Talk:Saul Soliz

Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Theleekycauldron (talk) 23:35, 22 September 2021 (UTC)

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• ... that Saul Soliz was known as "the godfather of Texas MMA"? Source: "Soliz, whom many have dubbed 'The Godfather of Texas MMA,' was in the hospital for 'several weeks' because of the coronavirus, she said." ([1])

• Reviewed: Kuopio (Does this count? Happy to do a different QPQ if needed.)

Moved to mainspace by Armadillopteryx (talk). Self-nominated at 01:47, 14 September 2021 (UTC).

• Article is new enough and was moved into the main space on 13/9. Article is long enough with more than 3000 characters. No copyvios, the info box image is that of a deceased subject - other images are fine. The hook fact checks out the the ESPN source provided. I like the short and simple hook too. The article is stable, the sources are reliable and it is well written. Good to go.Rain the 1 15:44, 14 September 2021 (UTC)

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Promo

@Cassiopeia: Regarding this, I'm not sure what you mean. Do you think an external link to video of a deceased subject talking about their career is promo? I don't really care if the link is there or not, but I do think calling it promo is a stretch. Armadillopteryx 02:22, 15 September 2021 (UTC)

Armadillopteryx External links are links, usually, link to their profile of the associate site of the subject and we keep it to about 2 external links - see WP:ELMIN. When the subject talk about themselves, the tendency would be part disclosure of their life/career and also in certain part is about promotion however slightly. We could place short important "quote" in the body text with citation/sources (no utube/social sites and etc) , but that is to be used sparingly. Wikipedia is an enclyopedia and not a promotion/social sites/news site/autobigroaphy. We merely record what is truely relevant to the notability of the subject and and important of the subject with the support of independent, reliable sources. Cassiopeia talk 02:38, 15 September 2021 (UTC)

I'm familiar with our basic policies like WP:NOTPROMO and WP:RS I have written a bunch of GA-level biographies of both living and dead subjects. I don't think an EL section with two links (including the deleted one) is in violation of ELMIN, and while I agree a video of a live subject talking about themself would be promotional, I don't see how that could be the case for a deceased one. No biggie either way, though—I thought the link added context, but it doesn't need to be there. Thank you for clarifying, and thanks for your help with the article! Armadillopteryx 02:59, 15 September 2021 (UTC)

Armadillopteryx it was not in violation of ELMIN and thank you for your understanding. Stay safe. Cassiopeia talk 03:23, 15 September 2021 (UTC)

@Cassiopeia: Thanks, you too! Armadillopteryx 03:32, 15 September 2021 (UTC)