Talk:Shangguan Yunzhu

Latest comment: 18 days ago by 184.147.195.46 in topic Relationship with "Lan Ma"
Good articleShangguan Yunzhu has been listed as one of the Media and drama good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.
Article milestones
DateProcessResult
February 25, 2014Good article nomineeListed
Did You Know
A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on September 17, 2013.
The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that actress Shangguan Yunzhu (pictured) was said to have had an affair with Mao Zedong, for which she was persecuted during the Cultural Revolution, leading to her suicide?
On this day...Facts from this article were featured on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "On this day..." column on November 23, 2018, and November 23, 2023.

GA Review edit

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Reviewer: ChrisGualtieri (talk · contribs) 14:19, 6 January 2014 (UTC) I'll take this. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 14:19, 6 January 2014 (UTC) Good Article ChecklistReply

  • Well-written -the prose is clear and concise, respects copyright laws, and the spelling and grammar are correct; and it complies with the manual of style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation.
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  • Broad in its coverage: it addresses the main aspects of the topic; and it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style).
  • Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without bias, giving due weight to each.
  • Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute.
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  • Disambig links: No Issues
  • Reference check: No issues

Comments: This article has several issues. The first being that it does not meet the WP:LEAD criteria as it does not summarize the content of the article. It does not even give her birth name or life's details in summary. This needs to be fixed. The images are also much larger than they should be, please reduce their size and add the "clear" templates if needed to prevent page distortion. The images used are all out of copyright, but that does not change the fact that five images are used and only 3 of them are necessary to show the subject. This is up to you, but I think some work on the image size would result in a better flow of this article, the images are distracting at this point. Please add alt-text to the images for WP:ACCESS, this is more of an FA criteria, though. I wonder if this article is really broad and focused because three biographies of her life have been published, but the article is barely 2 pages of text. There is very little about the roles in the films she played and I think this could definitely be expanded. As a result, I wonder if it meets the focused aspect of the GA criteria. The text is itself is also lacking in some context as for the Three-anti Five-anti Campaigns and a few other matters that the reader will not be familiar with. I'll place this on hold for fixes. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 14:49, 15 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

Thanks for your review. I've expanded the lead to better summarize the article, and reduced the default image size by adding the "upright" parameter, which I didn't know existed. I've also removed an image and added alt-text to the remaining ones. I've been trying to find more information about her roles in the films she starred in, but unfortunately most English sources don't discuss them in enough detail, while all her three biographies were published in China and not accessible to me (in Canada). -Zanhe (talk) 15:42, 26 January 2014 (UTC)Reply
I'll pass this, because even though the details are lacking, a GA is not comprehensive and it does actually go out and extend the further reading aspect. This won't make FA, but I think it is one of the better biography articles and would be worthy of GA status because of its balanced and neutral approach. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 15:49, 25 February 2014 (UTC)Reply

Relationship with "Lan Ma" edit

One line says "Shangguan subsequently had a brief relationship with the actor Lan Ma (蓝马)." This then redirects to an actor called Ma Lan, whose name is 马兰 in Chinese (different order and not the same characters), and cannot be the right person because she was born only 6 years before Shangguan died. I have removed the pothole since there isn't an article in English on the right actor called Lan Ma, only a stub in Chinese on him. 184.147.195.46 (talk) 12:46, 7 May 2024 (UTC)Reply