Talk:Sonoma County Historic Landmarks and Districts

Merger proposal

I propose to merge Sonoma County landmarks (created January 1, 2019 by User:MikeVdP) into Sonoma County Historic Landmarks and Districts (created in 2018 by User:Missvain. The later-created article was created without apparent awareness of the older article. Thanks User:Srich32977 for noting the duplication at User talk:MikeVdP. Generally mergers of duplicates should go to the older article, to preserve its edit history more saliently (though edit history of more recently created will still survive at the redirect). These are about the same topic. (Although note I have recently tried to establish at the target article that its scope should be refined to cover just the Sonoma County Landmarks still in unincorporated areas of the county, and to exclude the designations transferred to relatively new township of Windsor, which are to be covered in the Windsor historic sites list-article instead.) Doncram (talk) 02:21, 26 January 2021 (UTC) (re-sign after fixing Missvain username for ping --Doncram (talk) 02:32, 26 January 2021 (UTC))

Please see the suggestion I posted on Mike's user talk page. – S. Rich (talk) 02:25, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

Okay, i see you have added new suggestion since I was just viewing there, and I will reply substantially...actually probably by opening an AFD about at least one list-article. But MikeVdP and Srich32977 do agree there that the 2 list-articles considered for merger here are duplicative, and that one needs to be deleted. And I think it should be the newer one. Thanks. --Doncram (talk) 02:32, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

• Merge All that work for nothing! Haha, just kidding. I wouldn't suggest deleting necessarily the newest one (mine), but look at what has the most up to date, current information and merge appropriately, if needed. I'm not sure what one that is, at this point, however. Note: if you merge - we don't need to nominate it for deletion, as long as we have consensus here. As an admin, I'm happy to support whatever happens and merge/redirect/delete as needed to ensure clean up and quality. Thanks for all you're doing and sorry I made an article so long ago when I had no clue the other one existed - ha! Missvain (talk) 02:41, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

No, User:Missvain, yours is the older one, which I want kept. I appreciate your creating the list-article of Sonoma County-declared landmarks in 2018, before the duplicate was created by someone else a year later. And the list-article which I referred to as needing to be deleted is a different, third list-article, Sonoma County Historical Society list of landmarks, which is somewhat a different animal. Because Sonoma County government-declared landmarks are documented well enough to meet Wikipedia standards, but additional landmarks declared by a private historical society, listed supposedly in unpublished private documents which I have not seen, are not. Thank you for your contributions! --Doncram (talk) 16:31, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

• Support Merge The merge is needed. Should links be established between the entries on the list to the details on the Sonoma County official page? And, more links to the NHL, National Register and California Historical Landmark documents? That can be done at any time.MikeVdP (talk) 05:16, 28 January 2021 (UTC)

@Missvain and MikeVdP: if either of you happen to in the mood for a merge, there seems to be consensus here ... Klbrain (talk) 15:50, 15 August 2021 (UTC)

OK, redirected, as I couldn't see anything (referenced) substantive to merge. Klbrain (talk) 22:18, 23 April 2022 (UTC)

incomplete

This article is incomplete -- ends at 177. The other list goes to 192. We need to move 178 to 192 to this list.MikeVdP (talk) 18:50, 7 February 2021 (UTC) The edit of 26 Jan 2020 at 2:05 seems to have eliminated the bottom entries.MikeVdP (talk) 19:19, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

User:MikeVdP, that's what a merge would do. The merger proposal in section above has not been concluded. If/when it is concluded, the closer and/or recruited helpers would implement the merge. Of course the items 178-192 would get appended to the older and shorter list that would be the Merger target per the proposal. I am not right now sure how long it takes for a Merger proposal to be closed. If you are impatient that the Merger proposal should be closed, you probably could post a brief request at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard. --Doncram (talk) 07:40, 20 February 2021 (UTC)

improvements

1. I proposed that the cities be set so only the city shows on the table, but the link goes to the proper city article 2. I have added a reference for #151 - Bloomfield Cemetery - that links to the official County listing (current link). Shall we provide the links for each of them?MikeVdP (talk) 03:04, 10 February 2021 (UTC)