Talk:South–North Water Transfer Project

Latest comment: 1 year ago by Tacocat 1206 in topic km^3 vs m^3

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This part doesn't make any sense - "it both transfers too little water or transfers too little water". Twfowler 16:32, 17 July 2007 (UTC)Reply

Can we have some maps to indicate the routes? Fig (talk) 11:03, 19 May 2009 (UTC) Why still no maps? At least the grand Canal map could be copied here, but there must be project maps or newspaper maps! Anthonypeterscott (talk) 19:26, 10 February 2012 (UTC)Reply

"On the other hand, positive results have been seen in Beijing, host city of the 2008 Olympics." I don't understand this sentence. The project is not complete and what do the 2008 Olympics have to do with a water project? I see reason to delete it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sanorton (talkcontribs) 22:13, 20 October 2009 (UTC)Reply

Project controversy edit

"Also, the Tibetan Government in Exile has protested repeatedly against the project."

Tibetan Government in Exile's comment has not been quoted in this section. I can see little relevance of this comment in this section, and I couldn't not find any credible non bias sources to regarding this. The only reason why Tibetan Government in Exile would have any issue with this is if the PRC would have projects in Tibet, and it doesn't. I think we should delete this, before some high school kid quote this in his/her essay. Gw2005 (talk)

charts edit

this article definitely needs maps to show where the routes will go and what will be changed, i believe this is necessary for the understanding of the project — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.29.230.163 (talk) 01:13, 16 November 2011 (UTC)Reply

The project official website has good maps (in English, too!): http://www.nsbd.gov.cn/zx/english/erp.htm (Eastern), http://www.nsbd.gov.cn/zx/english/mrp.htm (Middle), http://www.nsbd.gov.cn/zx/english/wrp.htm (Western). These can be used as a source for any wiki graphics artist... -- Vmenkov (talk) 18:18, 28 October 2013 (UTC)Reply
The route then could be drawn e.g. into this diagram: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:China_average_annual_precipitation_%28en%29.png --Schwobator (talk) 20:05, 1 November 2014 (UTC)Reply

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Better alternate project to solve water needs of north China edit

Yangtze River is discharging more than 900 billion cubic meters (bcm) on average annually in to the sea near the northern tip of Hangzhou Bay.The entire Hangzhou bay area is shallow sea with less than 15 meters sea depth. The bay area (nearly 10,000 sq. km) including adjoining Yangtze river estuary can be converted in to a fresh water coastal reservoir by feeding flood water from the Yangtze river. Also the minimum/continuously available (more than 100 bcm) flow of water in the mighty Yangtze river at its sea mouth can also be utilised for various water needs in addition to the water stored in the fresh water reservoir. The water that can be utilised/transferred is more 200 bcm from this fresh water reservoir to eliminate water deficiency forever in north China. The fresh water reservoir storage capacity would be two times bigger than the Three Gorges Reservoir. This is feasible by constructing sea dikes / bunds/ Causeway up to 15 meters water depth for isolating the area from the sea. These proposed dikes would be similar to the land reclamation of North Sea area called Delta Works in Netherlands or the Saemangeum Seawall in South Korea.The deep sea facing dikes extending 10 meters above the local mean sea level would protect the bay from the tidal bores and also reclaim substantial land from the water flooding. The deep sea facing dikes can also be used as sea ports for large ships and top surface as coastal road & rail rout for connecting most of the bay islands. The isolated bay area can also be interconnected to sea via locks for using the bay area for shipping, ship breaking, ship building, etc. purposes. The stored fresh water in the bay area can be used for municipal water needs and agriculture water needs by pumping from the sea level fresh water reservoir.

The electricity required for pumping the water to uplands from the this sea level reservoir can be met from the solar power plants (≃50 GW) which is cheaper renewable energy with no appreciable pollution effects on nature. Energy security is not a distant dream with solar power technology but water security is still a distant dream for many parts of the the world.

This project is cheaper than ongoing 'South–North Water Transfer Project' by at least 100% after considering its solar power plants cost. Instead, China should plan to use the water resources available in its uplands to transfer water to uplands and mid lands of its Tarim River basins for reaping full benefit from its water resources by greening the vast desert area. 49.207.221.221 (talk) 14:13, 15 August 2015 (UTC)Reply

  1. Link your source(s).
  2. Number your facts, else it's just opinions.
  3. Edit out the may-too-many repeats and useless details.
  4. Sanitize the apparent auto-translate.
  5. Clarify your point. Copy-paste of prepared speech is not "discussion".
  6. Solar ? With emphasis on nature and future ? Either focus on the water alone, or give enough details to not sound like a green-dreamer.
  7. "cheaper [...] by at least 100%" So it's free ?
Fix that before this could be taken seriously. --Musaran (talk) 09:18, 6 May 2016 (UTC)Reply

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km^3 vs m^3 edit

Inconsistent usage, no clear reason why. Tacocat 1206 (talk) 00:37, 21 May 2022 (UTC)Reply