Talk:Saner Wonggoun
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pronunciation
editI once tried fixing the ambiguous transcription, but was reverted, so I've deleted it as unconfirmed. — kwami (talk) 11:49, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
- When you describe the pronunciation as "ambiguous", what do you mean? As for unconfirmed, though the link doesn't work any more, it was certainly a reliable source. — pd_THOR | =/\= | 17:29, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
- I couldn't tell what the vowels were supposed to be. In my earlier edit I assumed that [e] was supposed to be the vowel of sane and [u] the vowel of moon, but that was reverted as "unsupported": does that mean they're supposed to be the vowels of bed and foot? Currently W would seem to be Won-ggoun rather than Wong-goun, which is a bit odd. It's also unclear where the stress lies in either name. — kwami (talk) 17:39, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
- Okay, okay. I'll concede that I'm not very familiar with the pronunciation templates and symbols. I thought your original change at the beginning of the year was changing the cited pronunciation.
Here's what I was trying to show the pronunciation as (per the source): SANE-er Won-goon That's "SANE" as in "insane"; another way would be "insaner" minus the "in". The "Won" is like the soup "won"-ton, and goon is pronounced like the thug. Does this make sense? — pd_THOR | =/\= | 18:15, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
- Okay, so it's not pronounced like the Chinese name "Wong" plus "goon"? (That was a mistake on my part.) Also, which has the stress, the "won" or the "goon"? Or on both, as in is in some Chinese names, such as "Taipei"? — kwami (talk) 19:19, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
- Damn, I don't know about the emphasis. I think the original source used CAPITALS to indicate stressors, but I don't remember where they were placed anymore. Does the butchered pron symbols I originally used indicate at all? — pd_THOR | =/\= | 19:25, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
- No, it didn't. I'll put it back in, though. Can you confirm at least that the ng is pronounced like an n rather than like an ng? (That is, as in con game rather than as in mongoose, or as in Vancouver, another name where we don't get the expected ng pronounciation) — kwami (talk) 19:34, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
- Damn, I don't know about the emphasis. I think the original source used CAPITALS to indicate stressors, but I don't remember where they were placed anymore. Does the butchered pron symbols I originally used indicate at all? — pd_THOR | =/\= | 19:25, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
- Okay, so it's not pronounced like the Chinese name "Wong" plus "goon"? (That was a mistake on my part.) Also, which has the stress, the "won" or the "goon"? Or on both, as in is in some Chinese names, such as "Taipei"? — kwami (talk) 19:19, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
- Okay, okay. I'll concede that I'm not very familiar with the pronunciation templates and symbols. I thought your original change at the beginning of the year was changing the cited pronunciation.
- I couldn't tell what the vowels were supposed to be. In my earlier edit I assumed that [e] was supposed to be the vowel of sane and [u] the vowel of moon, but that was reverted as "unsupported": does that mean they're supposed to be the vowels of bed and foot? Currently W would seem to be Won-ggoun rather than Wong-goun, which is a bit odd. It's also unclear where the stress lies in either name. — kwami (talk) 17:39, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
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