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May 12, 2009Good article nomineeListed
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Pronunciation? edit

Latest comment: 16 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

The pronunciation description for Senedd is excellent ("SEN-eth"), however it would be very helpful if other words in the article, particular those that are headings, had the same treatment. These words include: Neuadd, Siambr, Cwrt. Tinkstar1985 06:17, 24 July 2007 (UTC)Reply

Hi. I speak welsh and I think that statement is wrong. It'd pronounced sen-edd, but Welsh is a Gaelic language which complicates things. I suppose it could be pronounced ''SEN-EVV'' with the 'v' 's supposed to be an d sound, pronounced as a sort of hum.

Basically, it's complicated :D cf38talk 22:15, 19 December 2007 (UTC) Welsh is a language on the Brythonic branch of the Celtic language. The "dd" is like the "th" in "then", simply put, but I think some IPA is in order. Senedd (ˈsɛnɛð), Neuadd (ˈnəiað), Siambr (ˈʃambr), Cwrt (ˈkʊrt), Oriel (ɔrjɛl). AledJames (talk) 19:40, 6 February 2008 (UTC)Reply

St David's Day edit

Latest comment: 16 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

The article says that the Senedd was opened on St David's Day 2006. This is incorrect, because St David's Day in 2006 was either the second day of March (if you're Church in Wales) or the last day of February (if you're Roman Catholic). It cannot have fallen on the first day of March because that day was Ash Wednesday. I think this was edited away before, but it seems to have come back. Marnanel 10:57, 15 August 2007 (UTC)Reply

Hasuko Hasegawa Atelier??? edit

Latest comment: 14 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

In the reference www.wao.gov.uk it gives the name Hasuko Hasegawa Atelier (no reference on Google apart from the reference itself) as one of the architects, however I feel the real name of the architect is actually Itsuko Hasegawa Atelier. Seth Whales (talk) 22:44, 8 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

GA Review edit

Latest comment: 14 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion
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  1. Is it reasonably well written?
    A. Prose quality:  
    Way too many lists! Needs to be cut back on the lists.
    B. MoS compliance:  
  2. Is it factually accurate and verifiable?
    A. References to sources:  
    B. Citation of reliable sources where necessary:  
    One reference needed; marked with {{fact}}
    C. No original research:  
  3. Is it broad in its coverage?
    A. Major aspects:  
    B. Focused:  
    Very on-topic.
  4. Is it neutral?
    Fair representation without bias:  
    Follows NPOV
  5. Is it stable?
    No edit wars, etc:  
  6. Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?
    A. Images are copyright tagged, and non-free images have fair use rationales:  
    B. Images are provided where possible and appropriate, with suitable captions:  
    Many great images/
  7. Overall:
    Pass or Fail:  
    Good article. I like those table with the colors. Really only one problem in this article: the lists. If those list are removed, I think this article has potential for FA. The New Mikemoral ♪♫ 23:36, 12 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

Bute Square edit

Latest comment: 14 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Bute Square (now known as Callaghan Square) was named after the 2nd and/or 3rd Marquess of Bute...see File:2nd Marquis of Bute.jpg in Callaghan Square (named after James Callaghan. Seth Whales (talk) 08:29, 23 July 2009 (UTC)Reply

return to Peer Review? edit

Latest comment: 14 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Can someone let me know if it returns there; I'm interested to provide feedback if that happens. Tony (talk) 12:58, 30 July 2009 (UTC)Reply

The Senedd edit

Latest comment: 12 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

The Senedd in also knowen as The National Assembly building , which people also go there to discuss things that are inportant to people . You Can Go There For Free To See What it is Like The Building cost to build 69.9Million that queen elizabeth II Built For Cardiff , It Is A huge Building and have lovely decor . — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.9.156.62 (talk) 06:36, 27 April 2012 (UTC)Reply

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Latest comment: 6 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

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Latest comment: 5 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

I've never seen that logo in the infobox anywhere else. I've just had a look around online and still can't find any other examples of it being used anywhere by anyone. I can't be 100% sure enough to take it down myself, but I'll gladly propose getting rid of it. The Senedd is just a building. I believe the Welsh Assembly own, manage and occupy the building. I know it's nice, but it doesn't seem logical for the Assembly to have created a separate logo and identity for the bricks and mortar keeping the roof over their heads. The building isn't an entity. --Cymrodor (talk) 23:35, 13 December 2018 (UTC)Reply

