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Requested move 19 July 2019 edit

Latest comment: 4 years ago7 comments5 people in discussion

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. (non-admin closure) Calidum 03:45, 1 August 2019 (UTC)Reply

St. Angela's College, Cork → St Angela's College, Cork – Title style consistency. The majority of those listed in Category:Girls' schools in the Republic of Ireland use the form "St X School". See Wikipedia:Manual of Style#Punctuation and spacing. The "St." form is preferred in American English, while the "St" form is used on the other side of the Atlantic (or, as that policy indicates, "Dr." and "Dr"). 2001:BB6:A84:6558:B411:7B1D:17AE:CB4E (talk) 21:55, 18 July 2019 (UTC)Reply

This is a contested technical request (permalink). Anthony Appleyard (talk) 04:24, 19 July 2019 (UTC)Reply

@2001:BB6:A84:6558:B411:7B1D:17AE:CB4E: And about 71 others, mostly removing the fullstop in "St.", and a few replacing "Saint" by "St", all in names of churches and schools in Ireland, all by the same IPA user, all listed at Wikipedia:Requested moves/Technical requests#Removing fullstop in "St." in churches and schools in Ireland. Best discuss. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 04:24, 19 July 2019 (UTC)Reply

Hi, I have no problem at all with having the move discussed here, and am not particularly bothered if the outcome is "St" or "St."

But there is an inconsistency. The Wikipedia:Manual of Style#Punctuation and spacing seems to favour "St." for American English and "St" for elsewhere (or, as that manual indicates, "Dr." and "Dr"). Most of the Irish schools and churches happen to be "St", without the "St.". Contrary to the "about 71 others" implication, there are certainly well over the close to 150 churches and schools in Ireland required to show 71 as a minority. The simplest solution for the sake of consistency seems therefore to follow the manual of style, which happens to involve moving the lesser rather than the greater number. --2001:BB6:A84:6558:14E7:3A9A:D405:3B7 (talk) 22:24, 19 July 2019 (UTC)Reply

On the 'few replacing "Saint" by "St"', I don't see what the problem with the following are:

The replacing of "Saint" by "St" in Saint Pius X College came with a source from its own website.
The Church of Saints Peter and Paul, Athlone came with a source from The Irish Times ("The imposing Church of St Peter and St Paul was full to its 2,000 capacity for the funeral.").
The website of the entry currently at Saint Francis Xavier Church, Dublin refers to it as the "Church of St Francis Xavier" (though the proposed move went to "St Francis Xavier Church, Dublin", and should probably therefore be "Church of St Francis Xavier, Dublin").

--2001:BB6:A84:6558:14E7:3A9A:D405:3B7 (talk) 22:25, 19 July 2019 (UTC)Reply

Support per nom. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:52, 24 July 2019 (UTC)Reply

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