Talk:Steven Jay Russell

Latest comment: 9 months ago by Thumperward in topic Short description update

What happened to Phillip Morris? edit

How long did he get? Is he out? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.79.214.224 (talk) 01:48, 8 October 2014 (UTC)Reply

Probable disorder edit

His life pattern seems to fit the classic diagnosis of antisocial personality disorder, particularly as outlined in the book "The Mask of Sanity.

Untitled edit

The part about his early life seems to say that being homoseksual made him criminal.. 81.205.145.79 (talk) 20:49, 24 January 2009 (UTC)Reply

Are you stupid? 128.211.198.168 (talk) 08:48, 9 December 2009 (UTC)Reply
It was illegal based on the sodomy laws. Being outed meant getting fired back then/the anonymous sex doesn't ever really look good. 199.8.13.1 (talk) 06:07, 19 February 2010 (UTC)Reply

photo edit

Can we find an old mugshot and crop it? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 12:01, 1 July 2010 (UTC)Reply

Infobox: Criminal edit

If I'm reading the article right, he's in prison. Shouldn't we change the infobox and occupation to "former..." or "inmate"? Thanks. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 12:06, 1 July 2010 (UTC)Reply

How can you Regard his escapes as 'successful' if he was always recaptured. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.96.91.85 (talk) 22:40, 22 January 2011 (UTC)Reply

Because his recapture was because of subsequent actions, not as part of the escape. 93.107.28.240 (talk) 23:46, 14 February 2013 (UTC)Reply

Because getting caught again wasn't related to the escapings?

link 9 edit

footnote link 9 doesn't work can anyone find the article? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.204.156.10 (talk) 04:01, 24 April 2011 (UTC)Reply

Unsourced Material edit

Article has been tagged for needing sources for over a year, and is a BLP. Please feel free to reincorporate below material into the article with appropriate refs. Thanks! Doniago (talk) 14:31, 12 May 2011 (UTC)Reply

Location? edit

The main article begins by stating he was a business executive who was then fired, then sent to the Harris County jail. Shouldn't that say Houston, Texas? I see in the talk section that this information was removed. Any objection to restoring it?Marzolian (talk) 00:50, 8 October 2014 (UTC)Reply

Assessment comment edit

The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Steven Jay Russell/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.

The part of the "Escaping from prisons" section dealing the the year 1998 is rather confusing. Perhaps it could be re-written to better clarify the chronology of events in that year.

Last edited at 17:50, 24 July 2008 (UTC). Substituted at 07:05, 30 April 2016 (UTC)

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WRONG LINK? edit

It seems the page on the TDCJ website does not exist anymore. I have found another Steven Russell whose info. seems to match this Steven's. Here's the link (what say ye?): https://inmate.tdcj.texas.gov/InmateSearch/viewDetail.action?sid=05138971

Short description update edit

This was obviously wrong, and the additional context is more than important enough to warrant an exception to the observation that most articles only need 40 characters. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 08:36, 30 July 2023 (UTC)Reply

From WP:HOWTOSD - "Editors should keep in mind that short descriptions are meant to distinguish an article from similarly-named articles in search results, and not to define the subject." The shorter description seems sufficient to accomplish that task. DonIago (talk) 14:10, 30 July 2023 (UTC)Reply
It is not an exercise in brevity. Uses such as {{annotated link}} massively benefit from ever-so-slightly longer entries. I've seen utterly no arguments to the contrary save for robotic rules recital. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 19:41, 30 July 2023 (UTC)Reply
Let's see what other editors have to say on the matter then, especially since you can't seem to discuss this without being insulting about it. DonIago (talk) 23:34, 30 July 2023 (UTC)Reply
I will request a third opinion on this matter as we have not reached a consensus. DonIago (talk) 03:54, 19 August 2023 (UTC)Reply
Third opinion: both factors are important. He's only notable because he kept escaping, but 60 characters is long, and there are multiple shorter options:
  • American con-artist with multiple prison escapes (48)
  • American con-artist w/ multiple prison escapes (46)
  • American con-artist with many prison escapes (44)
  • American con-artist w/ many prison escapes (42)
  • Con-artist with multiple prison escapes (39)
  • Conman w/many prison escapes (28)
~ Argenti Aertheri(Chat?) 14:06, 19 August 2023 (UTC)Reply
Thank you. My preference would be for something that's under 40 characters in keeping with WP:SD40, but in the interest of moving along over a fairly minor issue, I'd be fine with anything up to 45 characters. Over 45 seems excessive to me. DonIago (talk) 17:05, 19 August 2023 (UTC)Reply

Fine. I've gone with the 39-char option. I still think that blindly following a guideline which specifically permits a wide variety of exceptions is silly, but this should square that circle (and to be honest I've never been a fan of the way we make nationality so eternally prominent in biographies). Thanks to Argenti Aertheri (talk · contribs) for an amicable resolution here. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 09:29, 20 August 2023 (UTC)Reply