Name edit

Latest comment: 5 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

My understanding is it has just one name and is referred to by that name. The opening sentence says it's sometimes referred to as 'the National Assembly building'. The only example given as a reference appears to be an article written on the day some men in suits presumably put a spade into the ground, i.e. before construction started and years before the building was completed and occupied, so it presumably didn't have a name at the time. That surely can't be considered proof of it currently having an alternative name.--Cymrodor (talk) 23:44, 13 December 2018 (UTC)Reply

If you look at the 'Awards' section you'll see it's often referred to as the 'National Assembly for Wales' (building). To be honest, I would have called it the same thing (or maybe the Assembly Building) until the Eisteddfod took place in the Bay this year and it was prominently referred to everywhere as the Senedd. I suppose there's a Welsh/English language thing going on here, people who are less comfortable with the Welsh language may not use 'Senedd' so much. Sionk (talk) 22:50, 17 December 2018 (UTC)Reply

Requested move 5 December 2019 edit

Latest comment: 4 years ago4 comments3 people in discussion
The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Moved. (non-admin closure) Cwmhiraeth (talk) 13:34, 20 December 2019 (UTC)Reply


Senedd → Senedd building – With the imminent renaming of the National Assembly of Wales to "the Senedd"/"Senedd Cymru", there is a strong possibility that the page for the legislature will end up being moved too; I notice that the Assembly is already called by its Welsh name, rather than its English name, in English language sources (recent: [1], [2], [3]). "Senedd building", hence, is a natural disambiguation to contrast with Senedd Cymru, and doing this move several months before the name change allows us to change the links ahead of time. Sceptre (talk) 16:32, 5 December 2019 (UTC)—Relisted. – Ammarpad (talk) 07:00, 14 December 2019 (UTC)Reply

This seems a very sensible idea - as noted, even if the Assembly isn't officially renamed, the Welsh name is pretty commonly used in English and it feels a bit odd to have it go to the building rather than the institution. Andrew Gray (talk) 20:46, 14 December 2019 (UTC)Reply
Comment: I've created a draft disambiguation page, which should take this article title if this article is moved. Sceptre (talk) 00:33, 15 December 2019 (UTC)Reply
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Article name edit

Latest comment: 3 years ago5 comments4 people in discussion

The usual way to disambiguate is to put the disambiguator in brackets. The building is called the Senedd, not "Senedd building", and therefore I propose it be moved to Senedd (building). Any objections? Ghmyrtle (talk) 12:34, 8 May 2020 (UTC)Reply

Sounds sensible and consistent with other articles. Sionk (talk) 16:31, 8 May 2020 (UTC)Reply
I approve, however, I feel we should wait. We need to see the outcome of the Requested move for National Assembly on 6 May 2020.SethWhales talk 09:27, 10 May 2020 (UTC)Reply
Oppose: The "usual way to disambiguate" according to the WP:D policy is natural disambiguation. (It's the primary, preferred form, followed by comma-delimited dab, secondarily, then parenthetical dab, tertiarily). Given the fact that the official Senedd page as well as articles by the BBC, ITV, et al always open by calling this the "Senedd building", it is one of its common names. We don't need to decide if it is the common name vs. "Senedd" given that would be ambiguous with the body. The Llew Mawr (talk) 08:33, 11 May 2020 (UTC)Reply
A fair point, I think. This, for example, refers to the "Senedd building". It may change - we should wait and see. Ghmyrtle (talk) 08:59, 11 May 2020 (UTC)Reply

Architecture edit

Latest comment: 4 months ago2 comments2 people in discussion

It's very bland for a RSH+P building, why no colour? I guess its neutral? Not much energy but I guess colour was a planning thing? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5.80.211.164 (talk) 21:20, 7 May 2021 (UTC)Reply

I am unsure but legislative buildings tend to be austere. To me, it resembles a dolmen like you'd find throughout the British Isles during the stone age. I will search for evidence for my hypothesis and its inclusion in the article. — Special:Contributions/TheSands-12 10:27, 16 December 2023 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheSands-12 (talk • contribs) Reply

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