid.de is currently unwanted. A similar situation exists with arabic and probably nobody wants beheading vids with vocaloid BGM, although fortunately, the most extreme branches of islam ban music almost thoroughly. The potential for dangerous abuse is often missed by Japan-centric thinkers. 82.131.134.66 (talk) 11:27, 19 November 2014 (UTC)

Both the English and the Spanish vocals, are what their referring to there. The English version of vocaloid was aimed originally at Europe, it failed to take off in america back in the 2004 period. The reason why a lack of these companies is done to there being no one to support the development currently. Otherwise nothing you said will impact the vocaloid. Vocaloid is a software, whomever buys the software can write what they want in terms of music. Making a german vocaloid, for example, is not bad and it will fall down to the producer who made the song. I own 4 Vocaloids myself, once 5 and pretty much anyone can buy and own one. Anyway this isn't what the talk section is for on wikipedia. 109.146.172.97 (talk) 11:44, 29 November 2014 (UTC)

Changing the page layout

Hi guys, just letting everyone know that this page is going to be overhaulled within the next few days. I'm going to change a few things related to the way Vocaloid is handled. This page continues to grow and its becoming problematic.

the current plan is to have a main page for the franchise, break up V1-V4 into separate pages. the list of vocaloids page will be retired and the vocals moved onto the separate pages due to previous attempts to delete it. This page is getting a little bit out of control in some sections. The engine sections are now bulky enough to act as their own stand alone pages souly so there shouldn't be any problems.

I'll likely put it up as Mortal Kombat does it, except "Characters" will be "versions" or something. V1 will be called "Vocaloid (software)". Some things are related to one engine, but there is now at this point a mess. things are confusing and you can't tell at first glance whats is engine specific in sections like "merchandising" or "cultural influence".

I'll log into my main account to do this, hopefully wikipedia will let me sort this without problems. I added pages like CeVIO and Sinsy recently and I haven't had any problems with those. 86.139.198.92 (talk) 20:01, 3 December 2014 (UTC)

What a joke is it ? ... since a few days ago, I'm editing the article (reformatting the citations as a 1st step), and now I'm going to reflect 1st result on the page... anyway, best regards, --Clusternote (talk) 18:10, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

My apologies, I can't do what needs to be done in one hit by myself due to the amount of things that need to be moved.If nothing was done the problem was going to keep growing. Angel Emfrbl (talk) 19:45, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

Just Vocalowitter and iVocaloid to write up at this stage. The new pages allow editors to go into more depth on each packages if they wish (I've thrown up a basic description of each for now) and saves this page handling everything including the kitchen sink. Angel Emfrbl (talk) 21:13, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

The "poid" series

I'm going to highlight it here because this needs to be noted. "Megpoid" is NOT an alternative name for "Gumi". The "poid" series by internet co., Ltd have a separate name for mascot/character/personification to the software itself. "Megpoid" is the software, Gumi is the character. Its the same for Gackpo and Ryuto, their the mascot names and their software are called "Gackpoid" and "Gachapoid". The "poid" series names of their software is taken from the Japanese way of saying "like-vocaloid" and is a portmanteau play on words; the box is saying "Megumi-like Vocaloid", "Gackt-like vocaloid" and "gachapin-like Vocaloid".

The only other Vocaloid to do this is Flower, the software is "V Flower" and the mascot is just "Flower". The "v" just means "vocaloid Flower", this is a lot simpler to understand then the situation with the poid series at least.

Unfortunately there is no single source I can give to explain the situation and every site at this point will likely be rejected by wikipedia, in other words the original explanations are long lost. 31.54.165.129 (talk) 10:57, 14 December 2014 (UTC)

Sections redone?

The "Marketing" and "cultural impact" sections could use revamping. Marketing is out of date and needs to be broadened to include all vocaloids.... Cultural Impact is completely out of date. I think its best overall the main Vocaloid page stays more broad and focuses on the technology, letting other pages handle anything relevant. 86.162.157.185 (talk) 09:59, 10 January 2015 (UTC)

Is there a chance?

