Talk:Tyreek Burwell

Latest comment: 5 years ago by Meters in topic BLP violations

BLP violations edit

The paragraph on family contained some material, which was reliably sourced, however, none of the references mentioned Tyreek Burwell, and there have been no sources presented showing that Asha Burnell is his sister. Hence, this is a BLP violation and has been removed.--Ymblanter (talk) 17:13, 9 December 2018 (UTC)Reply

Even if a source can be found confirming that she is his sister, I consider it completely inappropriate to go into such extensive detail about a relative getting into a fight and receiving probation. It is undue weight. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 17:28, 9 December 2018 (UTC)Reply
If multiple sources have been found which relate him to the events than this relation should be reflected in the article. However, it is my understanding that they have not been found and possibly do not exist.--Ymblanter (talk) 17:39, 9 December 2018 (UTC)Reply
Copying my comment from Cullen's talk page, "It is his sister, but the extend of his involvement per sources is one tweet." Obviously way way too undue, and very problematic since it relates to crimes and is on a BLP. Galobtter (pingó mió) 17:31, 9 December 2018 (UTC)Reply
If this is one tween and no other sources relating him to the incident could be found than the info should not be readded to the article.--Ymblanter (talk) 17:39, 9 December 2018 (UTC)Reply
Agreed with Cullen and Galobtter; this smacks far too much of guilt by association. NorthBySouthBaranof (talk) 18:31, 9 December 2018 (UTC)Reply
Agreed. This should never have been restored, let alone multiple times..Undue and the claims about Tyreek Burwell are not supported by the sources. Meters (talk) 19:46, 9 December 2018 (UTC)Reply

Quick question regarding this: I found an article from the Albany Times Union here: https://www.timesunion.com/tuplus-local/article/Witness-threatened-after-UAlbany-bus-incident-was-6861347.php. Does that help as a source for the tweet? I'm in total agreement that it shouldn't be added back without reliable sources. That being said, I am local to where the bus incident happened, and to the best of my knowledge his only involvement was that misguided tweet. Kjscotte34 (talk) 18:17, 12 December 2018 (UTC)Reply

Without sources in the article confirming the tweet and his relationship to the woman, it was a BLP violation to include this material, as User:Ymblanter stated, and why I stated that it should never have been restored as was.. It appears that he simply made an inappropriate tweet (since removed) after being taken in by his sister's bullshit. Even with sources I agree that it is WP:UNDUE to include all this material. Meters (talk) 21:42, 12 December 2018 (UTC)Reply
Agreed. If we avoid giving this incident undue weight or turning it into a WP:COATRACK for his sister, all we would say is something like, 'He once sent an angry tweet after hearing his sister was assaulted.' It's a sensationalized and racially tinged incident that really has very little to do with this person.Mojo Hand (talk) 22:35, 12 December 2018 (UTC)Reply
I am perfectly okay with that. I was just supplying a RS if we deemed the information as appropriate. Happy Thursday! Kjscotte34 (talk) 11:30, 13 December 2018 (UTC)Reply
I understood that. Sorry my wording looked like I was trying to make a point to you rather than for the general thread. Meters (talk) 17:04, 13 December 2018 (UTC)Reply