Some Vocaloids like Gumi, Gackpo, Kagamines, Ia, Yukari, Kaito, Meiko and Luka could do with their own pages like Miku has... I wouldn't make pages for most of the other vocaloids as there still isn't a lot to fluff them out. There might also be room for VY1 and VY2. VY1 should have a lot to talk about her. I wouldn't make these pages myself though. I'm not interested in being vocaloid-specific here, just sticking to the main software itself. :-/ 86.162.157.185 (talk) 09:59, 10 January 2015 (UTC)

Honestly, I don't think any Vocaloids other than Miku have achieved enough notability outside the fandom to warrant their own articles. Chevsapher (talk) 23:55, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

Page not in category box

This page of Vocaloid is for some reason not included anymore in the category box at the bottom of the page. But this page is has the most information about the Vocaloid Software. Is it a possibility to put it back in the box? Because the page about Vocaloid(1) took over it's link.
Or maybe, why don't we rename this page to something more general instead of just Vocaloid? Then this can be a page to go directly to everything about the Vocaloid software and other pages related to Vocaloid. Wariostarx (talk) 09:04, 8 February 2015 (UTC)

This page is linked in the header of that box. You won't see it on this page because you're already on it. _dk (talk) 09:18, 8 February 2015 (UTC)

I didn't know that the header linked here. And I was not looking there, because the page where you are is marked black, but it wasn't. Wariostarx (talk) 09:41, 8 February 2015 (UTC)

Someone please add a table for famous vocaloids with their pictures

A table for famous vocaloids (e.g hatsune miku) would be much more easier for readers (like me). Komchi^✉_☆ 15:34, 28 March 2015 (UTC)

A problem with that is, if we do that, we take a high risk with copyright issues. One/two or so is alright (the ones from crypton in Creative Commons would be okay), but all of them would be a bit risky I think... That is just my opinion, but I like the idea. Wariostarx (talk) 18:33, 30 March 2015 (UTC)

Been there, done that, it was a bad idea. Someone is adding pages for the vocaloids over time. You have the Voaloid wikia also. Let the mai page remain focused on the software itself. Last time it had information on Vocaloids, it just became a bait for more and more information on them and other things paid the price. 84.13.238.218 (talk) 12:00, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

The Vocaloid wikia serves a better purpose at this. Angel Emfrbl (talk) 18:25, 4 April 2016 (UTC)

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• archive links not functional, content seems permanently dead. Marketing section requires a rewrite anyway, so hopefully these cites are phased out eventually tonyxc600 comms logs 17:45, 8 April 2018 (UTC)

In regards to "Reception"

Much of the information regarding the lack of success of English vocals seems to be somewhat outdated. While English vocals still struggle to reach the levels of popularity of Japanese counterparts, they have seen a noticable increase in sucess in the last five years. Avanna was Zero-G's best selling product three years in a row, for example. Should this section be updated to reflect that?MikuFan39 (talk) 04:29, 26 October 2017 (UTC)

Notability of entire 'derivative products' section

With the sole exception of MikuMikuDance, I am having a hard time justifying the notability of anything within that entire section, hardware of software, not to mention the layout is absolutely hideous. Are there any objections on deleting the entirety of that section except for MMD? tonyxc600 comms logs 13:35, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

• • Hi, object as its valid content and much of it is referenced. Not everything has to be notable within an article, thanks Atlantic306 (talk)
    • Thanks for handling the prod & merge of these articles. The issue is that it feels like the definition of 'derivative works' is being stretched thin here and goes into WP:FAN territory. At least some, if not all of the items are far too obscure to be of any interest to readers, e.g. Unity with Vocaloid or MMDAgent. If we included all apps, games & services along these notability levels, it would likely be hundreds of items long. With there being previous consensus in removing the listcruft of Vocaloid characters from the main page (a list which is far more directly relevant to the article), I feel like there should be no reason to keep this runaway list. A simple condensed paragraph along the lines of 'various mobile apps and online trials were offered' should serve the article better, and also open up the section to include other aspects of the fandom like merchandise, manga etc. tonyxc600 comms logs 15:58, 8 June 2018 (UTC)
  • Hi, still oppose the removal as this is mostly referenced content that is part of the history of a very notable company. Additions would have to be brief but I dont see the problem with the current content as it gives a more comprehensive history of the products than selectively slicing it down to give a misleading picture, thanks Atlantic306 (talk)

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VOCALOID

shouldn't this be changed to VOCALOID instead of Vocaloid??? RemiruPlushie (talk) 18:10, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

All caps would be a stylistic choice and is avoided on Wikipedia. See:MOS:ALLCAPS for Wikipedia's rules on this. NekoMoonbow (talk) 02:18, 18 May 2021 (UTC)

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v6

https://www.vocaloid.com/en/vocaloid6/

Vocaloid six is out now, GUMI is updated; 16 new voices are expected/planned; have fun! 47.189.13.184 (talk) 03:06, 14 October 2022 (UTC)